No.12870
What is the optimum loli age, anon?
No.12872
12
No.12873
No.12874
5
No.12877
8-12 probably
No.12878
4-7, possibly older if it's something like one of Rustle's lolis.
No.12879
The age at which they're as mature as possible while not having started physically developing exterior sexual characteristics, i.e. breasts, hips and pubic hair. In anime at least, that age seems to be 10.
No.12881
100+
No.12884
>age
All loli is optimum regardless of age, whether she's 5 or 500.
No.12888
>>12884This. Age doesn't matter, only love.
No.12889
>>12888>>12884get a load of these weabs
No.12890
No.12897
File: 1421961991779.png (Spoiler Image, 499.33 KB, 1240x605, 248:121, sliding scale of loli.png)
Sliding scale of loli for reference (Spoilered because the left side is toddlers, though non-sexual)
For lewd stuff, my tastes are slightly titty-monster compared to some of you good folks, maybe. I like that sweet spot around puberty. 11-13 is my ideal range, in the "age of exploration". 9-10 can still be good.
For love, disregard age, cuteness is the only metric.
No.12904
for me personally, 0-5
No.12906
>>12904That's more toddler range.
No.12908
>>12906Not approving of toddlercon makes you an unamerican freedom-hater
No.12909
>>12908Never said that, I do like toeddlercon. Was just saying.
No.12910
>>12909>I do like toeddlercon if that's the case, you're a true patriot
No.12911
>>12909God bless, anon.
Every civilized, free man, woman and child deserves the right to masturbate to drawings of naked 3-year-olds.
No.12914
Biological age: 5-12
Mental age: Old enough to understand and consent to BDSM
No.12915
>>12914I'm in my 20's and even I don't understand BDSM
No.12917
>>12915You understand what the word means. Whether you enjoy it or not is a matter of taste. Nobody really understands why people are into it.
Also, I didn't mean to imply that there was a specific age when it suddenly clicked. Every biological mind is different.
No.12921
>>12917I totally understand and consent to bdsm
and my mental age is 12. Just lacking on the biological age department No.12936
>>12904>>12908>>12909>>12910>>12911It warms my heart to know I'm not the only one in this thread who loves toddlercon. I feel like a true patriot now fapping for freedom. :D
No.12946
>>12936How can something be so insanely cute and sexy at the same time?
No.12947
>>12921Well, I don't get it, but if it makes my little princess happy I'd gladly do it~
No.12956
>>12921>Just lacking on the biological age departmentGive it time. Our technology will be able to amend that eventually.
No.12959
>>12897Well according to this, 5-10 are my favorite.
No.12999
9-12 is the only choice. Sometimes, very rarely, a 13 year old will be fine too.
No.13001
>>12946I guess I could say it's like some sort of magic you don't understand, but you know it's there and in this case it's pretty damn awesome.
No.13014
>>13001Magic does seem like the right word.
No.13031
>>13001While I don't like toddlercon, it makes me happy that there are people out there that do.
No.13065
No.13222
>>12897looking at that chart i seem to like 9-15 most what does that mean?
No.13224
No.13232
>>13224I'm a fan of your fapping interests anon.
No.13241
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>>12897Here's the nude version of this by the artist for those who want it.
No.13311
>>12897I choose 5-13, because I want some tiny breasts to grab too.
No.13373
>>13311Good choice, anon. Flat may be justice, but there is always room for bewbies.
No.13381
8-12 for me as well.
No.13413
>>12936'Murrica.
Thugh I'm not really American but fuck it, FREEDOM!!!
No.13432
3-12 is my strike zone
No.13466
>>13241I think 7+ is good for me. If I had to pick one, though, I'd go with 12.
No.13524
>>12870Age is irrelevant to drawings, shill harder FBI
No.14345
>>12897Dat FUCKING 6 year old.
No.16274
>>12889get a load of this pleb kek weab
No.16275
>>12884>>12888exactly, age is irrelevant, for me its the body shape, the youth, what about vampire lolis, who stay in the same body but are now legal age, what then huh, wheres your arguement for that the fact that loli is illegal in the first place is an attack on human rights, and freedom of art/speech, its purely baseless bigoted and oppresive
No.16303
No.17219
As soon as the loli can get impregnated.
No.17225
14/13
No.17231
old enough to be smug
No.17239
>>17231That's every age, good taste. Smug loli is better than Viagra.
No.17262
9-11, but different children have more certain and short period of age. You know, when you can see a little woman that still remains a cute innocent child. That is one beautiful little moment, and it's so unfairly hard to contemplate and easy to miss.
No.17263
8-14
No.17265
Interesting. This is actually is nice research between lolicons.
No.17266
12+
No.17333
>>17225Which is legal in my country
but too frowned upon to even try ;_; No.17335
5 - 7
No.17358
12-14
No.17369
6-12
No.17370
looking at the chart, for me its 0-12
higher if there are glasses
No.17371
>>13031why is this anon?
just curious
No.17379
11.2 ± 2.2
No.17390
Okay, time to get certain.
>optimal
Optimal for *what*? If I think that way, then 5-9 is totally huggable, 9-11 is huggable and enjoyable in a sexy way, after 12 is kinda sexy but not as cute. And it gets worse as she grows.
No.17398
42
No.17626
>>12870Trick question.
**Hundreds
No.17635
No.17641
>>17635It's not a doujin sadly.
No.18053
>>17371I think it's kind of beautiful that people are attracted to all sorts of things. Kinda faggy, but whatever.
No.18054
>>17262Hinami is so cute. Especially while having dinner.
No.18105
>>18104That purple haired one has my dicks approval.
No.18111
>>18105What about her do you like?
I'm assuming the body type but is there more?
No.18112
>>18111Well purple and silver hair are god tier and so are bloomers.
No.18113
>>18112I agree about the bloomers, but I'm curious about why the hair colors seem so great to you. Is it because they are rare?
No.18115
>>18113Probably, can't explain it.
No.18202
Now I wish to introduce the following idea. Between the age limits of
nine and fourteen there occur maidens who, to certain bewitched travelers,
twice or many times older than they, reveal their true nature which is not
human, but nymphic (that is, demoniac); and these chosen creatures I propose
to designate as "nymphets."
It will be marked that I substitute time terms for spatial ones. In
fact, I would have the reader see "nine" and "fourteen" as the
boundaries–the mirrory beaches and rosy rocks–of an enchanted island
haunted by those nymphets of mine and surrounded by a vast, misty sea.
Between those age limits, are all girl-children nymphets? Of course not.
Otherwise, we who are in the know, we lone voyagers, we nympholepts, would
have long gone insane. Neither are good looks any criterion; and vulgarity,
or at least what a given community terms so, does not necessarily impair
certain mysterious characteristics, the fey grace, the elusive, shifty,
soul-shattering, insidious charm that separates the nymphet from such
coevals of hers as are incomparably more dependent on the spatial world of
synchronous phenomena than on that intangible island of entranced time where
Lolita plays with her likes. Within the same age limits the number of true
nymphets is trickingly inferior to that of provisionally plain, or just
nice, or "cute," or even "sweet" and "attractive," ordinary, plumpish,
formless, cold-skinned, essentially human little girls, with tummies and
pigtails, who may or may not turn into adults of great beauty (look at the
ugly dumplings in black stockings and white hats that are metamorphosed into
stunning stars of the screen). A normal man given a group photograph of
school girls or Girl Scouts and asked to point out the comeliest one will
not necessarily choose the nymphet among them. You have to be an artist and
a madman, a creature of infinite melancholy, with a bubble of hot poison in
your loins and a super-voluptuous flame permanently aglow in your subtle
spine (oh, how you have to cringe and hide!), in order to discern at once,
by ineffable signs–the slightly feline outline of a cheekbone, the
slenderness of a downy limb, and other indices which despair and shame and
tears of tenderness forbid me to tabulate–the little deadly demon among the
wholesome children; she stands unrecognized by them and unconscious
herself of her fantastic power.
Furthermore, since the idea of time plays such a magic part in the
matter, the student should not be surprised to learn that there must be a
gap of several years, never less than ten I should say, generally thirty or
forty, and as many as ninety in a few known cases, between maiden and man to
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enable the latter to come under a nymphet's spell. It is a question of focal
adjustment, of a certain distance that the inner eye thrills to surmount,
and a certain contrast that the mind perceives with a gasp of perverse
delight. When I was a child and she was a child, my little Annabel was no
nymphet to me; I was her equal, a faunlet in my own right, on that same
enchanted island of time; but today, in September 1952, after twenty-nine
years have elapsed, I think I can distinguish in her the initial fateful elf
in my life. We loved each other with a premature love, marked by a
fierceness that so often destroys adult lives. I was a strong lad and
survived; but the poison was in the wound, and the wound remained ever open,
and soon I found myself maturing amid a civilization which allows a man of
twenty-five to court a girl of sixteen but not a girl of twelve.
No.20488
>>18104
Good taste anon. :)
No.28230
>>18202
Nice. Very nice. Glad to see some literary influence. I could tell you that I have that whole chapter memorized (not just the bit posted there), and can recite the entire fifteen minute monologue from memory at any point with no preparation whatsoever. Because of… reasons.
But of course, I couldn't possibly confirm that. Because… other reasons.
No.28241
>and soon I found myself maturing amid a civilization which allows a man of
twenty-five to court a girl of sixteen but not a girl of twelve.
Post late 1800s feminism then.
No.28278
I think it's more about body shape and how the artist is at it. Personality is also something to consider, depending on your mood. Going by the chart, my sweet spot is 6-11.
I'm not super into toddlercon, but then some magnificent artist depicts them in such a cute yet very alluring way, the way they hold onto a dick with their tiny hands and lick the tip, not really knowing what's going on, goddamn it is hot.
There may also be times where I want to see the innocent, pure girl getting defiled. The charming, demure schoolgirl with her big red backpack, being taken by some guy with promises of candy or fun times, as she now has to obey the man while she gives him a handjob, or allows getting foreign objects being put in her love hole or butthole.
The playful girl who's down to explore and experience sex is also great. Innocent, but eager; she finds it painful but also enjoys it. She'll happily give him a blowjob because she enjoys it and loves seeing her couple's face.
Prostitution can also be done well depending on the artist. The experienced loli will take advantage of her sex drive and appeal, and be down for anything if they're willing to pay; or the innocent schoolgirl will now have to perform these jobs to pay a debt.
Clothing and costumes play a big part. Personally, I don't like fully nude porn, that includes stuff aside from loli. Even if it's just a choker and thighhighs, that makes a better image.
The cheery idol getting spitroasting by her manager and some other guy, or sitting in a couch giving a handjob to her manager; the tomboyish girl in a bikini that wants to have fun times with someone, the fashionable girl wearing some denim shorts, a tube top and a fluffy hairdo, that kind of stuff is great.
No.29063
>>12897
I seem to be the only one who doesn't like the younger lolis
12-17 for me
No.29338
a few thousand years
give a take a hundred
No.29341
To give an age suggest it is just simulated child porn. I don't care the age just the look. I'm not a pedophile (real children gross me out)so age means nothing. Plus I like elves/creatures so their age could be anything.
No.29356
>>29063
All depends on body type, the ages you listed if they have normal body types for their age most past 13-14 won't be loli.
No.29360
Age in anime/manga barely makes any sense. Not to forget the thousand years old semen demons.
Another artist draws really young looking lolis that are actually 15, and another one draws 10 year olds that look like 15.
And that isn't even about the body type thing, it is just how some artist draw stuff, which itself make the whole age thing irrelevant without saying "loli is just a body type".
No.29389
No.29404
100+, though the exact age doesn't particularly matter as long as the following conditions are met:
Ideally, they'd be fairly intelligent and able to understand the implications and possible consequences of what they are doing, while retaining some of a typical loli's innocence. Sion from Eden* would be my ideal loli.
No.29410
Hi, retired loli signing in here. I'm 18 now, very sadly, but let me tell you my experiences with trying to be a loli.
I was sort of a weird kind, I started going on 2ch and 4ch around the time I was 9. By then, I was watching/reading more porn than the average teenage boy.
One significant memory is when I was 7, I wore the lewdest outfit I had as an ugly little kid and stood in a unisex bathroom in a nice mall for like 30 mins, waiting for a cute pedophile to come take advantage of me. But what actually happened was some old lady walked in and scolded me, so I ran away. Then I got really depressed because I thought pedophiles didn't exist and were just a ruse told by adults to make ugly kids like me lonely.
But I didn't give up without further testing, I started rigorously hitting on people on online games within steam and 4chan. I would ask if they were white, older than 21, how tall, etc. I didn't have much luck because the majority of people I tried to hit on were not into underage, or just thought I was thirsty and not the sort of female they would want. That made me really sad. And even the ones that were friendly enough to see what my face looks like, they thought I was ugly and too boyish.
I was really sad and got jealous of attractive lolis that got raped or whatnot.
But then when I was 14, I got a job. It was a shitty 8 dollar an hour job and I worked 30 hours a week, along with high school. This is when I finally found a cute pedo that liked me. He admitted that he likes boyish, ugly, and desperate lolis. I bought him lots of in-game stuff in exchange for dick pics of boxers for me to sniff. I would take him out to nice dinners in exchange for sex. Sometimes he would hold my hand for free. I always felt really bad about this because I have rough hands.
So what I have found:
Being an ugly loli won't get you any pedos but cash will B)
No.29416
No.29426
Drawings don't have an age. I don't like toddlercon if that's what you mean.
No.29427
>>29426
Characters have ages.
No.29432
>>29404
>"adult" loli
>on the bridge of the Enterprise
You got a sauce on that?
No.29434
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>>29410
I'd really like to find more put loli doujins. "Ugly", but cute. You know, small irises, scruffy hair and shit, like a certain Noise doujin.
No.29435
>>29427
"Some characters" have implied ages… but they are not actually 8 or 11 or 28… because those are human years of genetic development, and the artwork is not that old.
But I get your thinking… They state some characters ages. However, they are not an age, because an age is a fact, and fiction is fiction, devoid of fact, no matter how similar or poorly it is represented.
No.29436
>>29427
Saying a loli is a 1000 year-old vampire, stuck in a horribly and inaccurately drawn 8-year-old implied, toon-body, does not make "it" 1000 or 8 or even a "girl"… It is nothing more than an illusion, by suggestion, which you either accept as being reasonable or unreasonable, but it is always fiction/fantasy/implied, not factual in any way.
No.29437
>>12870
Optimum to draw, look at, jerk-off to, admire, cuddle with, or to dream about?
Optimum for whiteness is within about 1-2 years… after that, the acid in the paper begins to yellow and the inks fade…
No.29438
>>29437
Digital is good for 4000-years plus… Unless we get solar flares or random singularities that wipe-out our data… or our hard-drives corrode… Actually that happens in about five years now… They start to lose magnitism as the surface spiders from impurities in the manufacturing process… and SSD's seem to "turn off" after about two years, erasing data, randomly… Which leaves us back to yellowing paper and fading inks.
No.29445
>>29434
The world needs more anons like you.
No.29460
>>29445
Just look at her, she's adorable. Plus, the "I'm ugly, how can you like me?" schtick fits better here, instead of the pretty loli who only has messy hair or swirly eyeglasses and call it a day, saying she's ugly.
No.29463
>>29460
She's unkempt not ugly. These get mixed up alot.
No.29466
>>29432
The visual novel My Girlfriend is the President.
No.29470
>>29463
That's why I said "ugly". Yeah, unkempt fits more, but I still like calling them " ugly", I relate unkempt more with the girl with swirly glasses and those fat twin braids, but that still has large irises. Girls with small irises and/or sharp eyes are seen as ugly, intimidating or street punks.
No.29471
>>29470
The swirly glasses girls are just nerds/geeks not unkempt. Unless its added that they have poor hygiene/dirty clothes.
No.29492
>>29436
Most child characters are outright stated to be children and don't pull of weird scifi/fantasy crap like vampires.
No.29551
>>29460
First of all, I'd like a sauce (she's fucking adorable). Secondly, no older than 12.
No.34976
An eighteen year old that somehow looks twelve. Pic related.
No.34989
>>17641
Still, sauce? It looks cute as heck
No.34993
>>34976
There is such a thing. Extremely rare though, there are cases of people having pituitary tumors which cause them to for ever look around the age of 12.
>>34989
http://mangafox.me/manga/masamune_kun_no_revenge/v01/c001/10.html
No.35001
I'd say from 10 through 13.
No.35002
>>35001
this is a Gundam Wing parody isnt it?
No.35003
>>35002
Not sure. I've only have 3 cels of this artists' work of this girl. Wish I had more,
No.35009
>>12897
>>13241
going by this scale, I'd say my peak is 8-11
overall, 6-12 is really good, but I'm fine with cute looking adults too, softer curves, no cow tits, big eyes and whatnot.
I can fap to younger, but no matter what, I like a subtle hour glass figure, just a pinch at the waist, supple, slightly plump thighs, and a gentle swelling of the breasts. All that makes even some of the lower ages super enticing for me.
I think more than age, I like innocence and intimacy. I'd rather see a pic of a girl touching herself in her bed for the first time, with most of her clothes on than mindlessly engaging in some wild fetish (many of which I do have).
No.35073
No.35074
I go by the simple maxim "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed."
No.35075
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No.35636
>>12870
It's imaginary, so she can be 3,000 years old; it does not matter.
No.35645
Varies from person to person
No.35840
>>29460
Damn where did you find an english translation of chapter 5?
No.36311
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I'd probably say my optimal age rage would be somewhere from 8-12, and then 13-15 and then 4-7. Though it really comes down to how well the art is done, I'm a sucker for good art.
No.36340
>>35636
This, it's about body type
No.36371
>>35636
>>36340
the question of age implies the body type she has you fuckheads
HOW OLD SHE LOOKS is the question, not whether shes a 1000 year old vampire in a 10 year old girls body
No.36375
I can do 0 to 12 easily but i think the middle ground (6) is the best for me.
However each one has it's own unique appeal to me.