/mental/ - Mental Health, Illnesses and Disorders

>>2985
>I don't think he had a disorder

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3101504/

>“Despite these caveats, the definition of mental disorder that was included in DSM-III and DSM-III-R is presented here because it is as useful as any other available definition and has helped to guide decisions regarding which conditions on the boundary between normality and pathology should be included in DSM-IV. In DSM-IV, each of the mental disorders is conceptualized as a clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual and that is associated with present distress (e.g., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom. In addition, this syndrome or pattern must not be merely an expectable and culturally sanctioned response to a particular event, for example, the death of a loved one. Whatever its original cause, it must currently be considered a manifestation of a behavioral, psychological, or biological dysfunction in the individual. Neither deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individual, as described above.”

-DSM-IV

Let's take that excerpt of parameters

>a clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual and that is associated with present distress (e.g., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom.

>behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual and that is associated with present distress (e.g., a painful symptom)

Psychopathy/Antisocial?
>>3059
>psychopathic.
psychopathic personality disorder is practically a "waste basket" category, it really describes a comorbidity of multiple disorders, but primarily centers around anti-social personality disorder

In spite of it's vernacular usage, "anti social" personality disorder is generally marked by Machiavellian, delinquent behavior, with lots of impulsive violence and impulsive lying.

Rodger did show impulsiveness in the latter stages of his life, but his withdrawn character is really a far cry from the larger-than-life type of attitude that anti-socials carry. A 16 year old with a dead beat dad that skips school and gets into tons of fights would be the typical archetype of anti-social personality disorder.

>tl;dr "anti social" isn't just a synonym for "hates people," but instead describes a very specific disorder which Rodger doesn't match up to very well

Unlikely



Schizotypal

Schizotypal, on the other hand, is marked by delusions, hermit-like tendencies, and fear of others/society, which describes him to a tee.

>The American Psychiatric Association defined Schizotypal Personality Disorder as a "pervasive pattern of social and interpersonal deficits marked by acute discomfort with, and reduced capacity for, close relationships as well as by cognitive or perceptual distortions and eccentricities of behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts".[20]

- DSM-IV-TR

Very Likely



Narcissistic

And my case for narcissistic personality disorder

>Symptoms of this disorder, as defined by the DSM-IV-TR, include:[1]
>Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without superior accomplishments
>Expects constant attention, admiration and positive reinforcement from others
>Envies others and believes others envy him/her
>Is preoccupied with thoughts and fantasies of great success, enormous attractiveness, power, intelligence
>Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others
>Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior
>Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic

Almost Certain

>>3159
>I'm sorry but you clearly don't have a schizophrenia spectrum disease because you don't seem to understand that just because he had interpersonal issues.
Schizotypal disorder may in some cases be a precursor to schizophrenia, but they are certainly distinct disorders. They aren't synonyms, I said he has schizotypal, not schizophrenic. Stop trying to use "schizophrenia spectrum" as a strawman to make it sound like I'm claiming he had schizophrenia. He didn't.

>you don't seem to understand that just because he had interpersonal issues.
Have you actually read his manifesto? It's not just a case of somebody not getting laid losing his mind. His distrust of others and narcissism far predate puberty and go back to mid elementary school. And again, if a "personal issue" is causing self destruction or violence it's a disorder.

>People with schizotype diseases not only lack close relationships, but they lack the NEED for close relationships.
SchizotypAL disorder, learn to spell. And it's schizoid, not schizotypal that show detached disinterest in socialization. Schizotypal is characterized by fear and distrust of others (not unlike paranoid disorder), eccentric behavior, and delusions. Rodger had all of those things.


>Rodgers was desperate, not hermit-like at all, he emphatically pursued relationships unsuccessfully.
But he was hermit-like, he states it in the manifesto, and everybody acquainted with him can confirm this. And he desired status validation, not meaningful connections with others. Again, it doesn't sound like you actually read his manifesto

>Furthermore, his histrionic behavior online and his egotism is just not concurrent with everything we know about the schizophrenia spectrum.
You realize it's perfectly possible to have narcissistic and schizotypal disorders without being schizophrenic? Fuck off with this "schizotypal is schizophrenia" strawman

Histrionic is the only cluster B trait he really showed at all

>Put the DSM down, internet armchair psychiatrist.
Says he who fucks up basic vocabulary.


Actually read the source material before you make an ass of yourself any further

Honestly he was pretty attractive. Even his personality type. I'd have fucked him

>2014
>all the boys I know are swagfag white trash

What's the difference between Elliot Rodger and an egg?

One gets laid before it cracks.