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Liberate tuteme ex Excelsior!

 No.8884

https://theweek.com/articles/447197/why-neil-degrasse-tyson-philistine

>He proudly proclaims his irritation with "asking deep questions" that lead to a "pointless delay in your progress" in tackling "this whole big world of unknowns out there." When a scientist encounters someone inclined to think philosophically, his response should be to say, "I'm moving on, I'm leaving you behind, and you can't even cross the street because you're distracted by deep questions you've asked of yourself. I don't have time for that."

>With these words, Tyson shows he's very much a 21st-century American, living in a perpetual state of irritated impatience and anxious agitation. Don't waste your time with philosophy! (And, one presumes, literature, history, the arts, or religion.) Only science will get you where you want to go! It gets results! Go for it! Hurry up! Don't be left behind! Progress awaits!

fucking scientism lel

 No.8885

File: 1456944689442.png (57.92 KB, 1203x589, 1203:589, Capture.PNG)

>>8884

forgot pic


 No.8888

File: 1456947271236.png (765.35 KB, 1762x2089, 1762:2089, atheist-dubs2.png)

>caring about meme scientists


 No.8889

File: 1456948401467.jpg (66.02 KB, 970x727, 970:727, the three heathens.jpg)

>>8884

>I don't have time for philosophy!

>I have importanter things to do!

Like doing selfies with Barack Hussein Obama? Top lel


 No.8892

>>8888

posted it because i felt his view was an apt representation of the average plebian view on philosophy.


 No.8895

>>8884

>These early philosophers were forerunners of today's natural scientists, in other words, and one imagines that Tyson would treat them with the kind of condescending respect that scientists often reserve for their forerunners in the history of science.

>Philosophy rightly understood is the mind's rigorous, open-ended, radically undogmatic pursuit of this self-knowledge.

>>8892

It doesn't really represent his hypocrisy in dealing with spooks.


 No.8896

I dunno. I think you are looking to provoke a stronger stereotyped halfchan response, OP. Philosophy has always meshed into /lit/ culture, but the people here aren't too deep into it. I've seen some basic discussions along the lines of: "hey, this is an interesting idea," and an occasional link to decent undergraduate introductories of some philosophical system. High level advanced stuff such as valuation of entire systems of thought isn't likely to gain much traction, nor interest.

Instead of first order philosophical discussions, discussions of novels incorporating some philosophy appear to be more to our liking (and level of competence) here.

Ideology trolling might carry you further along, but even our resident /pol/ posters are a fairly laid back lot.

Good luck with it however.


 No.8897

>>8896

i wasnt looking to provoke anything, or even a particular response though i understand why you think that i am.


 No.8907

>>8888

checked


 No.8950

File: 1457210124896.jpg (188.8 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Z7X9qGf.jpg)

I have a huge interest in theoretical physics and mathematics (I'm taking a degree in it so I should), but that doesn't mean I don't have time to ask myself what really matters.

Progress isn't a real thing. Maybe if Neil read more philosophy (I suggest that he needs Straw Dogs immediately) then he wouldn't talk such bullshit.

Beware of meme physicists everyone.

Pic related, it's the question I really wanna ask this guy.


 No.8954

To be honest, I think it's fine for people to disregard philosophy and simply live.

However, to handwave it like Tyson does is fucking retarded.

Sure, he may be smart in the sense that he can do science, but I fear he overestimates himself in how valuable his words are. He should just shut up and go back to being black science man, instead of being black irrelevant opinion man.


 No.8956

>>8954

>To be honest, I think it's fine for people to disregard philosophy and simply live.

Same goes for the natural sciences, in my eyes. Seems to me that philosophers are a lot more humble about this than scientists.




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