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Liberate tuteme ex Excelsior!

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 No.8591

Is this still relevant?

 No.8603

it's the first time i hear about it.

but i guess this says more about me than the book.


 No.8617

>>8603

btw i feel the need to justify myself for this kind of posts.

it's a small board and threads on specific books are likely to get no reply.

i guess i'm one of those people who think that indifference is worse than hatred.


 No.8622

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Funny, in the sense that having a lack of commentary is itself an answer.

Not having read the book almost invites opining on the state of education now. That may not be fair as I suspect Russell was addressing more specific topics from back then, plus pushing the parochial breaking effect of the English educational system as seen by the people living then.

Russell spans a critical gap of time in human history, stretching back into the nineteen century. By the educational standards of earlier times what we have done is near miraculous. We have achieved almost universal literacy, basic numeracy, and simple arithmetic aptitude. We may hand almost anyone a bible and expect them to read it out loud, follow a bus or train schedule to get to work, do data entry and scheduling, insert tab A into tab B and tighten with measured tool C – all without someone else standing over the shoulder to provide gesturing guidance. Yes, they would be amazed.

Unfortunately, what education is needed now is farther removed from these basics, and delves ever more deeply into the abstract. What we get are never ending drives to install values that were wearing thin in the nineteenth century itself, and prison daycare centers.

Just another obstacle to be overcome.

If this book and Russell's opinions are still relevant today then Carl Sagan's are far more so. And Gore Vidal. And many others … pic especially related.

Sorry this is tangential to the specific topic, OP. Blame my teachers.


 No.8626

>>8617

I mean, I feel like because it's a small board, almost all extra content is good content. You might try doing something like "Is this still relevant? Also education general thread."

Anyway, like everyone else in the thread, I haven't read it.


 No.8646

>>8622

> in the sense that having a lack of commentary is itself an answer.

generally speaking i'd say you're right. but i'm not a native english speaker so i'd say i don't count.

if i had to pick some very old work on education i'd probably try some work from this guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Gentile

his reform of italian school was pretty valid.




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