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 No.3029

I personally believe in libertarian marxism. What general criticism do you have against lib marxism? Is there other lib marxists here?

 No.3031

File: 1449704685312.jpg (50.89 KB, 400x605, 80:121, Stalin Defender.jpg)

Well how would you define "libertarian Marxism"?

You use a photo of the Zapatistas. The EZLN don't claim to be Marxists, and they're not exactly in a position to lead the Mexican working-class to overthrow the exploitation of man by man. Their struggle for indigenous rights is noble, but it is not sufficient.

And it does not help that the EZLN's non-Marxist ideology leads them into silly positions. For example, "In 1994, it was reported that the leader of the Zapatista rebels in Mexico, Subcommander Marcos said that 'he expects the United States to support the Zapatistas once US intelligence agencies are convinced the movement is not influenced by Cubans or Russians.' 'Finally,' Marcos said, 'they are going to conclude that this is a Mexican problem, with just and true causes.' Yet for many years, the United States has been providing the Mexican military with all the training and tools needed to kill Marcos' followers and, most likely, before long, Marcos himself."

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 No.3032

>>3031

Libertarian marxism is simply applying marxism in a less authoritarian way.

Bolsheviks for example, had policies that impeded in the personal freedoms of common people and I say that is against the liberation of the working class. If we want the working class to be liberated, we must allow them to do what it is they wish without impeding on their personal freedom. It's worth noting economic freedom does not equal personal freedom but I'm sure most of us here agree with that already.

I just posted zapatistas because they are libertarian socialists at least and I really have no better picture.


 No.3033

>>3031

>he expects the United States to support the Zapatistas once US intelligence agencies are convinced the movement is not influenced by Cubans or Russians

Do you have source for this? Not that your critique is wrong, but fuck, this sounds so stupid and unbelievable that I want proofs.


 No.3035

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>>3032

Well what exactly did the Bolsheviks do that "impeded personal freedoms" and in what sense were the Bolsheviks authoritarian?

I'm sure you're aware of Engels' words on authority: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm

>>3033

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-24/news/mn-26819_1_peace-agreement


 No.3045

>>3032

>economic freedom does not equal personal freedom

"economic freedom" lol, fuck outta you shameful capitalist. Capitalists thinking they're entitled to have prolos sell their 1/3 of their lives to them and being able to selectively elimenate the ones that won't isn't freedom.




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