/lit/ - Literature

>>7887

Finnegan's Wake. Complete Gibberish. Couldn't get more than a few pages.

Great Expectations, however, holds the cake, though. Well-written but boring as shit. Nothing remarkable happens throughout the majority of I read 150 pages, I believe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Girls_Don%27t_Wear_Trousers

last book i've read.

utter crap.

>>7887

Rim, by Alexander Besher (I think that was his name). This was one of the few books that was so much crap I've put it aside, and I've suffered through the entirety of Atlas Shrugged.

The protagonist is a bland, trite piece of shit that's admired by everyone for no reason, all of the women in the story only exist to tell him how big his cock is and I barely even remember his son. That's as much as I can recall about the characters; the only others I remember are a robot that got its head blown off and a pair of "dyke bitches" [sic] that had sex, and both had no impact on the story.

As for the setting, I have yet to find out why the hell Neo Tokyo is called as such. It's not because it phases out of existence, because it was called Neo Tokyo prior to that. Furthermore, the mix between oriental spiritualism and cyberpunk simply does not work. How do you even get the idea to mix these two? Probably by being a stupid shit who wants to put everything he thinks is cool into a single story. It's what I did when I was sixteen.

Then there's the "humor" of the book. The protagonist says "hello" to the mirror and the mirror answers "olleh". That's the joke. I rest my case.

The Turner Diaries. It includes some interesting passages, but all in all, the book is shit. The "good guys" are overly powerful, and the author has a seriously messed up moral compass. I'm not just talking about him being a white supremacist, but about him seeing it as awwright to execute people you think may be innocent to make a point.

>>7958

to me it's not that the reason the book sucks.

matter of fact i thought it started pretty good.

what really i don't like about the book, beside the fact that it's pretty boring an badly written, is the fact that it reviles "the system" for things nazis did, with no doubt about it, yet it holds them as the pinnacle of political thought.

that's what i hate about SJWs too, the thought they seem to have that some things are OK when YOU are doing them. because YOU are on the right side of history, and the year is very much current.

>>7978

You sat through that, i.e., read all of it? I feel sorry for you. I could barely get through a couple of paragraphs, and this was with a text with a shit ton of footnotes explicating the bloody thing.

>>7978

that's because it trascends the good/bad dichotomy.

I assume all of you have good enough taste to realize "The Alchemist" is garbage, but can you explain why so many plebs think it's great?

Are people that starved for profundity?

>>8009

the alchemist is made to attract a very specific but large slice of market.

it's basically a self-help book disguised as a novel, full of deep sounding truism and wishful thinking. prime bait for certain kinds of people.

>>7887

>even a book about a beetle eating through a tree would be less boring than this piece of shit

You might like Kafka, then.

Why all the hate for Finnegans Wake ITT? It's unconventional (maybe even impossible) but I don't see how anyone could deny that it's a masterpiece.

>>7890

>finnegans wake

I had to write an analysis of that piece of crap.

Read the whole book, wrote an analysis with over 90 citations, and the bitch gave me a 60% mark.

I should get 200% for just holding it in my hand.

>>8063

Elaborate, anon, what was your teacher like?

>>8064

Short pink/red hair.

>>8090

lol

David Copperfield

I dropped it at Chapter I. I Am Born, in which the narrator describes the day of his birth as though he remembers it.

http://www.bartleby.com/307/1.html

>>8156

>as I have been informed and believe

As a pleb, I always thought it taboo to dislike works regarded as literary classics. I'm not sure where I got the idea from, as if these works are above the opinions of others or something, but it was opinions that got them there in the first place.

>>8179

if you can motivate your displasure, your opinions do count.

and if you have some to share, i'd be glad to hear them.

>>8179

>As a pleb, I always thought it taboo to dislike works regarded as literary classics.

One of my law professors once said that if we can't understand a passage in a textbook, no matter how often we read it, then chances are the textbook is at fault, not us. It's the most uplifting things he's ever said, and the guy was always, constantly smiling. I think this is applicable to literature, too; if you simply can't like a work, then that might be because it's got nothing to offer you, or - more rarely, but it happens - it simply isn't good.

I agree with Anna Karenina, most tedious book I've ever read, although admittedly I was reading the Maudes' translation.

Can't understand all the Finnegans Wake and Dickens hate ITT, both are masterful.

>>7887

Yikes how old are you?

>>8205

I love art that I don't understand. It makes everything more unpredictable and chaotic, and it feels more natural, since the world itself is far beyond understanding. I don't care if it's shitty, but if I don't understand the reasoning behind a song, film, book, etc., then it attracts me much more than when I understand it perfectly well.

>>8621

More often, if something doesn't make sense it's because the author didn't care about understanding it himself.

Can someone post the screencap of Todd Howard admitting he used the quantum psychics from Watchmen?

>>8623

Not necessarily. I enjoy listening to Southeast Asian classical music because I don't understand anything about the theory of it, and therefore it doesn't make much sense to me. That isn't because it truly doesn't make sense, but it's just due to my own ignorance. Regardless, the unusual and unpredictable progressions are what I really like about it.

>>8623

>>8624

Also, when reading Shakespeare, there are often monologues that I can't follow because of how much is said using an abnormal syntax. It surely made clear sense to people back when it was written, but I can't understand it nearly as well with my modern concept of the language.

>>8624

>>8625

Then you enjoy understanding things.

>>8638

How did you infer that from what I wrote?

>>8642

The text of Shakespeare is easy to understand, compared to its meaning. Likewise, Asian classical music is as understandable as other music, if you're persistent.

What would have hinted that you don't want to understand things would have been liking Levine (who I mixed up with Howard) or taking an interest in randomness and chaos theory.

>>8645

Randomness is boring, though. I enjoy not understanding things that actually have a method behind them, but one that is obscure to me.

>>7893

One of the funniest books I've read

The real bore and generally piece of garbage is "Underworld". White baby-boomer liberalism, of which New York city specialized in for so long, is utterly dead.

>>7887

completely missed the book.

look at Anna and adultry and then look at "pornography". That is "progress".

>>7890

James Joyce: mostly a pretentious literati. Finnegans Wake was written specifically for a now bygone bourgeoisie, and as such it is a piece of garbage.

>>7890

Dickens: a boring social reformist and English dolt.

>>7959

Whitman: a now obsolete Yankee dunce and muddleheaded philosophaster.

>>7887

As I've already posted about, I'm glad the Book of Merlin was never published. It's a piece of shit.

>>8651

>White Noise

>funny

bullshit

>>8802

>41th

>>8803

yea, the forty oneth millennium, whats wrong with that?

>>8806

That isn't a correct way of saying it.

>>8806

I think he means it's the 41st millenium. No one gives a fuck, but still.

The Bone Season by Samantha Shannon

I've read the first 30 pages only, took me like 3 tries to get there, because a voice screamed in my head "PUT THIS PILE OF GARBAGE DOWN!"

The first 30 pages were literally like this:

>I am simply the best there is.

>I can beat anyone

>but I did a big mistke because of love

>now I will tell you my story

Ghosts, futuristic technology, some strange voyage of the senses, with no explanation at all. Characters speak of other characters who are not present in a way that the reader has no idea who the hell those are.

The main girl - of course it has to be a girl - has 0 backstory, she is immediatly the greatest in the city in this voyage thing, and she works for "the bad people", and she will probably join a revolution against them, á lá Insurdiverfaithfulgent

Not recommending to anyone over age of 13

>>8808

i should have put an : ^ ) to indicate sarcasm

>>8937

LOL

The whole Jamowitz/McInerney/Ellis era was like that. I blame Judy Blume.

>>8872

>The Bone Season

>not about the adventures of a resurrected skellingkton

What a shame

this series.

it's really just porn. only less honest about it than 50 shades, which i haven't read but i've seen how it was publicized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQM0avkWqGI

>>9002

Which series?

You have pleb taste, fam. Go back to Dan Brown if you can't handle Tolstoy.