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321b25 No.79815

HOTWHEELS DON'T GIVE UP!

8CHAN CAN WORK, I KNOW IT CAN!

PLEASE…

8f9b0b No.79962

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This is now a hotwheels appreciation thread.

I love you, hotwheels. <3


d0131a No.79964

I'll second these sentiments.


697737 No.79969

>Thinking there were any new users anyway.

Toppest of fucking keks. Check the traffic when /fph/ was created, there was barely a massive reddit exodus coming in here and Hotman himself had said on the stream that they were going to leave anyway.


8f9b0b No.79974

>>79969

I'm really just worried about the hotman himself.

I don't want to lose 8chan.

And I don't want 8chan to lose hotwheels.

Whatever happens? I'm staying on 8chan.

I'm riding out this shitstorm.


1b4595 No.79992

>>79974

This place is dying dude since its hosted on 2ch. Even if anons didn't raid /fph/ (even though its second nature to do so) this place would have still go on its way to its deathbed.

Only thing I don't understand about that is that GG managed to raise funds for feminists to get women into games yet they cannot fund the site itself. Probably because most of them hate anon.


d0131a No.80019

>>79992

>This place is dying

so is 4chan

>since its hosted on 2ch

grammatically incompetent non sequitur

>this place would have still go

you speak of le uh bookbook? vas is da


321b25 No.80020

>>79992

>This place is dying dude

[citation needed]


d0131a No.80023

>>80020

Well, actually, even Twitter is "dying" as in contracting. They had to fire their CEO. My hope is that it's the way they're run, and that Hotwheels and co. stay the course and capitalize on their loss. My fear is that it's not how they're run, and internet talking is just less popular now, for some reason, like how even lab animals with controlled diets are getting fatter.


8b4d39 No.80024

>>80019

>so is 4chan

lel no


d0131a No.80026

>>80024

>lel

But that's a 4chan catchphrase. Of course you're going to say that it's still alive, even though the last widely relevant thing they produced was gamergate, and Moot (RIP) destroyed the culture so that it could be replaced by boring, 18-25-year-old-girl-friendly S4S funposting. /b/ is half as fast as it was in '09, /v/ is reduced to embarrassing, mod-promoted "winter balls". The textboards are closed. The owner's stepped down. You have to submit your dox to mod. 2ch allied themselves with a competitor. It's over, man.


1b4595 No.80028

>>80019

>>80020

I really couldn't care less if you can't handle the facts, Hotman said it himself.

>>>/meta/24007


1b4595 No.80029

>>80028

>>>/operate/24007

*fixed


d0131a No.80031

>>80029

What are you quoting? There's nothing in there about 4chan's health, nor is there really anything about ours, unless you want to use the most oblique of interpretations.


992b15 No.80034

I should write a wall of text about what all altchans are doomed to fail, because they are.


992b15 No.80035

>>80023

Maybe the whole internet is dying because the modern society that supports it is dying too.


1b4595 No.80037

>>80031

>What are you quoting?

The admin of this site.

>There's nothing in there about 4chan's health

I never claimed 4chan was alive or never mentioned anything about 4chan.

>nor is there really anything about ours, unless you want to use the most oblique of interpretations.

>no new users are coming.

>they can barely process any payments for the hosting.

>Japanese ads make barely anything.

Stay retarded faggot.


bedc4c No.80039

>>80037

Who gives a shit?

There will always be another chan to go to.


959ed6 No.80040

>>80035

Chans are dying because there are too many parasitic faggots that don't produce content and waste precious bandwith. Unlike the 00's when a smaller userbase actually produced a lot more content.

As for the rest of the Internet, due to all the corporations and orientation on profits and profits alone, it's becoming just as shitty as IRL. The braindead normalfags don't help.


d0131a No.80041

>>80034

You should, because right now, it looks like you're just a #janiteam/#team4chan person with opinions that heavily favor your in-group. Yeah, alt-chans are all eternally doomed. Except for 420chan, for some reason! Moot always adds that and handwaves it as being "because it fills a niche". Meanwhile, Kirtaner is a feminist and aGGro who has mostly ceded authority to Spardot.

>>80037

Hotwheels:

>secret club mentality will kill this place

Note WILL. You're misreading this.


d0131a No.80048

>>80040

I'd like to amend my accusation and agree in a qualified way with what you're saying. Yes, chans are having a hard time, but I think that the steady encroachment of prog missionaries on 4chan's staff (and ultimately the culture, given that it's administered from the top down) gives us an edge. After all, the only real point of anonymity is saying stuff that might wreck your reputation, and if you can't offer that on an anonymous site, your service lacks a point.


1b4595 No.80050

>>80041

>Ignoring the fact that barely any new users are coming.

>Ignoring the fact that the ads barely make any money.

>Ignoring the fact that the has can barely process the payments to keep this site alive.

>Ignoring the fact barely anybody donates to him.

Skip to 23:00:

http://www.hitbox.tv/video/552631

>>80039

>Who gives a shit?

The people which like this chan? But whatever, all this drama is good to watch anyway.


d0131a No.80066

>>80050

I went to 23:00. He's talking about Reddit and tripcodes, and how /int/ is rowdy? This doesn't have anything to do with what we're discussing. I'm like three minutes in and hearing nothing about it.

>all this drama is good to watch anyway.

But you're not watching. You're posting about the site in a way that suggests you're antipathetic towards it.


d0131a No.80067

>>80050

And even (big "if") if we accept that all of the things you said are true, and that a site's economic health immediately after inception correlates with its future success, despite this not being true for 4chan, "barely any" is still "some". "1% growth" is still "growth". So, you know. I don't really agree with any of your conclusions.


1b4595 No.80074

>>80066

>But you're not watching. You're posting about the site in a way that suggests you're antipathetic towards it.

But I am watchin. I am lurking multiple threads which is /intl/ and other boards such as /b/,/cow/ and /bane/ all having a war at each other constantly shitting at each other. I don't see how saying that this site is not gaining any new users along with the financial problems Hotman faces means I am antipathetic to this site.

>I went to 23:00. He's talking about Reddit and tripcodes, and how /int/ is rowdy? This doesn't have anything to do with what we're discussing. I'm like three minutes in and hearing nothing about it.

>thinking /int/ and /intl/ are the same.

>not realizing that redditors cannot adapt because to 8chan because of the lack of features like flare's that were on reddit.

>>80067

I don't know why the fuck you keep bringing 4chan up, I rarely mentioned it in my post and have no idea why you keep bringing it up. But whatever, if you're too blind enough to see that rarely any new users come to this site along with barely being able to cover the costs to cover this site which is $2K won't make 2ch (the people who own the domain) pull the plug then be my guest.


7bc0a5 No.83418

give up on the hot potato


43f8b8 No.83428

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>>79815

you know it's already long over when people feel the need to make threads like this.


b24807 No.83429

LOOOOOOOOL

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


fa2492 No.83432

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watching the slow trickle away from the set is the best part, like a leaky faucet.

embrace it


983f6b No.83435

>>80037

>they can barely process any payments for the hosting.

But the hosting doesn't need paying for, 2ch covers it.

People donate for hotwheel's living expenses. Did you not know that? That's seriously where all the money goes. 2ch handles hosting fees.

That's my understanding of how 8chan works, anyways.

And if that is true, then 8chan could survive without generating a penny from donations ect, as long as 2ch keeps it up.

Paying hotwheels just allows him to focus all of his attention on 8chan.

But honestly, that isn't necessary. Supporting the sysop is not a requirement of a chan. If Hotwheels has to go back to being a pitybag for a kike, or maybe do novelty porn or whatever to pay his bills, the site will be fine.

There are many, many way more popular sites and forums with mods that do it for free. Hotwheels did it for free in the beginning, he'll do it for free later if/when it comes to that. Or somebody else will if he ends up on the streets in flipland where somebody will probably sell him as medical waste.


13defe No.83444

>>80026

>gamergate

>relevant

wew lad


b24807 No.83445

>>80026

>>83444

2ch isn't relevant either. But to say 4chan isn't dead despite the SJW mods actively stomping out whatever was left of its community and culture is delusional. Plenty of boards are noticeably slower as well.


06268a No.83455

>>83445

I'd rather use 4chan for /v/ or /a/ or /pol/ than 8chan, because 4chan is less moderated than 8chan's versions of those boards.


43f8b8 No.83456

>>83455

the moral of 8chan is: unless you're willing to be self-aware and examine your own behavior, it is possible to become even worse than the monsters you are fighting against.


ac701d No.83499

ITT:

"8CHAN IS DEAAAAADDD"

This time for sure, right faggots?

It'll never make it to January 2015 16!! I meant 16, OF COURSE! It's real this time! 8chan on its way out for sure!

:^)

oy vey the anons know shut it down!


98cad8 No.83532

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>>83445

Look I don't browse 8chan often and didn't care enough to participate in the GGshit, but I'm a huge supporter of this site and shill a lot to drag new users and keep it alive.

>SJW mods

But this meme needs to fucking die. The mods are decidedly anti-SJW, unlike some of the board mods in this site which has been infiltrated by SRS cancer.

>>83456

Moral of feminism and liberalism as well.


b24807 No.83535

>>83532

>2012 and 2013

This was way before even /pol/ harbor. moot still sold out, and the mods are still worthless, obsessive, SJW trash.


98cad8 No.83537

>>83535

/pol/ is more racist and right wing than ever and no one is deleting any threads.


8c6837 No.83592

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>>83537

>implying 4/pol/ isn't just /int/-flavored /b/ with more big black benis/cuck/etc. slide threads

It's shit. The janitors who actually cared about the board stepped down prior to /pol/-harbour and the majority of janitors and moderators that are still around despise /pol/. Also

>/pol/ is not being deleted, give up whining now. You and your motley bad of ugly, hairy women will not affect our glorious bastion of free speech.

Pics related. First picture is from 4chan's IRC channel around when GG got kicked out, second picture is from the leaked janitor logs ( >>>/irc/ + 8/pol/ thread: https://archive.is/YcKh8). Halfchan's /pol/ is fugged.


53aa59 No.83620

>>83455

>>83456

Been observing this on some 8chan boards. Overactive mods who seem to need to meet their personal board management quota.

It's not a moderator's job to steer a community or act as a leader. Too much tampering is harmful to the organic growth of board cultures and population.


ee8976 No.83633

>>83535

t. Gamergay


53aa59 No.83638

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>>83535

Tbh it happens in most volunteer leadership cliques on community websites. Once you've seen the inside of enough you realize it's human nature working, and it's very rare for community sites to have internal checks and balances for this.

Constantly moderating the community sets off the "us vs them" group think, and combined with developing personal relationships with each other, volunteers start to reinforce their shared views amongst themselves and then enforce them onto the community with slack given.

Three additional problems are also present in virtually every community site leadership:

--> One is the volunteers (or mods, etc) who cause drama by banning or deleting when their ego is offended or targeting certain posters. These are usually the types you see collecting positions of power, moderating way too many sections of the website, and often holding position on multiple websites. They're usually toxic to the website, but very good at ingratiating themselves deep into any clique and high into the ranks. They only show their bad side to the community and those in leadership who are critical of them.

--> The second problem is basically most people's willingness to help their friends. It's what people do, and it corrupts by again reinforcing an us vs them group think as well as bypassing common policy.

--> The third are the busybodies who feel if they're doing nothing, they're not doing their job. These types are how moderation turns into interference. They are unintentionally the worst and most toxic type, and they're unfortunately very common on 8chan's boards simply because of the nature of the boards. Someone makes a board, it's their baby, and so they feel the need to micromanage. And it hasn't helped that 8chan has so many autists (I use that term lovingly in this case), who are prone to OCDing the crap out of their board ownership by coming up with nit-pick excuses to warn and ban users.

In theory, free board ownership solves everything right? But this only works perfectly in the theory of an unlimited userbase to tap for new boards along with all boards being equally advertised. What's stopping it from working itself out right now is: 1) Anons mainly only collect Anons for new boards, not social network contacts, because this isn't a typical social network. 2) People flock to what's popular and advertised, and on 8chan you're either on the top bar or the top of the board list, or you're probably going to stagnate.

The only solution is a massive campaign to drive traffic to 8chan, and not just poltard or Gamergate traffic but any imageboarder and even Plebbits, and a hard look at how placement affects board populations (like store shelves, placement is everything). These would self correct anything other than the top boards, which probably need stricter controls on mods because they are the core and flagship of 8chan, and users are unlikely to be able to compete with them by making a new board. Even if 8chan grew 5x the population, if /b/, /v/, /pol/ and whatever else went to shit, it would lead to way more users leaving than trying to compete with those core boards. Administrators should be watchful of volunteers on core boards and treat them as globals.

Tbh, the core boards should have been global and there from the start, answerable to administration and global policies. A lot of the whining is coming because the same "first come first serve" that was changed from the board claim system is also an inherent problem of not assigning the core boards to 8chan itself. First come first serve on core boards means it's luck of the dice if one of 8chan's core boards is successful or not, and that has implications for the entire website..


000000 No.83652

>maybe if I keep changing the front page, the site will get better


43f8b8 No.83659

>>83620

calling them "Board Owners" was a mistake. It has led many mods to genuinely believe they own the communities that post on their board.

They should be called ## Head Volunteers tbh


53aa59 No.83664

>>83659

Right now 8chan policy is like a terms of service you agree to when creating a board, which is "yours" in the sense that your Facebook page is yours, or a free forum you sign up to create is yours.

The discrepancy is that the policy treats this as if each board is a separate chan, while the culture of imageboards and indeed 8chan culture doesn't. This is like someone from one subreddit going to another subreddit and asking why the same rules don't apply. But on 8chan people don't accept this.

As I said before, this problem steps from 8chan being created without the core boards belonging to 8chan itself. It was a mistake. All of the main boards that are expected of an imageboard should be taken and reserved as global. That would solve almost all of the complaining, and not leave any user feeling like their options are either be micromanaged or go fuck themselves. It also makes all of the core boards directly responsible to 8chan leadership, so no confusion or convoluted process when it comes to mod behavior. One ruleset for the core boards, all owned by 8chan, and then users can spread out with their own niche boards.

This should be raised on /operate/. I think some assignments of core boards have been an attempt by HotWheels to correct this problem, but he should really just pull the bandaid off quickly and put all typically core boards under 8chan control. So long as no more boards were taken after that, the drama would dissipate -- just reassure people that if your board gets popular it won't be taken over by 8chan, and explain why the core boards have to be.


3c975d No.83666

>>83664

>8chan culture




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