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/lit/'s future Anonymous ## Board Owner 01/11/16 (Mon) 01:38:39 No.8301

(This was posted earlier in the Next board by the BV at my behest. I am posting it here as well.)

The TL;DR version of this is simple: What do we do?

Board volunteer for /lit/ here.

Good morning.

Let me start by saying the opinions of the board staff are somewhat divided on how to react to 8chan's situation. Originally, the board owner was consistently supportive of the migration to Infinity Next. She wasn't interested in hearing about any alternatives. Events of the last twenty four hours have changed that, she is now taking a neutral position which can be summed up as: "whatever works."

I, the board volunteer, was also in favor of the migration, although I approached it with a wary eye. I will also admit I'm not the patient type. I've been snarky about it, at least on occasion. With all the problems and downtime piling up over the last few months I became more interested in finding alternative solutions instead sticking it out and waiting to see.

Three things we agree on.

1. We are both tired of chasing down and compiling information shotgunned across far too many boards and blogs to stay abreast of 8chan's current status and plans for the future.

2. We are done with the time wasting process of watching our questions (in particular, one simple support request) go unanswered.

3. We are fed up with trying to maintain a duplicate presence across two broken venues.

Josh has, finally, provided sufficient feedback, and at least a rough idea how 8chan will proceed. As I'm the one pushing Endchan here on /lit/ the BO asked that I write a response for both of us.

I'll continue in the next post with commentary on Josh's Guide to Infinite Fun.

/lit/'s future Anonymous ## Board Owner 01/11/16 (Mon) 01:45:20 No.8302

>>8301

From: https://notehub.org/346di

There is a chan tradition of taking another's quotes and hacking them up for some context crushing lulz, or as a shortcut to casting aspersions. Please understand that's not what I'm doing here. I'm just keeping things brief. Obviously the stuff in brackets is my own paraphrasing.

>I was informed that [8chan's hardware] … is far less powerful as I thought it was.

>OdiliTime offered to host a test copy of Next on … what appeared to be an identical box … [which ran perfectly.]

>[The hardware architecture made available to 8chan is is completely inadequate to the task of running the software infrastructure I am building.]

>In short, Next has to be at least twice as fast as I originally thought.

As important as this discovery is, I would like to see the same experiment performed on 8chan's [Tinyboard + vichan + infinity] blob. Who wants to bet we would see most of the pre-Next problems disappear? Wouldn't that be nice?

Apparently, the ultimate underlying problem with 8chan has always been the hardware.

Please make note a simplification of the situation at hand is not a solution. I understand the dilemma 8chan faces.

1. Upgrading the servers is not a solution available to us. Walking away from the gifts 2ch has granted is beyond insane. We must work with what we got.

2. The legacy blob has additional severe issues with code maintainability and expansion. We need to move on to something better.

In the rest of the section Josh explains what his plan is to remedy all this.

I will wrap up in the next post with a few more comments and a plea to the community.

/lit/'s future Anonymous ## Board Owner 01/11/16 (Mon) 01:50:05 No.8303

>>8302

>Show's over! Off to master4end76chan.pl!

>Yea yea yea. Shills and parasites have popped up all over the place this week …

I don't accept this interpretation at all. I'm not seeing some mirage of outsiders as circling vultures trying to "take advantage" of us. What I'm seeing are fed up 8chan users pushing their own solutions.

>The lack of communication from the top is scaring people and it reminds them a lot of how 4chan was …

Exactly. And let me add, Josh is not the cause of this.

So here we are.

8chan's /lit/ is a tiny niche community whose survival or extinction will have exactly zero impact on 8chan as a whole. I'm sure the few people here consider /lit/ to be, at best, a sideline to whichever main boards, or other chans, they frequent. That's fine. Aside from our duties to you, the BO and I are both plain old users here and elsewhere too. We don't have any illusions as to our own importance, or the influence of this board. But we do care about this little corner of chan culture.

What this all means is we need your help! We need you to speak up and tell us what you want from us. Give us some direction.

Thank you.

Anonymous 01/11/16 (Mon) 15:32:20 No.8305

>>8303

> We need you to speak up and tell us what you want from us

honestly, i don't expect much.

be there, discuss /lit/ stuff, and i'll be there.

Anonymous 01/11/16 (Mon) 16:13:42 No.8306

First off, the most important thing to keep in mind is that 8ch will not be fixed and Next will not work in the near future. I suggest we do the same as /sp/: forget about this page and head to a bunker.

From a cursory look at what other boards are saying it looks like /lit/ moving to endchan:

>will create problems with /pol/, who probably won't trust the German servers

>could go either way with boards without consensus (/tg/ and /tech/)

>go well with /monster/, as they also chose endchan as their bunker

Until someone proposes a better place for /pol/ discussion, we should take what little support the tea party gathered and go to endchan.

Anonymous ## Board Owner 01/12/16 (Tue) 04:44:13 No.8308

Allrighty then, here is how things stand.

/lit/ is a secondary one off sort of board. People stop by on their way between bigger boards, or to kill some time between threads on their home board. Our board has been an enticing side dish of pokey success due to the sheer size of 8chan's user base as a whole. The problem now is if 8chan's user base shatters and scatters, we die.

There is nothing the board staff can do about it.

What can be done is to unfuckify things here as much as possible. Our board is a mess of announcements and directions to go here, there, everywhere.

First:

The Infinity Next board announcement/sticky will updated to advise people to come here.

Second:

Here will be our home, and our home it will remain. Until I have an absolute, unambiguous, and successfully demonstrated alternative from 8chan's administration and development team the board's announcements and stickies will be put back into their original format. No more speculation.

Third:

A suggestion will be added to use endchan as a temporary refuge if our home falls offline.

Time for me to wrestle with the dashboard.

This is not a fiat. This is not the end of the discussion. I need to hear what everyone has to say. Advise, suggestions, opinions, news, all of it are welcome.

Anonymous 01/21/16 (Thu) 06:24:36 No.8391

>>8301

Long time lurker.

You guys are a slow board but I love chanlit and think in later years a lot of us will see our influence in culture

Either return back to 4chan and initiate some broader threads there about the survival of chanliteracy, or choose a bunkerchan to start building deeper

Anonymous 01/25/16 (Mon) 15:42:20 No.8410

Thoughts on recent events?

Anonymous 01/25/16 (Mon) 22:00:39 No.8413

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>>8410

>Thoughts on recent events?

A summation these recent events would be nice, if you'd be so kind.

The BO and I agreed to stop trying to chase down all the links and bits of information scattered everywhere. There's some rumors flying around Endchan: alleged IRC logs, copypasted rage posts; some random Twitter posts about food, beer, drugs, and bitchin' religions et. fuckin' al.

Josh quit? The Next project will move elsewhere? Maybe, but no thanks to compiling all that shit together into a single coherent message. As per the perfect pic for a perfect occasion, I don't know what the fuck is going on.

I'll wait and see until we get an official announcement, posted in an official location, that is clear and detailed from Fredrick or Jim (or Josh?).

Anonymous 01/25/16 (Mon) 23:28:18 No.8414

According to /tech/ hw is switching to viichan and prob abandoning josh

Anonymous 01/26/16 (Tue) 12:28:08 No.8418

>>8413

The important things should be on both /b/ and 8ch twitter. Right now these are:

>Next is kill

>Hotwheels can't decide what to do without a vote

Anonymous 01/26/16 (Tue) 20:50:52 No.8421

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>>8418

I've viewed a few banter spots that seem to be more on the side of the official and objective. Also, I'm digesting a podcast from Hotwheels that appears genuine, having got a third of the way through. I'm not going to do an exhaustive compilation and review of every little piece and posting out there, though I think I have a firm enough grasp on what is going on now.

It's all of a right and proper image-chan blowout, let me tell you ….

There's too much interpersonal drama being bandied about for me to focus on. A professional journalist or, far better, a novelist should be taking notes and building up a narrative. Not for me, sorry. 8chan has no where reached Enron levels of epic perfidy, but that twelve thousand dollars purchased for us all one hell of an entertaining story. For other writers there's an opportunity here; someone should wade in and dramatize the ride.

The community is going to rape Josh's name with a mud-stick. There is a kernel of justification to that. As he ran roughshod over community participation and insisted on shooting from the hip, and now must face the ire alone. Be that as it may, reading and listening to Hotwheels commentary has strongly reinforced two key observations. One: Hotwheel's disengagement from the community was real, and went beyond a mere refusal to entertain trolls and time wasting drama perpetrators. Two, the greater blame rests with Hotwheels for his failure to execute proper managerial oversight.

Josh may as well fade into the superannuated analog snow static night, or wherever chan personalities of the past go to rest.

Hotwheels holds redemption in his lap with the promise of putting our house back in order, sticking close to his well honed tools of trade. Good enough for me. For all the shortcomings and drag race side-slipping drama, he remains head and shoulders above Moot.

As for /lit/, as long as the greater 8chan community holds together, and likes keeping an ember of the original migration's torch aflame we'll do all right.

Here's to the hope we will be reminiscing a year from now, bantering about the bad old days, and laughing at some misinformed chan journalism tier retrospective or two.

Anonymous 01/26/16 (Tue) 20:58:20 No.8422

Also, I'll see if I can get the BO to put in a word or two. She's been playing hooky with the excuse that the blizzard drove her off the grid.

Anonymous ## Board Owner 01/27/16 (Wed) 03:34:15 No.8425

So, here we are.

Stay practical. Limit the speculation.

With Fredrick back in the saddle again things are looking up. We can look forward to stability in location. At least. Maybe, even increasing stability in the application?

Fingers crossed.

In a celebratory vote of confidence a few minor changes will be made. The board sub-pages will be put back to where they belong. I am going to unblock TOR image posting. These changes and an announcement of will be made later tomorrow.

Big thanks to the BV for bringing me up to speed on the recent news.

Thank you all.

Post last edited at 01/27/16 (Wed) 03:41:06

Anonymous 01/30/16 (Sat) 18:18:41 No.8459

I only posted once on the next. I never bothered to check the other site anyways since this board is still available.