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moved whole convo - further discussion Anonymous 02/06/15 (Fri) 10:31:25 No.222

>>48
I don't believe this is libre? I can't find any license information or even source code. Plus they sell their newest game, and the downloads are primarily from Steam.

>>212
Pretty sure they use a fork of ren-py.

See full license here:
https://github.com/vaendryl/Sunrider

Their other games are full proprietary as far as I can tell. I will update the link provided to reflect that.

Let me know you read this so I can keep the thread clean.

>>214
read it, thanks. oh man, that's some kind of regular CC license, it doesn't even say which one exactly and is hella long. they're not inteded for source code licensing but w/e, I guess it's alright to call it libre because CC is in the same spirit as Free Software.

>>217
I am being pretty dense here but why in the ever loving fuck would he choose that as his license?

He contributes code back to renpy and renpy even lists it on their front page: http://www.renpy.org/

But renpy is MIT and LGPL: http://www.renpy.org/doc/html/license.html

Is he using it as some sort of sub-license? Is this a mistake? Is he actually referring to assets?

His other games appear to use ren-py also, so not just the one. I was just confused by the repo. I will revert the link back to the page.

>>219
lol, the only way to get sunrider academy is steam only. Sorry to be anal but I'm just not going to suggest people install proprietary software just to get the assets.

Sorry for going in circles on this. I am changing the link back, AGAIN, and I just posted a link to his other game, homeward.

Anonymous 02/06/15 (Fri) 10:50:25 No.223

>>222
Because I wanted to discuss this further and the sticky didn't seem appropriate.

Did this guy fuck up with his licensing?

Also what is the opinion on sunrider academy? I would rule against it. Although it does appear to use renpy it's only attainable through steam… where do we draw the line there.
Doom3BFG is on there but can the assets be extracted from the install/DVD? If you have to install it to get the assets does that defeat the purpose?

Not slept in a while guys, so forgive me if I appear a little stupid.

Anonymous 02/07/15 (Sat) 12:25:05 No.224

When I originally posted it they only had Sunrider.

The LICENSE seems to be non-commercial which would make it non-free software though. Maybe we should ask about it on the their forums?

Anonymous 02/07/15 (Sat) 18:45:33 No.225

it doesn't seem like they really care about Free Software at all

Anonymous 02/08/15 (Sun) 09:12:50 No.228

http://ask.fm/SunriderVN/answer/124320423008
;__;

Anonymous 02/08/15 (Sun) 16:15:03 No.229

>>228
That is just confusing.
I am pretty sure it's renpy. I don't think you can not include the MIT and LGPL licenses like that.

His game Homeward states the following clearly on his website: "Homeward is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. Homeward is made with Ren'Py, which has its own license." http://homeward.renai.us/
So if he handled it there what the hell went so wrong here?

What the hell could his code possibly be doing with this audio that would force him to sub-license like this, or more accurately why SHOULD he be sub-licensing?

Anonymous 02/09/15 (Mon) 21:00:39 No.232

>>228
yup that is confusing at best. it seems like incompetence on their side really.