/mental/ - Mental Health, Illnesses and Disorders

Damn son, you think like I did when I was 14.

Rationalize it however you want. Truth of the matter is that you are the defect here, not them. Wouldn't be called a disorder if you weren't now would it? Best advice is to come to terms with that and cope in whatever way suits you best and if you wish to isolate yourself, that's fine(Personally, I can't stand the idea of living with someone and modern civilization drives me nuts so somewhere alone and quiet is desirable), but this kind of arrogant high and mighty snark will only worsen things for you.

In my experience, the best medicine for constantly being upset with everyone else is learning to forgive them when they are wrong and learn to forgive yourself when you are wrong. If you hold onto this bitter attitude towards everyone, it isn't gonna make things any easier or better for you.

>normies do not desire deep interpersonal connections that i do, and are in fact disturbed at the idea. as a result, normies are unwilling to share any details of their personal lives, ensuring no one in their social circle will ever go beyond an acquaintance

There's a time and place for everything in a conversation. It's simply taboo to meet someone just yesterday and then come up to them and tell them your whole life story. Building a friendship with someone is just that: building. It takes time and tactics. Easier for most people as most have social tact as an instinct rather than having to learn parts of it(or even the whole deal) manually. Often those who have to learn the hard way will end up having to fake things, but if the ends are desirable than the means of faking are justifiable.

>normies have never shown me any genuine emotional response to anything ever, leading me to believe their emotions are quite dulled and also further supporting the "no desire for interpersonal connections" theory

How can you know they aren't genuine? You're making assumptions just to fit your own rationale. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. You can't know unless you know every single in and out about human social behaviors…and most folks don't.

>i cannot financially afford to be a "friend". "friend"-having requires a lot of cash. normies cannot be sated with conversation, because again, they don't want friends. they want a bullshit partner to join them at the casino or wherever, in part because it is not "socially acceptable" to do anything out of the house solo, not even to eat.

This right here tells me you really haven't met all that many people. What's that phrase, again? That you should never judge a book by its cover. All these things you say play off to me like that of someone watching from the outside without truly knowing what's going on. People like to have fun with eachother and sometimes that entails forking out some cash. Not always, though. For instance, you can play a game of DnD with only some pencils and paper. The most fun weekends I've had were simple ones like that and guess what? "shocker!" these were all friends, some more well known than others, but I knew them. And here's another shocker: They work 9-5 blue collar jobs, they went to school or are going to a university, they get up in the morning and go to bed at night and they have responsibilities. What's that sound like to you? Is that a 'normie?'

On the outside, if I never knew these people, they'd be as plain as day as anyone else. But getting to know them has allowed me to see that such an appearance is only a cover and they are all rather different and hardly boring.

To put things short, your view of the world is heavily flawed. Yes, there are materialistic assholes out there. Yes, most average people will seem boring on the outside. Yes, many will likely shun you in some way if you open up too much with them. But on the other side of things, if you have patience, if you learn to know the people you want to know, and if you have a good understanding of how social circles work even if it doesn't come to you naturally, you will find that there are many interesting and agreeable people out there. The common denominator is you and the sooner you come to accept that, the sooner you can work towards making things better for yourself. Learning all this isn't gonna be an overnight thing and neither should you study it scrupulously, you just have to come to know it slowly.

>>12700

Did you have real friends in the past? Sadly I think I had more real friends in middle school through early high school. People would open up to you about their feelings, and we all had creative streaks. We would get together with a camcorder to make stupid skits, we would read each others' fiction, we we would read the same science fiction, and we would go on camping trips and outings together while making lots of jokes.

Then I got older. I'm nearly thirty now and my friends are gone, or have turned into people I don't recognize or want much to do with. We don't sleep over at each others' houses, or play pretend for sport because we're playing pretend when we talk. Our conversations are, "How've you been? How's the wife? The job?"

No one seems alive, no one seems worth knowing. No one reads, no one draws, no one talks about their inner worlds because they probably don't have them anymore. My so-called friends have been bitten by zombies, and the worse part is I feel myself becoming just as boring as them. If my more vibrant younger self met me today, he wouldn't want anything to do with me. So how can I call myself superior to the other drones?

I can't help you, but I think it's part of growing up. Either you make friends with younger people who can make you feel alive, and who can share the innane teenage drama you won't even care about, or you accept that aging means losing your old sense of humor and identity and becoming as cranky as grandpa when he talks about taxes and surgery.

>>12814

>The irony of this post is that by assuming the position of moral superiority, it is you who looks like a smug asshole, not OP.

That's fine. Go on, be a rebel, but don't whine when you're staring down the grave you made for yourself.

>>muh profeshunuls!!!

That's a lovely and convenient way of rejecting things that disagree with your outlook because you don't like them.

>I really dislike you.

I didn't expect any less from someone who holds such opinions. Typical. Frankly, I really dislike the people who think of mental disorders as nothing more than quirkiness or out-of-the ordinary behavior that makes one a snowflake rather than the terrible and debilitating things they really are. They shouldn't be something to be proud of, that's like being proud of being an amputee because you have one less limb than most everyone else even though in reality, you're at a disadvantage.

Again, feel free to try and push that boulder over a hill, Sisyphus, but don't complain when the same results happen over and over. Go against the grain and the grain will go against you. If that's what you find satisfaction in, then I see no reason to complain other than out of hypocrisy. If it isn't, then it is you who is the problem, not everyone else. Is it always the case that someone is to blame for their problems? No as it can be involuntary as is the case with mental disorders, but that doesn't make it any less disorderly and neither is it a sort of 'get out of jail free' card.

>>12817

>Society is shaped and moulded by people who aren't afraid to go against the grain, in case you aren't aware.

I'd say it's destroyed. I'd say that such a line of thought is the very thing that leads to chaos, disorganization, and turns man back into a beast. But whatever.

>It must be a miserable existence

Actually, having a solid foundation with no compromise, a life with structure, is quite satisfying. Much more satisfying than the days when I was constantly trying to be something I'm not just for the sake of feeling like I mattered. I care very little for frivolity. I don't need your pity because I don't value it and there is nothing from that lifestyle which I find desirable.

You think you're different for being a rebel? You think you're unique for pushing against? lol the world is filled with people like you and because of that, one could even say that you aren't the rebellious ones at all anymore.

Enjoy this mindset while you can, because it can and will bite you in the ass someday.