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 No.7748

What does /lit/ think about this site? I used to love it, then I hated it for its community, now I respect it for how it handled the GamerGate-affair, namely by describing all the different narratives and then leaving it at that.

I think it's to fiction what fedoratheism is to philosophy: A decent way to get you started and thinking, but if you don't outgrow it, you're an idiot. It is a decent source for quick information and can help you get critical of different cliches and ways of doing them right, for once.

I can say that my ideas got a whole lot better once I stopped thinking in terms of tropes, though. While I was actively browsing TVTropes, I though that variety, savviness and originality were the mark of good writing. What I lost track of was the bigger picture of a work. Having a good overarching theme, with characters that symbolize certain aspects of it, beats having ninjas fight against viking orcs, even if the ninjas have a warrior princess that also likes pink dresses (le subverted trope lol).

 No.7749

i liked that site for about a week or two, then it lost its novelty.

i didn't stop by long enough to get a feel of the community.


 No.7751

>>7749

I was there a lot longer. Never hung around on the forums, but they leave an impression even on the articles, and especially on the (now disbanded) troper tales.


 No.7752

Three things.

First, it's a resource for writing in that it acts as a pointer for questions of: how did someone else do this scene, character, technique, etc.

Second, I've found it iffy on example history. By nature the site user base tends toward the younger crew. They're good at citing recent examples (and that's useful); and, a little surprisingly, they do good with ancient citations. They tend to miss things that were done in teleplays, things in the thirties, forties, and fifties, etc. They do catch things done in the sixties and later, I suspect due to syndication rebroadcasts.

Third, the scope of the site's example citations are both a boon and a curse. In a more professional or higher educational setting the number of troupes listed would be about a quarter of what is on the site. The examples listed for study would be more limited, more focused, and of much higher relevance.

As far as the site's participation in, or acknowledgement of the Internet cultural wars it just shows them running out of useful ideas to pursue.

I'm with:

>>7749

as I visited fairly early on in the site's history and the novelty wore off. Now it's just a good resource for pointing to primary source materials for study.


 No.7754

What do you guys think of Limyaael?

http://curiosityquills.com/limyaael/


 No.7982

>>7748

>TVTropes

I hope you are either joking or refer to 5 years ago. The place sports more cheap paint than trollop of 4chan.

It was overrun by wikipedos and washed for Google sugar daddy long ago. By now they even stopped kissing FastEddie's behind and kicked him out.

Try one of the clones not covered in poisonous saccharine drool


 No.7984

>>7982

Wait, they kicked FastEddie out? I thought the damn site belonged to him?!


 No.8000

>>7748

More or less said what I was going to say. Not that variety, savviness, and originality are bad things but they're not primary concerns. Even if your story has to run off a cliche or two, it's acceptable if it makes for a better story and you can do it in an interesting way. That's a common problem with TVTropes and people who use it as a resource, but I think it's only fair to mention that it does have a few articles concerning elements of bad writing and how to avoid it.


 No.8001

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>>8000

Damn, I was not expecting that GET.

Granted this is a board with less than a post per hour, but it's something.


 No.8010

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>>8000 (checked)

Originality and the other things are very important, but towards the development of whatever the story is about. Clichés and pointless scenes are to be expected; what matters is whether the essential parts are good.


 No.8015

>>7984

In 2014. Okay, not completely "out", but he was not Da Boss from 2014.

And the site's shark-jumping was called back in 2012 on giantitp forums, give or take a year elsewhere.


 No.8121

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Tvtropes jumped the shark so hard they refuse to call lolis lolis, and pruned out as many Japanese words as possible even if all anime fans use them.




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