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 No.922

hey marxfags

come over at >>>/natsoc/ and debate or do an AMA. we diversity now

 No.928

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Fascism is not meant to debated

It is meant to be smashed

 No.932

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>>928
this guy gets it

 No.933

>>932

Can't we say that fascism is better than liberalism though? It seems closer to socialism to me. Lenin said fascism was capitalism in decay, and isn't it true that as capitalism decays, the foundations for socialism are simultaneously built?

 No.942

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>>933
No. I dont want to live in an economically successful, stable, and strong, if the people are not at the helm, and the nation doesn't have a soul or a concious.

 No.943

>>942
*stable and strong state

 No.944

>>933
The Comintern even in Lenin's time was pointing out the inherent dangers of fascism, which extinguished just about any democratic liberties and used chauvinism to keep itself in power.

Liberalism and fascism are both variants of capitalism, but the former on paper defends such liberties as freedom of press, association, etc. even if only the bourgeoisie can truly take advantage of these under capitalism.

 No.1553

>refusing an invitation to debate

You are all truly scum. Worse than /pol/.

ffs even leftypol has debate threads.

 No.1554

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>>922
>>1553
lol, if there was a debate, there wouldn't be much to it

We'd just shout dogma at each other until one side just gets tired

Personal political philosophies people have each hold unto themselves a certain set of assumptions about how the way the world works currently and how the world should work, and no amount of debate will change these set of assumptions. Someones' ideology might change, but the fundamental assumptions that make them hold onto these ideologies cannot simply be changed through an exchange of words; only confrontation with political reality within the context of personal perspective can do that.

 No.1556

Here's what a debate would look like:
>Commie: yer racist
>Natscum: wghti genothide
>Commie: no such thing
>Natscum: nuh huh
>Commie: Holocoast
>Natscum: dat dittint hapen
>Natscum: Holodomor
>Commie: dittint hapen
>Natscum: Jews did (insert bullshit here)
>Commie: no dey didnt
>Natscum: course youd say dat, cuz ur a jewfaggot 88 88 88
>Commie: ur a boorjwia
>Natscum: i dont no wat dat means, fuck u
>Commie: no, fuck u
ad infinitum

 No.1557

>>1553

Why don't you make a thread here or at least make a thread in /pol/ and link to it or something? Or get people into a discussion by posting a particular question.

 No.1558

>>1557

>/pol/


meant /natsoc/

 No.1560

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>>1553
>ffs even leftypol has debate threads.
Yeah and they probably all suck. We're not "democratic socialists" or Trots.

 No.1568

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>>1560
I'm a trot

 No.1571

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>>1568
>I'm a trot
The way I see it, you can still be a trot on this forum as long as you aren't a jackass about it. The problem is is that trots tend to be jackasses around MLs and vice-versa. The whole Stalin-Trotsky debate is so full of fucking shit, it's getting real tired; no one goddamn argues socialist theory when they argue, they just argue that one side is good and the other bad.

Also, there are debate threads on /marx/, we just don't see the point in debating with nazis.

 No.1577

>>1571

About the Trots vs MLs, good point. Debating the ideological lines is more important than character attacks on Stalin or Trotsky. Really just don't start screaming about muh holodomor and it's fine. We have a few discussions of socialism in one country here right now, which can be a bit interesting. Things like that are quite alright.

As for debating Nazis I think it's worthwhile so long as the discussion doesn't degenerate.

 No.2037

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>>1571
>we just don't see the point in debating with nazis

However "Nazis" see the point in debating you.

Go to /natsoc/ and spout your disagreements with the NS viewpoint, give a logical criticism, and you may be able to sway those evil fascists to your side.

(Or vise versa)

Don't you want to save their brainwashed souls?

 No.2040

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>>2037
We don't debate with liberals or conservatives on here (at least not at any great length) unless they come in to ask questions like "so what do you think about the fact stalin killed everyone" or whatever. This board is basically intended for anyone who self-identifies as "Marxist-Leninist" (which, at the very least, means they say they uphold Leninism and do not identify as Trotskyists.) I'm pretty sure /pol/ is the general "everyone debates with everyone" board.

 No.2072

>>2040
>I'm pretty sure /pol/ is the general "everyone debates with everyone" board.
Pretty sure it's actually the 'far right debates with the further right' board



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