/marx/ - Marxism

Yeah we say that each phase of society develops out of the conditions of the previous one. So capitalism creates the conditions necessary for socialism. Although Marx said primitive communism existed a very long time ago, it gave rise to slave society, which then gave rise to feudal soceity, then capitalism, then socialism, then new communism. From scratch, meaning from the animal like state of pre-savage humans, wouldn't really work, as socialism essentially requires that there be social forms of production (mass production, assemply lines, etc.).

You should probably read Marx's Critique of the Gotha Programme, which discusses the relationship between the overthrown system (capitalism) and society under the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Even though human society was originally "communistic" in some sense, it was confined to tiny isolated groups or small communities at best, each staying together for the common purpose of not being killed by nature or animals. Scarcity is what led to an absence of classes at this point in human history.

As scarcity began to be overcome classes started to emerge, slavery became a thing, etc.

The proletariat only comes about through the development of capitalism. It is this class which can abolish capitalism and lay the foundations for a communist society, at first necessarily making use of all the factories and culture of the old society for new purposes.

Socialism and Communism are based on a growing abundance of goods distributed via society itself; neither "from each according to his ability, to each according to his work" (socialism) or "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (communism) can work in primitive hunter-gatherer societies. They both presuppose a far higher degree of productivity (and corresponding productive forces) than exists in those parts of the world.

You will notice that not a single self-described communist (Lenin, Stalin, Castro, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il Sung, Hoxha, Tito, whomever else) "rebooted" society or whatever. They all made use of what could serve the present from the past.

Pol Pot was a glaring exception but then again the Vietnamese toppled him and he started receiving indirect aid from the CIA to "fight the communist occupation of Cambodia" throughout the 80s.

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