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Are there any analytic philosophers worth wasting one's time on?

pic is quine

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what did you call me



Tao == anon



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In theory, I find poetry to be fascinating; artistic use of language to convey the writer's inalienable experiences and possibly life itself in a greater sense. I can't seem to find anything that really resonates with me, just seems to come off as super trite or overly "weak". I understand there's a place for that stuff, but surely there's something out there that is forceful and compelling (something that I personally want/need more of to combat the mediocrity that seems overly prevalent in culture and my life).

Any recommendations?

Also, poetry discussion in general is cool. Doesn't look like there's any other threads present.

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OP here, I've been digging into poetry a bit as of late, but I've really taken a liking to Emily Dickinson and Robert Frost. I know they're big name poetry people, so nothing new here for most of you, but I think that kind of put me off from taking a closer look at them. Lots of depth in their work, not the surface level pastoral stuff that I was expecting.



Did you ever browse /qq/? I recognize your cute post avatar.





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who is this ugly girl, stop poasting her

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So I started a blog where I post reviews of stuff I read/watch etc

My issue is that I feel my texts are insipid, I make interesting points but i present them in a way I feel it's not interesting or that catches the readers attention.

PLs help me.

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>I personally think the solipsistic mode of essay writing without collaboration is dying as a form of knowledge sharing anyway.


writing essays alone is great



Anyonymity and pseudonymity eliminates narcicissim in communication. Unless every word is justified in an argument, essays can be masturbatory.


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why does everyone use this

I don't disagree with you, but essays can be and often are pseudonymous without being collaborative…


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I don't think reviewing other people's work can be any solipsistic


How do I even negate bad writing?


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>How do I even negate bad writing?

take ur writing that is bad.

cut it up into pieces.

put it in a hat.

take the pieces and rearrange them.

this will help you think of your writing in a different way. then rewrite.

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>Continental Philosophy > Analytic Philosophy

>Nietzsche & Schopenhauer > Hegel & Marx

>Jung > (((Freud)))

>Post-War French Thought > Frankfurt School

>Post-Structuralism > Post-Modernism

>Whither Existentialism?

>Foucault > Baudrillard > ? > ? > ? > … (((Derrida)))

>Surveiller et punir : Naissance de la prison > L'Histoire de la sexualité

>Lectures at the Collège de France > Surveiller et punir : Naissance de la prison

>Society Must Be Defended > Security, Territory, Population

oh, also, obviously

>power > justice -=- fuck you (((Chomsky)))

ITT: We Talk About Why Foucault is Best

Does anyone know why Surveiller et punir has been translated to Discipline & Punish instead of Surveil & Punish?

Genealogy vs Archeology?

>inb4 (((Judith Butler)))


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>moar posturing

i was really hoping for a valid discussion, but it seems i was being naive


I never had the sense that Nietzsche ever engaged with Hegel per se, and not Marx either. The closest he was to the former was his essay on Strauss, which had almost nothing to do with Hegel himself beyond some cursory remarks influenced by Schopenhauer; the closest he was to the latter were his short condemnations of anarchists and socialists generally, although even those seemed more aimed at the utopian strains (e.g. Fourierism) and the more nihilistic anarchists influenced by Blanquism and the like.

And the ((())) crap does make this thread look like a /pol/ (is cancer)lack thread, even if that wasn't the intention.



>gay posturing

>thinking i'll not recognize ur references and be intimidated


>I never had the sense that Nietzsche ever engaged with Hegel per se, and not Marx either.

I never said he engaged "directly" with them

>the closest he was to the former was his essay on Strauss

lol, is that what google told you? how about:

(a) On the Uses and Abuses of History for Life

(b) pretty much everything he wrote, when it comes down to it, is fundamentally in conflict w/ Hegel's perspective

>the closest he was to the latter were his short condemnations of socialists

He wrote whole tracts on the mindset of these people (The Priests, etc), and the parts where he mentioned socialists specifically were not short in any way shape or form. How about you actually read Niezsche before you talk, eh?

>muh utopian socialists

The parts where he specifically mentioned socialists were aimed at the Social Democratic Party of his time, iirc. You're just talking out your ass, now, unless you're going to go full-on retard and claim that only your little special snowflake form of socialism isn't "Utopian" (>muh Marx & Engels) and then ignore everything Nietzsche wrote (eg. The Priests) and try to retcon him like he's not completely incompatible with Marxism, like (((Judith Butler))), the Agonist Dems and other retards.

>protip: Nietzsche is completely incompatible with everything /leftypol/

There may be some strains of anarchism or hardcore nihilistic post-modernist/post-structuralist stuff that you might be able to squeeze him into, but it'll have nothing to do with Hegel or Marx, and that's the original point.

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>>gay posturing

I was only starting a discussion. I was giving it the benefit of the doubt after the /v/-like x>y start and ((())), as if it would mean anything beyond "/pol/ (is cancer) is leaking" to anyone here. Maybe I just don't recognize your sheer genius in starting a philosophy thread as if it's video game shitposting.

>>thinking i'll not recognize ur references and be intimidated

No, I assumed you would, although this response does strike me as somewhat insecure.

>pretty much everything he wrote, when it comes down to it, is fundamentally in conflict w/ Hegel's perspective

I don't disagree that it's fundamentally in conflict. I just never had the sense he engaged with Hegel directly beyond Schopenhauer's response to him.

Also, "pretty much everything he wrote"? I was talking about a specific engagement, so this is nonsensical. On the Use and Abuse of History responds to a progressive idea of history; while Hegel's idea of history is that, it isn't specifically to Hegel.

>You're just talking out your ass, now


But it's possible; it's been a while since I've read him, and at the time I wouldn't have cared much to distinguish between the Marxist groups, socdems, and utopian socialists.

Aggressive posturing is also posturing. I'm not sure why you were hoping for a "valid discussion" when your OP and responses both guarantee that you won't have much more than provocation in response to provocation. Enjoy your terrible thread.



>>gay posturing

<<I was only starting a discussion. I was giving it the benefit of the doubt after the /v/-like x>y start and ((())), as if it would mean anything beyond "/pol/ (is cancer) (is cancer) is leaking" to anyone here. Maybe I just don't recognize your sheer genius in starting a philosophy thread as if it's video game shitposting.

Kek. Can we get some milk for that burn. I think the poltard is a genuinely insecure faggot.

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So you're chatting up an 8/10 qt pi and you ask her who her favorite novelist is and she says Tao Lin.

What do you do?

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Where is this from?



*nglo book literature.


cherish her, respect her, shoplift books with her, discuss phil with her.

tao lin is trully a greatest novelist of our era




"In the Spirit of Pride Night is an evening education event for adults, ages 21 and over. The theme is “Same Sex Animal Interactions and SSPs”. We will address our Zoo’s mission of Education, Conservation, and Stewardship in the context of scientific research, public relations, conservation institutions, and Species Survival Plan (SSP) breeding programs. The event is meant to be informative, yet tongue-in-cheek fun."



brainlet leftypol



the joke


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Hey readers!




>current books

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Dubliners by James Joyce


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Just started Wuthering Heights, reading a translation in parallel with the original English. The translated version was sitting idle and somber on my mother's shelf, a nice hardcover with analogue typography printed 30 years ago, the papers look aged and the smell is enchanting. Brought back the little lad home with me. A strong wind is ringing the trees outside the window. Hadn't reached this level /comfy/ in months.


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FBI Special Agent

Dulles, VA

How to Disappear Completely



lmfao parrot fucker



god i wish that were me

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Any STEMlords on this board? How do you find the time to read? I'm studying electrical engineering and honestly the only time I have to read is in the summer. Will things get better when I start working? Or will I be more fucked? I want to get into philosophy and stuff. ;_;

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Start a revolution and establish yourself as the bureaucratic master class. That's how Joseph Stalin and supreme leader Kim I'll-Sung lived long and prosperous lives.


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too much paperwork



Mapleposting is best posting.

I might go full posadist and welcome the nuclear arms for true socialism at this point. Create society from the ashes up with my mutated fuck zombies.


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posadism is just ultranationalism


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What the fuck I'm a posadist now

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>muh eros

Extremely pseud concept.

Why do krauts like this gook again.

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I know but who the fuck is byung-chul han



Some philosopher I dunno



I don't care if you don't know him

Who is he?



Read a book nigger


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>author poses for photos with a cigarette or pipe

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Now this is white pruvledge!!!!!!


>author poses for photo with Tao Lin


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>author writes thinly-veiled propaganda about her nation for a western audience (fuck you Marjane Satrapi)


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holy shit, I didn't think a woman could be this ugly

had to put that shit in spoilers, it's jarring

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Do you have a favorite author? If so, why?

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<"this is the picture that is killing white nationalism" - Buzzfeed


Stephen King



The Stand was actually an excellent post apocalyptic novel.



shit taset


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how would you know

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In addition to dumping good /lit/-related memes, I am also going to mine old threads for interesting conversations and memes from pre-2015 4lit

if anyone wants to join me, I am going to be using warosu.org/lit/ along with other resources

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That would be perfect, thanks



Make a new thread, this thread is largely gonna be archival


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>tfw someone says they don't read 50 books per day


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>tfw someone says they don't read 500 books per day



wtf I want to fuck nipples now

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Lets talk about the Lost Cause of years gone by

I dumped old meme and screengrabs on >>251

I used to browse Lost Cause from 2009-10 to 2013-14 but I don't have memorable moments to share beside the famous ones we all know about

I can't say if Lost Cause was legitimately fun or if it was the culture of the era but back then I felt so fulfilled being able to talk about belles lettres because even today there was no place like Lost Cause back then.

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I miss icycalm :(


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If you miss icycalm, imitate him. We could always use a new one.



I miss icycalm the way I miss the retarded guy that used to catcall women at my local gas station; there is nothing worthwhile to emulate


I miss Quentin

just kidding


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Icycalm is the greatest thinker of our time.How dare you insult him.

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Hey /litpat/, nice meeting you.

Politics have ruined my life, poisoned my mind and I am looking to salvage what I can by reading a book to radically depoliticize my mind.

I've thought about reading "The Communist" by Guido Morselli which supposedly deals with and embraces, celebrates the nihilism many self-proclaimed communists find themselves trapped within.

Do you have anything to recommend? Have a nice day.

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so you want a woman who will treat you like a housepet? what the fuck dude


go read Nihilist Communism by Monsieur Dupont



damn, this is great, thanks for the recc



good suggestions


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Any suggestion with Mishima in it is a good suggestion.

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>go to university for humanities degree

>read no books, maybe one chapter

for fucks sake I expected more, this is not fun at all.

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>I thought N cited Socrates as one of the great men of history

He does praise Socrates in a few cases, although he regarded Socrates (and Plato) as someone who perverted Ancient Greece's moral/aesthetic sense toward slave morality (mainly because of his hatred of life which arose from him being physically revolting; the comparison between him and Silenus was probably what Nietzsche had in mind). Nietzsche had a similarly ambivalent attitude toward Jesus as a person.

Kierkegaard also notably had an ambivalent attitude toward Socrates and his ironic mode.


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People are fucking stupid. Why do you think they were pursuing philosophy degrees in the first place? Probably because they (rightfully) thought it would be easy.



It's such a shame. Just by the nature of the subject, it should be one of the hardest majors.

But, like most humanities, hell, like most MAJORS, every writing assignment anymore boils down to "well, they met the page limit and did their best…"


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why are philosophy departments in america such shit

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icycalm showed his thesis to be a triviality in the genealogy of "art" games

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If this is true, I am jealous.



what's the best literary work of all time



figure that out for yourself, pleb



Infinite Jest by the GOAT alt right author DFW.



are you gay

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