No.1
Welcome comrades.
No.2
GOD I LOVE BEING RED
No.3
can't read shit. GLory to marx
No.12
To Admin: will you be dedicating a lot to this board? We need someone to create banners
No.15
>>12Yeah I intend to moderate it. I don't know how to appoint other moderators but I would probably like to at some point. And yes post banners plox.
No.16
I like this board.
No.23
>>15>>15You simply give them your boards password. You should have it from the moment you created this board.
No.26
yo comrades
Cool board, hope it gets big! But seriously though, change the colors, please. This will scare poeple away.
No.27
>>26What colors would you have, then?
No.28
>>23I see. Which priviliages will they have or not have compared to the creator?
No.29
>>27Just something a bit more discreet. Normal Yotsuba B looks pretty good. "ffeeee" is the color code for the red equivalent of the Yotsuba B-background. Some darker red for the squares, perhaps?
No.30
>>29If people have a problem they can always use the buttons in the bottom right.
No.31
>>30Of course. I just think that if we want this to be the coolest leftist place on the internet we should give people a nice first impression.
No.32
>>31How about this:
a beige background
red squares
white text
No.33
>>32I think I'll keep it like this for now.
No.34
>>33Okay, I don't have a problem. I like this scheme regardless
No.35
>>32That seems pretty nice! Here's another vote in favor.
No.37
this colour scheme is incinerating my eyes
No.38
>>35>>33
>but greentext is barely readable No.39
No.75
This board hurt my eyes.
Are my eyes counter revolutionary?
No.85
NOT ENOUGH RED, COMRADE
No.102
AM I DOING IT RIGHT GUYS
No.127
>>85>>102RED WILL FREE US FROM ALIEGNATION No.146
GTF back to
>>>/pol/ faggots
No.189
Color scheme is pretty ugly. Unfortunately, I don't think that red is very suitable for web design.
No.323
>>189But it's the best for ruling a country
No.419
> mfw Marxist and Government Major
> mfw work for a right-wing American Congressman
> mfw he has no idea
> mfw McCarthy was right
No.420
>>419lol. I can hardly imagine that feel.
No.464
>>1You should change Anonymouse to Comrade.
No.648
Op should change "anonymous" to "comrade" or "tovarish"
No.649
im stupid
No.927
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Now this is a good board, stylish too! Fuck the rejects at /natsoc/ death to Fascism! I feel at home comrades.
From Kobane to Donetsk communism is the best!
No.930
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>>927Right on.
>Donetskbut they aren't comrades anon, they're russian nationalists. Pictured is one of their assemblies.
No.931
>>930When they call themselves
People's republics and wave soviet flags, they are doing so in a nationalistic sense, They associate it moreso with soviet union than the cause of communism
No.934
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>>930Hmm, yeah I was curious about this. Does that salute mean the same thing to Easterners such as Russians? It was pretty common in the West, even in the US, before WWII.
No.935
>>934It means nationalism/fascism basically everywhere.
even before it was used by the nazi's it was synonymous with patriotism
No.936
>>935Have the PRD actually done anything socialist so far?
No.937
>>936They're have socialists among them, but they aren't socialist from what I understand, they simply want to become part of russia, the majority of the defense forces are russian nationalists.
No.938
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>>937It doesn't help that they allied with the polish fascist group
falanga and are supported by numerous notable fascist bloggers on tumblr and the like one such reblogging PRD images with the caption “fighting against world jewry and Judeo-US owned Ukrainian Government.”
Hardly socialist retoric, there.
No.940
>>938Maybe that's a united front, heh.
No.1059
After spending a bit on Leftypol I've had it with liberal morons and anarchists. Same garbage as what became of a certain socialism sub on plebbit that didn't take a strong socialist and materialist stance on matters.
Goddam idealist scum ruin everything.
No.1060
>>1059Right on
I used to be an anarchist but holy shit american
anarchists piss me off
No.1063
>>1060American anarchism was a relatively cool thing about 100 years ago when the IWW was a real working-class movement, the Haymarket martyrs were on the minds of every leftist, etc.
Then when the October Revolution happened various anarchists, syndicalists and socialists realized Lenin was correct and became communists. Syndicalism declined into nothingness, anarchism became a shadow of its former self (and IWW basically died for all intents and purposes, modern IWW has as much in common with it as the New Black Panthers do to the original Black Panthers), and the Socialist party degenerated into a reformist organization which apologized for US imperialism after Debs died.
No.1067
>>1063The IWW and ukranian anarchists were badass, the spanish syndicalists weren't
that bad either
But the anarchist movement in america today is shit in all directions, malatesta would be disgusted
No.1082
>>1067On the Ukrainian (i.e. Makhnovist) anarchists see:
http://www.isreview.org/issues/53/makhno.shtml (even though it's a Trot analysis, it's basically the same as ML)
The Spanish anarchists were different. During the civil war the PCE line was to work with them, and in fact Durruti worked with Soviet military advisers and in his last radio address even repeated the anti-fascist slogan "They shall not pass!" So when he died the PCE and Soviet press mourned him.
No.1756
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No.1757
ILOVEMESOMECOMMUNISM
No.2063
Well, I think I am a communist now.
No.2117
>>927>kobane>communistWhat started as a fight for Kurdish people has resulted in a regional home for a Kurds, Arabs, Syrians, Arameans, Turks, Armenians, Yazidis, Chechens and other groups.
What began as the hierarchical Marxist-Leninist political party, the PKK, has evolved into what its leader Abdullah Öcalan calls "Democratic Confederalism", a “system of a people without a State”, inspired by the work of Murray Bookchin.
What we see in Rojava today is anarchism in practice.
Each Canton subscribes to a constitution that affirms a society free from authoritarianism and centralism, while allowing for pragmatic autonomy and pluralism.
No.2122
Are we all anti-feminist here?
What does /Marx/ think about the whole women's movement being hijacked by right wing fascists?
No.2124
No surprise trots are parroting the MRA line.
No.2749
>>2122
Hit the road, trotpig.
No.2751
>>2749
>>2124
Uhh, comrades, you're not defending idpol are you?
No.2755
>>2751
Proletarian Feminism is class struggle against patriarchy. I bet you have trouble wrapping your head around natlib too.
Accusing people of idpol is mostly gross orthotrots lazily defending their hobbled practice or some gambit to scoop up babby brocialistics who need to gloss over the way capitalism figures in the lives of women and PoC. It's not even Marxist-Leninist, just eclectic. Realistic appraisal of our situation involves being flexible in front work. Everytime someone flat out accuses you of identity politics and can't critique it beyond that framework it's a dead end. Class interest itself could easily be construed as identity politics by the same logic.
No.2757
>>2755
>patriarchy
>PoC
>>>/reddit/
>Class interest itself could easily be construed as identity politics by the same logic.
No it can't. Identity politics are non-economic in nature, and are utterly divisive as it distracts from class struggle. At best, idpol does nothing at all.
No.2760
>>2757
They're words. You just don't like them because you've heard they've been used by some reactionary you simply sympathize with in the context of "mean SJWs" with whatever forward-thinking ideas of Gender deconstruction which could be formed amoung the people, that churned your stomach thru the significance of some feudo-capitalist ideological signifigance to you.
Reform Your Study. You need to develop a more versatile Proletarian Internationalist perspective.
On Display: classicprimitive trot economism,
But such activity is not enough for us; we are not children to be fed on the thin gruel of “economic” politics alone; we want to know everything that others know, we want to learn the details of all aspects of political life and to take part actively in every single political event. In order that we may do this, the intellectuals must talk to us less of what we already know. and tell us more about what we do not yet know and what we can never learn from our factory and “economic” experience, namely, political knowledge. -V.I. Lenin.
You lot are supposed to know both Origins and What is to Be Done Backwards and forwards and still you come at me with this weak dish.
Now that /reddit/ has shed it's reactionary lining the iron is almost as hot as the furnace in my backyard.
No.2765
>>2760
Identity politics are a poison that can only serve to stall insurrection. Everything has an economic cause. "Patriarchy" doesn't exist anymore than "Jewry". Any issues faced by minorities or women, that are because they are those, will soon be fixed by socialism.
No.2766
>>2765
Gender is the first class distinction in the terms of division of labour. Feminism and Marxism share a great deal, from August Bebel and Angela Davis to Shulamith Firestone and Catherine MacKinnon. To label practice which has had a history of development and dialogue with Marxism-Leninism simply identity politics from the immediacy of your understanding is ahistorical.
"Identity Politics" is a dilettante term that isn't even very Marxist. It reeks of sociologism as opposed to revolutionary science. Furthermore "Identity Politics" any lazy Marxist who wishes to substitute his own subjective politicization as principle in contrast to mass work. The problem is not "Identity Politics" but liberalism, which stalls insurrection by tokenism. Liberal Feminism is a problem. and it is in terms of Liberalism. Proletarian Feminism is the feminism of the working woman. Patriarchy is very real when it is women who are assigned a gendered role in capitalism in reproducing the worker's life and labour power. Marxism itself is subject to all sorts of distortions. How can you say that Class Struggle can overcome Capitalism if it cannot overcome Patriarchy in the lives of working women? Communism is not a political position but a movement.
We do not tie our hands in advance and resign ourselves to dogma? We have insurrection as principle which tantalizes us with it's somewhat adventurist intonations because we do not have discipline to carry out a response to the demands of the masses and carry out class analysis of the movements and necessarily the evolution of these movements. Consider too the Utopian phase of your Socialism. The phase of resistence to colonial powers that did not yet progress into the anti-imperialist struggle for National Liberation.
Are you scared of the wicked witches with the funny hair and problem glasses? Do they weigh too much? Are their genders too funny and made up? Snap the hell out of it, we owe notions of gender and it's colonial narrative nothing. Class Struggle itself continues during Socialism and this class struggle invariably involves ideological struggle against the backwards who are acquainted to antiquated notions. The concept of Patriarchy, in the feminism within which it is situated has a Utopian character which imbues men with an inherent evil.
Immediately after asserting everything has an economic cause, you state two ideas, which foremost of all things have an economic cause. "Jewry" in the context of obscurantist Anti-Semitism and "Patriarchy" in the context of your straw feminism. Patriarchy is not the notion that men are inherently evil but that economic factors such as capitalism reinforce attitudes which devalue the work of women and reproduct the conditions of production upon women's bodies. Patriarchy is a very real thing in the lives of women workers. It manifests as being exposed to sexist gestures and attitudes at the instance of their livelihood whereas others would have the luxury of avoiding such. We must not alienate the workers from feminism and warn them away from it with supernaturalistic finality.
It won't soon be fixed by socialism because socialism has suffered a catastrophic defeat and is bombarded with slander daily. There is no "soon" for the working women, but the participation in a movement which does away with all the previous conditions. We have to appraise our situation realistically and examine socialism as a movement which has suffered setbacks, and which without the masses and careful attendance to their demands, will consign Liberals the political struggle and Barbarism the rule of the day while it sternly defends it's unequivocal opposition to an unchallenged and inarticulate dog whistle swimming in the sea of mythic trot demands for ideological purity before practice.
No.2770
>>2766
Feminism is inherently bourgeois and liberal, if the real enemy is capitalism, why even mention these problems? How can you know communism wouldn't solve it? We should focus on nothing but capitalism, atleast until we know that this "patriarchy" really exists. The best way, to stop sexism and racism today is to ignore it's existence while simultaneously participating in it ironically. (i.e saying nigger without hate)
No.2771
Doing away with capitalism is also going to require doing away with the Cartesian notion of subject, of which feminism is a product of.
No.2772
No.2774
>>2770
wow lol
you literally have no grasp of diamat whatsoever, do you?
No.2775
>>2765
they will be, sure - but then those problems have to be acknowledged, not HURR DURRR SHUT UP SJW
No.2776
>>2775
Are you the marxist memes admin? Because you sound like him
>>2774
>no argument
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>>2766
>Catherine MacKinnon
>Catherine "All Sex is Rape" MacKinnon
No.2779
>>2770
>How can you know communism wouldn't solve it?
Communism isn't a solution, Communism is how we solve those problems by extending political participation to every level of society. Communism isn't about "muh values" like liberalism or conservatism, wherein under the liberal framework everyone harangues that the problems of class would disappear if everyone held fast to some principle. Marxist-Leninists know that that is impossible as long as class society and the capitalist mode of production exists. After the failures of the revolution in Germany, Lenin wrote Left-Wing Communism: An Infantile Disorder, and the lesson of that book was that if the revolutionary endeavours and dares to change things, this envolves participation in 'reactionary' bodies. It's been waved around by trots for the unions they love so much, but it applies also to feminism and feminist projects also.
If you can't locate patriarchy within Marxist analysis of labour, you just aren't looking hard enough, honestly. Saying racial expletives 'without hate' is idiotic. In practice it means saying invectives and then dropping the spaghetti while you explain why it's "not actually racist."
>>2771
Another thing, can we stop saying feminism in the singular? It's really crude. Marxism-Leninism itself is just as much a product of those notions as feminism in it's evolution. Marxism-Leninism involves 'doing away' with Marxism-Leninism as in making itself obsolete.
>>2772
"Identity Politics" is like some sneaky concept that snuck up into Marxism from vulgar politics. Oddly enough, JMP is a feminist, as much as that would explode the pubescent brains of so many Marxlings here. I didn't think JMP would actually fall victim to it. Most of what makes people freak out about IP is just plain old institutional liberal hegemony. There is nothing productive about any other definition which would makes implied concessions to insipid conservative boogeymen.
>>2776
>Are you the marxist memes admin?
no shit, any good facebook admin knows how to play it safe.
>>2778
>...b-b-but muh poosy party.
PUA/MRA-tier brocialist opportunism at it's rankest. Crushing capitalism has absolutely nothing to do with you 'getting laid' or not. Knowing you'll hold back on staring down the phenomenon of capitalism in it's full atavistic wretchedness makes you futile as a revolutionary, as does knowing your thought is inflexible by presenting your sacred cows right before us.
No.2780
No.2782
>>2780
>>2781
Cool, the revolution could always use more gamergate kiddies with tugger's remorse. Down with the means test! We have a right to a gender binary!
Here's teh ebin maymay through which you can trace your politicization complete with it's scary feminist with unshaved pits and all. it's ready made for you to add your facetious comparisons to nationalism so that the Spartacists can fawn over your precocity.
No.2783
>>2766
>Catherine MacKinnon
Literally said that all heterosexual sex is rape. GTFO douche
No.2784
>>2783
...and of course August fucking Bebel said the exact same thing. But of course, you just decontextualize my emphasis on the breadth of Marxist Feminist examination of capitalist society and only focus on the scariest superstars that reactionaries can throw forth without investigating their critique but merely find their conclusions unacceptable because natural right and it's circularity is still ringing in your ears from the rudiments of your liberal education and it's corresponding imageboard antiliberalism.
No.2786
>>2766
>Gender is the first class distinction in the terms of division of labour.
SJW pls go. Stop trying to rewrite what the word "class" means.
No.2787
>>2786
Okay, I'll stop, which is easy for me because I died in 1895. I won't interfere with your crystal clear internet strawfoe anymore. Proceed tilting.
No.2793
>>2779
>liking fucking makes you a pua/mra
>you have to be celibate or else you're futile as a revolutionary
>y-you're atavistic!
>NORMIES GET OUT REEEEEEE
Holy shit I've never read anything so pathetic in my life
No.2794
>>2793
>but I love dutifully reproducing my labour power for the boss.
It`s called being gay lmoa jk
...then there's microchimaerism.
but in all seriousness. If the possibility of never having sex ever again makes you even a little bit sqeamish, how are you actually prepared for the demands of everyday life, let alone revolution?
I'm sorry I'm being a Stalinist bureaucrat authoritarian personality that is curbing your free ambiguity in sexual taboos. I've just gotta combat vinegar liberalism when it pitches it's ugly tent. Natural Right itself as the root of liberalism is based on a "concord which dependeth on Natural Lust" as stated by Hobbes and taken up by Locke. It is atavistic in perfect occurance from their vantage point. they had not the idea of produced reality and so viewed that nature apart from production. The biologism of the act's orgins which you point to is a vestige of this. As it enters production it no longer serves you in anyway but delusions.
It's not a matter of being actively celibate, but just cleansing your pallet of such backwards notions. I fail to see why that's an overly taxing requirement. I think it's pathetic that you place so much importance on something epiphenomenal and treat it as non negotiable when it's such an absolute minefield for sordid intrigues. If you've just gotta make yourself vulnerable you've just gotta be trusted less. It doesn't make you an mra/pua, it just means they have something to offer you. Thanks for sharing.
No.2838
>>2836
Oh for sure, Marx's comments on one religious group are all trotskyists need for their foaming dread of idpol as it applies to gender, race, and just about everything else.
No.2839
>>2838
You're a fucking retard you know that
No.2840
>>2839
If you call yourselves Stalinists and you couldn't even pull off a popular front to save your lives and rest your assumptions and excuses on vulgar notions that never had anything to do with Marxism-Leninism in the first place.
Get back to your hole and run from crude lumpen stereotypes, let that suffice for your commitment to working class politics. Reducing them to rumour without investigation and appraisal of the situation's potential in lieu of any binding subjective notions from compromised sources.
No.2841
>>2840
Why don't YOU go back to YOUR hole?
>>>/xirxistmemes/
No.2842
>>2841
I'm not even the admin of that site, And if I was, I would have still made you incoherent and completely at a loss for anything but the most babyish retort.
I just sound like him because I use "PC" language.
If you can't even learn a little Lingo and keep your mouth stuff at the right time, you're just completely useless. To keep you is no benefit. To destroy you is no loss.
No.2843
>>2842
You literally said you are, in this very thread no less!
Please, kill yourself
No.2844
>>2843
You can't into context, just like your theory. Every facebook admin has to sound safe. That's it.