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Alright 4chan /lit/erati,

Old /lit/ has died— to those of us who have browsed the board for years, it has become apparent that the quality of the board has decreased. One can blame this on a number of factors— the introduction of /pol/ to halfchan in 2011, an increase in the number of younger and less experienced readers into the folds of /lit/ (and 4chan, generally) over the years, the introduction of general threads, the exodus from /lit/ due to the creation of /his/, the influx of genre-fiction related posts, etc…

Ground rules for /litpat/:

The focus of this board is literary fiction and philosophy; please attempt to focus on these two subjects. Other subjects up for discussion: psychoanalysis, economics, sociology, hypermedia, visual art, architecture.

No political posts unless they involve academic political philosophy; if you post far-right political thinkers out of context, you will be temporarily banned. If you post far-left political thinkers outside of the framework of academic political philosophy or socialist realist fiction, expect similar treatment. This does not mean that fiction writers with fascist or Marxist tendencies are not up for discussion; just do not try to promote political views. Discussion of political philosophy is encouraged; active promotion of such philosophy is not.

Anything that smells of /pol/ shitposting will result in permaban.

Put explicit porn in spoilers or the file will be deleted.

Writing/critique threads are actively encouraged.

Only Gene Wolfe posting is acceptable: all other genre-fiction posting will result in a temporary ban.

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post your ideal /lit/ lifestyle

-cold and nearly silent marriage, with sex, with pic related

-alcoholism + small manageable heroin addiction

-wear comfy all black all the time

-hyper minimalist house with almost no possessions except some extremely expensive furniture and art

-work is publishing marxist/poststructural articles in known academic journals

-no children

-grey hair by 29

-suicide around 55

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I do not want an eccentric life. Moving to a small town once I have got my degree, living frugally and alone, saving my income from my main job, spending my time reading and hiking in nature. 25 years later moving to the capital, pursuing wealth, a family, founding a publishing house and cultural institute, and activism.


>falling this hard for a /fa/ pasta

But you posted a Al-Aalam Al-Harbi screen, so you're patrician enough.


I'm living my ideal /lit/ lifestyle but struggling to find motivation/time to read. I also suffer from a minor void of meaning.

I love Chinese women.


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>be a publishing mogul

>coax up-and-coming female writers into letting me sniff their feet in exchange for publishing and promotion

>eventually get #MeToo'd

>get off on the public humiliation and disgrace

>publish my diary years later



I can pretend to be chinese woman if you want.

Ching chong ping pong me rubba you rong time



the absolute racism - at least 'ching chong ping pong' are phonetic Chinese sounds, but ‘rubba you rong time’ is a bastardized reference to Vietnamese hookers, an entirely different professional culture from that of my beloved silk concubines.


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Hey guys. I really like this board. And I realize we're really not the posting kind. How about we post in this thread once everytime we check the board, with whatever comes to mind? That way we can keep the posts-per-minute a little bit up and maybe a nice discussion pops up from time to time

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>"It is perhaps helpful here to point out that Badiou's mathematics and Meillassoux's mathematics – two seemingly similar but principally different takes on mathematics – are merely functional and topographic fractions of the domain of mathematics. Mathematics is neither set theory nor solely a systemic discourse shaped around the empty sign (Meillassoux) even though the latter astonishingly unbinds a very broad scope of mathematics in which the generative mechanisms of mathematics – contingency and continuity – find their true expressions (cf. Peirce). Note that Meillassoux however in his recent paper on iteration and the free sign restricts the operation of the free and empty sign to contingency alone which again results in an entirely new set of shortcomings for outlining the landscape of mathematics and its true capabilities. As a discipline endowed with maximal conceptual stability in which both universal adjoints of conception – the conditioning of the concept by the real and the oblique and asymptotic traction of the concept on the real – are present, mathematics is the constitutive gesture of knowledge, a realm through which thought non-classically stabilizes itself. Insofar as mathematics is the constitutive 'gesture' of knowledge (yet not the totality of knowledge) and by the virtue of the primacy of knowledge over any imperative, mathematics cannot and should not be, by any means, ejected from the global structure of thought or praxis on any level. Also, from a different perspective, the unreasonable generativity of mathematics sublimated in various modes of geometrical inference where normativity does not essentially repeat the initial and boundary conditions of reason (i.e. being reasonable) is one of the most promising trajectories for programming the next paradigm of machines whereby the efficacy of capitalism (effective only insofar as it is narrow in scope) is supplanted by the improvisational competence or effectivity of geometric metis, a different trajectory of reason ultimately inassimilable for the programmatic kernel of capitalism.

>However, in complete accord with Alex, we should not forget that there is always a temptation to turn mathematics into the calculus of dogmatism and imperial education of thought anPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



>"Now on to Laruelle: I feel that resurgence of some of these currents against mathematics is strongly influenced by Laruelle's general attitude toward mathematics, itself a pure overreaction to an admittedly restricted and partially biased philosophies of mathematics saturated by an overzealous Platonist interpretation of mathematics, rather than mathematics as a universal and irreconcilable tension space between Plato and Aristotle. This has pushed Laruelle to embrace a so-called alternative to the alleged dominion of mathematics: physics instead of mathematics. I will go into details in another post about all this but suffice to say that the prioritization of math over physics or vice versa reminds me of math and physics freshmen who cluelessly rant about the priority of their respected disciplines (Mine is the first science yours is shit!). There is an absolute and insurmountable entanglement between mathematics and physics (whether quantum or relativity) from the perspective of mathematical constructions. This is the complete imbrication of physics and mathematics on the level of mathematical structures. There is no physics without mathematics. The latter allows for the articulation of the intelligibility for the former. This is exactly the perspective of modern physics following physicists like Einstein, Schrodinger and Weyl: physics – both quantum and relativity – is “geometry in action” (Boi). It is because geometry (where the role of regularities of space and time in mathematics surpasses that of logics and formalism) is but construction principles and mathematical structures (products parametrized by invariances of spacetime) and as I said, modern physics is at the base, the domain of mathematical structures (geometry of affines, metrics and connections) and their operativity. The separation between math and physics takes place on the level of their respective proof principles: logics and formalistic calculi for mathematics and experience and observation for physics. But even on this level, one should be extremely cautious of the subtle micro-entanglements between physics and mathematics. Physics without math is merely a philosophical or folk theoretical myth. Likewise, mathematics abstracted and purified from physics is a cheap joke told over and over again at the expense of Plato. The gestPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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What is some Francisco de Goya-inspired lit?



how do i stop hating myself



just 🐝 yourself

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Favorite part of Fear and Trembling?


The part where it wrongly says Abraham wanted to sacrifice Issac instead of Ishmael.

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Everymans's Library

Norton Critical Editions

Gutenberg Project


Oxford World's Classics

(Older) Penguin Classics (paperbacks)

Loeb Classical Library


Library of America

Dover Thrifts



(Newer) Penguin Classics (paperbacks)

Modern Library Classics

Cambridge Library Collection

Wordsworth Editions


Folio Society (hardbacks)

Penguin Classics (hardbacks)

B&N (hardback)

Franklin Library

Easton Press

[and other "leatherbound" collections]


Harper Perennial

B&N (paperback)


NYRB Classics



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Everyman's should also be listed as reddit-core.



>God tier:

Gutenberg Project

<Shit tier:

Everything else


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Good job, anon. Now go actually read something.



I like B&N's paperbacks. People shit on them for using cheaper translations, but I've loved most of what I've read.

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Respect this community, respect the kind of environment we are attempting to create, the kind of dialogues we wish to engage in, and I (along with everyone else here) will respect you, ok? :)





I wasn't the user that got banned. I'm just another random anon and not >>420. I worded my posts a bit poorly. I'm not a fan of /po​l/ and its way of thinking either. And I actually agree with your and >>436 views on the article too. It's nothing more than stupid clickbait feeding on outrage. I used to enjoy browsing both /po​l/ and /leftpo​l/ even though I didn't agree with either of their philosphies because it was fun and interesting to debate with people. But both of those boards went to shit and became shells of their former selves in large part because the moderation began to over-rely on banning instead of allowing the users to take care of the shitposters themselves.

And of course I do not intend or mean to drag politics into the board or to politicize obvious clickbait. Just offering my advice since I wish this new board well.

>bans on this website are effectively meaningless so… fuck my life, I guess

Like I said here >>434 bans can still be effective and are still neccessary to make sure shit stirrers don't ruin a board. Just make sure to remember that bans aren't the only tool to use, the userbase themselves, the board culture, are also a tool to curtail shitposters.

/tv/ is a fantastic example of the extreme opposite problem. They took the exact opposite position and never banned anyone only giving bans to illegal content, even spamming the board only resulted in deleting the spam but leaving the spammer unbanned. Unsurprisingly /tv/ also went to shit. Over-relying and under-relying on bans can both lead to degradation of board quality. As long you guys remain clear on the board culture you want to cultivate I think you'll do just fine.

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Ok, thanks for the advice :)

As you recognized right off the bat, I'm new to this so I appreciate all the help I can get

Thanks, brother!


This is what happens when you let women run a publication.


X wants Y for Z reason plotlines (which in this article, X is a White™ male, Y is le sex with a female™ and Z is sexual tension). Obviously, the only thing that the classics could ever be about is White Male™ sexuality.

The absolute state of Journalism today. This article is a dreadful gift that keeps on giving.

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This thread is dedicated to discussing ways in which we can directly recruit from 4chan /lit/.

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kek, fuck off then, faggot


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>an impossible task

(1)board is invite only.

(2)mods must approve all invites.

(3)minimum post before invite privilege rule.

(4)ban annoying faggots.

(5)scheduled cycle of discussions

(6)sticky a book-swap/haul/request BuySellTrade-style thread

(7)abuse exclusivity to lure authors to the site for AMAs/previews

(8)use said authors' prestige to entice quality posters to accept invites

it's not really all that hard to make a decent Literature forum, you just have to stop treating it like a fucking cork-board in a uni hallway.



Having an invite only image board is anti ethical to the whole culture of egalitarianism, let alone anonymity, that makes the medium special.




this is why everything sucks now.

the noise-to-signal ratio is so fucked.

you will never get anything great done in your life if you keep letting idiots waste your time and ruin your plans.

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So you're chatting up an 8/10 qt pi and you ask her who her favorite novelist is and she says Ayn Rand.

What do you do?

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>critique of Rand by her 14-year-old boy-lover cum Sith lord student

this should be mandatory fucking reading by anyone who is obsessed with Rand. This guy was literally raised by her and worshiped her like a goddess, and even HE still eventually moved away and found some serious flaws.

AYNAL RAMNED is not a Literary figure; She is a Political pundit and a Public speaker who found outsize attention because of the cold war and the Boomer Ego, whilst real Literary Masters like Solzhenitsyn were largely panned by the media.



This is fascinating. Thank you for sharing. I’m glad that I now how a way to very easily put neoliberals in their place when they begin to spout Ayn Rand bullshit. Also the notion of that goblina seducing a young boy sickens me. Someone should have sent her family as well as her to the gulags. Looking at you, Stalin.



It's easy to pick on The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged, but everyone knows her best writing is her theoretical exposition. You should point the qt3.14 to best work, a collection of essays called "Philosophy: Who Needs It?"



>14 years old

He was 20, and they were both degenerates (he cheated on at least 3 of his 4 wives).



>point qt3.14 to the spark notes version of Rand

if she is already a fan, you done fookin goofed m8

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Why is it that when people like Metzinger deconstruct (not in the exact sense of linguistic deconstruction but similiar) the Self, the Kantians, leftoids and other assorted philosophical grannies chimp out, but when they use deconstruction to attack national identities, borders and etc they think it's alright? I hate hypocrites.



they aren't pro-deconstruction

they are anti-white



In a similar vein, I would say they merely use more sophisticated forms of ideology to attack ideologies that they don’t like. It’s political struggle for better or worse. Usually worse.


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the shared game of life is one we all must play.

It is a hard trial; longer than the seas are wide, and beyond the deepest memory one might fathom.

All's fair in Love and War, but the honor we hold is what separates mice from men, and to so forthrightly cast aside the rules of the game is to lower oneself below that of the sternest ass and fallow hog; to be at once with the very slop that holds the refuse of the fallen.

O pity not these wicked fiends who splay across the trough, lest you find yourself foolishly enamored; thrust headlong into the foul bile as Narcissus once displayed to all men. Nay, I bid you, hold steadfastly to your means and pursue righteousness by any path. Drag from the chaos of primordial slop that which enlightens all and you will find the bounds lifted from your feet. Fly! Fly! O shining one. Fly outside the reach of the shrieking hags who envy you with all their being. Persist against all odds!

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Sorrows of Young Werther


Venus in Furs

Notes from the Underground


The Hunchback of Notre Dame


kek Confessions of a Mask, Some Prefer Nettles as well as No Longer Human are definitely lit for incels. The Japanese do it well.



Sorrows of Young Werther is good.


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>she cute

she cute

>she cute

she cute

>no xenofeminist mommy gf


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>tfw you will never have a qt pi deconstructionist literary studies professor gf


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>that bowlcut

nuke it



That. Seriously wtf was that girl thinking. Poor little academic.




Her voice is somewhat annoying but pretty articulate.


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Can video games be art?

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They have the potential to. See, they have countless ways of expressing themselves, visual and auditory.


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Could you explain a little more about why you think Earthbound is so good? I played it a few years ago, and while it was a satisfying experience, your post is making me consider that the game had some greater aspects to it that flew over my head. If there's anything that could make me appreciate it more than I already do, I would love to hear it.

I would play Mother 3 just to see the latter half of the game and the ending. You might not think it quite hits the mark the same way Earthbound did, but I think it's still a great game in its own right and one of the very few worthwhile games out there.

Do you have any other games you would recommend playing?

I hope nobody is bothered by this thread. I know this is a literature board, but some games do have artistic merit, which is what we're all really joined together by, right? Pls no ban



I really like Earthbound because the story comes through in the tiniest of details, and makes the world feel alive like the best literature does. But idk. You've played it so I don't think there's much else I can say.

The final boss of course is very special for a video game. Having to pray for help was a beautiful moment, especially when fighting against this great intangible omnipresent evil. Very unique.

I'll try to finish Mother 3 at some point. I did really enjoy it.

As far as other games go, I would recommend killer7 if you haven't played it. Extremely bizarre in its narrative. Very intellectual and political in its themes. Has this feverishly psychological Lynch-style to it. Seems in retrospect to have been prophetic on issues like domestic terrorism and neetdom.



Play visual novels my child.

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"To the gas chambers, and step on it!"

- notorious neo-Nazi and KKK member DFW

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I believe it. "Put your finger on the big red button, and push on it. 1488" was one of the last things he said before he an heroed.



I thought DFW was jewish…



No, he was definitely a Nazi hitler antisemite



Yeah, someone told me he was a pozzed out jewish gay man who used his position as novel-lord to infect white boy butt

but I could be wrong



I’m not sure about all of that, but I heard he was definitely a bug chasing pozz lord who infected most of the alt right with aids. I’m

pretty sure he contracted AIDS from David Duke and spread it to that bald soyboy Chris Cantwell. Supposedly cantwell passed the gay aids onto the black community.

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Discuss psychoanalysis and psychoanalytic literature!

Some Introductory Reading ::::)

- A Clinical Introduction to Lacanian Psychoanalysis

- The Fundamentals of Psychoanalytic Technique

- A Clinical Introduction to Freudian Psychoanalysis

- The Interpretation of Dreams

Remember, you are not obliged to enjoy!


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Has anyone here actually had any success meeting with a psychoanalyist? I have a shrink but I'm thinking about going balls deep and finding a Jungian psychoanalyst.



I met Freud in a dream once.

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ITT: God-tier neo-bourgeoisie "theory" nerd cringe.

>anything published by Semiotext(e)

>anything Tiqqun

>anything on Zero Books

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Actually this is the classic one. The eerie thing about these books is that they have a "cool" feeling to them. Almost like the feeling/aura that punk zines, books like SIEGE or underground RAC/Oi! bands have. I guess the extremes will have to meet somewhere aesthetically.



Mark "dude depression is all due to capitalism lmaow" Fisher had some cool ideas but this book doesn't really present them.

Read Flatline Constructs instead.



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This dude got heavily butthurt over me saying Manuel DeLanda has written great secondary literature on Deleuze. And his main objection was that DeLanda did not write in a specifically political goal-oriented muh minorities way, and called him an "entrepreneurial Daniel Dennett". I swear these media studies niggs will make everyone hate the themes associated with Deleuze.

>the face of "I'm totally agaisnt liberal Deleuze studies, look at me, a true militant" theoretician




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