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File: d8abfa8bf5f2079⋯.jpg (98.63 KB, 800x462, 400:231, viejos-comiendo-sopa.jpg)

 No.1120

Hey guys. I really like this board. And I realize we're really not the posting kind. How about we post in this thread once everytime we check the board, with whatever comes to mind? That way we can keep the posts-per-minute a little bit up and maybe a nice discussion pops up from time to time

 No.1124

File: 00f4a0ec26756d6⋯.png (1.3 MB, 2000x1000, 2:1, 1529428695314.png)

Aaaahhh, that new books smell.


 No.1126

Sir yes sir!


 No.1128

>tfw live in Eastern Europe

>tfw translated books are expensive

>tfw shipping original books is expensive

>tfw pirate most books

>tfw sometimes buy bootleg books, or print and bind them myself

Feels good man.


 No.1129

the reading list just gets longer and longer the more i read.


 No.1131

File: 36444df6ac4779e⋯.jpg (73.88 KB, 1080x607, 1080:607, IMG_20180629_191204_084.jpg)

Going to drink coffee tonight, see Chads and Stacys walk around happily, feel demoralized and LARP as Londonfrog.


 No.1132

File: 06f3ac5ea615fdc⋯.png (11.42 KB, 411x387, 137:129, perplexpepe.png)

Why do online literature communities have an unfavorable view of Edgar Allan Poe?


 No.1133

File: 8a1fd702f9aa8f2⋯.jpeg (105.12 KB, 1200x847, 1200:847, image.jpeg)

I want to be like this guy when I grow up. How can one person single-handedly be this lucid.


 No.1139

>>1132

Not sure about online communities but I think he's overrated, his prose is so antiquated-sounding that it is difficult to enjoy. (almost forcibly so, it's harder for me to read Poe than Shakespeare or Sterne)

also, most of his stories have very little interesting happening besides shock value, never read a Poe story where I really enjoyed any of the characters outside of a morbid impulse… I think this type of writing is so easy to create that it is cheap


 No.1140

>>1133

literal who


 No.1144

File: 311aaf475006759⋯.gif (676.49 KB, 160x240, 2:3, Serbia stronk.gif)

>>1139

>>1128

Is it financially sound to print your own books and maybe sell them? Do you have any tips or stories of the trade?

>>1139

Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he's bad. The man was a genius. Ofc nowadays his prose is completely out of fashion, but the way he weaves togheter episodes and handles the tempo is like the work of an artisan.

>I think this type of writing is so easy to create that it is cheap

You remind me of this guy who told bukowski "i can write liek u but u can't write liek me im a geenus xD"

Why don't you go ahead and do it, faggot? C'mon, there's large wads of cash waiting for you, big boi. The next Poe, no less!


 No.1145

what would you do if you learned Tao Lin fucked your wife


 No.1146

File: a8d83d3a980e955⋯.jpg (118.82 KB, 720x494, 360:247, 1527373676170.jpg)

>>1144

>Bukowski

dropped


 No.1147

>>1128

my friends and I used to take our books to the printer and have the printer make bound copies of the books, then we shoudl share these copies.


 No.1152

File: 1920d02048d47f9⋯.png (120.88 KB, 420x420, 1:1, 1521837412566.png)

can't find any writings by Antoun Saadeh online. Just some shitty journal papers that mention him.


 No.1153


 No.1156

File: db5b5c6fca9e354⋯.jpg (185.21 KB, 935x1182, 935:1182, DBZ reference.jpg)

What do female /fitlit/s read?


 No.1158

File: 805d86eaecc7e6b⋯.jpeg (26.71 KB, 364x550, 182:275, 9780198790396.jpeg)

i'm reading this despite a huge backlog solely because the cover looks neat.


 No.1162

File: 2e7087cb137bc2e⋯.jpg (174.83 KB, 900x900, 1:1, 1522429990852.jpg)

Meds have fucked me up that I don't know if I'm horny, hungry, sleepy, or a subset of these. Time to fap, eat the remainder of my lunch and go to sleep I guess.


 No.1164

File: c5cdc4687897f70⋯.jpg (121.93 KB, 604x481, 604:481, IMG-20180628-WA0013.jpg)

I want to write more but it's so hard. I keep sabotaging mah dumb ass. But when it flows, its so beautiful…

>>1153

Good job anon. Don't let mental handicap be a barrier for you


 No.1165

>>1162

Whatcha taking buddy?


 No.1166

File: 9b4ed4b9c50cd02⋯.png (11.98 KB, 587x587, 1:1, fresco15.png)

>>1164

Post excerpts.


 No.1168

New k-punk book is up for preorder. Although this guy was pretty annoying I can't but have a sense of respect for him.

https://repeaterbooks.com/product/k-punk-the-collected-and-unpublished-writings-of-mark-fisher-2004-2016/


 No.1169

>>1164

SEETHING


 No.1170

File: f4ae1fc5f03c8e6⋯.jpg (247.21 KB, 1919x857, 1919:857, 77_02_Industrial_Cottage9.jpg)


 No.1172

File: e53258e77ca9e59⋯.png (1.26 MB, 1440x1421, 1440:1421, 1524136922041.png)

Hold on a minute, lid pad.


 No.1173

File: c99dcf5f28563ec⋯.gif (31.12 KB, 281x281, 1:1, burninated.gif)

Just finished the Mars trilogy (again). Got a few more books on my queue, but I want to read something religious next. Do I do "Seven Storey Mountain" or "The Way of a Pilgrim" next?


 No.1175

>>1173

Both seem great anon. But go for Seven Storey Mountain first.

How did you like the Mars Trilogy? I've been meaning to check them out for some time.


 No.1176

>>1168

And encountered this video today. Nice coincidence on my part.

https://youtu.be/gSvUqhZcbVg


 No.1177

File: d37c17acb2b7ff7⋯.jpg (215.04 KB, 460x1278, 230:639, Alfons_Mucha_-_1896_-_Lore….jpg)

>>1168

>>1168

Read a bit of.his blog. Sounds like your usual lefty shit-talker. At least Zizek is original


 No.1178

File: 60c826df292182b⋯.jpg (4.57 MB, 3006x5344, 9:16, IMG_20180623_143125488.jpg)

>>1175

The Mars trilogy is really enjoyable for it's focus on how societies form and adapt to life on Mars. Decent amount of political intrigue as well. Somewhat tempted to think of it as a hard science version of Ursula Le Guin's scifi works.

First book of the series is my favorite out of the bunch, but the only scifi trilogy that I've found to be consistently great through all the books was the Three Body Problem series. Green and Blue Mars are still very much worth the read though.

Seven Storey Mountain it is then. Thanks!


 No.1184


 No.1188

File: af6d1cdc78eb00c⋯.jpg (245.78 KB, 1500x2000, 3:4, 9-116-1301129.jpg)

How much pseud cred can I get by having these (all five) on my main shelf? Also suggest pseud cred books and collections. I'm tempted to buy a Bottom's Dream, preferably in the original German.


 No.1190

>>1188

You can get some nerd cred. Bang those math majors brah


 No.1258

File: 43ba141636e0fb6⋯.jpg (84.65 KB, 754x1158, 377:579, 46AF618A-8B02-4FFB-A717-F0….jpg)

>>1165

Venlafaxine. I feel the spirit and force of life coursing through my benis after taking it.


 No.1267

File: 08d7329089509a9⋯.jpg (50.81 KB, 420x361, 420:361, tumblr_inline_nre55rQoOc1t….jpg)

Margaret Ross is pretty

She write poetry


 No.1268

File: ea13db72d3d61e2⋯.jpg (103.36 KB, 837x540, 31:20, fc744ef49519cffe8cf6c9a2e1….jpg)

>>1267

>this post


 No.1269

File: 988953fdb0dd5e5⋯.jpg (106.55 KB, 759x538, 759:538, 8188c51db20ba098a5b2472e76….jpg)

>>1267

>>1268

she looks like foxworthy


 No.1287

File: d7d9e8d71930ef5⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 86.06 KB, 500x603, 500:603, anatomically-incorrect.jpg)


 No.1288

>>1287

had to spoiler that image bc it was fucking creepy, not really against the rules though


 No.1483

File: e569a7be36b4cf4⋯.png (508.04 KB, 864x849, 288:283, anime girl with interrogat….png)

>>1133

Where do I start with Negarestani?


 No.1486

>>1483

His stuff is varied. Start with his new blog, toyphilosophy.com, then read some of his articles on inhumanism, look forward to his upcoming book Intelligence and Spirit. Meanwhile you can check other articles he's written for the journal e-flux. I believe Cyclonopedia is not really worth wasting time on, but might be fun for you. The important thing to take from it are the underlying principles of wild imagination and world-building, and bringing influences from wide arrays of disiplines.

(the dogmatic undergrads and pseuds who think philosophical thought should be a tribal war between analytic and continental, or like to dunk on philosophy of science, mathematics or etc will not really like his way of thinking.)

His writings on black metal are outright garbage but maybe check them out if you're interested.


 No.1497

File: 08d248ee269d171⋯.jpg (59.05 KB, 500x495, 100:99, 08d248ee269d1718e15ef9ec42….jpg)

It's ok to be white


 No.1498

File: aa9248cc31d8558⋯.png (1.87 MB, 700x700, 1:1, 1517935124584.png)

wish i had friends


 No.1520

>>1498

Maybe youre being too shit at keeping them?


 No.1536

File: 71e194c7fa0ee0a⋯.jpg (346.52 KB, 2048x1764, 512:441, DhrtZIeVAAE-Cx6.jpg)

>>1486

Thank you informative anon.


 No.1539

>>1520

Well thank you captain obvious.


 No.1547

File: 5ab52d22e4ddab0⋯.jpg (82.41 KB, 1080x1080, 1:1, 13627964_1388917557791379_….jpg)

Are armpits the most literary fetish?


 No.1548

>>1156

romance novels, tumblr blogs, travel reviews, and fitness/diet worksheets.

some "read" scifi, but its mostly YA shit with heroines searching for love and "adventure", or stuff like murder mysteries.

Most women really don't read much, in my experience. Estrogen eats away at your independence pretty hard post puberty.


 No.1558

>>1547

Once you go bagpipes you never go back.


 No.1579

File: 80a05fcdac01a16⋯.jpg (52.01 KB, 472x367, 472:367, E3450231-2517-450C-B6BB-E1….jpg)

>I set out deliberately to write a Tour-de-Force.


 No.1581

File: fb715a61b16f4be⋯.jpg (172.52 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, 2010-fall-blog-pictures-04….jpg)

Reading this and enjoying it to the extreme. Great prose, scenery and subject.


 No.1582

File: fdf382eaf28433b⋯.png (19.79 KB, 225x225, 1:1, 1523916568578.png)

>cute bookstore cashier talked to me while she was packing my purchases

Later virgins


 No.1584

File: b26f99337fd8710⋯.jpg (45.17 KB, 736x890, 368:445, 0_d7535_2438b57f_XXL.jpg)

>>1582

fuck you.

I hope your bookstore cutie is a rabid feminist and cucks you


 No.1587

>>1582

Did you fuck her yet? DO IT FAGGOT

>>1166

I will. Eventually.


 No.1588

File: 7c8aeda5f63a347⋯.png (574.11 KB, 586x891, 586:891, to the book store.png)

>tfw you know you're going to be too poor to buy books for the next few months so you have to read your fuckling backlog instead


 No.1590

File: 8d20d13072068c6⋯.jpg (57.78 KB, 864x576, 3:2, 94d8bb4170b9776920a9f87e9b….jpg)

>>1133

Is he a mega-autist?

>"This is a brief summary of my thoughts regarding the discussion on mathematics in Alex Galloway's paper as well as some of the recent instigations against mathematics by the likes of Laruelle. Needless to say, I'm all for a speculative realist-bashing festivity but in a climate where vague approximations and arguments by way of juxtaposition are not rules of the game. And of course this is just a facebook comment: My first problem with this paper is that it keeps conflating algorithmic structures / computer science with mathematics despite making clear that the latter is a 'part' of mathematics. First there is an asymmetry between mathematics and computational science. This asymmetry is not in terms of size but is in terms of foundations, structures and trajectories. Overextending the critique of computational science and algorithmic domain into a critique of mathematics – by being so oblivious to this asymmetry – is metaphysically inflated at best and parochially misinformed at worst. The asymmetry between mathematics and computational science lies in the what defines the trajectory of the former versus the latter. Mathematics is 'construction principles' (gestural combinatorics, geometry, abductive inference, modalization, concept-mobilities, invariance preservation and transformation, manipulative hypothesization, etc.) plus 'proof principles' (logics, axiomatics, formalism). Constructions are responsible for generativity of mathematics and proofs responsible for its effectivity. Now the global landscape of mathematics is demarcated by the combination of both constructions and proofs (two very different domains) while its overall trajectory is defined by the excess of construction over proof, generativity over effectivity.

>Computational science with its algorithmic approach, on the other hand, is a systematically finitized math where construction principles of mathematics are completely controlled in favor of *certain modes* of proof principles. In other words, the horizon of computational science is delimited by proof principles (algorithms are simply systems for operationalization of certain proof principles), and its trajectory is defined by the strict finitization of construction principles, that is to say, by limiting the generativity of mathematics. For this reason, computer science exhibits a unidirectional shift from mathematical generativity to mathematical effectivity. Digital machines and computational algorithms fully reflect this shift to effectivity by means of a very tight control over construction principles (geometry in particular). Therefore, the implicit goal of these machines is to be effective (i.e. operationalizing the effectivity of certain mathematical proof principles). The asymmetry between mathematics and computer science (algorithms, etc.) is both a matter of the constitution of the domain (construction and proof versus operationalized proof) and a matter of the trajectory of the horizon (if it is driven by the excess of generativity over effectivity or if it is driven by pure effectivity by way of restricting the generativity).

>This asymmetry is unilateral, one can go from the generic domain of mathematics toward computation in various directions, but you cannot reflect on mathematics through computational science, there is no logical, epistemological or ontological map that allows such a move. So to say that “Simply put, software is math.” and then ameliorating it by adding “Computer science is a division of mathematics.” is like reminding yourself that you don't have a foot but going on to shoot yourself in the foot anyway. Software is NOT mathematics, it is an operationalized product of a particular dimension of mathematics (namely, proof principles) that neither synthesizes the entirety of the landscape of mathematics nor defines its global trajectory. To castigate and ahistoricize mathematics and its ambitions by way of such conflation is precisely in line with the ideological core of today's monopoly of computation and by extension, its exploitation by global capitalism (transforming the effectivity of the program to its own programmatic efficacy): They both coincide in degrading mathematics to a program of pure effectivity, one by virtue of its programs whose goals entail damming the unreasonable trajectory of reason (best manifested in the unreasonable generativity of mathematics which is always in excess over its reasonable effectivity), the other by by virtue of a potentially ideologizable and dangerous conflation that obscures the global landscape and the overall trajectory of mathematics. More or less with the same degree but by taking different paths, both contribute to the status quo of the cult of capital."


 No.1591

>>1590

>"It is perhaps helpful here to point out that Badiou's mathematics and Meillassoux's mathematics – two seemingly similar but principally different takes on mathematics – are merely functional and topographic fractions of the domain of mathematics. Mathematics is neither set theory nor solely a systemic discourse shaped around the empty sign (Meillassoux) even though the latter astonishingly unbinds a very broad scope of mathematics in which the generative mechanisms of mathematics – contingency and continuity – find their true expressions (cf. Peirce). Note that Meillassoux however in his recent paper on iteration and the free sign restricts the operation of the free and empty sign to contingency alone which again results in an entirely new set of shortcomings for outlining the landscape of mathematics and its true capabilities. As a discipline endowed with maximal conceptual stability in which both universal adjoints of conception – the conditioning of the concept by the real and the oblique and asymptotic traction of the concept on the real – are present, mathematics is the constitutive gesture of knowledge, a realm through which thought non-classically stabilizes itself. Insofar as mathematics is the constitutive 'gesture' of knowledge (yet not the totality of knowledge) and by the virtue of the primacy of knowledge over any imperative, mathematics cannot and should not be, by any means, ejected from the global structure of thought or praxis on any level. Also, from a different perspective, the unreasonable generativity of mathematics sublimated in various modes of geometrical inference where normativity does not essentially repeat the initial and boundary conditions of reason (i.e. being reasonable) is one of the most promising trajectories for programming the next paradigm of machines whereby the efficacy of capitalism (effective only insofar as it is narrow in scope) is supplanted by the improvisational competence or effectivity of geometric metis, a different trajectory of reason ultimately inassimilable for the programmatic kernel of capitalism.

>However, in complete accord with Alex, we should not forget that there is always a temptation to turn mathematics into the calculus of dogmatism and imperial education of thought and philosophers. It is against these pigeonholed biases that people like Zalamea, Longo and Lawvere should be enthusiastically read and embraced."


 No.1592

>>1591

>"Now on to Laruelle: I feel that resurgence of some of these currents against mathematics is strongly influenced by Laruelle's general attitude toward mathematics, itself a pure overreaction to an admittedly restricted and partially biased philosophies of mathematics saturated by an overzealous Platonist interpretation of mathematics, rather than mathematics as a universal and irreconcilable tension space between Plato and Aristotle. This has pushed Laruelle to embrace a so-called alternative to the alleged dominion of mathematics: physics instead of mathematics. I will go into details in another post about all this but suffice to say that the prioritization of math over physics or vice versa reminds me of math and physics freshmen who cluelessly rant about the priority of their respected disciplines (Mine is the first science yours is shit!). There is an absolute and insurmountable entanglement between mathematics and physics (whether quantum or relativity) from the perspective of mathematical constructions. This is the complete imbrication of physics and mathematics on the level of mathematical structures. There is no physics without mathematics. The latter allows for the articulation of the intelligibility for the former. This is exactly the perspective of modern physics following physicists like Einstein, Schrodinger and Weyl: physics – both quantum and relativity – is “geometry in action” (Boi). It is because geometry (where the role of regularities of space and time in mathematics surpasses that of logics and formalism) is but construction principles and mathematical structures (products parametrized by invariances of spacetime) and as I said, modern physics is at the base, the domain of mathematical structures (geometry of affines, metrics and connections) and their operativity. The separation between math and physics takes place on the level of their respective proof principles: logics and formalistic calculi for mathematics and experience and observation for physics. But even on this level, one should be extremely cautious of the subtle micro-entanglements between physics and mathematics. Physics without math is merely a philosophical or folk theoretical myth. Likewise, mathematics abstracted and purified from physics is a cheap joke told over and over again at the expense of Plato. The gestural origins of mathematics highlights precisely the intrusion of physics into mathematics into physics into mathematics … all in an entangled disequilibrium that at each instance generates a more ample space of navigation for the propulsion of theoretical reason. The importance of Chatelet (following Oresme, Descartes, Newton and Maxwell) lies in the very fact that he performs a full-scale mythoclastic operation against the fiction of math purified from physics in his treatise 'The Stake of the Mobile'."


 No.1595

File: 271d75016b4b174⋯.jpg (1.09 MB, 1885x2560, 377:512, Museo_del_Prado_-_Goya_-_C….jpg)

What is some Francisco de Goya-inspired lit?

>>1120


 No.1597

how do i stop hating myself


 No.1599

>>1597

just 🐝 yourself


 No.1603

File: 164aa756d341fe9⋯.jpg (320.94 KB, 960x1200, 4:5, DiQNKRmXcAAKS6n.jpg)

>>1597

you hate 'yourself' because you refuse to become the full realization of the dreams of your forefathers. Build your body soul and mind each day and slowly you will find the hate withers away along with the husk of a man you once were. seek hate and you shall hate. seek to be and you shall be. seek greatness and you will find it so. there is no now; only the prescriptive past and the potential future. You must ask within your own soul: what shall my future be?


 No.1604

File: bc4f44fd7f22805⋯.jpg (74.14 KB, 640x1582, 320:791, 35477413_181813769150961_3….jpg)

>>1588

10/10 can relate fam


 No.1608

>7 active IPs

>post quality somehow even lower than /lit/s

dead board lmfao


 No.1622

>>1608

Pls no i like you guise


 No.1625

>>1166

Took me a few years but here you are

"

Erst

Cultivate your madness. The first thing there is to know is that normalcy is undesirable; one's got to escape from normalcy, avoid it by any means, sacrifice whatever is necessary. First, no one is truly normal. Everybody has this mask they so carefully polish… and you can see them: pulchre, delightful, they are so normal and besides they're so happy, they're doing everything so well and besides they're doing wonderfully, everything is so beautiful and perfect… and you, with your problems. When night falls, night falls, and you are forced to stare back at their faces, you're lying in bed and it's time for you to fall asleep, but you have to stare back at your demons, because no one knows them as well as you do; nobody like you knows what's inside of you and what you have to deal with […]"

Well that's shittier than I remember.

Everybody post shit you've written so we can destroy it


 No.1645

posting in an epic thread




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