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 No.11812

Mentally ill patrons of the beloved board that we are currently operating within, What do you think love SHOULD be? I'm sure all of us have wanted to love, and I'm also sure that most of us reached out into our world at one point to get it. realizing that our society doesn't harbor, nuture, and in many cases, not even know what love is beyond the physical chemical shit that goes on in our brains when we become infatuated.

 No.11813

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>>11812

Forgot pic. It's half the reason i made this thread.


 No.11816

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In perspective, love is absolute faith in one another along with looking out for one another as well. Even if it means being scornful at times. But looking out for one another stops being a loving act once it becomes about vengeance and retribution. Another thing is that love occurs between at least two people, no less. Affection without reciprocation is nothing short of self-destructive obsession.

Love is a rare thing and is a great treasure. Being attracted to someone is one thing, but true love another. There are also different kinds of love. For instance, I doubt I would love my fellow man the same way I would love my wife. I will look out for him, support him when he needs it and be like a brother to him. This is what I like to call a strengthening love as it keeps each other strong and off the path of error. On the other side, there is romantic love. Romantic being the 'classic' kind where the couple becomes inseparable and there is no other in the world that could ever replace them if one of them were lost.


 No.11819

I am talking from my own experience, obviously, but I don't believe love is something "rare"; it is scarce, yes, but one needs only to dig a little. I think most human beings are able to love but we're too scared to let it flow… Which is sad…

That is not to underestimate it: love is a great treasure, no doubt about it.

To answer your question, OP, I think love should be more free, more boundless, more spontaneous. There is love between the couples at the park but there may also love when you help an old man up a bus, for example. It's a glimmer of love, a small particle of that substance, yet the same.

I think we should be less afraid of letting that love flow from us. Getting hurt… does it mean anything? Pain, the burn of loneliness, does it matter anything? The pit of dissapointment within one when romantic love is over, is it not worth it?

I say this because I broke up with my gf a couple of months ago. I keep rolling as normal but she's always there in my head… you know. Went full retard and all that. I think I would do it again.


 No.11825

>>11819

>I think most human beings are able to love but we're too scared to let it flow

I wish it were that simple because believe me I would let it flow if I could. I care about people and those around me, sure, but I have yet to find someone that makes me feel true love.

I've never had that high school crush, never had that person you meet where you feel you just have to be with them, never had that and I am so, so very jealous of those who have had it. There are things and people that I like and care for, but I wouldn't call it love.

>Getting hurt… does it mean anything? Pain, the burn of loneliness, does it matter anything?

Pain is like a whip in the hands of a slaver: It serves not only as something to punish one with, but also something to motivate with. Pain means something, it is something to remember so one doesn't screw up again and something to motivate you to strengthen yourself against what causes it. Also the 'burn of loneliness' as you put it tends to fade with time. I like to joke about it as becoming so alone that loneliness itself abandons you.

Now this whole thing may sound like some edgelord scribblings, but if love is so easily reachable, then why haven't I found it? Am I trying too hard? Not trying hard enough? It frustrates me to no end. I don't think I'm alone on this, either, given the constant break-ups, divorces, and backstabbery I see around me, but it continues to reinforce my belief that real love is rare.

Not trying to argue, just explaining why I share this particular perspective on such a powerful emotion. I think it comes down to how one loosely or strictly one interprets it. I consider caring for others to be fundamentally good just for the principal of the thing and not necessarily out of something I hold so highly in regard like love while others may see something so simple as a loving act.


 No.11848

>>11812

I don't think love should be anything, I'm in the worst mood right now.

Wait, I do know what love should be.

Murdered.

Love should be murdered until its killed to death. Love is a chemical reaction in the guise of an altruistic unique epic soul bonding experience in order to make sure that our species continues to survive. It is this first, secondly, love disguises itself as infatuation and lust. The first is to trick those who are of a certain degree of intelligence. The second is for the mentally inept and barbaric who act based on external stimuli, quite frankly, animals. I don't hate love to be honest, but lets be realistic here. Its all just bull shit.

The burn of loneliness is an attempt to push us to copulate and a natural reaction to seek something to fill the void. Those afraid to "love" are simply aware of how pathetic they are to most people and wish to minimize net pain via abstaining from social interaction, something that is common place with those who are ostracized due to mental illness.

Did I miss anything?


 No.11851

>>11848

right on the mark, anon…


 No.11858

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>>11848

So what you are saying, at least what I am getting from this, is that you are tired of falling for someone and it biting you in the ass.

The thing is that learning to conquer/control 'lust' or 'infatuation' as you put it can be done although, in my experience, is comparable to trying to kick a substance addiction. Well, I can't say that as I have never exposed myself to addictive drugs, but that's what I draw the closest comparison to.

There is no easy way to do it, but it starts not by wanting, but by needing. You have to convince yourself that the desire to desire/lust/whatnot is the enemy and from there it will be a long road on the way to getting rid of it.

This is why I refuse to correlate love with the urge to plow someone under the bedsheets. If you love something more than mere carnal desires, then the desires will fade with time.

tl;dr: Love=/=sex, the real enemy is judgment-impairing lust for 30 minutes of pleasure which is like an inborn bad habit, and there's more to life than orgasms and physical pleasure.


 No.11884

>>11858

>If you love something more than mere carnal desires, then the desires will fade with time.

What's so bad about lust? Humans are creatures needing both psychological and physical pleasures to be happy. I agree that a one night stand is not love. However, what's so wrong about sharing a mutual pleasure with someone you love? And why should the lust decrease with time if you love someone? It seems to me that love and lust are two independant state. Lust alone is casual sex and love on it's own is platonic. When combined, you have romantic love. Sex is just one of the many activities to share with someone you love.


 No.11888

>>11825

>I've never had that high school crush, never had that person you meet where you feel you just have to be with them

100% with you on that. But do most people's high school crushes actually mean anything outside of carnal desire to bone, as in >>11848 ?

Does this make one asexual/grey-asexual/demisexual or whatever the hell fuckbaby island calls it? Because apparently I'M the weird one for having turned down girls that wanted to fuck me, because they had shitty personalities and I don't want to sexually gratify people I don't like.


 No.11889

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>>11884

>Humans are creatures needing both psychological and physical pleasures to be happy.

That's where you're wrong. There are plenty of people who find joy out of avoiding any sort of things. Like monks, very chaste sorts of people who go through their lives in maximum wizard mode, avoiding many physical and psychological pleasures…yet they are still fulfilled in what they do.

>However, what's so wrong about sharing a mutual pleasure with someone you love?

That's not really what I was talking about. I do not believe that loving someone is an inherently bad thing, but being obsessed with someone can have very negative impacts if they don't share that feeling.

>And why should the lust decrease with time if you love someone?

That's why I said something as opposed to someone. Something meaning a cause, a career of sorts, something one believes in that surpasses their desire for physical pleasure. Something that people hold so dear to that they would make many personal sacrifices to fill it. Again, monks are a great example.

>It seems to me that love and lust are two independant state. Lust alone is casual sex and love on it's own is platonic. When combined, you have romantic love. Sex is just one of the many activities to share with someone you love.

I absolutely agree. Again, I don't believe love is the enemy, but obsession and infatuation in someone that doesn't reciprocate the feelings. It can drive one crazy and lead to all sorts of psychological issues.

>>11888

>But do most people's high school crushes actually mean anything outside of carnal desire to bone, as in >>11848 ?

In my opinion, no. Well, most of them no. I can't say anything 100% fact on this, but I wouldn't be surprised if one actually did have strong feelings for eachother while still in highschool years as it has happened before. But yeah, I also wouldn't be surprised if the majority of them were nothing more than to get into people's pants.

>Does this make one asexual/grey-asexual/demisexual or whatever the hell fuckbaby island calls it? Because apparently I'M the weird one for having turned down girls that wanted to fuck me, because they had shitty personalities and I don't want to sexually gratify people I don't like.

Probably not. I wouldn't pay any mind to those dumblr labels in the first place. As for true 'asexuality', that involves absolutely abysmal sex drive/very very low libido and, if I were to guess, is often a symptom of other psychological disorders or hormonal issues, but I'm no doctor. So if you still have a sex drive, you're in luck. The fact that you turned down girls that just wanted to get in your pants isn't anything to be worried about, if anything, it tells me you matured a bit faster, kek.

Also

>checked

Nice trips


 No.11892

Love is too deep for any strict definition. And also too shallow.

We can't really know if it exists in its romantic, film-esque purity or something more obsessive. Fleetingly or forever.


 No.11918

I think we are too fixated on the single word "love" because love on a singular thing.

Love is about context of the parties at hand. Your love for your family is different than the love you friends, which is different than the love of your sexual partner.

If you look at the Greek words for "love" they are split in four groups:

Agape: unconditional love for another or selfless love

Eros: romantic love or intimate love

Philia: brotherly love, friendship, or affection.

Storge: familial love such as the love of a parent towards offspring, and vice versa.

I think looking at love with this mindset will help paint a better picture and depending on what type you want, you will look to different situations for that need because more then anything I believe that love is an eventuality of socialization.

As living thing we have a need to socialize and you will, at some point, love that person that you are socializing with. In what way depends on the person and yourself.


 No.11920

> What do you think love SHOULD be?

>should

i reject duties and obligations


 No.12016

>>11813

I'd be okay with eating someone else' blood because they loved me, but wouldn't it be better for them if they cut somewhere less sensitive?

What's the least sensitive part of the body?

The elbow.

Yeah girl, give me some of that elbow blood instead, if you really want me to eat your blood at all.


 No.12053

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Love, for civilization is for procreation. The more we multiply, the more we multiply the number of minds, ideas and points of view.

Individually, it is a sentiment of being complete. But this is where love has a fine line between hope, and pain. When deeply in love with someone, the chemical in question is adrenaline. And it is addictive. You become addicted to the person in question. You may see it as smoking a cigarette. When you run out, or loose someone in this case, you will feel, you will weep, you will crave to get that sweet sweet adrenaline again. And that's unbearable when you are the most miserable person you know. once you loved, and loose, you will crave. It's addiction. There's no escape.


 No.12092

>>12053

Basically this is true. I can't add much more.

>This line is just to avoid the unoriginal content filter, which is stupid imo


 No.12093

>>12053

That's horrifying.


 No.12094

>>12016

Isn't part of the endearment of the situation the pain? Like a "love" sacrifice or whatever?


 No.12137

My ideal life partner would be someone who challenges me intellectually, but automatically sides with me when it is an emotionally charged situation, where it "counts" so to speak. Unfortunately it does not work that way. I have yet to find both stimulation and validation in the same person. There's a certain level of insincerity in people that sympathize with me, and terseness in people that challenge me. I'm beginning to think they might actually be incompatible traits to exist in the same individual at the same time.

On the bright side there are a lot of really cute cats at the shelter.




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