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Liberate tuteme ex Excelsior!

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 No.5862

Hi, /lit/. I don't come here often, but I'd appreciate your expertise and recommendations on a topic I've been wondering about.

So I recently read a couple of Ayn Rand's novels, and I was honestly quite impressed. I was impressed by how absolutely based the heroes of these novels were. Now I am not a total capitalist or a modernist – I'm actually more of a traditionalist in my worldview – but I was still quite compelled by Ayn Rand's ability to write such defiantly masculine heroes. It is sometimes said that no one writes a manly man better than Rand. Like I was saying, I don't totally agree with Rand's philosophy or economics; I just really appreciate something about the confident, virile spirit of the men she creates in her stories. That's something you don't often see anymore in respected literature. Literary snobs today usually look down on the ideal of the masculine hero as an impossible cliche that belongs only in childish comic books. I disagree.

I guess what I want to ask is: Do you know of any other novels that heroisize manly as fuck dudes who are determined to get their way and achieve their vision despite all the haters and naggers who try to bring em down? And preferably novels which promote a more traditionalist view of man (if you can manage to think of any)? I appreciate any recommendations you might offer. Just hit me with whatever you think might be interesting. I think you know what I'm getting at.

Oh, and inb4 the classics. I already realize that epics like The Iliad and The Odyssey and The Aeneid exist. The classics are obviously a given in this field. But go ahead and mention some classics if you think you really ought to. Just know that I'm really looking for modern novels in particular that are able to successfully express masculine themes in ways similar to how Rand does (but perhaps with a little less dryness).

Thanks!

 No.5863

>>5862

I've never read any Rand, but when I think "defiantly masculine novels" the first one that comes to mind is One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey. Also, detective stories like The Maltese Falcon might be another place to look.


 No.5864

>>5862

The stories themselves aren't modern narratively, but maybe try Conan the Barbarian short stories by Howard.


 No.5870

>>5863

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is a great suggestion. Seconded this.


 No.5871

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>>5862

There's a quote by Rand which I wish I could find because it is, to me, why Objectivism despite its failings is relevant in literature. It goes something to the effect of: "My philosophy has never been strictly anti-communism or anti-collectivism, but of man as a heroic creature capable of shaping his own destiny."

Anyway, I'd go with McCarthy. Definitely a masculine presence in literature. If you're trying to evade the modernist conception of characters as flawed persons, his later works (No Country, The Road, The Border Trilogy to a lesser extent) especially.


 No.5872

>>5871

I think the quote you have in mind is:

"My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute." – Ayn Rand

I don't entirely agree with it, but it is quite ballsy. I appreciate the confident spirit of Rand.


 No.5886

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>>5870

I really think Kesey's work is one of the best books on this subject.


 No.6226

taras bul'ba.

in a way i'd say that jean valjean fits the bill too.


 No.6942

>>5863

this.

philip marlowe is a great example of that.


 No.7004

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Ivanhoe and other similar characters.


 No.7007

DESDICHADO!

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DESDICHADO!

DESDICHADO!

>>7004


 No.7064

Un Uomo (A Man), by Orianna Fallaci. A book that defines manhood for me, I strongly recommend it.

(How curious that once again it's a woman who hits the nail so precisely)

Also, give a look to Nietzsche's Zarathustra. Especially the chapter about women


 No.7068

>>7064

is it about that greek politician she helped to escape?




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