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This board will not take the place of a mental healthcare professional and should not be used as one.

Any and all posts asking for a diagnosis, advice on medication, or anything else that only your doctor is qualified to make judgments on will be locked immediately.

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 No.2801

You know what one thing that makes me feel squicky about therapy?

It feels like there's a thin line between objectively treating an illness and subjectively imposing a moral agenda, and the therapists often zig-zag over that line.

Anyone else notice this?

 No.2807

Yeah. You gotta kind manipulate them sometimes just to get what you need.

 No.2810

If they're professional, they'll help you improve things you want to improve.

 No.2831

>>2801
my therapist never tried to force any type of moral agenda on me. He just tried to make me happy, and helped me quite a lot by e.g. telling me that my antisocial behavior and me being introverted are no personallity disorders, but merely quirks of me.

 No.3112

I got some clear line-stepping with my first therapist.

One I've got now is much more understanding, willing to let me have my own opinions.

Guess it varies from one professional to another.

 No.3117

I hate going to therapist for this reason but, I have found that psychiatrists are better at avoiding doing so psychologists just do to psychiatrists having the power to prescribe.

 No.3165

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>3117
The trade off tends to be that psychiatrists often have less experience doing therapy. The reason they have the power to prescribe medication is because they're essentially a neurologist that subspecializes in mental illness. They go to medical school and do residencies and all that jazz, and it usually means they spend less time studying the more, well, psychological aspects and methods of therapy. They often come at it like a medical doctor. What are your symptoms? Sounds like such and such, here are the pills to treat such and such, come back in a week and tell me if the symptoms get better and if you get any side effects.

Most people need more than that, they need to learn new ways to think, new ways to cope, and more perspective on why they feel the way they do.

 No.3185

>>3165
I guess that's what I meant, but I don't really give a shit about someones view on my problems and i really don't trust people enough to "understand" how my mind works and expect me to believe the bullshit about how figuring out my problems or whatever lies they tell.

 No.3190

Not here.

My therapy has consisted of group meetings mostly and talking with my psychiatrist when I meet her to change or check up on medications and such.

She never asks me how I feel about this and that, never tries to tell me how to live my life, how to think, act or any of that personal, subjective stuff. She knows better. She just gives advice, and we talk about what I have difficulties doing and try to find a way to fix it.

Do you really need a psychologist to talk to? I'm sure you know exactly what's going on inside your heads and don't need a psychologist to interpret it and coddle you for money. Psychiatrists are the real deal, always much more professional and helpful.

 No.3199

>>3190
>Do you really need a psychologist to talk to?

Yes. Many do. If you honestly feel like you manage your mental illness well enough as it is, good on you. But a lifetime of mental illness absolutely influences the way you live, behave and think, in an often dysfunctional way. Your mind starts to operate in the context of your illness. And depending on the person, the severity of their illness, and how long they've been like that, it can be monumentally difficult to break those habits. And that's not something medication will do for you, and not everyone is capable of figuring out on their own. And even if you are, a good psychologist can help you get there faster.

But the thing about the brain is that it's "plastic". While the brain ultimately is your mind, through purposefully monitoring and changing your own thought patterns and behavior, you can in turn influence your brain. It will actually change, physically, just by trying to think and act in different ways.

It's like being in an accident and then taking the painkillers and meds but then skipping the physical therapy because fuck it, you already learned how to use a wheelchair, you don't need to walk.

And it's also not like psychology and psychiatry don't go hand in hand. Psychology is to psychiatry what theoretical physics is to experimentalists. Much of what psychologists do has clinical evidence.

 No.3209

>>3199
Should have specified I was primarily talking about bipolar disorder. I can't talk about other disorders as I haven't experienced them. Except ADHD. And all I really need personally with those is good advice. I guess if I felt trapped with my thoughts, venting to a psychologist would feel good, but besides that I can't see how a psychologist could help, and a psychiatrist will give you all the advice a psychologist could.

 No.3212

>>3209
so, you just need a good friend, right?

 No.3214

>>3212
I guess, but a psychologist isn't it. Not for me.



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