/mental/ - Mental Health, Illnesses and Disorders

>is this how people will see me?
Probably. Despite what any supporters may say, it is quite easy to spot a trans. Some go through with the operation/hormone chemicals far better than others…some far worse. An easy giveaway is usually how their hands are shaped as well as their jaw-line.

Another thing you have to remember is that no matter how much you change your external appearance, you will always have male chromosomes. Your biological sex will always be male no matter what way you reshape how you look on the outside.

>What about my daughter? Will she grow up being mocked because of me?
It is almost inevitable. Kids in schools will pick anything they can to make fun of someone because, frankly, most kids are not the sweet little dumplings too many people depict them as. Having a parent who is trans is likely going to make your daughter a prime target of ridicule.

>Will my family freak out and abandon me when I begin transitioning?
That depends on what ideals your family holds true. Chances are, if your family holds any strong religious and/or conservative backgrounds, they will try everything in their power to sway you from the decision.

Do note that I am not trying to be offensive here, just stating things as they are.

As a side note and opinion, I really wish there were a way to fix trans people as opposed to just letting them go through with an operation. I honestly believe it to be a mental illness that was only rubbed out of being a mental illness because of silly "progressive" bullcrap. I think of it as a disorder that is in dire need of treatment, not something that should really be encouraged. You have my pity, OP. Whatever happens, I hope you find your way in life.

>I identify as a woman. I'm a lesbian.
>I also suffer from major depression and schizoid personality disorder (Diagnosed professionally. Not by a test online). I take 3 different psychiatric medications and a sleeping aid at night just to "Get through the day" I almost went homeless because I've been so miserable.

What does this "identity" mean for you?
Because this looks like classic projection.

>>8531
>encouraged
I don't think it's comparable to substance abuse or anorexia. SRS is not harmful in the same way, and is monitored by doctors.

I feel like it's a combination of BDD and gender issues.

OP, check out Sue Dunn Emm. I'm not sure about their sexuality but they're usually loved for their art.

And if you put any effort into your appearance, you won't look like chris. at all.

>>8547

My identity makes me happy. I feel whole. Warm. My depression washes away and I can smile and realize that I don't have to be judged by my gender - at least by myself.

I don't hate myself when I'm her.

>>8584
So you aren't a transsexual in the empirical sense, meaning that you developed hermafroditism due to a hormonal disbalance during fetal development.

Instead, you attach everything you hate about yourself to you being a male. Your "identity" as a female is an escape from this, like I said, classic projection.

You're going to be awfully if you do ruin your body with hormones, the problem is mental, not physical.

>>8607
>Instead, you attach everything you hate about yourself to you being a male.
Is this why trannies have a 50% suicide rate, isn't it? They blame the problem on something else instead of dealing with it properly and pinning it all one thing causing all their problems?

>>8643
Yes. It's not as they claim because of "oppreshun", when you look at people who are actually oppressed, such as Christians in the Middle East and slum dwellers in Lagos, the suicide rate is much lower than among transgenders.

This will get much, much worse. The transsexuality hype gives empty people an identity, a hugbox, sympathy, praise, victim status.. everything they crave for. It's what emo was 10 years ago, with the exception that emo's didn't fuck up their bodies beyond a few cuts and piercings.

We have mentally unstable people getting irreversible body mutilations, it's the lobotomy of the modern era and we're going to be awfully sorry for it in 20 years.

>>8664
Well, there are people who end up switching back and try and promote taking the time to figure shit out without jumping onto the band wagon. All these people rushing their kids to take hormone stoppers and whatever is going to fuck them up so bad.

Plus there are those sort who are in the anti-male hate group/cult mentality. Definitely some men are going to fuck themselves up with that beyond the standard beta self-hating attitude you see a lot.

(Not related to OP, sorry, but I see that self-hating beta male stuff spouted so often, I'm just waiting for somebody to go further and wind up killing himself.)

They're like those people that want to be crippled and intentionally chop their arms off and shit.

>>8584
>judging yourself by your gender
whhhyyy

don't!

others might, but they're either conservative assholes or feminazis. I know it sucks to be judged because of your sex, personally. I talk to my psychologist about it. He helps me remember that, no, I'm not my gender. My gender doesn't define my personality. I'm not a womanbeating asshole or a doormat. I'm fine being alone rather than being in an abusive relationship with my ex.

>>8668
>a bunch of misinformed partisan bullshit
>grow the fuck up

lol

there are problems with becoming tranny, and it won't magically solve the OP's problems, but there is no point in exaggarating and lying on the anti-trans side either.

>by no measure will you ever actually be a woman

except by your social role, which is precisely what matters to people who feel like they are the wrong gender.

>sex will never be truly pleasurable for you again

not true

>you'll never have full, natural-looking breasts

not true either - Lots of guys grow feminine breasts with just hormones, and most women have huge breasts. Subtle, well-done implants are not detectable by the eye or otherwise. After all, you are (probably) only getting implants so as to have normal breasts, not enlarging your breasts to an unnatural size.

>your voice will always be a dead giveaway of your gender

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8UdcKfw528

>you cannot change your gender any more than you can change your race, age or species

you can change your gender if "gender" is defined as your gender role in society. You can be a female to others. That's just a matter of getting away with it. I don't think most trannies care if their sex changes in a biological or a somehow philosophical, essential sense. They just want to live as girls.

>>8671
I mean most women *don't* have huge breasts.

>>8671
>>a bunch of misinformed partisan bullshit
Look at all the sources you're not providing for that statement!

>except by your social role, which is precisely what matters to people who feel like they are the wrong gender.

Born with a Y chromosome? You're male, period. Most of society will regard you this way as well, people are by no means required to "respect the pronouns" or the mentally ill.

>not true
Evidence? I can link you to articles with dissatisfied post-ops if you like. Where's your evidence? Personal anecdote?

>I mean most women *don't* have huge breasts.

First issue with this, I never said "huge" but you have to take into account that the worldwide average (I repeat: AVERAGE) size is D. There are women with natural JJJ cups. Yes, they do exist, and they're quite common.

We're not even talking about huge breasts though, I simply said they had to look "normal" and implants are extremely obvious and easy to spot. Very few surgeons can give you convincing implants, and if you get small ones they look even more obviously fake. On the occasions where they look almost convincing, this is generally because the women had a decent size to begin with, MtF start out flat, and even a flat woman getting implants ends up with something ridiculous looking because of how the skin has to be stretched. Real breasts don't jut out as complete circles straight on the chest, and you'd have to be completely delusional or outright dishonest to assure someone to the contrary. Shame on you for lying to this person.

>the youtube link

So, your evidence to the contrary is a cherry-picked example of someone where it was so obvious this was a ladyboy that all the videos immediately identify him as such, and that they sound female when singing? Someone's singing voice is a different matter altogether, lots of men can sound like women when they sing, it's speaking voice that matters, and this thai ladyboy still has that twinge of male in his voice when speaking.

You may as well have used Cezar to make this argument: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV3xp5ZXSYA

>They just want to live as girls.

Which is called crossdressing, plain and simple.

>>8668
I agree fully with this.

It's rare that you see real truth like this posted in tranny threads.

>>8671
>you can change your gender if "gender" is defined as your gender role in society

What do you mean with "gender role in society". I don't know if you're an SJW, but that's heresy for them.

If with "gender role in society" you mean stereotypicla behavior, then you are saying that a female lumberjack is not a woman and that a male babysit is not a man. Which is obvious bullshit, and you know it, you're just using because it suits your argument.

>>8679
I mean you will be treated as a girl. You will be expected to act like a girl rather than like a boy in all your interactions. There is a different dynamic depending on your gender, regardless of what feminists and the like want to say.

fwiw I'm not an SJW nor a tranny, but I know a couple of trannies. I'm not advocating for OP to become one, only that OP makes an informed decision. The trannies I know remain kind of fucked in the head even after passing as women, but they are happy in their gender roles at least.

>>8674
>Look at all the sources you're not providing for that statement!

Look at all the sources provided for the original statements!

>Born with a Y chromosome? You're male, period. Most of society will regard you this way as well, people are by no means required to "respect the pronouns" or the mentally ill.

It doesn't matter if they "respect the pronouns" if they take you as female, which is simply a matter how how convincing a tranny you make. I know people who pass easily as girls, have straight guys flirt with them on the street etc.

>We're not even talking about huge breasts though, I simply said they had to look "normal" and implants are extremely obvious and easy to spot. Very few surgeons can give you convincing implants, and if you get small ones they look even more obviously fake. On the occasions where they look almost convincing, this is generally because the women had a decent size to begin with, MtF start out flat, and even a flat woman getting implants ends up with something ridiculous looking because of how the skin has to be stretched. Real breasts don't jut out as complete circles straight on the chest, and you'd have to be completely delusional or outright dishonest to assure someone to the contrary. Shame on you for lying to this person.

Good implants don't jut out in complete circles, and many trannies grow passable breasts just from hormones.
http://bevhillstg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/TGBreast2.jpg
http://pschr.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/breast-augmentation-08b-548x230.jpg
http://www.mpsmn.com/photogallery/breast-augmentation-breast-enlargement-with-implants-5858/case-3-21713
http://www.mpsmn.com/photogallery/breast-augmentation-breast-enlargement-with-implants-5858/case-2-21695

of course you have to choose your clinic carefully.

>So, your evidence to the contrary is a cherry-picked example of someone where it was so obvious this was a ladyboy that all the videos immediately identify him as such, and that they sound female when singing? Someone's singing voice is a different matter altogether, lots of men can sound like women when they sing, it's speaking voice that matters, and this thai ladyboy still has that twinge of male in his voice when speaking.

The videos identify her as a ladyboy because that is the point of the video, and obviously whoever uploaded it had watched it to the end.

As for Cezar, he has a male tenor voice. The girl in the first video would be taken as female if not for the context in which she's identified as a transexual. Hers sounds like a female voice with a hint of huskiness, which is not uncommon in biological girls and does not immediately cause you to suspect them of being trannies.

>Which is called crossdressing, plain and simple.

It is called transsexualism or, at least, transgenderism. Crossdressing is simply wearing the clothes of the opposite gender. We're talking about identifying with the opposite gender and taking on their social role. If the person feels like she is a woman, and she looks like a woman to herself and to others so that she can live as a woman, then her chromosomes are irrelevant from her own perspective, regardless of whether they make her male under the definitions you want to use.

oh, as for sex and pleasure post-op,
https://www.google.fi/search?q=transsexual+post-op+orgasm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=doAQVZygO9HsaI6IgrAK

>>8687
It might well be that trangenders want to be treated as a girl. They feel they aren't doing well as men, so they try being a woman.

Which is like I said before, projection, and will only make them end up worse.

>>8668
I agree with you but it's hard to take you seriously when you close with "Grow the fuck up."

What has your history with women been like OP?
Are you finding that women want to be dominated, don't need to put as much effort into sex and generally don't like it when you aren't manly? I'm projecting here, but that's the only time I've felt similar.

My advise is don't transition. There are a lot of physical problems and you may never orgasm again.

TRy to find peace wih yourself mentally and physically, but changing either of them won't help you cope