explain to me how communism is not fascism

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Anonymous 10/12/14 (Sun) 23:26:04 No.867

explain to me how communism is not fascism

Anonymous 10/12/14 (Sun) 23:37:58 No.869

>>867
>Communism
A stage within society where a state, money, and property are no longer necessary and the means of production are commonly owned.
>Fascism
Complete control by the government with heavy reliance on Nationalism, with one group(usually a specific demographic) ruling supreme over all others. As well the interests of common people are not ever considered
Basically, they could not be more different.

Anonymous 10/13/14 (Mon) 01:03:25 No.874

>>869
but how do you plan on enforcing communism ? how do you convice a farmer that his lands the lands of his father that he worked all his life on aren't his anymore ?

Anonymous 10/13/14 (Mon) 03:22:13 No.875

>>874

Well the Bolesheviks dealt with that by buying peasant land voluntarily and forming it into cooperatives. This also convinced other farmers to join the cooperatives.

Communism can only be acheived after a period of socialism - the revolutionary dictatorship of the working class over the capitalist class. Socialism involves a state. According to Marxism, the state can only wither away once classes have been abolished and property has been socialized. That is, once the need for a state disappears, then so too shall the state. The functions of the state will be absorbed into functions of the general masses, such as law enforcement, etc.

If you're not just shitposting then lurk more. It's been explained in few threads here.

Tweaker 10/13/14 (Mon) 07:49:17 No.882

>>874
communists don't want to convince landowners to hand over their property to the workers
their take is irrelevant, they hold different class interests, communism is not an ideology of the middle class

Fuhrer Anonymous 10/13/14 (Mon) 13:37:50 No.890

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>>867
> Fascism
its based on Human Nature. Fascism is a biological world view, it understands that humans are rotten by nature and need a strong State and moral Leadership to keep the Nation strong in the struggle for life and conservative in Culture. HIerarchy, Duty, Family, Faith, Volk, that's Fascism in a nutshell.

on economics its free market, but you cant just sell or do anything you wish for money if its degrading and unmoral for the society.

>Communism

Human nature can be changed and will so under communism. promotion of forced equality, land is taken by the state, so none is yours.
together with some nice diseased, degenerate, and soulless intellectualism with materialism
where we will slowly but surely turn from socialism in to communism

like

>eat the shit until it tastes like chockolate

thats communim in a nuttshell

Anonymous 10/13/14 (Mon) 13:43:09 No.891

Fascism = corporations (more precisely: individuals who "own" corporations) rule and exploit the rest. Fascism literally means "unity of corporations and government"

Communsim = nobody is exploited

Anonymous 10/13/14 (Mon) 14:55:40 No.892

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>>890
>its based on Human Nature.
This is all I need to know that you ahve no idea what you are talking about. I'm studying anthropology and psychology for 1 and a half years now. Humans are not rotten by nature. What an insane idea is that? Where do you even get this from?

Anonymous 10/13/14 (Mon) 18:19:47 No.897

>>892

rotten viewed from a modern moral standpoint.

>bob killed fred so he could survive and bring food to his tribe

whateva

Anonymous 10/13/14 (Mon) 18:21:43 No.898

>>897
and cus fred was a weak faggot, darwinism then.

if you dont think most people would consider that rottten.

then again the phrase i used dosent really fucking matter. could say darwinian instead of rotten.

Anonymous 10/13/14 (Mon) 23:19:08 No.902

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>human nature

Anonymous 10/28/14 (Tue) 18:07:42 No.1191

>>875
I think what he's talking about is not communism, but the middle period of the dictatorship of the working class. I've seen many bootlickers on this board say that the Soviet Union under Stalin was successful dictatorship of the proletariat, but how exactly does that regime differentiate from Germany under Hitler?

Anonymous 10/29/14 (Wed) 08:33:37 No.1199

>>1191

Fascism is class collaborationism. Marxism is class struggle. Look at what happened to the bourgeoisie in both nations and you will see a clear difference.

Anonymous 10/29/14 (Wed) 18:28:09 No.1206

>>1191
See Michael Parenti's "Blackshirts and Reds": http://bookzz.org/book/981420/378c5d

Adam Tooze's "Wages of Destruction": http://bookzz.org/book/814833/b3ab2c

See also: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1ZP6ZurgOg-RTZHdy1TenpmREk/edit

Like seriously the only way you can argue that the Soviet and Nazi societies were similar is because the latter also had a single party and blatantly copied the practice of having unified labor, women's, youth, etc. organizations from the USSR.