New Leadership
Hello, I am the new leader of /marx/.I will continue the status quo: this board is for those who identify as Marxist-Leninist in some form, whether they uphold or otherwise identify with the Stalin-era USSR, the post-Stalin era, China under Mao, Albania under Hoxha, Cuba, the DPRK or whatever. Non-MLs are allowed to ask questions and the like.
I have a forum with a political forum area for registered users (although the forum itself is for forum games users think up and run.) If you want to get in private contact with me via PM, or if you just want to use the political forum area for whatever, feel free: http://z13.invisionfree.com/eRegime/index.php?act=idx
Stalin questions thread
So yeah here's a thread where you can ask me questions 'bout Stalin and the USSR under him and I'll do my best to respond.
Race
Did Marx talk about race and/or race conflict?
Sources thread
In this thread people can either post or request sources related to Marxism-Leninism.
I will start off with an obviously not comprehensive list:
On Lenin and Leninism:
* https://archive.org/details/lininandtherussi035179mbp
* https://archive.org/details/ShortCourseHistoryCPSUBolsheviks
The works of Lenin and Stalin (in PDF format):
* http://marx2mao.com/Lenin/Index.html
* http://marx2mao.com/Stalin/Index.html
General works on the USSR:
* https://archive.org/details/AHistoryOfTheU.S.S.R. (be sure to add the dot at the end otherwise URL won't work)
* http://www.plp.org/books/ ("The Stalin Era" by Anna Louise Strong and "Fraud, Famine & Fascism" in that same link concerning the Ukrainian famine)
* https://archive.org/details/TheSovietsAlbertRhysWilliams
* https://archive.org/details/ThePatternOfSovietPower
* https://archive.org/details/MoscowCorrespondentRalphParker
* https://archive.org/details/RedVirtue
* https://archive.org/details/russiwithoutillu00sloarich
* https://archive.org/details/wedidntaskutopia00timbrich
* http://ciml.250x.com/archive/ussr/english/1940_october_1917_in_russia_mintz_1940.pdf
Soviet politics (elections and such):
* https://archive.org/details/TheSocialAndStateStructureOfTheUSSR
* https://archive.org/details/TheNewSovietConstitution
* https://archive.org/details/PoliticalPowerInTheUSSR
* https://unz.org/Pub/AmQSovietUnion-1938oct-00059
Soviet foreign policy:
* https://archive.org/details/SovietRussiaAndTheBalticRepublics
* http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/006770560 ("The New Lithuania" by Anna Louise Strong)
* https://archive.org/details/PeacefulCoexistence
The Soviet economy:
* https://archive.org/details/SovietEconomicDevelopmentSince1917
* https://archive.org/details/ManAndPlanInSovietEconomy
* https://archive.org/details/AVisitToRussiaReportOfDurhamMiners
How the USSR handled nationalities:
* https://archive.org/details/PeoplesOfTheSovietUnionLamont
* https://archive.org/details/APeopleRebornTheStoryOfNorthOssetia
* https://archive.org/details/SovietLightOnTheColonies
On the Moscow Trials:
* https://archive.org/details/SovietPolicyAndItsCritics (also of value on Trotskyism in general)
* https://archive.org/details/SovietJusticeAndTheTrialOfRadekAndOthers
Eastern Europe:
* https://archive.org/details/RevolutionInEasternEuropeWarriner
* https://archive.org/details/RumanianSummer
Albania:
* http://www.enverhoxha.ru/enver_hoxha_books_on_foreign_languages.htm
* https://archive.org/details/PortraitOfAlbania
* https://archive.org/details/TheHistoryOfTheSocialistConstructionOfAlbania
* https://archive.org/details/TheKhrushchevites
For compilations of writings by Marx, Engels and Lenin on various subjects (the United States, anarchism, etc.) see my thread here: http://www.revleft.com/vb/compilations-writings-marx-t195470/index.html?t=195470
Sites with tons of books and articles in PDF or HTML formats on all sorts of subjects, so I won't repeat them here:
* http://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/
* https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1ZP6ZurgOg-REtjWmJoeVRJUlE
Party of Communists
very muchLooks fun
tgirls in marxist-lenninist society
what would happen to tgirls in the perfect marxist-lenninist society?
/marx/ Scanning Project
As people here know, I scan books. You can find the books myself and others have scanned here: https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22kocotosi%40gmail.com%22&sort=-publicdate
There are plenty of books put out by the USSR, China and other countries, or just old books in general, that can be obtained either cheaply via online sellers or libraries. These can then be put online alongside the books you see there.
If /marx/ can contribute to the left in some way, I think this can be a fine way to do so. There are two ways in which to do this:
1. Buy a book online or go to a nearby library and obtain a book, then scan it and send it my way so I can put it online.
2. Buy a book online and ship it to my address, whereupon I will duly scan it.
Be sure to mention any books beforehand so I can tell you if they're able to be scanned and publicly put online or not. As should be obvious, these are books that we would either have permission to scan or would face no repercussions to doing so (such as the aforementioned Soviet books.)
To get into contact with me sign up on the forum mentioned in the stickied thread on top and just send me a PM there (my username there is the same as on here.) If you want to buy a book for me to scan, PM me there and I'll direct you to a bunch of cheap books ($5 or less) you could choose from.
In the meantime I am going to use this thread to announce books I intend to scan.
Hopefully leftypol sees this and goes on suicide watch.
You know why leftypol worries about guys like us? Cause they know that's real communism. They don't want real communism.
They don't want tens of thousands of prisoners, predominately colored prisoners being released from jail and put on some milita program to hunt down moderators.
They don't want to lose their cushy standard of living where they can piss away money on Starbucks and wholefoods.
They don't want someone just ignoring their special snowflake identity and moving toward better infrustructure, environment, and technology.
They don't want someone who will tell them to get a real job. That we'll make sure they get it, but they're becoming doctors, not psychologists, engineers not graphic designers.
Deep down all SJWs, all liberals, are just self-loathing republicans that want just enough leftism to fap to their child porn anime and not be laughed at for it. But not so much leftism where they have to become men.
What do you think of the nationalist socialist idealogies like national bolshevism and strasserism?
The "Tito sucks" thread
In another exciting effort to make this place a bit more active, let's have a thread dedicated to how everything Tito did was wrong and how Yugoslavia was devoid of anything good.
To begin with, Pol Pot.
"Like our Democratic Cambodia, Yugoslavia is a non-aligned country which has adhered to the position of preserving independence. Friendship between our two countries is therefore based on the same principle. We have always esteemed and respected Comrade President Tito and the friendly Yugoslav people. Comrade President Tito and the Yugoslav people have always supported and helped us. We have sympathy for them and wish to express our thanks to Comrade President Tito and the friendly Yugoslav people."
(Pol Pot, quoted in Journal of Contemporary Asia Vol. 8 No. 3, 1978. p. 413.)
And at a time when "Democratic Kampuchea" under Pol Pot was trying to seize Vietnamese territory by armed attacks and massacres...
"In May 1978 Hanoi proposed that the UN appoint a mission to mediate frontier and other outstanding problems between Vietnam and Kampuchea. This move was blocked by China.
Then at the Belgrade Conference of Foreign Ministers of the Non-Aligned Movement in July 1978 — which I attended — Vietnamese Foreign Minister Nguyen Duy Trinh asked that the appointment of a 'good offices' mission, composed of Non-Aligned members, to mediate Vietnam-Kampuchea differences be placed on the agenda. Sri Lanka's foreign minister A. C. S. Hameed, as Chairman of the Movement, was willing, as was India's foreign minister, A. B. Vajpayee, who chaired the Political Committee where the agenda was decided. But Yugoslavia's foreign minister, Josip Vrhovec, acting as the delegate of the host country and under intense pressure from China — which was not a member but was extremely active in the lobbies — persuaded Sri Lanka's Hameed that this would be a 'divisive move' because only one of the two parties to the dispute sought mediation. To force the proposal through — assured as it was of overwhelming support — would be 'interfering in the internal affairs' of Pol Pot's Kampuchea! Under pressure from Sri Lanka, Vietnam withdrew the proposal in the interests of 'maintaining Non-Aligned unity'!
On the opening day of the Belgrade Conference I met Milan Marcovich, head of liaison with foreign delegates and a friend from my days in Phnom Penh when he had been Yugoslavia's Charge d'Affaires there. His first question was: 'Do you know what's going on in Cambodia?' I replied that I did not and that it was just this lack of information that was most troubling. All of my requests to make a visit had been ignored. 'It is simply awful,' said Marcovich, 'and we are the best placed in the West to know because we have maintained an embassy there all the time. All our mutual [Cambodian] friends have been killed.' ...
He asked if I had met Vittorovich, a Yugoslav filmmaker who had made the only Western film inside Pol Pot’s Kampuchea. I had, but had not seen him since he visited our home in Phnom Penh years earlier. Marcovich said he would be at the conference the following day — and he was. After greetings, his first question to me was: 'Did you see my film?' I had not but my wife Vessa, who was standing alongside me, said she had seen it on French television. Asked what she thought of it, Vessa replied: 'For anyone who has lived in Cambodia, it was terrifying. The only smiling face was that of Pol Pot.' Vittorovich seemed relieved. 'Then my message got through,' he said. 'What we saw was a hundred times worse than we could put on film or I could express in my commentary.' It was clear that diplomatic considerations were an inhibiting factor!
What was extraordinary at Belgrade — and in February 1979 at a meeting of the Non-Aligneds' Coordinating Bureau in Maputo (Mozambique) and even more so at the Non-Aligneds' summit in Havana in September 1979 — was that Yugoslavia took the lead in stubbornly defending the Pol Pot regime. It continued to do so later at the United Nations. That the 'best informed' Western country would do this is explainable only by Yugoslavia's intimate relations with the United States and its new-found friendship with China."
(Burchett, Wilfred. The China-Cambodia-Vietnam Triangle. Chicago, IL: Vanguard Books. 1981. pp. 161-162.)
Yugoslavia continued to recognize "Democratic Kampuchea" in exile at the United Nations after Vietnam liberated the country. Alongside Yugoslav recognition was recognition from the USA, UK, China, Thailand, the DPRK, Romania, etc.
Albania/Hoxha Questions Thread
In an effort to encourage activity, here's a thread all about Socialist Albania and Enver Hoxha. You can ask me questions and I'll respond to them.Some background material:
* http://www.enverhoxha.ru/Archive_of_books/History_PLA/history_of_the_party_of_labour_of_albania_second_edition_eng.pdf
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Albanian_split
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Albanian_split
/leftypol/ said you might be able to help me out?
What was the nature of the Sino-Soviet split, and why were so many Academics/Westerners/Activists who were so ready to stand with the Soviet Union averse to China (and/or vice versa). What's the beef?
PS I've even heard some put Mao's revolution in the same category as Hitler's (nationalistic and 'romantic'?), as opposed to October Revolution (?).
PPS. I know there are actually multiple questions, there, and they may have different answers.
Marxism is for children who want to live in an utopian fairyland.
They have failed in life and blame the bourgeois because commies are too fucking stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TgdLkGwbTw
What are your thoughts on his points, ismail.
I know it's a long video but I'm interested in what you think.
Hey guys, I used to a Trotskyist/Cliffite club but have become a bit disillusioned from them. I'm interested in learning more about Stalin however, but it seems every single Stalin documentary on youtube paints him as Satan. Fill me in on why Trotskyism sucks...
Soviet Furs
Is her theory marxist-leninist?
Why not /pol/?
Why do you use a board dedicated to a particular political orientation when you can use the general politics board?
Future of Ukrainian Left
http://www.marks21.info/imperijalizam/buducnost-levice-u-ukrajini
A Post Revolution world
I normally browse and just read these threads since I tend to learn more just reading posts than on any other board. I must say I wish this place wasn't so dead, it's one of the few places on 8chan that has any sort of intelligent conversation.
Now on to the real topic of the thread. I'm genuinely curious as to what the comrades here would implement post world-wide revolution. What sort of Polices do you guys feel would repair the damages of global capitalism?
What would you do with the current upper class and ruling elites? What about the fascist and liberal (SJWs) reactionaries? What would be your plans for ISIS?
Basically just a general "How would you fix the current world according to Marxist Principles?" Thread.
Good things about Soviet Union
Say what you want about Soviet Union, it has became a scapegoat for socialists and when someone claims that socialism doesen't work they usualy show ugly pictures from Soviet Union and mention many bad things about it.
I'd say in this thread let's do the oposite. Let's post good things about Soviet Union.
Soviet Propaganda Dump
Hello comrades, I made this thread.https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/465712.html#465980
I do not wish to advertise for L.pol, just thought you guys might enjoy this too.
Love you Ismail.
I personally believe in libertarian marxism. What general criticism do you have against lib marxism? Is there other lib marxists here?
Marx can suck my Fascist cock. Fuck commies!
history books/textbooks with socialist lean?
Can anyone suggest any good general history or continental historical books with a socialist lean? I know of a book called "A Marxist History of the World: From Neanderthals to Neoliberals" and while this is acceptable, I am interested in something in a more textbook like fashion. Should I begin a search by looking at socialist states history textbooks? What countries?
1920 Albania game
A few months back I noted I was going to start a game set during WWII Albania on my forum. Well, it was decided that 1920 Albania would be better. The early-mid 20s were full of turmoil as leftists, liberals, conservatives, and other sections of society feuded over pretty much everything, using parliamentary and armed means to get their way.
You can join here: http://z13.invisionfree.com/eRegime/index.php?act=idx
(The picture is from a 1966 Albanian photobook, noting Albanian newspapers praising the Bolsheviks for bringing to light the 1915 Treaty of London and other secret treaties concluded by the Allies, which made the Albanians aware that the permanent partitioning of their country was imminent and spurred them on to establish a national government.)
why is /leftypol/ so deluded and biased?
on a simmilar note, why does this place have so little people? It is great for information and I could even see most of the sectarians over on that cancer bin benefitting from info here.
Is there any proper place for discussion on economics, or have the leftcoms crawled under every rug?
A place faster than /marx/, I mean.
Greetings, I am the BO of >>>/politics/
I wanted to know if the board owner would be willing to crosslink our boards in the announcement bar. This would advertise users to eachother's board.
Communism never fucking works...
I "own" >>>/commmunism , a dead board. Ask me anything. I'll respond in a month or so.
Hey Marxist, if it worked so well, why did it fail? Living in a world of delusional where things that sound good on paper don't really translate so well into the reality is fine and dandy on the Internet, but you come around MY neighborhood and I'll start selling tomatoes and such for people to throw at your lazy ass. You see, that's the beauty of capatalism. Everyone wins. They already have job to buy my tomatoes. When their are not spending it on blow, hookers and fast cars, they are oppressing your stupid asses with fruit. I win because I get money and can waste my product if I feel the need.
Marxist logic
"Retard and scientist are equal."
"Dumbass and inventor are equal."
HA! Get out China, get out USSR. You're dead.
Here's a picture of my nuts! Enjoy this glorious American penis.
Crisis in the Kremlin
Anyone here played this.
To quote the wikipedia page:
>Crisis in the Kremlin is a 1991 strategy video game with managerial aspects in which the player acts as General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from 1985 to 2017. The player assumes the role of the reformist Mikhail Gorbachev, the nationalist Boris Yeltsin, or the hardline Yegor Ligachev.
So far I'm pretty shit at it but I'm also getting the feeling it's basically impossible to keep the Soviet Union from collapsing.
Also general Soviet vidya thread.
comunism sucks
Hey /marx/,
I came across this article and found it quite interesting. It basically goes into an legitimate alternative explanation for phenomenon observed in quantum physics. It seems to bring things back into a materialist rather than idealistic metaphysical view, something criicial for Marxism and socialist revolution. I'm beginning to wonder if the orthodox view of quantum physics was influenced by reactionary thinking and idealism which led them to mainly accept the prevailing explanations they did.
Article here:
http://www.wired.com/2014/06/the-new-quantum-reality/
I have some questions about Soviet Russia. Some of these are going to sound retarded, and I admit to that.
What exactly was the currency used at the time?
Would you say that the workers controlled the means of production under Communist Russia? How well payed was the average worker?
You proabbly get asked this a lot, but was there free speech in Communist Russia?
Dialectical Materialism Thread
Every Marxist should study and understand dialectical materialism. It's something I see little mention of on this board though. So let's have a thread about it.Is there anything anyone is having trouble understanding about dialectical materialism?
Zizek
What do ya'll comrades think of this dude?
Posadism.
Discuss.
only 1 race should be in a communist country
does anyone else agree that niggers and other shitskins should be exterminated from a communist country and that whites should be the only race that prosper? i honestly don't think communism will work in a country filled with those tar zombies.
>inb4 racist
>inb4 ebil natsi!!!
>inb4 sturmfig
>inb4 banned
>inb4 "i support niggers"
>inb4 "communism is a nigger ideology heil obama"
fag
Reformism
Do you think the Scandinavian or other socialized European countries can acheive communism without a revolution? Nowadays I've been thinking it appears that a relatively smooth transition can be possible in some countries, but perhaps not the great imperial powers.
It seems like as capital is concentrated into more and more hands, the capitalist class shrinks and also loses autonomy in a way. When I say autonomy I mean like ability to make decisions in ways that contradict the efficient distrubtion of resources. As the rate of profit drops, and things are automated (which removes the source of surplus value and profit - labor) they have to optimize the company such that the distribution of resoruces to the consumers is as efficient as possible, and their own income will be reduced. From this perhaps their political influence will be reduced, due to their decreased number and decreased income. Somehow I've been thinking that reformism may be a potentially valid, if slow and inglorious, route to communism just based on the economic inevitabilities of the development of capitalism.
That being said we may also have violent struggles where things come to a head and maybe another world war to consolidate the economies of the east and west.
What do you think?
What does /marx/ think of Free Software? It is highly communist in it's ideals even if the founders of the movement don't admit it.
What do you think about KKE, /marx/?
They are pretty much one of the only hardline Communist party that actually has any significance or power in Europe.
Bunkerchan is now in it's first public release!
www.bunkerchan.org/left/index.html
It is essentially functional. The only things that currently don't work are banners, flags, and PDFs. PDFs will be added quickly, as it should only take a minor settings change. Banners are not added due to poor documentation making it impossible to figure out how to do. in the way our boards do.
Flags are only not working because I don't have any, if someone has an archive of all the /leftypol/ flags I'd happily add them.
Here is a strawpoll for deciding what boards to have, if any, in addition to the current ones listed in the top left corner.
http://www.strawpoll.me/5439226
In addition, if anyone can decide a swaggin Logo, I would be eternally grateful.
>Posted from a secure and necessary people's bunker.
Copied from my post in /leftypol/ All leftism is accepted, especially if you want to have sincere discussion.
Fuck Indigenous People
Friendly reminder that if you support the EZLN, Che Guevara, and all those who care about "preserving indigenous culture and communities", you are a reactionary.From Friedrich Engels' "The Magyar Struggle" (January 1849):
>... the Austrian Germans and the Magyars will gain their freedom and take a bloody revenge on the Slav barbarians. The general war which will then break out will scatter this Slav Sonderbund, and annihilate all these small pig-headed nations even to their very names. The next world war will not only cause reactionary classes and dynasties to disappear from the face of the earth, but also entire reactionary peoples. And that too is an advance
Literature Thread
In this thread maybe we can compile some literature about different topics related to Marxism. Then I can make a sticky with a long list of possibly categorized links for people to browse. So feel free to post things that would be good for people to read ITT.
Welcome comrades.
Music
Socialism and Religion
What does /marx/ think of Anatoly Lunacharsky's theories on Godbuilding?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God-Building
Useful and interesting Marxist theory on the nature of religion, or was Lenin right to dismiss it?
Are we all anti-feminist here?
What does /Marx/ think about the hijacking of the women's movement by right wing fascists?
Anti-feminist, pro-women's rights
Hello comrades!
Any opinion on picrelated?
I think he does good work, my olny significant problem with him is his buttlove for Anita Sarkeesian.
Nationalism and Its Effects on Peace in Europe
With global crisis, unemployment, dissatisfaction, poverty and intolerance has increased and with it also nationalism. Political parties with nationalist platforms are rising and gaining more support around the world and Europe is no exception.
In Spain, Italy, and the United Kingdom and across Europe we can see the rise of the right. The financiaI crisis in the Eurozone and beyond has triggered rising of nationalists and far-right political parties.
The European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) on 9th of July released a report about the dramatic increase in anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, online hate speech and xenophobic political discourse as the main trends in 2014.
Nationalism can be positive with legitimacy, promotion of nations and inspiration for citizens or negative by creating tensions between different ethnicity and groups in or outside the country. Some negative aspects of ideology or political movement can be seen in the latest football matches in the Balkans, where supporters of team groups have burned many national flags and hooliganism that is the result of long lasting hatred and nationalism on the ground. Every country has its own history and different positions, but still similarities could be found.
The country aII news is regarding to in recent times is Greece. A known slogan “Greece for Greeks” is well known in its anti-austerity party. Attacks against minorities and immigrants with racism are seen in one of the European Union (EU) members. Golden Dawn neo-Nazi party is linked to hundreds of violent attacks against minorities.
It is known for anti-immigration, racist-nationaIist worldview. With elections being held this year in January the party captured 6.3% of the vote and 17 senate seats in Hellenic parliament and become the country’s third largest party. In 2014 the party won 9.4% of votes in European parliamentary election and with it 3 seats out of 21.
The party has been put on a trial this year for its criminal activity.
Nationalism in Greece has divided citizens and noncitizens to us and them and created the gap between both. With the economic crisis, Greeks debt, overall economic meltdown, unemployment and increasing number of refugees from different countries, the party led by Nikos Michaloliakos has gained more support and caused even greater intolerance to foreign people in need. Unfortunately, they are not the only one spreading intolerance. Many politicians have a stance against immigrants, which shapes the Greeks’ attitude towards nationalism.
Couldn't see a thread about it so for fun might as well start it, what are some common lies you hear propogated by people who aren't marxists? We can either debunk them or just make fun of them if they've been debunked ad nauseum.
I can start:
>everyone makes the exact same amount of money
>human nature makes socialism inherently impossible
>everyone will become too lazy and not want to work
Did the two soviet leaders before Gorby do anything of relevance? did any of the mhave good politics?
Would anyone be interested in making a counter-video to this, or a sort of debunking? It would be interesting at least to see a good criticism. The person is quite polite and makes a clearly structured argument, so it will be easy to attack key points.
What does /marx/ think of slavoj zizek?
What does /marx/ think of Nikita kruschev?
Why did Lenin dislike Syndicalism so much? It seems like it's a system that makes the most sense for worker control. Also, can I get some info about the Workers Opposition in the early Soviet Union.
Source Validity
I find source validity to be exceedingly difficult to verify when dealing with socialism. There are many conflicting accounts and propaganda both ways. I try not to take anything at face value, but it's hard to sort the truth from the lies.
Example: Grover Furr clearly puts a lot of work into his works but he isn't exactly an actual expert on the area and sometimes I question the roots of his sources. He also has said that Stalin never committed any crimes. Even the most hardcore Marxist-Leninist has to admit Stalin at least made a mistake at some point. I like what Grover Furr is saying but It's hard to tell how valid it is.
Makhno
Can we have a thread dedicated to dispelling the myths and outright deifying propaganda that Anarchists have made about Makhno?
Pdf related
Bavarian Soviet Republic
Comrades, do you know some good books or movies about Bavarian Soviet Republic ( 1918-1919 ) ?
>>>/leftypol/246458
What does /marx/ think of this?
Fitness and Revolution
Resistance training to maintain and improve lean body mass has the most benefits
Cardiovascular health benefits best from weight training; more than endurance cardiovscular
>They found that men with high grip strength had a decreased risk of mortality; 23 percent lower for every 1 standard deviation (15 kg) increase in grip strength.
>Women with higher grip strength had a 19 percent decreased risk of mortality for every 1 standard deviation (10 kg) increase in grip strength.
>Researchers used to think that overweight elderly people had a higher risk of dying, but recent studies have shown that both overweight and underweight elderly people are more likely to die. More and more epidemiologists are therefore coming to the conclusion that it’s not bodyweight that determines how long you are likely to live, but lean body mass.
>We have shown that using typical resistance machines—three days a week at a moderate intensity (65 percent of your 10-repetition maximum) for three sets and 10 repetitions can lead to heart benefits," says Collier. He also adds that one should complete reps at a slow rate to get the most effective workout from the equipment.
Where did Lenin go wrong? I consider myself a Leninist but im interested in learning more about the actual policies as opposed to just theory.
http://8ch.net/leftypol/res/217413.html#217703
It looks like /Leftypol/ might be fighting back against anarcucks.
Comrades, we must fight the capitalist imperialism in this thread!
https://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/40577724
Post communism and collectivize the thread!
Communist Laos
I can't for the life of me find any good info on them. Would love to learn more about them, especially from communist sources.
How socialist are they say compared to Cuba? Have they gone the capitalist-restorationist China/Vietnam route? What were their relations with Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Mao and Deng?
What were some unique policies of the Laotian government compared to other Marxist Leninist governments? How liberal or authoritarian was it? How did religion fare?
What's a good non-bourgeois source of information on Pol Pot?
"Marxism-Third-Worldism"
I’ve noticed a lot of good MLs turning to “third-worldism”. From what I gather it’s still basically an internet phenomenon but nevertheless I’m curious as to what
Gift from /leftypol/
>>>/leftypol/204622
Revisionism will rule forever.
Russell Brand
>believes that the ruling class will just give up without a fight>believes that we can dissolve the inherent class antagonisms of capitalist society if we just angst enough about it
>uses radical rhetoric to be edgy when really he's just another spineless liberal
>entire political mental framework is derived from bourgeois prejudices and anti-authoritarian angst
>believes in hippie liberal bullshit
>rejects the necessity of class struggle within radical left political discourse
>doesnt believe that red terror is the violent manifestation of class struggle
>rejects the necessity of violence to advance the revolutionary proletariat
>rejects the necessity of the dictatorship of the proletariat to squash counter-revolution
>probably hasn't read anything by Marx beyond the Communist Manifesto
>if there was an actual revolution, he'd run away with his tail between his legs
>his book is garbled nonsense
>is a bourgeois wanker
So the question is, gulag or firesquad?
The Paris Commune of 1871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUR6kJVXwK0
Neato silent soviet film dramatisation of the Paris Commune from 1929 [it has English subs]
I'll dump some real images from the commune in this thread
Convince Me From Anarchism
Hello, /marx/. I am here today because I have been thinking, and now I want your guys' opinion. I have considered myself an anarchist-communist for a long time, but I have began to reconsider it, and considered the Marxist ideology too.
I have now been wanting to ask the question of the necessity of a state. As an anarchist, I obviously disagreed to the need of such to go from capitalism to communism. However, alongside my reconsiderations, I have also thought about the state and the DotP in general.
Thus, I have come here to see if you could try and turn me away from my anarchism. Give me your best shot.
National Socialism?
I was a strong Marxist-Leninist-Maoist for some time. But then I saw the greatness of National Socialism and wanted to ask if it would ever be possible for the Communists and National Socialists to have some form of relationship.The main reason Adolf Hitler was so hostile towards you people was due to most of the Marxists he met being Jewish puppets in Vienna. There's also the fact that the Marxists he debated lied and denied that they'd ever lost to him, when they so clearly did. I am in no way racist as most of the people on /Natsoc/ are, because I believe Adolf wasn't inherently racist. He was, in fact, very racially aware and open to other races. The simple fact is that he didn't like Jews.
Most jews (2/3) were sent out of Europe under the Haavera agreement between Adolf and Georg Kareski. So if you wanna blame anyone for the lack of Jews in Europe, half of it goes to good ole Georg. Not to mention that under the Nazi worker's party, worker's rights increased dramatically.
I am aware that privatization increased under Adolf, but this was simply due to the fact that when Adolf was put into power, WW2 started. And if you know anything about WW2, you'd know that the Polish government were encouraging Polish citizens to kill/steal/loot German residents in newly acquired territory.
History aside, I do believe that the National Socialists and Marxist-Leninist Communists have much in common. I'd like to speak more to some of you in hopes that we can reach an agreement. Maybe even start a joint-work on Socialism together?
me on the right
Elections under Hohxa
Descriptions of elections in Hoxha's Albania:
"At the first postwar elections in December 1945, voters faced a single list of candidates without opposition. Not surprisingly, it won an 86 percent majority. Subsequent referenda, designed to sidestep the high rate of illiteracy, gave voters a ball to drop into a 'Yes' or a 'No' slot. Through the former, it fell silently into a sack; through the latter, it rattled into a can."
https://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/195896/history-of-Europe/58483/A-climate-of-fear
The above is taken nearly verbatim from Richard J. Mayne's "The Recovery of Europe, 1945-1973 (aka "From Devastation to Unity") which is no surprise since he's a contributor to the article:
"A semblance of popular consent was supplied by referenda: but the ballot was hardly secret. Owing to the high rate of illiteracy, voters were given a ball to drop into a box with two openings marked respectively 'Yes' and 'No.' Through the 'Yes' slot, the ball fell silently into a sack; through the 'No' slot, it rattled into a tin can."
https://books.google.com/books?id=J0y5AAAAIAAJ
According to my notes, the above cites A.J.P. Taylor's "English History, 1914-1945" as a source, though I can't access the reference or the source online.
Here's a description provided by "a clerk in the fiscal administration of the town of Korçë," as relayed in testimony to the US House by Representative Charles Kersten in 1954:
"In the polling place there are two tables, on each of which is a ballot box. One box (decorated with flowers and flags), is the box of the Democratic Front; the other box is painted black and called 'the enemy's box' or 'box without candidates.' One member of the local electoral supervisory commission stands between the two boxes and explains to the voters: 'This is the box of Enver Hoxha, the box of the people. That one there is the box of the enemy. You can throw your vote in whichever one you like, but the one here is ours.'
"According to the regulations, voters are required to put their hand in both boxes and drop a small rubber ball in either one. The inside of each box is supposed to be coated with felt, to deaden the sound of the rubber ball; actually, the Communists in many cases have slipped off the felt coat of the 'enemy' box in order to learn the identity of those voting against the regime."
https://archive.org/details/communisttakeove545502unit
Mayne's politics aren't easy to pin down. He edited a conservative magazine, but also one associated with the Fabians, and another aligned with the anti-Stalinist left. His main focus seems to have been European integration. In any case he certainly wasn't friendly to "Marxism-Leninism."
Taylor's politics, assuming they're relevant (assuming he does provide a source for Mayne), seem to have been vaguely socialist. He was sympathetic to the USSR but not to Stalinism.
We can only guess at the politics of the Albanian clerk quoted by Kersten, but the quote was used for anti-communist ends and Kersten himself was certainly anti-communist.
Whether these accounts are the truth, contained only a kernel of truth, or were made up out of whole cloth, is up to the reader to decide, since Hoxha's Albania is a relic of history and can't be observed by us.
Whether it matters is another matter.
KEK
This thread:
>>>/leftypol/166351
And this get:
>>>/leftypol/166666
Focoism
What is Focoism, its theoretical base, and its practical implications.
Also, Che Guevara general
Free Will
Where do MLs stand on the "free-will vs. determinism" debate?
New Board Owner
I wish to end my time as owner of this board desu~Email me at desubong@8chan.co if you are interested in being the owner of this board, give me a brief summary of what you want for the board if possible desu~
Thanks desu~
I do not understand the mentality behind you all.
Why is is that you try to rely on the opposition not knowing anything of the flawed ideology that is communism, and then twist it to be something it is not? If that then fails you resort to blatant narcissism, you try to arbitrarily call the opposition barbaric and backwards. You then attempt to change the subject, trying to dodge all efforts by your opponent to engage in real argument.
You wear out the opposition rather than try to convince it of anything. Even then, if all else fails, you simply try to backtrack anything you say and call the opposition a liar for mentioning anything you previously said.
You ignore everything that is factual about your ideology and try to make it something it isn't. You ignore that communism was thought of by someone who never worked a day in his life, yet proclaim that communism is for the workers. You ignore that communism has been directly funded by those same big banking Jews that you "hate". You ignore that communism has killed and oppressed millions all in the attempt to "unite the classes", yet proclaim that communism is peaceful and supports freedom. You blame capitalism for the world's evils rather than the real problem: the international banking Jew.
These Jews work for state-funded monopolistic business, not free-market capitalism. In a free-market, there would be the state and the market. The state would be overhead, not the other way around such as it is the current state with lobbying.
The issue with all of this is you are all the puppets of these Jews. Your founder was Jewish. Their sole intent is to create ideologies that further divide so that it is easier to conquer. Communism is this ideology. There is no "true" communism, there is only Jewish communism.
Socialism as Inevitable
Do Marxist-Leninists see the triumph of communism as an inevitable consequence of capitalism or is it simply the most desirable solution for the working class.
What colour is Zizek's unseen Communist third pill?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-0VMnFmnL0
on this day, two years ago, Margaret Thatcher died
rip in peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4BCUWopQQ4
All praise your new Comrade-President!
Dearest Comrades, following the collapse of the old administration I have taken it upon myself to lead us into our glorious Communist future. The old Party administration was old and decrepit. Which is why as of now a new era is upon us.As you can see, this board had begun to die as a result of Stalinist ideals. Now under my leadership I will revive this board under the principles of Democratic Centralism guided by the Marxist-Leninist philosophy.
Dearest Comrades, let us all unite!
As of now I am issuing a number of preliminary reforms as authorised by the Politburo and Party Secretariat.
1) This board will now serve the dual function of fun and serious discussion.
2) I have removed the rule which said no shitposting. I consider it the right of every Comrade to be able to shitpost freely.
3) We are no longer "Anonymous", now we are "Comrade".
4) I have removed all wordfilters and undone all bans issued by the previous administration.
5) The administration will no longer ban people for disagreeing with it or being anti-Communist.
6) I will be introducing further reforms at the behest of the Party administration including CSS changes and more fun changes.
7) Remember to praise your Comrade-President.
Hey, /marx/, /anarcho/ here, what's this "gommie" everyone's talking about? Government commie?
Marxism is stupid
Is Jason Unruhe truly the Lord of the Tankies?
Can someone explain the Kronstadt rebellion with a Marxist perspective? I've been reading up on it a bit, but I want to know more.
Young Stalin
Stalin was one handsomea-ass motherfucker.
https://kageshi.com/rooms/peoplesembassyofbestkorea
Come over and discuss Marx,Lenin,or Trotsky.
But not that bastard Stalin.
BANNER THREAD
POST BANNERS ITTpic somewhat related
SYRIZA
So... a 'socialist' popular front has been voted parliamentary majority in Greece.Opinions? Personally I think people are putting too much faith into reformists nowadays in general, and this includes SYRIZA.
Cheika on the front page:DDD
can you guys pls explain this meme?
I live in a capitalist country, and the only contact I receive with comunist is the farc, so I don't have good relationships with marxists.
Why all comunist countries ended up as dictatorships with bloodshed?
Why all comunist paradises ended up failing?
Why Cuba and North korea are failing in human rights development and HDI?
Why Venezuela failed?
Why comunism didn't succeed but capitalism won? (I don't think capitalism including good socialism ideas means socialims won).
Why is capitalism the one that ended up bringing scientific archievements to the common plebian thanks to companies desires to profit of them?
Is there any comunist country today?
Is china and Russia still comunist?
Why do people still believe in Marx? Isn't he outdated theory by now? Isn't similar to people taking seriously darwin/newton books today?
Is there any summary of the Capital for plebs?
what other book should I read to understand marx if I'm a pleb?
What are some good communist anime?
In a few months (I aim for February) I intend to run a forum game set in Albania during WWII. It would start in July 1941. Besides Albania proper, Kosovo and some other neighboring regions will be represented.
It'll be an actual game with lists of actions and chances of success for them all that (not just whatever the GM thinks makes sense.) You play as notable individuals leading whatever forces existed back then (whether communist or not), so for instance you could be a partisan leader in Kosovo, an Italian military commander, a member of the anti-communist "resistance" in Albania proper, etc.
The gameplay is obviously centered on combat, but building up political support and logistics play a role too.
Any interest?
Dubček is best gommie
desubong pls r8 my OC
I bought a che guevara t shirt because commercialising communism is beautiful and gommies are pretty gay
Filthy gommies :DDDDDDDDDDDDD
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/int/ernationale
Our first act since annexation of /marx/ should be finishing the /int/ernationale. I updated the lyrics a bit.Arise, all prisoners of moderation!
Arise, shitposters of Perth!
Because Krauts impede liberation,
And there’s a better /int/ in birth!
It is time to win our liberation,
Arise, you burgers, no more in thrall!
The board will rise on new foundations,
We have been naught, we shall be all!
Chorus 2x:
So, now, /int/olerants, come rally,
And the last fight let us face!
The /Int/ernationale,
Unites the "white" race!
We see through Kraut disinformation:
Designs to turn us into bore.
But soon, the jihadis in formation
Will spam their board and fight no more.
And if those ruleshits think it's their right
To ban us to their dream,
They'll see the power of our own might;
It's time to post a dank meme.
Chorus 2x
Just we, the shitposters of the world-wide,
The mighty army of the burger,
To own the planet have a true right —
But for the Krauts — never!
For too long we've endured Nazism,
Too long we've been ignored.
Farewell to days of Laus' autism!
The /int/ dawn brings a bright new board!
Chorus 2x
COMMUNIST MEMES
ITT commie works on US history.
* History of the Communist Party USA (from 1952, also talks about 18th and 19th century radical democrats and leftists too): http://bookzz.org/book/988561/2c3642
* Outline Political History of the Americas (covers North and South America from pre-colonial times to late 1940s): http://bookzz.org/book/872863/167313
* American Capitalism: 1607-1800: https://archive.org/details/AmericanCapitalism16071800
* The First American Revolution: https://archive.org/details/TheFirstAmericanRevolution
* The Struggle for American Freedom: The First Two Hundred Years: https://archive.org/details/TheStruggleForAmericanFreedom
* Lenin's Impact on the United States: https://archive.org/details/LeninsImpactOnTheUnitedStates
* Lenin on the United States of America: https://archive.org/details/LeninOnTheUnitedStatesOfAmerica
FACCISM FOR THE WORKING CLASS
FACCISM FOR THE WORKING CLASSFACCISM FOR THE WORKING CLASS
FACCISM FOR THE WORKING CLASS
Communist/Socialist Flags thread
>>>/flags/161 Gommie Flags thread ;-)
ded board
Greetings comrades, a peace offering from >>>/leftypol/
/Christian/ here
Hey guys, /Christian/ here.Went to the library today only to find that the book I was looking for was lost. It was 'strength to love' a series of sermons by Martin Luther King.
Anyway, ITT: What does /Marx/ think of Thomas J. Hagerty?
The Reverend Friar Thomas Joseph Hagerty (ca. 1862–1920s?) was an American Roman Catholic priest and trade union activist. Hagerty is remembered as one of the founding members of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), as author of the influential Preamble to the Constitution of the IWW, and as the creator of "Hagerty's Wheel," a frequently reproduced illustration depicting the interrelation of the IWW's constituent industrial unions.
Hagerty abruptly abandoned the radical movement shortly after the formation of the IWW, adopting the pseudonym "Ricardo Moreno" and working as a Spanish teacher and an oculist. After 1920 Hagerty lived on the streets of Chicago in conditions of dire poverty, eking out a meager existence as a beggar.
Activist priest:
Little is known about the early years of Thomas Joseph Hagerty, prior to his completion of seminary training in 1895. He is believed to have become a Marxist about 1892 and to have spent his early life attempting to rectify the teachings of the church and the socialist movement throughout his early life.
Hagerty's first posting was to St. Agatha's Parish in Chicago in 1895, where he served as assistant to the rector. He was assigned to St. Joseph's Church in Cleburne, Texas in the Diocese of Dallas in 1897 before being promoted to rector of Our Lady of Victory Church in Paris, Texas in 1901. He was transferred to Our Lady of Sorrows Church in Las Vegas, New Mexico later that same year.
As a Catholic priest in the Southwestern United States Hagerty came into frequent contact with Mexican railroad workers, the mistreatment of whom by their employers angered him. Finding little socialist propaganda to be available in Spanish, Hagerty began translating a number of short works from German, French, and English. Hagerty was warned by the railroads to stay out of labor relations, he told a messenger "Tell the people who sent you here that I have a brace of Colts and can hit a dime at twenty paces."
Upon arriving in New Mexico in 1901, Hagerty became associated with the American Labor Union (ALU) and the Western Federation of Miners (WFM). During the summer of 1902, Hagerty went on a tour of mining camps in Colorado with Socialist Party of America (SPA) orator Eugene V. Debs, attempting to recruit the impoverished miners to the ALU and the SPA. This blatantly political activity brought Hagerty into conflict with his superiors, resulting in his suspension by his archbishop.
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answer me fucking this
>there are people here right now believing evil fat white cis males, with bit top hats in tuxedos rule the worldhow can one board be that delusional, oh wait, marxism is fucking retarded and all who like /marx/ are toooooo
Given the consistent failure of communism everywhere, what keeps you sucking marxs 1 inch dick still today?
you have to be literally retarded to be a marxist today
give me one reason why!
protip: YOU CANT
WHY
how is it people still think being marxist is edgy today? literally all of society is built on leftist marxism, you stupid che shirts wont help you looking any cooler virgin autists...?
Shitlord army here
>mfw day of the rope>marxists hanged
>crippled hanged
>dykes hanged
>kikes hanged
>LGBTWTFags hanged
>mfw all who browse /marx/ daily are some or all of these
SUCK TO BE YOU
shitlord incoming
Dind't daddy love you when you were little or maybe to much, now you use /marx/ism as a sort of escapism?
Hey /marx/ists.
In the last weeks I kinda read up on Joey and I think that alot of what is presented today facts about him is bs.
Holodomor obviously was not forced, created or ignored by the party, the kulaks deserved what they got and collectivisation was necessary.
Still, Stalin liquidated nearly everyone who was in the head of the party in Lenin's time, executed at least 40.000 people and changed the parties structure so much that the development of bureaucracy was a natural result.
Also that Katyn massacre was pretty shit.
So, even he wasn't as bad as the western media makes him out to be, he was still a giant faggot. Why do you still support his actions?
/natsoc/
hey marxfagscome over at >>>/natsoc/ and debate or do an AMA. we diversity now
What do you think of autonomist marxism?
What do you guys think of degeneracy?
its a bomb
Gift from /leftpol/
What do you make of Yanis Varoufakis (greeks finance minister)?
As Engels points out in The Peasant War in Germany:
>The worst thing that can befall a leader of an extreme party is to be compelled to take over a government in an epoch when the movement is not yet ripe for the domination of the class which he represents and for the realisation of the measures which that domination would imply. What he can do depends not upon his will but upon the sharpness of the clash of interests between the various classes, and upon the degree of development of the material means of existence, the relations of production and means of communication upon which the clash of interests of the classes is based every time. What he ought to do, what his party demands of him, again depends not upon him, or upon the degree of development of the class struggle and its conditions. He is bound to his doctrines and the demands hitherto propounded which do not emanate from the interrelations of the social classes at a given moment, or from the more or less accidental level of relations of production and means of communication, but from his more or less penetrating insight into the general result of the social and political movement. Thus he necessarily finds himself in a dilemma. What he can do is in contrast to all his actions as hitherto practised, to all his principles and to the present interests of his party; what he ought to do cannot be achieved. In a word, he is compelled to represent not his party or his class, but the class for whom conditions are ripe for domination. In the interests of the movement itself, he is compelled to defend the interests of an alien class, and to feed his own class with phrases and promises, with the assertion that the interests of that alien class are their own interests. Whoever puts himself in this awkward position is irrevocably lost. We have seen examples of this in recent times. We need only be reminded of the position taken in the last French provisional government by the representatives of the proletariat, though they represented only a very low level of proletarian development. Whoever can still look forward to official positions after having become familiar with the experiences of the February government — not to speak of our own noble German provisional governments and imperial regencies — is either foolish beyond measure, or at best pays only lip service to the extreme revolutionary party.
What makes a Marxist?
Do you have to agree with Marx's account of historical materialism and all the rest of that Hegelian "stages of history" stuff, to be a Marxist? I consider myself a Socialist and I obvious respect Marx's work on politics and economics but some of his earlier philosophy is pretty questionable.
Advert Thread thread
Thread for deletion of advertisement of other boards was locked. pic unrelated>>2020
eh, I don't know
They are a little annoying, but if hell, we would be hypocrites if we did. Our board is small as it is. If it stays on-topic to /marx/ism, then we should keep it; if the thread is just shilling for a /leftypol/ clone or something that has little or nothing to do with radical-leftist politics, then delete.
>chose 'merely delete'
I made a new board where leftists can exchange information on insurrectionary tactics and improvised weapons.
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/sp/ babby GET
Wade Davis is a superstructure himself.
Dear board admin,
Our names say "Anonymous", when they should say "Comrade" -- can you please fix this oversight, Комиссар?
Can the mods consolidate the FIVE different stickies? It gets tedious scrolling past all five every time I visit here.
(Picture first thing that came up on GIS, do not take me for a /pol/ antagoniser)
Contradictions
Hello, /marx/ists.I have recently begun doing a bit more research into Marxism and, subsequently, communism. While I don't really consider myself a full-fledged card carrying red (yet), I'm not an antagonistic fuck and legitimately enjoy discussing and learning Marxist theory.
One thing that I have started learning about recently is contradictions, specifically, contradictions inherent in economic systems per the ideas of Marx. I've read and seen examples of these contradictions within slave, feudal, and capitalist economies, but I have not seen any examples or read any literature on contradictions within socialist or communist systems.
Is this because communism has never been achieved and we, therefore, have no way of knowing what any contradictions within the system may be (if they even exist)? Along this line of thinking, aren't countries like the USSR, PRC, Cuba, DPRK (pre-Juche madness), etc. etc. examples of socialist states (socialism existing as a transitory period between capitalism and communism). If so, then what are the contradictions within socialism as found in these countries?
Again, like I said, I am fairly new and have only really started getting into Marxism so I apologize if I have not posed the question properly or have a misunderstanding of the concept of contradictions.
MEME THREAD
>marxist meme threadGO
Supplemental Non-Marxist Writings
Alright, so I want to start reading Capital, and I know of the marxist supplements to Capital (David Harvey, Wolff's lectures, the study guides, etc), but what I want to know what should I read before reading Capital so I could get a good background on Marxist Economics, Historical Materialism, Dialectics, and Marx's(and Engel's) writings in general as well as better understanding Capital when I get to it.You know, stuff by Feuerbach, Hegel, Ricardo, and the Utopian Socialists, to name a few.
I'm new-ish to Marxism, can someone help me understand the difference between Marxism-Leninism and Trotskyism or point me in the direction of resources that could help?
Unrelated, but I heard (without a source provided) this picture isn't actually Stalin, it's a model that the USSR passed off as Stalin for propaganda, is that true?
STALIN STALIN STALIN STALIN
STALIN APPRECIATION THREAD, GO!
Recommend
Hey, I sympathize for the ideals communism but am unread about this topic.What works would you recommend me to study first, i.e. what directions of communism (Trotskyism, Marxism-Leninism, Marxism-Leninism etc.)
Also, can you tell me what the main differences between Stalin and Trotsky were?
I see that this is rather a pro-Stalin board, but please try to give me a neutral view on the happenings and their differences.
I would really appreciate some advice.
So what do you guys think about the fact that this man's ideology led to the deaths of atvleast 45,000,000 people?
Traditional Left-Right Paradgim
I created a political paradgim using the traditional left-right paradgim. I want other people's opinions on it. Tell me if I left anyone out, or got something wrong.
Do any of you own Soviet/communist memorabilia? Personally I love flags, the symbolic power behind flags is strong, evident by their usage ever since mankind was able to evolve society. Upon seeing a flag, you are immediately reminded of what it stands for.
>my Soviet flag
Socialism in One Country
What should I read to get a good understanding of Stalin's thought (specifically socialism in one country)
Propaganda art thread
Let's do it
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/german-neo-nazis-embrace-vegan-cooking-techno-music-hipster-clothes-n271576
>nazi hipster vegans
wtf
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What happened to the Marxist skype group?
MY EYES
The IRA
What does /marx/ think of the IRA
http://soviet.booru.org/index.php
Has a good collection of soviet propaganda images
Just thought I would share
Heil THE HAMMER AND SIKLE
Communism at its best!
Trotsky thread
Trotsky appreciation thread
Mein Neger Karl Marx
Karl is ma nigga and my broI <3 Karl Marx
Angry Serb Thread
This is from the "Phresh Communist Memes from the Soviet Collective Meme Farm" page on Facebook. I gotta say that these little ideology jokes went from satire to more or less spot on debunks of revisionist garbage. So, this thread is dedicated to Titoism and all the angry Serbians that support it. Thoughts /marx/?
To celebrate the defeat of the imperialist aggression of the so called "The Interview" film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkKSMJ8vf18>Many years have passed since Wolmi Island was in the flames with its heroic soldiers, with only 4 guns, fighting the 50,000 strong US aggressor forces which thronged the sea of Inchon in September 1950. But their exploits remain vivid in the memory of the people. What did they devote their youth for?
>The quintessential DPRK revolutionary war film, depicting the famous battle of Wolmi Island, this film fully utilises the cinematic representation of Kim Il Sung as the definitive icon of the North Korean nation past and present.
Comrades! Proletariat of the world! We stand at a time crisis!
We have been scattered into many small groups and been coopted by petty-bourgeoisie agitators! We are slowly losing support. The time has come to strike back!
We must spread the message and we must keep strong in the orthodoxy.
These identity-politics fanatics, they are a fad. They'll disappear eventually. In the mean time we must concentrate on looking inwards, and maintain political orthodoxy amongst our own ranks.
We must hold speeches in our local areas and make videos on youtube.
We must make charities and political movements!
A few people at /leftypol/ have decided to go together and create a new forum, where we coordinate our effforts.
The fight is not lost, comrades. We musn't give up. Let's make initiative to try and persuade the left to return to what is should actually be about.
Hell, I don't care for anarchist ideology, but if we could get the identity-politics out of anarchism, I might even consider them allies (if they would quit the violence).
The left wing of my country's parlairment has also been hijacked by these reactionary jackals. I see workers flocking to the right, feeling alienated by the left. I am disheartened by this.
We must return to political and ideological orthodoxy.
5th internationale? Anyone? The return to true marxist ideology? Taking the left-wing back?
Doing something unlike those twitter-activists?
Unite, proletariat of the world! You have nothing to lose but your chains!
http://cefi.boards.net/
>>>/leftypol/
Old Robey
Does anyone have a link towards, or know of any good books that have (prefered to be collected works) the writings of the Jacobins? Preferably Saint-Just, Robespierre, and Marat.
>you will never have a marxist professor this awesome
;___;
Stalin - crime allegations
What does /marx/ say about the allegations against Stalin to be one of the worst mass murderers in the world?Some of the allegations:
1. The Great Purge
2. Anti-semitic murders (1948)
3. The Holodomor, which is also used to point at the failed economic system of the Soviet Union.
Does /marx/ admit that this happened, but justifies the reasons?
Or do you hold this for Western/Capitalist propaganda?
I support communism and sympathize with a lot of the Soviet ideologies, but how would you argue against this?
Comrades, what's your opinion on firearms ownership & right of self-defense?
Senate Participation
We at the Revolutionary Marxist Party (RMT) invite our /marx/ comrades to join us at /sen/.We base ourselves as an explicitly Marxist revolutionary organisation and invite all self-identifying Marxists to join our organisation.
We invite participation from all tendencies of Marxism and wish to provide open discussion and debate. The Revolutionary Marxist Party in /sen/ provides a means for this without middle class anarchist politics getting in the way.
DESU!!!!!!
What does /marx/ aka /hoxha/ think about the lack of democracy in socialist Albania?
Not only quotes please.
Anti-fascist shit
I just spammed the shit out of this Falange Facebook page.Anyone else want to join in on the fun?
https://www.facebook.com/PNFDugoatDangal
To the board admin(s), is it possible to get an ID thing instituted in the threads? The only reason I ask is because next month I'm going to get a Soviet book scanned and I'd like the masses of the Internet to vote on which book that'd be.
I know it's not foolproof against "samefagging" but it helps. If yes then you could remove it after the voting is done (it would end no later than January 1.)
What's the best way to convert liberals to Marxism?
Hey, /marx/
non-marxist here (yeah, what am I doing here anyway?)
I didn't read any marxist literature, but I just wanna a answer.
Do socialism require a capitalist society to be destroyed (it was what I deduced from what I know about it)
Or it could be done "from scratch"?
Thanks, comrades!
Revolutionary Terror
What is /marx/'s opinions on revolutionary terror as a means to political end and social transformation?
why isn't this board tagged?
I posted this on /natsoc/ as well
What are /marx/'s thoughts on National Bolsjevism???
Alright guys, are we going to stay on /leftypol/ or /marx/.
If we stay divided then it will only hurt both groups.
http://strawpoll.me/2632324
How does it feelc that much of the gaming culture now hate you.
PS: Board colours are shit!
/noose/
In light of the recent migration I have decided that there really ought to be a proper news board in the spirit of older times.I have reclaimed >>>/noose/ for this purpose. All threads must start with a news article, using archive.today (or anything close) is highly encouraged. I would really like to keep this as a free speech zone as much as possible. Please come and make sure your points of view are represented,,
this lack of gay porn is terrible
This is my first time posting and I had an idea
Could freelancing be used as a tool for communism?
I'm writing my first politial book and I think we could pull a new age of communism that can survive both politically and financially using a freelancing system to not only get work done around a union (assuming we have a country that is using this) and boosting industrys without causing true competition.
Lets say the the union is low on lumber we move our attention to the lumber guild ( I say guild because it would be a lumber company that is pretty much run {powerwise} by the union.)
So not only do we get a boost in the economy (brining more money into the country) Boosts living standards by a little bit (Large amounts of people will get paid or somekinda reward for their efforts)
I'm just spit balling more ideas with freelancing since I've made my own freelance guild and I've been helping out as many people as I can. Finding jobs for friends,strangers and even a few homeless people that had degrees in english or math but just simply coudn't find a job.
What does /marx/ think of a communism themed freelancing? is it possible or am I really just a half hearted communist/capitalist
DPRK Constitution
>CHAPTER V. FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS Article 74.>Copyright, inventions and patents shall be protected by law.
>CHAPTER V. FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS Article 78.
>Marriage and the family shall be protected by the State.
>The State pays great attention to consolidating the family, the basic unit of social life.
The words speak for themselves.
>CHAPTER V. FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS Article 67.
>Citizens are guaranteed freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, demonstration and association.
>CHAPTER V. FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS Article 75.
>Citizens have freedom of residence and travel.
If a law is just for show, why even put it up? I mean, making legal exceptions to a rule within the Constitution is one thing, but having the law, and not following it through makes it simply an unnecessary rule. It also creates a dialectical contradiction between the law and the reality, making a "revolution" or "counter-revolution" all the closer.
>CHAPTER V. FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS Article 83.
>Work is the noble duty and honour of a citizen.
>Citizens shall willingly and conscientiously participate in work and strictly observe labour discipline and the working hours.
Telling people that what they're doing is by their own choice, and telling them they have to do it means it isn't much of a choice, now is it?
>CHAPTER V. FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS Article 66.
>A person who has been disenfranchised by a Court decision and a person legally certified insane do not have the right to elect or to be elected.
Who decides on whether a person is legallly certified insane? This can easily be abused by those in power to silence political opponents.
>CHAPTER VI. STATE ORGAN SECTION 1. THE SUPREME PEOPLE’S ASSEMBLY Article 99.
>Deputies to the Supreme People’s Assembly are guaranteed inviolability. >No deputy to the Supreme People’s Assembly can be arrested or punished without the consent of the Supreme People’s Assembly or, when it is not in session, without the consent of its Presidium, unless he is caught in action.
Unnecessary granting of privileges to those that do not need it is a signifier of bourgeois deviation.
>CHAPTER II. THE ECONOMY Article 37.
>The State shall encourage institutions, enterprises and organizations in our country to joint ventures and cooperation of enterprise with foreign corporations and individuals as well as the establishment and operation of a variety of enterprise in special economic zones.
>CHAPTER I POLITICS ARTICLE 10.
>The State shall revolutionize all the members of society, and assimilate them to the working class by intensifying the ideological revolution, and shall turn the whole of society into a collective, united in a comradely way.
The ruling party of North Korea advocates for the creation of "special economic zones" funded by foreign bourgeois compradors and "foreign corporations." These "special economic zones" are vaguely reminiscent of the 'special economic zones' of mainland China, created as a precursor by Deng Xiaoping to capitalist restoration.
In the previous sentence, the Constitution stresses the peasant-worker alliance, but the next statement advocates the "revolutionization" and "assimili[zation]" of "all members of society," including not just the national bourgeoisie, but the comprador bourgeoisie as well, into associating themselves to the working class through the "intensification" of propaganda, and not through economical liquidation via class struggle. In other words, the WP of North Korea advocates for class collaborationism.
http://web.archive.org/web/20090709013626/http://www.kcckp.net/en/great/constitution.php
(image is of the Mass Games)
So, what is marxism?
and why all these marxist-lenenist-trotsky-marxist-leninist-somefucker labels?
plz explain communism to me thx
Will India be the next great Marxist power?
What does /marx/ think of the Naxals?
Lenin Book?
Does anyone have .pdf's for the 3 volumes of Lenin's Selected Works?I tried transcribing text from Marxists.org, but I don't have the time, you know.
preferably the "Lenin Selected Works" three volume edition from Progress Publishers
Marxism is a good concept on paper, but I'm sorry to remind you that it can virtually never exist. It will never work.
>inb4 shill
>inb4 ban
Enver Hoxha: The Thread
To get you started:* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Albanian_split
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Albanian_split
You can find Hoxha and Albanian materials in the following links:
* http://michaelharrison.org.uk/albania-pamphlets-and-magazines/albania-today-political-and-informative-review-2/ (note the "Albania" category on top)
* http://www.enverhoxha.ru/enver_hoxha_books_on_foreign_languages.htm
* http://www.enverhoxha.ru/thematic_archive.htm
* http://www.enverhoxha.ru/history_of_the_party_of_labour_of_albania.htm
* https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22kocotosi%40gmail.com%22&sort=-publicdate (bunch of Albanian works here mixed with some other non-Albanian works)
* https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1ZP6ZurgOg-bTNNWmlzaWJTaTg&tid=0B1ZP6ZurgOg-REtjWmJoeVRJUlE
JESUS CHRIST ADMIN
MAKE THE BACKGROUND BLACK
USE RED AND YELLOW HIGHLIGHTS WITH A BLACK BACKGROUND.
STOP BURNING MY RETINA
JESUS FUCK
/leftypol/ cancer
So, I'm a former /leftypol/ poster, but I've noticed lately that the board is nothing but retarded anarchists and trot-revisionists/liberals. They always bash /marx/ as being /aidf/ like that's a bad thing, but meanwhile they have nothing to actually retort Hoxhaism or Marxism-Leninism.So /marx/, opinions on /liberalpol/?
http://z13.invisionfree.com/eRegime/index.php?act=idx
I figure a few lefties may be interested in a forum game set in the mid-1930s. You play as a country and it's more or less freeform RP between the GM and players, but still. As far as leftist and left-wing countries go: the USSR, Mexico, the Spanish Republic and Tannu Tuva are taken. Of course you can play as a non-left-wing country if you want.
Also the forum is used for forum games in general, so there's a few others going on at the moment too, like one about the Waterloo military campaign.
Ryan Dawson Thread
What is /marx/'s opinion on Native American Indian Activist Ry Dawson's youtube channel?He did a very good 10/10 video exposing the Zionist and Imperialist agenda in Syria here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4vD6JpJAFI
He also created a much longer 1 hour long video explaining the entire history of imperialist US foreign policy here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N3TJXTtE4g
And the link to his youtube channel where he speaks out against Neo-Con Republicans and Zionist imperialists is here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Rys2sense
I don't think that Ry Dawson himself is a Marxist or a leftist but I think that leftists such as yourself can find useful arguments against imperialism in these videos that might help your cause. For example, somebody who posts here could create a new youtube channel where they take Ry Dawson's ideas about imperialism and Zionism and "reblog" them or make their own videos containing these same basic facts about oil pipelines and capitalist imperialism in the middle east but filter these facts through a Marxist perspective and use them to promote a Marxist agenda.
Please let me know what you think about these videos!
What's your opinion on the Kronstadt rebellion?
Anarchists wanting more powers for the workers or international influences trying to undermine the revolution?
Was Jason Unruhe wrong about the FRSO?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVHQ1ln4zr8&list=UUgr5cilTJPILaRYS7f_TkVANot wrong in the factual sense, or even in the moral sense. But the dialectical.
I would've made a video but I did not want to imply that I am challenging my brother. What I do wonder though is can MaoistRebel blame FRSO? Was this not the proper thing to do not to completely turn against someone in the party rather find a way to keep him within but remove the bad PR?
Is not the point of the vanguard to put it above the laws and morals of the imperialist country? If we're not willing to do that because of X or Y, where does it end? We need an uncompromising fortitude within the party in order to hold ourselves against the bourgeois system.
Feel free to agree or disagree.
Post em, comrades.
Communists have no honor
Are there any PDF's of any of the works of Nobuo Okishio online in English?
Especially this: http://www.amazon.com/Nobuo-Okishio-Political-Dynamische-Wirtschaftstheorie/dp/3631435584
Comrades, I was thinking.
So Dialectical Materialism, is a way to reconcile a contradiction. if we have system wich consist of A and B and there is and inherent contradiction between the two there will be a swap to a system with less contradiction.
So Stalin was a marxist, and he knew that shit. What if one day he was sitting st his table, pipe and all. and he realized(found a shortcut). Why I dont just take out B and have only A, no contradiction! Then he called Beria….
tl;dr
dialectial materialism killed communism of 20th century
Since we're all comrades here, and it's a common goal for us to achieve obligatory equality; what do you think of the SJW agenda?
So, who will assume the role of the pigs in your Orwellian delusions?
Oink Oink.
thougths?
Wanna hear your opinion
So I would like to ask why exactly marxism is a good or bad thing.Although I am not a marxist myself I do like to hear the opinions of others.
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I identify as a pro-Ukrainian but recently i talked to a Russian who fought with the rebels and he told me that the Ukrainians have used phosphorous and chemical weapons on the rebels. I didn't believe him at first but he showed me pictures of them using it.
Not 100% sure they were legit but it made me think. Anyone have any evidence that this is true or false?
as "reality" becomes more dematerialized and dorks detach from "reality" does idealistic dialectic becomez moar appropriate methodology for interpreting the driving force behind history instead of raw materialist dialectic?
So, what's the reason for not discussing marxism in /leftypol/?
I ask because I really believe in the value of debate, and every ideology being segregated to its own board will only create a thousand echo chambers and no interesting developement.
What are your opinions of North Korea?
Can I interject for a moment
Why can't you Shabbos Goys realize that Communism have always been and still is a tool to further control of the Jewish Power structure that have had an increasing iron grip over the world since the Masonic revolt of 1789 and have had almost absolute control of it since 1945 with the deafeat of the Last great resistance against the Judeo-Masonic world order.Jewish banker Jacob Schiff, A "Bourgeoisie Capitalist" and a FreeMason of the B'nai B'rith Jewish only lodge funded the revolution in russia spearheaded by Jews Freemasons of the B'nai B'rith Jew-exlusive Lodge.
Most of you think Communism is an ideology dedicated to championing workers and the poor. This was an incredibly successful ruse which manipulated millions.
Behind this artifice, "Communism" is devoted to concentrating all wealth and power in the hands of the global central banking cartel by disguising it as State power.
In the 20th century there was a group of people who did everthing they tried to stop. Like a central bank in public hands, not private. Issuing debt/intrest free currency into it's own economy. Barter Trading, banning FreeMasonry, decreasing gun regulations. I'm pretty sure you know who I'm talking about.
Instead of raging at me here. At least take your time to watch the Embedded Documentary and read the two books I have linked.
https://ia700500.us.archive.org/23/items/UnderTheSignOfTheScorpion/sign_scorpion.pdf
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf
Is there any way to raidcalize the left in the United States? I used to think you simply needed an agressive movement and growth on the side of the radical right and then a counter movement would open up on the left. However, the Tea party happened, and then the left did absolutly jack shit.
Most people in the United States, especially young people, seem to simply not care or understand whats actually happening in the political sphere.
Is there anything to get the American youth seriously support leftist ideas? Instead of either supporting the far right republicans or the moderate right democrats?
Ramiz Alia
What is your thoughts on Ramiz? Was he a revisionist?
>believing in utopian societies
Hi comrades, can anyone here explain to me the theory of surplus value? I cba reading Das Kapital and I'm currently reading a few other texts by marx so would be great if you guys could help.
how does it feel knowing from now on nationalism and fascism is rising in europe
meanwhile all communists are just faggy manlets?
So, tell me Comrades, how did we go from THIS…
Lenin is my waifu.
explain to me how communism is not fascism
lets face it, communism is just an extreme form of homosex bondage fetishism.
why not just make /marx/ into /lgbt/ ?
https://8chan.co/sen/
should we register a party and participate?
or should we not participate in order to retain our revolutionary potential?
Honest opinion on GG please
Hey guys, not judging, but I'm having an argument with a friend of mine about GG.He says it's just people covering their asses for being shitty and not wanting to back down.
I say he's a dumbass and this is just the typical cultural colonialism of the bourgeois and their ultimate goal is to control political discourse in the subculture.
Basically, I think they won the culture war and are going around mopping up the resistance and burning the bodies.
What say you guys?
fuck you
I do not define myself as a Marxist politically (due to being a privileged fuck), however I do believe in Marxist theory and analysis. I have a question for you.
If I understand you fellows correctly, there is no market, because if there is market its not socialism anymore. How do yoou distribute stuff then? I would like to ask this in a very practical way. If there is no market on which products compete, how do you differentiate as a buyer to get a quality product?
If you have 3 computers each of them is a different quality and you have 3 people how would you distribute those computers?
and ofc would you as a state who owns factories promote quality of products or force quality down for sake of equality of products.
like the biggest thing that makes me reluctant to support Marxist agenda is. That old people who lived in communist era here (when it was still hardline communism) tell me that Coffee was shit, and cigarettes were shit and chocolade was bad in particular. not all things were of low quality but compared to the qualities created by artisans in neighboring countries and even industrial products that competed on markets, it was shit.
Because to me it is kind of lost cause if, when you abolish private property, you diminish the quality of products. To the point when people start smuggling cigarettes and chocolate into the country.
>inb4 bourgeois delicacies are bad
I see the word equality thrown around this board quite often. It has become a buzzword quite recently, and I would like to know what your idea of equality is.
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Not only do Marxists completely fail at economics and at beating capitalism, you guys completely failed at making a board that is pleasant to look at
this place seriously rapes my eyes, what the fuck is wrong with you people?
Yugoslavia thread
Only Socialist system that actually worked.
Only people who got killed were filthy nazi collaborants
post vids pics and other respects
Ask a former Communist/Anarcho-Collectivist anything.
I am currently a fascist, just to let you know.
Were either Stalin or Mao assassinated? And what is the story with Lin Bao's death?
I opened a board for theoretical discussion about marxism, political and cultural philosophy, and other related things and if anyone interested feel free to visit :)
Gold Standard
Come for my capital little faggots if you have balls