/loli/ - Lolis

The "I'm dreaming of angels… [etc]" line.

I'm currently reading it, but it's a slow progress (Mommy just got car'd). Having trouble with the writing style, I have to focus more the usually when reading.

>>28276

Nabokov's prose makes me wet. It took me 6 months to finish 2/3s of the book because it would take me an hour to read 5 or so pages, mostly because I would keel over laughing, often times falling out of my chair, because of how hilariously eloquent Humphrey is when talking about how much he wants to drool all over his little Lo.

Another favorite quote is, "Sometimes . . . Come on, how often exactly, Bert? Can you recall four,

five, more such occasions? Or would no human heart have survived two or

three? Sometimes (I have nothing to say in reply to your question), while

Lolita would be haphazardly preparing her homework, sucking a pencil,

lolling sideways in an easy chair with both legs over its arm, I would shed

all my pedagogic restraint, dismiss all our quarrels, forget all my

masculine pride–and literally crawl on my knees to your chair, my Lolita!

You would give me one look–a gray furry question mark of a look: "Oh no,

not again" (incredulity, exasperation); for you never deigned to believe

that I could, without any specific designs, ever crave to bury my face in

your plaid skirt, my darling! The fragility of those bare arms of yours–how

I longed to enfold them, all your four limpid lovely limbs, a folded colt,

and take your head between my unworthy hands, and pull the temple-skin back

on both sides, and kiss your chinesed eyes, and–"Pulease, leave me alone,

will you," you would say, "for Christ's sake leave me alone." And I would

get up from the floor while you looked on, your face deliberately twitching

in imitation of my tic nerveux. But never mind, never mind, I am only

a brute, never mind, let us go on with my miserable story."

>>28289

It's especially fascinating since English wasn't his native language.

>>28311

I swear that man knew something about comedy that no one recognizes. Either that, or I'm a sick fuck… Well, since I'm on this board it's probably the latter, but it still says something about him. There's also the fact that he managed to make me laugh harder than any book or movie or even comedian, then when I reached the last third of the book he made me depressed for a whole week. "She groped for words. I supplied them mentally ("He broke my

heart. You merely broke my life")."

Another favorite quote, "And so we rolled East, I more devastated than braced with the

satisfaction of my passion, and she glowing with health, her bi-iliac

garland still as brief as a lad's, although she had added two inches to her

stature and eight pounds to her weight. We had been everywhere. We had

really seen nothing. And I catch myself thinking that our long journey had

only defiled with a sinuous trail of slime the lovely, trustful, dreamy,

enormous country that by then, in retrospect, was no more to us than a

collection of dog-eared maps, ruined tour books, old tires, and her sobs in

the night–every night, every night–the moment I feigned sleep."

>>28259

>Lastly, when will you scrubs start using the proper term for a loli, "nymphet?"

nymphet is an adolecent with a high libido, where loli is just a body type/ a kind of hentai ?

Also, Ignoring people that like short, small boobied anime girls. people who are lolicons are ether closet pedophiles who, for obvious reasons can't tell people about being such (see: all the websites that no longer have loli content ) so they call it loli instead of nympets to hide. That or they're moral fags who believe sex with kids is rape and don't want to come to terms with themselves and that myth, so they pretend like they aren't fapping to cartoon children by calling it loli.

>How many of you have read the book of your people

I've read it ages ago and it really is a must read for any pedophile/hebephile but I don't think it would be for a lolicon since they aren't looking to bang 12 year olds ?

I don't remember words from it just moments. Delores was pretty banging .. actually now that I think about it the story got pretty boring at the begining of part two and made me think too much about how my own relationships went down hill so I stopped reading :(

>>28528

>That or they're moral fags who believe sex with kids is rape and don't want to come to terms with themselves and that myth.

Yeah, I have heard that, or similar excuses from a shota-con moral fag and I always insist that shota is basically loli with dicks. That said, I don't think that justification is entirely horrible, since it probably isn't super easy to come to terms with ones own pedophilia.

Yeah, for me it was the last 3rd of the story, right after Delores escaped. I finished the rest of the book in about 4 hours and barely paid attention. It was kind of fun watching Humphrey fall into madness.

Ooooooh boy. I read this book when I was 12, and it has been my favorite literature ever since. It just resonates so well with me.

My favorite quote is from the part where Humbert describes what exactly a nymphet is. It went something along the idea of the prettiest girl is not necessarily a nymphet, a nymphet is defined by a deeper, more seductive knowledge in a child. Really comforted ugly me at night because I was more confident that I wouldn't die a virgin.

for the sake of it though, Humbert is a fucking normalfag and Dolores is a pretty basic bitch.

>>31218

>Humbert is a fucking normalfag

This fucker went on a country wide loli fuck-tour, was initially willing to drug-rape her, and ends up murdering another pedo for stealing his fuck-daughter. He is one of the least moral fag characters I've seen without being an outright psychopath or sociopath.

But, yeah, Lo is kinda basic…

>>31765

Best review of Lolita I've seen. It was a tragedy most of us would never read/watch or enjoy in any way. Innocence or the average webm or YT vid is much better.

>>31769

>It was a tragedy most of us would never read/watch or enjoy in any way.

Do you mean that most Loli-cons haven't/won't read Lolita? Sorry, I don't really understand what you mean.

>>31765

AND don't forget that he almost killed his daugther's husband for impregnating her.

>>32006

iirc, he says that he, "pulls his gun out and walks back in from the car and kills the both them" or something, then remarks about how that's what the reader would assume, oh Humbert, meta as always.

All I remember is Humbert remarking about how he wanted to squeeze the blackheads on the kids nose. The husband was only like 18 or 19.

I could have forgotten since I read the last third of the book in one go and sped read since I was super depressed after Lo left.

>>31765

I started reading Lolita just because of this post.

I'm roughly at the middle, where they are traveling. This part takes forever, damn.

I stopped at this very same quote:

>>28355

>"We had really seen nothing. And I catch myself thinking that our long journey had

only defiled with a sinuous trail of slime the lovely, trustful, dreamy,

enormous country that by then, in retrospect, was no more to us than a

collection of dog-eared maps, ruined tour books, old tires, and her sobs in

the night–every night, every night–the moment I feigned sleep."

>>32060

And why's she sobbing anyway? She's the one who wanted to fuck.

>>32088

God you just made me remember, not much of a spoiler,

"It was characteristic of Lo that she chose for her closest chum that elegant, cold, lascivious, experienced young female whom I once heard (misheard, Lo swore) cheerfully say in the hallway to Lo–who had remarked that her (Lo's) sweater was of virgin wool: "The only thing about you that is, kiddo . . .""

God I need to read it again, but I think the ending you crush me even harder this time. I'm literally chortling right now.

>>32060

Tis a great quote indeed, took me at least 20 times to read the whole thing without dying of laughter after saying, "…sinuous trail of slime"

>>31804

I tried reading the book years ago but gave up after about 20 pages and just watched the movies. The original by Kubrick was OK and the remake with D Swain had it moments, but the important thing is that it's a tragic story, really depressing especially for moe/otaku who are already feeling down. Anyone who really wants to read it obviously could, I just think there are far greater love stories and celebrations of girls to be found.

Where would one buy this book without being put on some sort of list?

>>32149

Pretty sure the book is public domain, so free pdfs abound. Also, it's the most legit of classical literature. I had a conversation with my college English teacher (she read it too) about how fucking swag Nabokov is and espousing my love for the book, not a single sign of weirdness and I'm not autistic or anything. I've also talked with many other non-lolicons and normal fags about the book and people are usually interested in it, since I always harp on about the juxtaposition between Nabokov's fucking sexiliscious, eloquent prose and the subject material. My teacher helped me find the definition for the word 'coranting', which Nabokov basically invented (I think it's hybrid French), means dancing.

This book is legit, I'd even borrow it from a library if I needed to. I can't stress enough how not weird reading this book is, as long as you pretend to be horrified at Humphrey Humbert. Just start by saying, "I know it's fucked up, but that's why it's genius" and no one will know you found out about the book on /loli/.

It's practically a normal fag book.

>>32115

You sooo missed out on the entire point of the book. Lolita is so fucking funny if you really get into the prose. The quotes above made me laugh so hard I would literally fall out of my chair laughing and I could only get through a couple of pages at a time which made me take 6 months to read the whole thing. I also hated the sad part, but it only really gets sad at the end when Nabokov's tone shifts. Nabokov is a comedic genius if you have a dark, ironic, lolicon mentality when reading it.

Also, unless the movies (which I have not watched) are narrated the entire time by Humbert, then they lose the best part of the book. I don't honestly think a movie is the proper format for the story, since lolita is a completely hollow character, since all Humbert cares and talks about is her sweet loli ass and never really gets to know her except in a stalkery way. Basically, the only good part about the book is Humbert's eloquence, which would be completely lost in a film.

But yeah, I agree on your last point that it's a bad celebration of girls and a terrible love story, but that's sort of the point really. Nabokov was a moral fag at heart and the story reflects that. That doesn't mean you can enjoy the ride though.

>>32149

In the US if you buy Lolita you'll probably just be put on a mailing list cuz bookstores are hurting and will beg for your business.

>>32171

I remember Captain Beefheart saying nice things about Nabokov and he also had a sort of dark yet child-like aura about him. I watch a ton of movies but rarely read. The last book I really liked was Disappearance Diary by Hideo Azuma which most lolis will love, and not just because he's an OG in lolicon.

Can't find the exact quote, but when H H is seeing various pictures of a "wanted" list, he writes that were they do a movie of the book, they should slowly shift one of the faces into his own. do they do that in the movie? I'll watch it when I'm done reading but I want to know this.

OK, I'm done reading.

My nature makes me unable to understand why Lo says she rather go back to Clare Quilty, than go back to Humbert. He doesn't say much about how he raised her so I tried imagine how I would do it.

I also can't understand why everyone blames him (even himself, at the end). She's the one who started all the fucking, goddamn it. You could say that he could have prevented it, but it's the same as putting a lion and a deer in a cage, and then asking the lion not to eat the deer.

Near the end I was more angry with Humbert than with Lo, dude was a total pussy slave.

>>32261

"He broke my heart. You merely broke my life"

This next bit is me moral fagging like a bitch, but I don't think he really raised her in any meaningful sense, she was what, 11 when he met her? She was there so he could fuck her and watch her. He used bribery to get sex from her and he never tried to make anything meaningful out of it. There is a quote, which I'm too lazy right now to find, during their time at Lo's school when she is talking to Humbert about the "Enchanted Hunter" play that she was going to be in and she refers to the hotel as, 'the place where you raped me' or something similar. She doesn't have a choice really, without him, she doesn't really have anyone to go to. Humbert took her hundreds of miles away from anyone she new and her Mom and any other family was dead. The only thing she could do to get away from him was to get another pedophile to take her from him.

She was never, as far as I could tell, under any sort of Stockholm Syndrome. There was another quote which was Humbert remarking about how he accidentally taught Lo to manipulate men with sex. She never seemed to love him the way that her did her and I think that explains why she would rather go back to Clare Quilty. Quilty was a dick, but he didn't kill(accidentally) Lo's mother, he didn't lie to her and take her away from her home, and he didn't alienate and control her social interactions like Humbert did.

The argument you're putting forth about the "lion and a deer in a cage" is faulty because no one put Lo and Humbert in the Enchanted Hunter. Humbert fucking did! I can't claim to know child psychology all that well and I bet Nabokov didn't either, but Lo's one awkward attempt at feeling some comfort after her mother died caused her to be pursued sexually and fucked nightly for like 3 years.

The reason Humbert was at fault was because he caused the trauma that led to Lo's acting out her sexual frustrations on him.

Moral fagging complete.

Humbert was basically a little bitch about the whole last bit, but then again, by that point, Lo learned how to manipulate him with sex, so…

>>32282

Good job, you just made me even more depressed.

I still think Quilty was a bigger fucker, he promised to make her star in a movie in Hollywood or something, but then first she had to be filmed in a gangbang.

>>32311

Sorry bout that bro, Nabokov couldn't just let us off the hook with some loli laughs. It took me about a week after reading to stop feeling depressed.

Quilty's fuckery was shallow and transparent, Humbert's was deep, consuming, and stealthy. Quilty did go big though, just not sure that being a bigger fucker means that you are a worse fucker, do you know what I mean?