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 No.7787

So I have just read The Stranger for the Second time.

When I first read it I found it groundbreaking. It has been approximately three years since I read it.

I have just read it for the second time and found it revolting.

For example the novel is inherently colonial, yet this issue is never addressed, so as to give an air of superiority to the un-historically minded reader.

When I read it the first time the colonialism was not apparent to me and added to the absurdism. I have noticed often when you lack and understanding of geopolitical situations and you dont understand the concept of 'race' yourself , it can be used to give 'absurdism' to a text.

For example 'The Kite Runner' is a great example of this. Few people have the understanding of the geopoltical considerations of the area, so the various races and tensions between them can give absurdism and intrigue. When you learn about Pashtuns and Hazaras it is interesting, because in real life you never hear people talk so openly about races.

When you understand the historical geopolitics in the book it becomes a lot less interesting in my opinion. This is the same as the Kite Runner

The French empire did nothing wrong. Meursault did nothing wrong. He shouldnt have put his mom in a home.

 No.7789

>>7787

The point of the book was that Mersault was essentially amoral/an egoist. The trial wasn't about the man he killed about why he didn't give a flying fuck about his mother.


 No.7793

>>7787

>For example the novel is inherently colonial

a novel expressing it's time?

how distasteful!

you remind me of that one time anita complained about true grit not having the character of mattie decrying the injustice of capital punishment.

ridiculous!

and arabs are indeed culturally inferior.

there is a reason they haven't produced a great scientist in centuries.

wanna know how their enlightenment ended?

imprisoned, lashed, executed, and set on fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansur_Al-Hallaj

and i say this because despite his religious background some of the concepts of this man seem to be taken straight from voltaire.


 No.7796

>>7793

*its time


 No.7797

>>7793

dude read it again

I dont disagree with you

For its time though , Meursault shouldnt have given two flying fucks about what he did .

The novel could have been interesting if it was semi supportive of colonialism


 No.7801

>>7797

> Meursault shouldnt have given two flying fucks about what he did .

but that's the point. that's what he did.

and it's quite established that he did not give a fuck not out of some sense of superiority but because that's how he is…kind of a sociopath.


 No.7802

>>7801

Given the time period no french person would have cared about what happened really so it is not absurd for Mersault not to care about what happened to the Arab.

I disagree with the point of the novel being that Mersault was amoral. The point of the novel was absurdism. The colonialism was connected to absurdism. It seemed to be that Mersault lacked an understanding of colonialism that manifested itself into thinking the whole world was absurd.

With an understanding of colonialism the whole book is essentially not absurd, besides the fact that he didnt care when his mom died,

However this isnt even that absurd. If a parent pisses off their child then the child doesnt care when the parent passes away,


 No.7813

>>7802

that's not just his mom. just look at the way he relates to and thinks about Marie…

is that colonialism?


 No.8065

>>7787

>When I first read it I found it groundbreaking.

It was like almost any other philosophical book. What was distinctive about it?


 No.8068

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I can't see that cover without thinking of this image.


 No.8079

>>8065

maybe it was the first of that kind for OP.


 No.8085

>>8068

accurate


 No.8086

>>8068

that's what you see when you watch the cover of the stranger with the "they live" glasses.




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