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 No.2397[Reply]

Hello, I am the new leader of /marx/.

I will continue the status quo: this board is for those who identify as Marxist-Leninist in some form, whether they uphold or otherwise identify with the Stalin-era USSR, the post-Stalin era, China under Mao, Albania under Hoxha, Cuba, the DPRK or whatever. Non-MLs are allowed to ask questions and the like.

I have a forum with a political forum area for registered users (although the forum itself is for forum games users think up and run.) If you want to get in private contact with me via PM, or if you just want to use the political forum area for whatever, feel free: http://z13.invisionfree.com/eRegime/index.php?act=idx
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 No.3179

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>>3168

Well it can easily be disproved by the fact that there existed throughout the 1970s and 80s, and up to the present day, pro-Hoxha/Albanian parties across the world. Saying that everyone who ever supported the Albanian position was ethnically Albanian is silly.

The irony is that there really were and are virtually no non-Serb/Croat/Montenegrin/Macedonian "Titoists" in the world.




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 No.3186[Reply]

In this thread people can either post or request sources related to Marxism-Leninism.

I will start off with an obviously not comprehensive list:

On Lenin and Leninism:

* https://archive.org/details/lininandtherussi035179mbp

* https://archive.org/details/ShortCourseHistoryCPSUBolsheviks

The works of Lenin and Stalin (in PDF format):

* http://marx2mao.com/Lenin/Index.html

* http://marx2mao.com/Stalin/Index.html

General works on the USSR:

* https://archive.org/details/AHistoryOfTheU.S.S.R. (be sure to add the dot at the end otherwise URL won't work)

* http://www.plp.org/books/ ("The Stalin Era" by Anna Louise Strong and "Fraud, Famine & Fascism" in that same link concerning the Ukrainian famine)

* https://archive.org/details/TheSovietsAlbertRhysWilliams

* https://archive.org/details/ThePatternOfSovietPower

* https://archive.org/details/MoscowCorrespondentRalphParker

* https://archive.org/details/RedVirtue

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 No.3132[Reply]

very muchLooks fun

 No.3133

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 No.3185

I have the first pic into a poster in my room.

;_; my live sucks.




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 No.3180[Reply]

what would happen to tgirls in the perfect marxist-lenninist society?

 No.3181

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I'd imagine those who can best live their lives as the gender opposite to that assigned to them at birth will be given the means to do so.


 No.3182

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>>3180

Well, nobody wants to hear this but for the first ten or so years trans aren't going to get the hormone treatments and shit they need. It's just not a priority for any meaningful revolution. It's one thing to try and respect their identity, it's another to just throw out a legitimate economic module and appeal to people's fantasies. The fact is if the resources are not able to develop it, too bad for them. Trans-activism is wholly a first-world privilege because we can live with such comforts of "exploring our gender identity". Do you see third-world trans? No... you see third-world male prostitutes who look like really fuckable dudes to make some money.

It's basically just people can be who they want to be, fuck who they want to fuck, there's no pressure to adhere to gender normatives or form a hetero-centric family structure. But this is not acheived by waving a magic wand, in time material conditions will soften for all and all can enjoy the benefits of a liberal individualism to some degree. But as it stands now an estrogen pill in one tran's mouth takes the food right out of a starving African kid's mouth.


 No.3184

Hopefully the Psychological treatment they need




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 No.2815[Reply]

As people here know, I scan books. You can find the books myself and others have scanned here: https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22kocotosi%40gmail.com%22&sort=-publicdate

There are plenty of books put out by the USSR, China and other countries, or just old books in general, that can be obtained either cheaply via online sellers or libraries. These can then be put online alongside the books you see there.

If /marx/ can contribute to the left in some way, I think this can be a fine way to do so. There are two ways in which to do this:

1. Buy a book online or go to a nearby library and obtain a book, then scan it and send it my way so I can put it online.

2. Buy a book online and ship it to my address, whereupon I will duly scan it.

Be sure to mention any books beforehand so I can tell you if they're able to be scanned and publicly put online or not. As should be obvious, these are books that we would either have permission to scan or would face no repercussions to doing so (such as the aforementioned Soviet books.)

To get into contact with me sign up on the forum mentioned in the stickied thread on top and just send me a PM there (my username there is the same as on here.) If you want to buy a book for me to scan, PM me there and I'll direct you to a bunch of cheap books ($5 or less) you could choose from.

In the meantime I am going to use this thread to announce books I intend to scan.

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 No.3122

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 No.3142

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 No.3167

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 No.3183

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 No.2479[Reply]

So yeah here's a thread where you can ask me questions 'bout Stalin and the USSR under him and I'll do my best to respond.

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 No.3152

>>3151

Sorry if it sounds stupid but could you explain what you mean by "exploiters of the countryside"? What did they do to make them exploiters?


 No.3154

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>>3152

Hired labor, loaned money to poor peasants at usurious rates, engaged in price speculation. All three of these things would be impossible under collective agriculture.


 No.3162

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There's always room for more questions 'bout Stalin.


 No.3177

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sorry for the off-topic question, but from a marxist perspective, what would drive a fully conscious person to breed? If every person had a strong enough consciousness to realize that they were driven to breeding by biological impulses and not reason would they have incentive to breed at all? What would even be the point of the continuation of the human race?

Would it be egotistical to have children for the sake of having children?

thanks for the answers in advance. I am not a nihilist myself, just heard this argument before. I am not well read enough to have a good answer to it, I simply think that there is no reason to make a concentrated effort to kill off the human race, and it would be even more redundant for a nihilist to make such an effort.

An on topic question: On what basis does Trotsky, or any other reformist for that matter, claim that Stalin is a revisionist? And by what claim does Trotsky hold to the seat of the soviet union? Trots always say how Stalin cheated him out of his position but I find very little evidence of this and most evidence points to most of the party being very hostile towards him.

What were the fractions that existed in the USSR, post-Lenin?

here is a rare koba.


 No.3178

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>>3177

>If every person had a strong enough consciousness to realize that they were driven to breeding by biological impulses and not reason would they have incentive to breed at all? What would even be the point of the continuation of the human race?

Well Marxism itself is based on the view that mankind is able to shape its own destiny under conditions of socialism and communism. Bit difficult for that to happen when the next generation won't exist.

>Would it be egotistical to have children for the sake of having children?

No. In fact Lenin criticized the opposite tendency: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/jun/29.htm

>On what basis does Trotsky, or any other reformist for that matter, claim that Stalin is a revisionist?

They claim that to believe it is possible to achieve socialism in one or a bunch of countries (rather than as a worldwide phenomenon) is a "nationalist deviation." That's basically the central point. It's what allows them to label everyone from Stalin himself to Mao, Tito, Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Castro, Deng, etc., etc. as "Stalinists."

>What were the fractions that existed in the USSR, post-Lenin?

In the 1920s it was basically Trotsky and Zinoviev creating a "left" faction and Bukharin on the right.

A good account is contained in the first chapters of this work (although the whole work is worth reading): https://archive.org/details/SovietPolicyAndItsCritics




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 No.3175[Reply]

You know why leftypol worries about guys like us? Cause they know that's real communism. They don't want real communism.

They don't want tens of thousands of prisoners, predominately colored prisoners being released from jail and put on some milita program to hunt down moderators.

They don't want to lose their cushy standard of living where they can piss away money on Starbucks and wholefoods.

They don't want someone just ignoring their special snowflake identity and moving toward better infrustructure, environment, and technology.

They don't want someone who will tell them to get a real job. That we'll make sure they get it, but they're becoming doctors, not psychologists, engineers not graphic designers.

Deep down all SJWs, all liberals, are just self-loathing republicans that want just enough leftism to fap to their child porn anime and not be laughed at for it. But not so much leftism where they have to become men.



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 No.2959[Reply]

What do you think of the nationalist socialist idealogies like national bolshevism and strasserism?

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 No.3117

>>3115

>Sargon of Akkad is not a Marxist-Leninist. Their opposition to feminism is useless because it is not part of the anti-capitalist project.

I'm sure you don't realize this is a logical fallacy

>Straight white males hate each other because of fierce competition in the mating process

Actually it's women that have that mutation. Are you implying that straight and white men are evolutionarily different from minority men??? Are you implying that gay men ever even evolved??

>(not to mention economic competition which is an aspect of capitalism).

How is this exclusive to straights whites or men?

>>3112

>He's anti-ideology(sic).

He is anti-idealogue. There is a difference.

>Fundamentally, feminism isn't about anything men have to say about it,

If you had watched the videos you would know that all of this information is coming directly from feminists.

>>3112

>Do not listen to anyone who is anti-ideology.

Again, anti idealogue.

>Besides being a rare combination of politically and They're one of the few sorts who can legitimately and decisively dismissed by the rejoinder "let's agree to disagree".

Do you object to skepticism?

Are you straight white or male?


 No.3144

>>3117

No it's not a logical fallacy. I don't want to harass Anita Sarkessian all day so I have nothing in common with Sargon in terms of objectives. He wants feminism to be discredited to disqualify via rational of ahistoricity the record of abuses against women for false liberal egalitarianism. His analysis of the origins of feminism isn't materialist.

It's not a mutation or evolution that men believe they will go insane or die if they do not mate in their lives, it's just a very very popular lie.

The bourgeoisie will hire straight white males unless forced to otherwise. Competition in this regard is between them first.

He explicitly states himself to be anti-ideology not ideologue.

If all his information comes from feminists, then why does he bother with his pointless commentary? Does he really believe a movement intended exclusively to the cause of women will benefit from what a man has to say? Like Marxism is about excluding the voice of the bourgeoisie in the destiny of the working class, Feminism is about excluding the voice of men in the destiny of women.

No shit I object to skepticism, do you think I would be a materialist otherwise?

That question has nothing to do with any of this.


 No.3156

>>3144

>I don't want to harass Anita Sarkessian

Anita does not recieve genuine harrasment, and sargon very rarely even talks about her

>He wants feminism to be discredited to disqualify via rational of ahistoricity

Actually he simply discredits it by virtue of it's own Ethos

>women for false liberal egalitarianism

In what way is a promotion of Equality NOT left-wing or marxist?

>His analysis of the origins of feminism isn't materialist.

Here's another case of that fallacy i mentioned, it's called ad hominem. You are not adressing anything he says.

>It's not a mutation or evolution that men believe they will go insane or die if they do not mate in their lives, it's just a very very popular lie.

Yes, propagated by feminists and no one else.

>The bourgeoisie will hire straight white males unless forced to otherwise.

A-are you being serious right now?? This is so fundemantly detatched from reality that it's not even wrong.

>He explicitly states himself to be anti-ideology not ideologue.

A lie.

>If all his information comes from feminists, then why does he bother with his pointless commentary?

One might ask the same thing about Socrates and the Sophists.

>Does he really believe a movement intended exclusively to the cause of women will benefit from what a man has to say?

Do you really believe a movement inteded exclusively to the cause of workers will benefit from what a property owner has to say? Clearly Engels' ideas are worthless to the communist movement.

> Like Marxism is about excluding the voice of the bourgeoisie in the destiny of the working class

No Marxism is about the elimenation of class.

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 No.3172

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>>2959

They're reactionary in spirit and character, but not in action. And that's what is most important.

At the end of the day we gain more tolerating and trying to reason with these third-positionist movements than we ever could hanging out with anarchists and social democrats. And I authentically mean that. Look at leftypol, it's fucking disgusting. They honetly think they're doing anyone a favor by posting shitty memes and banning one another. They have no concept of socialist theory, no motivation for actual revolution, and are little faggots who could never pick up a gun and shoot someone who deserved it. Key word being someone who deserved it. As I'm sure if a moderator told them to shoot someone they'd gladly obey and drink down their cum right afterward. As they would a strongman dictator like Putin or Donald Trump.

Now yes, these nazbols and Strasserists are also into strongman complexes. But at least their fantasy ends at state certified ones. It makes them more manageable. Leftypol is outright cooperating with moderator peodphiles and terrorists defending privatized totalitarianism. That's not a communist, that's not a socialist, that's nothing but an animal that needs to be put down.


 No.3173

>>3172

As if this thread didn't have enough retarded tripfags

>pedophiles and terrorists

A new low, jim




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 No.3171[Reply]

In another exciting effort to make this place a bit more active, let's have a thread dedicated to how everything Tito did was wrong and how Yugoslavia was devoid of anything good.

To begin with, Pol Pot.

"Like our Democratic Cambodia, Yugoslavia is a non-aligned country which has adhered to the position of preserving independence. Friendship between our two countries is therefore based on the same principle. We have always esteemed and respected Comrade President Tito and the friendly Yugoslav people. Comrade President Tito and the Yugoslav people have always supported and helped us. We have sympathy for them and wish to express our thanks to Comrade President Tito and the friendly Yugoslav people."

(Pol Pot, quoted in Journal of Contemporary Asia Vol. 8 No. 3, 1978. p. 413.)

And at a time when "Democratic Kampuchea" under Pol Pot was trying to seize Vietnamese territory by armed attacks and massacres...

"In May 1978 Hanoi proposed that the UN appoint a mission to mediate frontier and other outstanding problems between Vietnam and Kampuchea. This move was blocked by China.

Then at the Belgrade Conference of Foreign Ministers of the Non-Aligned Movement in July 1978 — which I attended — Vietnamese Foreign Minister Nguyen Duy Trinh asked that the appointment of a 'good offices' mission, composed of Non-Aligned members, to mediate Vietnam-Kampuchea differences be placed on the agenda. Sri Lanka's foreign minister A. C. S. Hameed, as Chairman of the Movement, was willing, as was India's foreign minister, A. B. Vajpayee, who chaired the Political Committee where the agenda was decided. But Yugoslavia's foreign minister, Josip Vrhovec, acting as the delegate of the host country and under intense pressure from China — which was not a member but was extremely active in the lobbies — persuaded Sri Lanka's Hameed that this would be a 'divisive move' because only one of the two parties to the dispute sought mediation. To force the proposal through — assured as it was of overwhelming support — would be 'interfering in the internal affairs' of Pol Pot's Kampuchea! Under pressure from Sri Lanka, Vietnam withdrew the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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 No.2222[Reply]

In an effort to encourage activity, here's a thread all about Socialist Albania and Enver Hoxha. You can ask me questions and I'll respond to them.

Some background material:
* http://www.enverhoxha.ru/Archive_of_books/History_PLA/history_of_the_party_of_labour_of_albania_second_edition_eng.pdf
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Albanian_split
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Albanian_split
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 No.2954

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>>2953

There were various parties which were officially recognized by the Party of Labour of Albania, the most notable probably being the CPC-ML in Canada, PCdoB in Brazil, and KPD/ML in West Germany. The 8th Congress of the PLA in 1981 had delegations from over 20 parties.

Their activities were covered in the Albanian press, occasional articles in their journals and newspapers were reprinted in said press, they attended important Albanian congresses and conferences, etc.

As for the comparison between how China treated fraternal parties and how Albania treated them, Geng Biao said to the Albanians in 1973 that: "China does not approve the creation of Marxist-Leninist parties and does not want the representatives of these parties to come to China. Their coming is a nuisance to us but we can do nothing about them, for we cannot send them away. We accept them just as we accept the representatives of bourgeois parties."

I have talked to someone who was a member of the KPD/ML. He says that the Albanians provided the party with Albanian materials, but did not send them money and encouraged them to be self-sufficient in both ideological and financial matters rather than rely on direction and subsidies from abroad.

>Also; do you have any info about a Pro-Albanian Bookstore that existed in Toronto up until the end of Socialist Albania?

Yes, that was connected to the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist), it was originally called the Norman Bethune Institute and later renamed to the Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin Institute.


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>>2954

Oddly enough, Maison Norman Bethune is now the name of the RCP-PCR bookstore in Montreal, and they still have mass quantities of Peking editions of Marx, Engels, and Lenin.

What do you think about the CPC-ML participating in the Canadian election with 70 candidates? I think I might have read the term "Nation Wrecking" a few times in what I read but boes "Democratic Renewal" have any prevenance in Hoxhaism?


 No.2957

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>>2955

The CPC-ML doesn't identify with Hoxha's writings anymore. Since the mid-90s it has been close to Cuba and (without actually endorsing Juche) the DPRK.

Hoxha wrote about what measures Marxist-Leninists in Western countries should take and what errors to avoid in regard to gaining a mass following: http://enver-hoxha.net/librat_pdf/english/eurocommunism/IV.pdf


 No.3169

What do you have to say about the execution of Liri Gega, a member of the party since it's early days and furthermore, pregnant. Do you support such brutality, or would you have done the same as Hoxha?

Additionally there was some awfully brutal treatment of political enemies in Albania. I am all for revolutionary terror but some of the things I've heard about Hoxha's actions against enemies absolutely sickens me. With Stalin, there often seems to be a rationalization, gulag conditions made sense and there was simply no other option.

I do not normally like to moralize, but the murder of pregnant women cannot be necessary for socialism.

I can support Robespierre, he attempted to limit brutality and curb the terror so that only the powerul, those capable of being guilty, would be in it's scope. Many of the jacobin's themselves were killed in the terror.

If Hoxha's reasons for purging the party were similar, I still do not think I can support it. As far as I know, Robespierre was not directly responsible for the unecessary execution of pregnant women.


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>>3169

According to Hoxha, "Khrushchev told us that we had not done well in executing Dali Ndreu and Liri Gega [Ndreu's wife], who was pregnant. 'Even the Tsar did not do such a thing,' he said. We answered calmly that we did not execute people for nothing and that we shot only those who betrayed the Homeland and the people, and after it had been proved that they had committed hostile deeds and the cup had been filled. These people had been denounced by the Party for years before, they were traitors and agents of the Yugoslav revisionists; but it was only when they attempted to flee the country that our security organs caught them, and the people's court, on the basis of the facts, sent them to the punishment they deserved. As to the claim that Liri Gega was pregnant, this is a slanderous lie." (Selected Works Vol. III, p. 33.)

To this day there is no evidence that she was pregnant except Khrushchev's word.

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 No.2973[Reply]

/leftypol/ said you might be able to help me out?

What was the nature of the Sino-Soviet split, and why were so many Academics/Westerners/Activists who were so ready to stand with the Soviet Union averse to China (and/or vice versa). What's the beef?

PS I've even heard some put Mao's revolution in the same category as Hitler's (nationalistic and 'romantic'?), as opposed to October Revolution (?).

PPS. I know there are actually multiple questions, there, and they may have different answers.

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 No.2985

>>2984

>IMO that term belongs much more to petty-bourgeois intellectuals like Sartre or Serge

The idea came from Richard Rorty in CIS saying that Habermas was worried a revolution in the West would become a 'romantic' one like Hitler or Mao. This was in 1986, so the USSR was technically still around at the time.


 No.3163

Why there is a lot of french jews (Bernard Henry Levy, Alain Finkielkraut...) who were Maoists in the 1960s-1970s but became Neocons later in their lives ?


 No.3164

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>>3163

There have been many student radicals from the 1960s and 70s who have transformed into bourgeois politicians and academics. As far as French Jews go, Cohn-Bendit went from being an ultra-leftist who ranted against "Stalinism" to being a social-democrat (while, of course, still perfectly willing to rant against "Stalinism" if he ever has to do so.)

I don't think being a Jew has much to do with becoming a neo-con. If I had to guess why a bunch of Jews went from "left" to neo-con right, belief in a common Jewish identity and establishing a tie between that identity and the continued existence of the State of Israel probably accounts for the move into a specifically neo-conservative position, helped along by the fact that Jews are less likely to be socially conservative in the "WASP" sense and thus less interested in paleoconservative types.


 No.3165

>>3164

Thank you very much, I didn't expect an answer so quickly !

What do you think about "On the Jewish Question" by Karl Marx ? and about the Jewish Question in general ?

Also what are your thoughts on the Migrants Crisis and Massive Immigration in general ?

I know it's off-topic but the board is kind of dead.


 No.3166

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>>3165

>What do you think about "On the Jewish Question" by Karl Marx ? and about the Jewish Question in general ?

Marx's pamphlet was written as a polemic against Bruno Bauer, an anti-Semite. Marx discussed the situation Jews were driven into by European society through centuries of persecution and restrictions on what occupations they were allowed to engage in. He noted that with the abolition of capitalism the Jew would be liberated from Judaism and from that peculiar status as a "huckster" and other negative roles anti-Semitism shoehorned them into.

>Also what are your thoughts on the Migrants Crisis and Massive Immigration in general ?

I think that the Western powers are the cause of the crisis and are hypocritically trying to deflect blame for it. Refugees ought to be supported against scapegoating and xenophobia, while at the same time attempts by the capitalist governments to cut social programs (citing "lazy refugees" or whatever) or pose as "defenders of national culture" should be opposed.

>I know it's off-topic but the board is kind of dead.

I don't mind. Better to be kinda dead than full of lameness.




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 No.1102[Reply]

Marxism is for children who want to live in an utopian fairyland.

They have failed in life and blame the bourgeois because commies are too fucking stupid.

 No.1103

thinking marxism is a political system, trololo. go back to more marxist than willing to admit /natsoc/.

 No.1110

Last I heard conservatives were trying to call Engels a hypocrite because at one point he had to manage (and successfully, at that) his father's business.

I can't think of a single commie leader who was a "failure" at life and thus decided that Marxism would take them out of their predicament.

 No.1112

>>1110
*Bourgeois ideology intensifies*

 No.1132

>Marxism is for children who want to live in an utopian fairyland.
>posts picture of Nazi Germany

 No.3157

Nazism is for children who want to live in an utopian fairyland.

They have failed in life and blame the jews because nazis are too fucking stupid.




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 No.3141[Reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TgdLkGwbTw

What are your thoughts on his points, ismail.

I know it's a long video but I'm interested in what you think.

 No.3143

I can't stand to watch this guy...


 No.3145

>>3141

He thinks the bourgeoisie are exploited for their emotionally stressful property exchanges.

Spoilt fucking Baby.


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Can you summarize? I remember watching one or two of his videos years back, if I recall right he's a sort of libertarian and makes "mutual contracts" a big thing.

If the argument boils down to that, then I would simply say that in a class society "mutual contracts" between different classes cannot be equal. If a worker "contracts" himself to a capitalist he is not only doing so because the alternative is destitution or worse, but is also going to be exploited simply because of how capitalism works: the appropriation of surplus-value by the capitalist.


 No.3155

Stef is a cult leader




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 No.2418[Reply]

Hey guys, I used to a Trotskyist/Cliffite club but have become a bit disillusioned from them. I'm interested in learning more about Stalin however, but it seems every single Stalin documentary on youtube paints him as Satan. Fill me in on why Trotskyism sucks...

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Лев Троцкий


 No.3129

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 No.3146

>>3130

That second comic is the most unbelievably cringy shit I've seen. Why even.




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