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 No.3985

What was the deal with the royal guard talking to Char in this scene anyways? It feels like it was meant to be foreshadowing something.

 No.3986

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>>3985
Wasn't that when Kyshillia's people picked him up for newtype stuff?

 No.4018

>>3986
Maybe.

Actually another plot thread I don't think was ever explained: what the hell was M'Quve covering up that he was afraid of Ramba Ral finding out about?

 No.4053

>>3986
why kids love cinnamon toast crunch

 No.4425

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After Garma's death, Kycilia has Char investigated and finds out he's really Casval Deikun (she explains this later) and sends her men to look for him. One also whipers to her during the funeral, presumably telling her they found Char.
Shortly after, Char reports to Kycilia and she calls him out on his plan to kill the Zabi family believing she can recruit him with her "a future for all newtypes" line now that he seems to have given up on revenge..

 No.4430

>>4425
Didn't catch the whisper. Now everything makes sense.

The M'Quve/Ramba Ral thing still eludes me though.

 No.4431

>>4430
Wasn't M'Quve using his position to smuggle things like vases and shit off Earth? It's been awhile so I could be mistaken.

 No.4432

>>4431
Or it could've been the nuke he wasn't supposed to have.

 No.4447

>>4431
That would make sense, but I don't recall it being alluded to

>>4432
I'm pretty sure they used "doing" not "have".

I doubt the treaty called for removal of all nuclear devices instead of barring their use.

 No.4451

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>>4430
They were developing the Adzam, mining Solium, and looting treasure.
The salt mines of Odessa are irl a very old ruin which was used by resistance groups in several wars. It was a good place to hide stuff both before and during the Universal Century.
directly loyal to Kycilia and Ramba Ral wasn't. Kycilia had her ownplans for being SPESS QUEEN that probably didn't include Ghiren.
Also M'Quve was

 No.4459

>>4447
Right, but having a banned weapon ready to launch carried on board warships brings things into question.

 No.5162

>>4430
IIRC, I think it was about Ramba Ral wanting Doms, but M'Quve denied him (because they didn't have the resources for it?). So then Ramba Ral had to attack White Base without the Doms.

 No.5164

>>5162
>because they didn't have the resources for it?
Were there even operational Doms by the time Ramba asked for them?

 No.5166

>>5164
Maybe that's it. The Doms weren't ready in time. It was really close, the Doms and Battle of Odessa happens right after Ramba Ral attacks.
I haven't actually tried it, but I think in one of the Ghiren's Greed games if you give Ramba Ral the Doms he curbstomps White Base and Zeon wins the war.

 No.5168

>>5166
>Maybe that's it.
Not exactly, it's still pretty evident that Kycilia shitcunt doesn't like Ramba, same for M'quve.

>if you give Ramba Ral the Doms he curbstomps White Base and Zeon wins the war.

According to the wiki you just capture the WB and all the units contained in it. Also also don't lose aces, so Ramba survives, etc.

 No.5170

>>5168
Ramba Ral was unde Dozle's command, M'quve was under Kycilia. M'quve states in the film version that he's under no obligation to support Ral but he doesn't mind using Ral to remove an obstacle (the Gundam/White Base).
Basically it's just about internal power struggles amongst Degwins kds.



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