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 No.2074

Hey.

Need advice on what do.

Studied for (midterm) exams. All went fine except one that I bombed worse than any grade I've ever received (failing grade). Like 27%.

It #rekt me. Didn't go to class, couldn't face the prof. In my stupidity during exam for written portion I wrote that I should probably off myself.

I've been thinking about suicide and homelessness for a year now. I'm looking to jump off a cliff because if I can just get enough to get over the edge then it's a lot easier than anything else I can think of as gravity will take care of the rest. There's a bridge over some train tacks, so if I get KO'd from pain of landing a train might finish me off.

So now prof knows and wants to meet. Should I just stop going to classes? I'm probably going to spend a year after graduation and take out loans (currently no debt but 100$ in my bank account) to give money or things back to my parents and then kill myself.

> tl;dr I'm a useless fuck and confessed to suicidal ideation on exam, what do?

 No.2112

My advice is just try to pick yourself up and recover from the failure. Brush yourself off and try again. I know it's hard but you should be able to do it if you really put yourself to it.

 No.2124

Meet up with prof, see if you can get sympathy points. He will most likely show some form of empathy for you and most likely show understanding.

 No.2147

I don't know about a cliff. There's still a chance of survival and a lot of survivors say they immediately regretted jumping off right after they did. I'm planning on using a 12 gauge shotgun for my suicide. It's one of the most lethal method and the least chance of survival. If you do off yourself, I'd recommend that.(USER FELL OFF A CLIFF FOR THIS POST)

 No.2164

>>2147
I'd rather not advising anyone like this.

>>2112
>This whole post.
Easier said than done.

OP, i know you aren't at the point of no return. Because i almost got myself more than once and i can tell you wouldn't have made fucking this thread if you were already decided. Calm down first. I can tell you, le prof is probably going to send you to the therapist, because she/he won't be able to handle your state of mind. When you get to the point of no return, you will not care about anything. Your cat/dog, your friends, family, gf/bf… Nothing will matter anymore. The end will be the only thing you want.
Imma tell you something. I am actually still suicidal… The way i want to end is by literally travelling the world, even in warzones. The further i go the more it will be worth it. I always think about how painful it will or just might be however. Debts will kill you even more because as long as you still live you will have to repay them. When i think about how it costs so much just to live on this earth while you can drink a nice cup of milk and relax just 10$ it makes me sick. (i bought a pack of sleeping pills. Took one for each bad memories, but my throat refused to swallow the 13th memory… in case you're curious.) I want to live innawoods in self-sufficiency so i won't pay anyone for anything…

Smoke weed man. A fun ball will appear inside your chest and make you laugh. Hold on like that.

 No.2165

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>>2147
Please do not encourage suicide on this board.

I don't want anyone on this board to kill themselves. I'd be devastated to find out any of you did.

 No.2173

You've still got life in you, OP. This failed exam will be a blip in your past 10 years from now.
Not saying that it;s not important, but nothing lasts forever mayne.

I suggest seeing a psychologist. In Australia, the government has a benefit where we can have x amount of free visits to a psychologist. So, see your local doctor (called general practitioner in Aus) and get a referral. Good luck and godspeed.

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>>2165
>Do not enourage suicide

Pffheheheh

We got such a sweetheart Volunteer!

 No.2176

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>>2074

You might wanna check >>>/suicide/

Reminder that an hero is for faggots anyway.

 No.2185

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>>2112
>>2124
It is more than this one incident. I've got no future career options and I'm already costing my friends and family money/time.

>>2147
Guns are not an option.

>>2164
I had originally planned to get everything in order for next year and do it in october (There's a set of numbers I like). I'm now just finding less and less reason to stick to my date/time and that my finalizing of trying to pay my parents back and all my friends and stuff. I'm not really seeing any point to classes or exams or anything anymore. So like, Why not just go right now.

> smoke weed man

I have 100$ to my name. I'd blow through any drugs I could get in a day.

>>2165
Should I move this thread to /suicide/ instead? While I'm not one for recording I was wondering how I'd let people know to look for it in whatever local paper.

>>2173
The forever is a lifetime of flipping burgers or serving coffee. If I ever ended up in a McJob I think that would seal the deal.

I just had my first visit for assessment today.

>>2176
> an hero is for faggots
True. If I was worth more I wouldn't be having these thoughts. It's a method of weeding out undesirables.
I think the super faggotry comes when I'd rather not suffer for any longer than I already am.

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>>2185
Your thread is fine here. No one on /suicide/ is going to give you an ounce of advice, they'll just try to get you to off yourself.

 No.2189

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>>2185
Lobsterdog was me.

Continuing:

I do not feel depressed.
I have difficulty sleeping. I have difficulty eating. I am usually quite nauseous in the morning which contributes to me not eating. I'm underweight. I have little energy for things. It gets harder and harder to walk to the bus stop for class.

I see myself as a burden to my friends and family, and now that I've involved myself in the health system I'm now taking away resources that could be used for a patient with much more severe case than me. I had attempted in my teens during highschool to hang myself, also after much consideration that I'm headed nowhere.


> Reasons:

1. If I had not been around, I'd have saved my parents hundreds of thousands of dollars. Dollars they could have used to better themselves or my siblings.
Similarly, I'll save my family more money by having my exit sooner than next year.

2. I wasted time. I had no energy to get out and volunteer, and for that I cannot compete with my peers. I have been unemployed for 3 years, and rejected/not received callbacks for any jobs. I have too much pride and am a dumb fuck for not just sucking up a shitty McJob where I hate myself every day.

3. My circles of friends all have their parents pay for everything. Half of them don't even pay for their own phone bill. This has given them a stark advantage against me. I will not ever come close to their success, and they wish me to take "any damn job" so I will be stuck and not have to be competition.

4. The research assistants, TAs and other grad students are clique-y and horrible people.

5. I will never have the grades to achieve my dream.

6. The people in positions/good careers have specific conditions met that allowed for it to happen. I do not have any of these and will never have any of these. My dice came up short, and everyone just wants to say deep down "suck it up and take what you've been dealt".
Stories of picking yourself up are too rare occurrences to be useful. They're used to keep people complacent and unrealistically optimistic. People see themselves as 'temporarily embarrassed millionaires', and that as long as they stay and "work hard" they will eventually be chosen by hollywood/someone and be rich and famous.

7. There is absolutely nothing any of the few good people in the world can do.

I do not have a pessimistic or depressed view. This is being realistic. To delude myself into thinking things will get better is just a sham. If anyone really cares, they'll see that: my future is set and it's terrible. Would you be any more unrealistically optimistic if our situations were switched? Would you like me telling you to lie to yourself that it'll all be okay, just so I can dismiss you and move on, knowing full well you're fucked and I've got it so much better?

I don't want to ever let tomorrow come, because that means I have to wake up. Waking up means another day where nothing changes, that I'm just closer to the inevitable realization that I should not be here. There is nothing on my horizon.

People will say "yeah lol life is suffering, man up." but it's just so they know one more person is suffering along with them. One more person will join them in fearing death and scurrying around, cheating, stealing, lying, all justified in their fear of death.

Same with telling people about this. They will ask you to stay alive for their sake. Which is infuriatingly dismissive. Their suffering of my disappearance will only marginally affect them for a fraction of their life.

I've been afraid to write anything down for fear someone I know will get a hold of it and run with it, removing my free will by getting me hospitalized. I may remember more of my justifications soon.

 No.2190

>>2188
I would jokingly wish to tell them I'll do a flip. Landing neck/head first is key.

 No.2191

>>2190
I used to joke that if I ever jumped off a building I'd do a 450 splash like a professional wrestler.

 No.2192

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>>2191
Lol.

What made you change your mind?
At some point I once had some thing or multiple things holding me back. But now I can't really come up with anything THAT important, and any emotional effects will be transient.

 No.2194

>>2192
Ironically I only made jokes about killing myself when I had no urge to, and the jokes stopped when I felt like I wanted to.

I never actually wanted to do it by jumping off a building.

 No.2203

>>2074
Please don't do it. Your concerns about the burden you place on your parents are ridiculous. No matter how much you think you cost them, they still love you. Your life is worth more than there is money on this planet.
Talk to your teacher. He might show you the way to a therapist. You need help from a professional.
DO NOT GIVE UP! Go see your therapist, and trust him. Try verbal treatment first. If that doesn't work, try an antidepressant. You should see a huge increase in life force in a few days, maybe weeks. If it doesn't work, try another one. Antidepressants are highly specific.
Talk to your parents.
Once you depression is being treated and maybe reclining, you'll notice everything is easier.
I had trouble in high school in the 5th year, blew it, got medication, slowly recovered. 6th year was hard. Motivation was low.
By the 7th year, A levels, I had stopped taking pills. I was mostly healthy. The A levels were ridiculously easy after that.

 No.2204

>>2189
> I have little energy for things. It gets harder and harder to walk to the bus stop for class.

>I see myself as a burden to my friends and family, and now that I've involved myself in the health system I'm now taking away resources that could be used for a patient with much more severe case than me.

Dude. That is depression. See a professional ASAP.

 No.2205

>>2204
I feel exactly the same as OP in those respects, I think I am a complete burden on everyone. Trying to help though but I am skeptical the help will really be helpful. Still I can hope.

I am at least glad I am not alone in those specific thoughts though.

 No.2212

>oh boohooo i can't complete college and suceed financially

fuck you nigger
half the world goes hungry everyday and you make a shit thread like this

i hope you fail college and drink a nice cup of milk and relax loser(USER FAILED COLLEGE FOR THIS POST)

 No.2213

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>>2203
> Talk to your parents.
I know you may think this is a good idea, like telling someone to come out to their parents, but I guarantee you it will cause more harm than good.

> Once you depression is being treated

This is not depression. This is a realistic view. It feels much more anxiety related, but otherwise is a symptom, not a cause of the suicidality.


>>2205
It would seem there will likely be quite a few of us who realize early that our cohort have better life trajectories than we ever will. Having them tell us to just be okay with that is both demeaning and insensitive.

 No.2214

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To rule out hypothyroidism (which I believe my mother may also be suffering from), I have a doctor's appointment in a few hours.

There might be other tests with the doctor, but the only way they'd get me to take anti-depressants is by force.

My exit date still stands if my circumstances don't improve dramatically. My standards for improvement are too steep, so I'm feeling I'll still be on track for all of this.

I'm very reluctant for any of this, because more energy is just useless at this point. I also don't see a reason to change my view, which just leaves the suicidality. If this is the only concern of the therapist/doctor, then I'll just tell them I'm fine and leave.

 No.2216

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>>2213
>healthy person:
I cost my parents money.
I think I should do a good job in college and get a job, so they see me being successful and they can be proud. If I fail at college, I'll just try to get a job. I'm sure my parents don't even mind as long as I get a job.
>person with clinical depression:
I'm a burden on my parents.
They think I'm nothing but a burden.
They don't love me.
I'll never be able to complete college.
I'll never get a job.
I'll never be happy.
I'll never be able to make my parents happy.
Because of this, I should end my life.
My view is realistic.

Your view is all but realistic. Depression lurks in your mind, covering all with a dark cloth. It sucks the life out of you, it blocks every happy thought.
Depression contorts reality inside your brain. To you, you views and thought are realistic, but you are a mere observer, a passenger while depression pulls all the levers to make you miserable.
When was the last time you really were happy about something?
Do you even have positive memories anymore?
When was the last time you looked out of your window, saw the Sun in all its life giving glory, and thought "what a beautiful day to be alive"?
When was the last time you were fascinated by something?

Depression isn't feeling sad constantly.
Depression is way more cruel. It devours light and replaces it with cold darkness.

Don't you dare give up! The illness that lives inside of you covers your eyes and feeds you false information!
Don't believe your own thoughts. Don't give in to deaths temptation! GET HELP!

 No.2218

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>>2213
>>2216
You might think death is sweet relief.
But behind that curtain, there is nothing.
No hell, no heaven, no glory.
You won't exist to be happy about not having to care anymore.
What you will leave behind though, is horrible.
Your death will cause sorrow beyond belief, your parents, your friends, they will go through all circles of hell. They will die a thousand deaths, they will be ripped apart by sadness, driven mad by you ceasing to exist.
Tell me, and I wanna hear it, tell me now: ==DO YOU WANT YOUR RELATIVES TO GO THROUGH SUCH TORMENT?==
And by whatever entity you may worship, your answer better be no.
Suicide would be the most selfish thing you could ever do.
Why do you think is murder such a heinous crime? Not only does it kill someone, it erases someone from existence. All their dreams, all their memories, EVERYTHING gone forever. A whole legacy destroyed.
And suicide is just the same.

So don't you fucking dare, mister.
Now take your god damn phone, and call whoever the fuck you have to call to get in contract with a shrink. I don't fucking care if you don't want.
In your condition, what you want is what the demons inside of you want. So get that shit done, and fast. No slacking.
And then lift your sorry ass and go to that fucking appointment. And don't start with your fucking "HURR NO ANTIDEPRESSANTS FOR ME IM NOT DEPRESSED hurrderdeurue I'm so strong I need no help from nobody fhdjashkfjdhlafjdhal"-bullshit. If I read that one more fucking time, I'll find you and I'll come over and kick your ass so hard you can tie my shoelaces with your stupid tongue.

 No.2219

Strange, post started with Quote pointer to 2193…
>>2216
You feel people personally owe their parents that much? Happy people are just unrealistically okay with everything. I doubt they think that much. If they did, they are no better than me. The decisions they make are for the betterment of others.
Likewise, I am miserable. If anyone cares, my morose state merely causes THEM suffering too.

The only greedy thing people focus on is the suicide. If you remove the suicidality, no one cares about anything. This is a horrible way to hold people hostage in order to improve their lives, you are saying they must be at the last of their options for you to care. Then, you only focus on the suicide, and not the cause. This is tremendously childish and short sighted.

>>2218
I guess this is supposed to be a tough love post? Threat of violence like this would mean I should instead end myself if someone else seeks to end me. But thank you anyway troll, you remind me that people are so self centered they will ignore all my other words and threaten to beat me senseless in some bizarre attempt to keep me alive and wanting to stay alive. Please re read your flavour in your post. I don't see it as particularly helpful to anyone, but it is portrayed in media and movies as a viable option to snap people out of a blue mood, ironic how you use an iconic character from an iconic scene in an iconic film.

I do not feel I am stronger than medication. On the contrary: I see the medication as unnecessary as it will forcibly change parts of me I think are just fine.
Also, I know virtually all antidepressant drugs are not worth the side effects. Instead we should be focusing on the cortisol system has a broken feedback loop for persons suffering with depression. There is a cortisol test I can take to see if my body responds appropriately.
If it does, it is highly unlikely I have depression, or at least any depressive state requiring medication.

My dreams and "legacy" and whatnot are already unattainable. It is inappropriate to pretend they are still on the table. Removing myself is a consequence of that, not the other way around.

 No.2221

>>2219
If you hate your life so much that you turn down every attempt at help, fine.
I'm sorry I wasted your time.

 No.2223

>>2216
You do not know my parents, but I understand you are responding under the assumption they are similar to yours. Alternatively, you could be assuming I am being unreasonable, and for that to be true I would need a good set of parents with positive views of me.
This is not the case. I have cost them money and continue to do so. My inability to find work, and my useless degree is a badge of shame.

> I'll never be able to complete college.

I can apply for graduation at any time. I just am no longer under the illusion things will somehow magically improve after I have a piece of paper from the University.

> I'll never get a job.

I said before, I could get a job flipping burgers or serving coffee. Not only would I then certainly know my life cannot improve as neither of these positions yield any relevant work experience to make me a more attractive employee, but also after I realise my doom I will have money. The small pittance will never be enough to live on my own, so I will likely consume whatever drugs I can get my hands on. I'd be looking forward to alcohol, as it is both a way to tune out and also a lot of calories that my body needs.
If I reached that state, then you all would certainly see me as a waste of space. If you saw me on TV or head about me from your social circles you would agree I should be kicked out and let to rot and die as a waste of space.
I am realistic in that I see this early.

> I'll never be happy.

I had doomed most from the start. I had delusioned most into believing I could somehow achieve things.
Any alternative would be to ask me to be happy with less. The "less" is truly a worthless future.


Just finished the doctors appointment for a referral for blood work and other things. I will look at the chart when I'm not in public.

My first counseling session is next week immediately after a midterm. They offered one today at 3 but I declined. It seemed like a trap.

Although oddly I now have urges to get off the bus or just start walking, then crawl into a secluded walkway and fall asleep somewhere.

 No.2317

>>2194
Strangem because I work the opposite way.

Whenever I get the urge to, I make jokes about it 24/7 and obsess over suicide. I'd even take boat rides out a few miles thinking of where the act'd be done so I could sink to the bottom of the ocean and hopefully get eaten.

 No.2348

>>2219
Now that drill sarge in particular is a shit. But R Lee probably made a fine one in real life. And I'd imagine they could help you snap out of depression temporarily; motivate you. It's their job to get you to do things you probably don't want to do or are scared of, and to do them right. But at the same time, they don't let depressed people into the army.

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>>9977

let this be our final battle


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everyone is too hyped over the /v/ 4M


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okay lets not sage it this time


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or we might

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>>2176

>Reminder that an hero is for hobosexuals anyway

If that was true there would be more people killing themselves.


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>>11661

hello, friend


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>>12304

hello friendly friend




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