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>>79955

>if you don't like freedom

You could run for president with this slogan.

0/10

>>79955

Complete free speech is an idiot's dream.

You used your free speech to endanger other people's free speech, and now your free speech endangered.

If I had it my way, I'd have you subversive retards banned and your board deleted.

If you don't like how we're handling this, take your shitty views to another site.

>>79968

>Complete free speech is an idiot's dream.

And Hotwheels was that idiot.

Let him watch his dreams die.

>>79973

>Let him watch his dreams die.

I like him and this site for more reasons than his flawed view of free speech. Perhaps he'll grow to gain a better understanding of rules.

>>79985

>if r/fatpeoplehate can't handle 8chan they don't need to post here, its that simple, them majority shouldn't change for a minority '

They can and should be allowed to be allowed to post here, for the sake of the site. /intl/ is a minority, and we'll be fucked if we make decisions based on your heh pill faggotry.

>still claiming anyone who doesn't agree with draconian moderation is from /intl/

>draconian

We'll allow free speech, as long as it doesn't interfere with the free speech of others. Interboard raids should not be allowed.

> any legitimate 8chan user knows everyone from any board will join a raid just for fun

It might be fun for a few autists for a short while, but its ruining other posters fun and barring us from making money.

>typical reddit mistake there is no "we"

Typical autist mistake/ There is most certainly a "we". The vast majority of this site hates you. No one wants you here but yourselves.

>and if you don't like freedom move back to reddit or 4chan where the moderation protects you from free thought and hurtful raids

I'm fine with free though, but interboard raids are cancer, and must be eliminated.

>>79985

>>WAAAAAAH ITS NOT FAAAAAIR WHY CAN'T I BRING MY REDDIT CULTURE TO 8CHAN WITHOUT RESISTANCE FROM THE CURRENT USERBASE!

You act as if reddit culture here is a bad thing. The more cultures here, the better. You can disallow cultures from posting on you're own boards, if you wish, like good rule cucks.

>>80002

*your

Cucks.

bumping top thread :^)

>>80001

>They can and should be allowed to be allowed to post here, for the sake of the site. /intl/ is a minority, and we'll be fucked if we make decisions based on your heh pill faggotry.

i never said they should be banned, merely suggesting that if they can't handle how the site is that they should go to a different one instead of whining for change

also

>still thinking i'm from /intl/

you really are new aren't you

>We'll allow free speech, as long as it doesn't interfere with the free speech of others. Interboard raids should not be allowed.

individual boards should be allowed to ban raiders on their boards but not others, 8chan doesn't need to become halfchan because reddit is upset

>Typical autist mistake/ There is most certainly a "we". The vast majority of this site hates you. No one wants you here but yourselves.

there has never been a we because everyone here is an individual who can only argue on the merits of their argument, not how many people supposedly agree with them, democracy over logic is a reddit ideal which is why its a bad idea to let you niggers post here un harassed, the fact that your precious /fatpeoplehate/ got destroyed and users are now begging for hotwheels to change the foundation of this site to accommodate you are proof of why it was a good idea not only to raid /fatpeoplehate/ but to continue vigilance against reddit culture, if it can't withstand the liberty of other posters leave it on an inferior site

>>80002

>You act as if reddit culture here is a bad thing.

if it isn't, why are you here instead of getting le ebin upboats?

>The more cultures here, the better.

are you from Sweden? not all cultures are equal, some are superior to others. Reddit is an inferior culture that spreads to other sites (like halfchan) and changes the site to accommodate their faggotry at the expense of the current population of users because they are unable to deal with any tiny bit of freedom that could hurt them. many boards i post on have been spammed or raided, not once have i ever considered that hotwheels take a moot approach to 8chan, the occasional raid is a fair price to pay for freedom, something a redditor like you could never fathom coming from a sheltered site run by a anally devastated gook

>>80001

I'm fine with inter-board raids. What I'm not fine with is a board that exists solely to raid other boards on 8chan in a way that is a nuisance to all the other users a majority of the time.

>>80012

good god stop being a fucking pussy and just raid that board into oblivion if it becomes a nuisance, its not like a raid can't be organized elsewhere, strong global moderation does nothing to help you

>>80010

>i never said they should be banned, merely suggesting that if they can't handle how the site is that they should go to a different one instead of whining for change

Spamming newcomer's boards into oblivion is just as good as keeping them out. It makes us look like shit. We don't want them on other sites. We need people. We need money.

>>still thinking i'm from /intl/

>YOU'RE DEFINATELY FROM REDDIT!!!!1111

I don't care where you're from. Don't spam other boards if you don't like them.

>individual boards should be allowed to ban raiders on their boards but not others, 8chan doesn't need to become halfchan because reddit is upset

>what are proxies

A good dozen or so global bans on you idealauges should work just as well at sending the message.

>democracy over logic is a reddit ideal which is why its a bad idea to let you niggers post here un harassed

There is no logic in your statements to begin with, but logic should not be the primary focus of an imageboard. Channing is a hobby, and one what should be enjoyable.

Most people here want fun, and as you can see, anti-democratic idea doesn't have much merit. The majority of people want you out, and are working to make it so.

>if it isn't, why are you here instead of getting le ebin upboats?

Cuz I never got into Reddit, and I don't like the idea of upvotes on the boards I frequent. Allowing Reddit boards on 8chan will not make 8chan into Reddit.

>if it isn't, why are you here instead of getting le ebin upboats?

As long as their moderation/anti anon policies remain on their own boards, it doesn't matter. Let them have their fun, you fucking simpleton.

>>80012

if it isn't, why are you here instead of getting le ebin upboats?

If it isn't /intl/ continuing this faggotry, it will be someone else. People who perpetuate this bullshit should be globally banned.

>>80015

>Spamming newcomer's boards into oblivion is just as good as keeping them out.

should we alter all the rules to appeal to the lowest common denominator, banning racism, gore and cuss words to draw tumblr here as well? you're clearly not from here otherwise you'd understand the problem with new users refusing to adjust to the site

>It makes us look like shit. We don't want them on other sites. We need people. We need money.

good, if you care more about how 8chan looks to the general public and want it to look like facebook then you should leave, I've said it once and I've said it again, 8chan is ONLY ALIVE AT ITS CURRENT STATUS BECAUSE OF ITS APPROACH TO HANDS OFF MODERATION AND FREE SPEECH, BECOMING LIKE HALFCHAN WILL GIVE USERS NO REASON TO CONTINUE COMING HERE AND YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IF YOU WEREN'T FROM REDDIT

>I don't care where you're from. Don't spam other boards if you don't like them.

I'll do what i want, if you can't handle it leave

>A good dozen or so global bans on you idealauges should work just as well at sending the message.

so everyone changes their IP's, returns to shitposting and spamming and everyone else has to deal with the new strict moderation? seriously, stop pretending to be of 8chan and not reddit, you're only proving me to be right every time you post

>There is no logic in your statements to begin with, but logic should not be the primary focus of an imageboard. Channing is a hobby, and one what should be enjoyable.

raiding and shitposting is part of "channing" you fucking dumb nigger, if you don't find it enjoyable halfchan is there for you to provide a sanitized experience you can brag about on r/4chan for the upboats

>Most people here want fun, and as you can see, anti-democratic idea doesn't have much merit. The majority of people want you out, and are working to make it so.

yes it does you fucking faggot, there is no majority because there is no feasible way to tell on an anonymous imageboard, merit is the only thing that matters, not claims of being in a majority, your ideas must hold weight, not how many people you believe agree with you

>Cuz I never got into Reddit, and I don't like the idea of upvotes on the boards I frequent. Allowing Reddit boards on 8chan will not make 8chan into Reddit.

Which is why this conversation isn't happening amirite? reddit shows up and now we have faggots like you begging for rules to accommodate them, reddit is a disease that will never hold up to an imageboard that isn't 4chan

>As long as their moderation/anti anon policies remain on their own boards, it doesn't matter. Let them have their fun, you fucking simpleton.

>literally making a "waaaaaah leave the redditors alone!" post

not only will i refuse to leave them alone, i will shitpost, spam and do everything i can to make them as uncomfortable as possible because of the attitude they generate from refusing to deal with those things the way they're supposed to by not being faggots, once you run to the mods you have no claim to being left alone as an anon

>>80025

>>80025

>should we alter all the rules to appeal to the lowest common denominator, banning racism, gore and cuss words to draw tumblr here as well? you're clearly not from here otherwise you'd understand the problem with new users refusing to adjust to the site

Slippery slope argument. Banning spam is a very different from banning "hate speech". They came here for free speech, and they'll get it. Derailing their speech is with different than stating unpopular things.

>good, if you care more about how 8chan looks to the general public and want it to look like facebook then you should leave

If you don't care, then you might as well leave, because we need the not-so general public of fatpeoplehate and likeminded reddit boards to fund us.

>8chan is ONLY ALIVE AT ITS CURRENT STATUS BECAUSE OF ITS APPROACH TO HANDS OFF MODERATION AND FREE SPEECH, BECOMING LIKE HALFCHAN WILL GIVE USERS NO REASON TO CONTINUE COMING HERE AND YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IF YOU WEREN'T FROM REDDIT

Free speech, not hands off moderation, and I don't even browse reddit.

Also, dat salt.

>I'll do what i want, if you can't handle it leave

And we'll do what we want, when we spam /intl/ into oblivion. Your secret club mentality is laughably retarded.

>so everyone changes their IP's, returns to shitposting and spamming and everyone else has to deal with the new strict moderation? seriously, stop pretending to be of 8chan and not reddit, you're only proving me to be right every time you post

The point wouldn't be to permanently ban them. That would be done to send the message that your idea of free speech isn't welcome on fullchan. People could evade bans before the 4chan exodus, but the fact that their posts weren't allowed was reason enough to leave.

>raiding and shitposting is part of "channing" you fucking dumb nigger,

Raid all the other sites you want. Do not raid other 8chan boards, especially not the ones with fresh populations to bolster our numbers. Without them, the chan experience is doomed, at least here.

>there is no majority because there is no feasible way to tell on an anonymous imageboard, merit is the only thing that matters, not claims of being in a majority, your ideas must hold weight, not how many people you believe agree with you

Kek

tell that to Hotwheels, /b/, /pol/, /v/, /int/, /gamergatehq. Fuck, dude. Tell it to /intl/ as they're sodomized en masse by raiders.

>Which is why this conversation isn't happening amirite? reddit shows up and now we have faggots like you begging for rules to accommodate them

I'm not begging anyone. I'm merely suggesting, and enjoying watching the traitors burn.

>reddit is a disease that will never hold up to an imageboard that isn't 4chan

Meanwhile, the fatpeoplehate board is number 3.

>not only will i refuse to leave them alone, i will shitpost, spam and do everything i can to make them as uncomfortable as possible

Enjoy your ban, and enjoy watching /intl/ get shitposted into oblivion.

>once you run to the mods you have no claim to being left alone as an anon

I think our admit begs to differ. :^)

>>80059

admin*

>>80059

>Slippery slope argument. Banning spam is a very different from banning "hate speech". They came here for free speech, and they'll get it. Derailing their speech is with different than stating unpopular things.

you dumb nigger the slippery slope was proven to not be a fallacy years ago, the slippery slope happened with faggots and it happened with halfchan, raiding is not derailing speech, they can keep posting too you dumb nigger

>If you don't care, then you might as well leave, because we need the not-so general public of fatpeoplehate and likeminded reddit boards to fund us

no we don't, more people will mean more traffic which means Freddit will have to upgrade the servers and beg for more money for the users, he needs to just set up a payment system so current anons can donate to him without this retarded idea of changing the foundation of the website to accommodate lesser beings

>implying reddit is likeminded

them and yourself are advocating for 4chan style moderation right now because you can't handle the website, fuck off or grow up

>Free speech, not hands off moderation, and I don't even browse reddit.

both need each other, once the global mods take power it WILL BE LIKE HALFCHAN YOU DUMB FUCKING NIGGER

>Also, dat salt.

WHY WOULDN'T I BE FUCKING ANGRY, IF YOU SAW A GROUP OF HOMOSEXUALS SPEWING SANATORIUM ON YOUR LAWN AND DEMANDED THE GOVERNMENT CREATE A SAFE SPACE ON YOUR PROPERTY FOR THEM TO SPEW THAT FAGGOTRY WOULDN'T YOU BE ANGRY? ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE MOTHER FUCKING NIGGER LOVING 4CHAN TO GO TO IF THEY WANT SUCH FAGGOTRY? ARE YOU TOO FUCKING STUPID TO GRASP WHAT I AM TELLING YOU? YOU GIVE THE GLOBAL MODS MORE POWER AND IT BECOMES 4CHAN, ITS A FACT, I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN ON THERE AND CAME OVER HERE FOR THE FREEDOM, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT REALLY JUST FUCKING LEAVE FOR A SITE WHERE THE MODS WILL PROTECT YOUR FEELINGS

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE THE REASON WHY /fatpeoplehate/ WAS RAIDED, THOSE PEOPLE DON'T BELONG HERE AND NEITHER DO YOU

>And we'll do what we want, when we spam /intl/ into oblivion

good, but stop being rulecucks and be big boys

>Your secret club mentality is laughably retarded.

halfchan would agree with you since they're all from reddit too

>The point wouldn't be to permanently ban them. That would be done to send the message that your idea of free speech isn't welcome on fullchan. People could evade bans before the 4chan exodus, but the fact that their posts weren't allowed was reason enough to leave.

now you're literally advocating for 8chan to be halfchan, you have no right to be taken seriously any longer you kike, 8chan would die if it went full hotpocket because it does not have enough users to sustain it if users had to leave because of niggers like you

>Raid all the other sites you want. Do not raid other 8chan boards, especially not the ones with fresh populations to bolster our numbers. Without them, the chan experience is doomed, at least here.

>using the most cancer ridden reddit friendly boards as an example of why we should do what you say

are you really this retarded?

>I'm not begging anyone. I'm merely suggesting, and enjoying watching the traitors burn.

>legitimate users are traitors because they don't want mod happy idiots to ruin the site

i assume you're one of the autists from /gamergatehq/ that thinks they're a "channer" when they're just a reddit transplant that rode the juvenile wave of tolerance that killed the movement to the point where gamergate is no longer part of chan culture

>Meanwhile, the fatpeoplehate board is number 3.

/sjw/ was in the top boards because it got spammed, look where it is now nigger

>Enjoy your ban, and enjoy watching /intl/ get shitposted into oblivion

i won't be banned and i don't care if /intl/ dies you autistic newfag, if anything you'll be on reddit or voat in a few days licking your wounds and downvoting posts that trigger you

>I think our admit begs to differ. :^)

hotwheels is fucking weak, i've already explained the moment he goes hotpockets 8chan will die, his payments will dry up, 2ch will cut him off and he'll be making malware for Philippine scammers for pennies

>>80013

It is being raided into oblivion.

>>80076

then what is the problem? why do i keep hearing that rulecucks, redditors and Freddit Breddit The Lover of Reddit want increased global moderation?

>>80079

>Actually it wasn't.

and that's you're argument?

>Sure buddy, and I'll just build Rome in a day.

setting up a payment system or finding one that won't kike him out of his shekels is a more sustainable than bringing in undesirables by force

>It's also not hiveminded. There are very diverse populations and viewpoints on Reddit. Some of them are very much in line with most of 8chan.

which is why we need to change for them amirite?

>Advocating one rule that is on 4chan isn't advocating 4chan style moderation.

increased global moderation power is 4chan style moderation you dumb spook

>Eeehh, bullshit. They are not mutually dependent. I'll also add that hands off moderation would still likely be enforced. Global mods frequently deal with pedo boards, but I don't here you complaining about that.

Raiding a board isn't something the feds care about, CP is, don't equate illegal to legal activities

>Fatpeoplehate isn't the lawn in this situation, it's your neighbor. 8chan is the neighborhood, and I could give a fuck what my neighbors do, as long as they don't force it on me.

not everyone belongs in the neighborhood, would you want obama to put section 8 tenants in your neighborhood so they can ruin it? of course you would

>They came here because their freedom of speech was being disrupted by SJW mods. 4chan has many SJWs, SJW mods, and mods that disrupt freedom of speech.

I'd imagine they'd also want their own board, one that runs more like reddit, and is specifically directed against fatties, which I resume their subreddit(?) was dedicated to.

and what freedom of speech is being disrupted here? the raid would have been over in a day if they didn't throw a bitchfit to the mods about it and just dealt with it in a proper fashion

>Slippery slope, and completely unsubstantiated. Hotwheels, and the majority of the global mods are not progressives, and unlike 4chan mods, value free speech.

moot used to value free speech too, and once again the slippery slope is not a fallacy anymore

>Right back 'atcha, bucko. 7chan would be perfect for you and your elitist ilk. Better yet, grab 8chan's sourcecode and make a site that is truly supportive of your idea of free speech. The free market will decide which of us stays number two.

7chan is made up of SJW elitists, there is nothing wrong about being a free speech elitist that looks down on undesirable subhumans and gives them shit so they'll grow strong and become a proper user

>Actually, your raid of /fatpeoplehate/ is the reason why I'm responding to you

i only started raiding /fatpeoplehate/ because i heard about Freddit's meltdown and the rulecucks begging for global moderation, you made the situation worse for yourselves by going to the mods

>Nah, I think we'll do both.

lol, big boys don't need a cripplekike to save them from raids

>i'm advocating for 8chan to be 8chan, with a few changes in policy towards self destructive interboard raids.

so you're basically advocating for 4chan but with more boards, glad you admitted it

>Let's clarify though, it wouldn't be going full hotpocket.

increased global moderation would be going full hotpocket, should you be banned on all boards for baneposting on /sp/ or stealing a GET on /a/?

>Niggers like you are the minority. The vast majority would be able to sustain, and would hopefully be bolstered by people from other sites.

most of us came here to get away from 4chan style moderation, those advocating are a recent influx of new posters who are the minority and cannot make a decent argument in favor of it, having no legitimacy democratically or logically

>Whether they're Cancer ridden, according to you, is not relevant to the point. They, especially collectively are far more numerous than you and your heh troupe.

once again, this isn't reddit democracy does not matter, the foundation of the site does.

>Nah, son. I've been channing for years, and only casual browse gamergate boards/news.

sure m8 whatever you say, I'm sure you can back that up

>implying it is

those faggots get triggered when you say it, they'd rather try and distance themselves from it for "PR" than actually do anything of importance

>Keep telling yourself that, see where it gets you. Also "newfag" is cancer here. We're all faggots on fullchan

in 2014, now its 2015 and lower users from other sites need to adapt or fuck off to halfchan where they'll get what they want

>kek, oh you explained wonderfully

nice rebuttal m8

>In case the raid doesn't work/to prevent future happenings.

the occasional raid is a small price to pay for freedom and many users enjoy them, if you don't like it moot has a nice place you can stay

>>79959

Oh no, who would have the audacity to troll on a chan!?

>>80088

>and that's you're argument?

It's obvious enough that your statement is bollocks.

>setting up a payment system or finding one that won't kike him out of his shekels is a more sustainable than bringing in undesirables by force

I don't think you understand. You don't just set up a payment system, especially not one that's meant to be secure and anonymous. That takes time, a lot of know how, and a lot of money.

>which is why we need to change for them amirite?

If you consider not sagebombing them 'change' then sure.

>increased global moderation power is 4chan style moderation you dumb spook

In your demented little mind, perhaps. Unfortunately for you, it's a little more nuanced than that.

>Raiding a board isn't something the feds care about, CP is, don't equate illegal to legal activities

Both activities ruin the site for us.

>would you want obama to put section 8 tenants in your neighborhood so they can ruin it? of course you would

>implying they would ruin it

>implying tolerating = 'putting'

>and what freedom of speech is being disrupted here? the raid would have been over in a day if they didn't throw a bitchfit to the mods about it and just dealt with it in a proper fashion

If you can't have a conversation in a thread to to autists spamming it, your freedom of speech is being disrupted. They were right to complain.

>moot used to value free speech too, and once again the slippery slope is not a fallacy anymore

Moot was always a progressive, and valued anonymity, not freedom of speech.

>7chan is made up of SJW elitists,

Alright. Make your own chan then.

>you made the situation worse for yourselves by going to the mods

I've only made it worse for you and your ilk. Enjoy your bans.

>big boys don't need a cripplekike to save them from raids

Big boys don't raid.

>so you're basically advocating for 4chan but with more boards, glad you admitted it

Sure

>increased global moderation would be going full hotpocket, should you be banned on all boards for baneposting on /sp/ or stealing a GET on /a/?

Any increase in global moderation=Hotpockets for you. You're a moron.

>most of us came here to get away from 4chan style moderation, those advocating are a recent influx of new posters who are the minority and cannot make a decent argument in favor of it, having no legitimacy democratically or logically

Most of us aren't stupid enough to believe that any increase in global moderation means 4chan style moderation.

>once again, this isn't reddit democracy does not matter, the foundation of the site does.

The foundation of this site is going to change. Get wreckt.

>those faggots get triggered when you say it, they'd rather try and distance themselves from it for "PR" than actually do anything of importance

Assuming that's true for a portion of GGers, it is still very much a part of chan culture, and we're currently making headway on a set of rules to ensure ethics in game journalism.

>in 2014, now its 2015 and lower users from other sites need to adapt or fuck off to halfchan where they'll get what they want

Or you can adapt instead of being a little bitch, just a thought. You're going to bend with the wind, or break like a fucking twig.

>nice rebuttal m8

I didn't need to humor your lukewarm "argument" with a rebuttal.

>the occasional raid is a small price to pay for freedom and many users enjoy them, if you don't like it moot has a nice place you can stay

The occasional raid will no longer be a thing here, hopefully, and if you don't like it, Michael Henderson has a nice example for you to follow.

>>80106

>It's obvious enough that your statement is bollocks.

lol so you can't find an argument

>I don't think you understand. You don't just set up a payment system, especially not one that's meant to be secure and anonymous. That takes time, a lot of know how, and a lot of money.

then Freddit can live with ad revenue and Bitcoins, ruining the site would be counter productive if he wants more cash

>If you consider not sagebombing them 'change' then sure.

i consider increased global moderation change

>Both activities ruin the site for us.

CP does, raiding is a tradition that new users need to deal with

>implying it isn't

reddit can handle the banter, Freddit bans it and reddit can thrive and oppress indigenous anons

>If you can't have a conversation in a thread to to autists spamming it, your freedom of speech is being disrupted. They were right to complain.

how hard is it to have a mod sticky a few threads and ignore/delete posts until everyone gets bored? god forbid you have to be an adult

>Moot was always a progressive, and valued anonymity, not freedom of speech.

he wanted anonymity to protect it, then did away with both because he wanted the reddit gold

>Alright. Make your own chan then.

its already here, me and other like minded individuals made up this chan and brought it to where it is, you don't belong which is why you want us to change it for you

>I've only made it worse for you and your ilk. Enjoy your bans.

what bans? no one would be dumb enough to ban me globally for doing what has always been done here

>Big boys don't raid.

yes they do

>Any increase in global moderation=Hotpockets for you. You're a moron.

you're the moron wanting to create 4chan 2.0

>The foundation of this site is going to change. Get wreckt.

are you retarded? increased global moderation will change it for the worse, eat my ass nigger

>Assuming that's true for a portion of GGers, it is still very much a part of chan culture, and we're currently making headway on a set of rules to ensure ethics in game journalism.

good on the ethics, but take your reddit loving multiculturalism back to 4chan or r/KiA

>Or you can adapt instead of being a little bitch, just a thought. You're going to bend with the wind, or break like a fucking twig.

why should i restrict myself for lesser beings? should i drink paint so niggers can be equal to me?

>I didn't need to humor your lukewarm "argument" with a rebuttal.

then don't expect to have your ideas given consideration

>The occasional raid will no longer be a thing here, hopefully, and if you don't like it, Michael Henderson has a nice example for you to follow.

lel Freddit would have to have the resources reddit or 4chan has to stop raiding, 8chan isn't needed to conduct raids on it, raiding will always happen, Freddit will lose money and 8chan will die unless Freddit ceases the hotpocketing, you'd know this if you were a legitimate user :^)

>>80111

>lol so you can't find an argument

Your statement does not merit an argument. You should thank your lucky stars that your other one's do.

>then Freddit can live with ad revenue and Bitcoins, ruining the site would be counter productive if he wants more cash

The site can't live without them, and Redditors wouldn't ruin the site.

>i consider increased global moderation change

According to that criteria, yes, we would need to change for them.

>CP does, raiding is a tradition that new users need to deal with

Fuck traditions. That tradition ruins the site.

>reddit can handle the banter

Spamming =/= banter

>how hard is it to have a mod sticky a few threads and ignore/delete posts until everyone gets bored?

Pretty fucking hard. Some of us have 9-5 jobs, you know.

>he wanted anonymity to protect it

He wanted anonymity to protect his subjective little idea of free speech. He was a progressive from the start, and most boards began to disgust him in the first few years.

>its already here, me and other like minded individuals made up this chan and brought it to where it is, you don't belong which is why you want us to change it for you

Really? I don't remember you becoming admin. Things are going to change, and you can bitch and moan, or you can take matters into your own hands and start a new chan.

>no one would be dumb enough to ban me globally for doing what has always been done here

As I said, things are going to change.

>you're the moron wanting to create 4chan 2.0

You're the moron who thinks increased global moderation=4chan 2.0.

>increased global moderation will change it for the worse, eat my ass nigger

Saltier than a fresh margarita. ;)

>take your reddit loving multiculturalism back to 4chan or r/KiA

Take your spam loving faggotry back to Nigeria.

>why should i restrict myself for lesser beings? should i drink paint so niggers can be equal to me?

Because if you don't, you're just going to get more butthurt. You talk about adaptation, but you can't adapt worth shit.

>then don't expect to have your ideas given consideration

Oh, my friend, but they are.

>8chan isn't needed to conduct raids on it, raiding will always happen

And they would be dealt with accordingly, just like interboard raids.

>Freddit will lose money and 8chan will die unless Freddit ceases the hotpocketing

Freddit will gain money by hotpocketing, and so will 8chan.

>you'd know this if you were a legitimate user :^)

You don't put sugar on your porridge, you'd know this if you were a true Scotsman :^)

>>80203

>Your statement does not merit an argument. You should thank your lucky stars that your other one's do.

do you have an argument to back that statement up?

>The site can't live without them, and Redditors wouldn't ruin the site.

lmao did you actually just fucking say that? you no longer have any merit in this discussion, you are actively trying to ruin this site and i hope niggers rape you, your family, your remains and everyone who ever spoke a kind word to you

>According to that criteria, yes, we would need to change for them.

no we don't, you need to grow a fucking spine

>Fuck traditions. That tradition ruins the site.

they keep the site from becoming worthless you nigger

>Spamming =/= banter

it is here

>Pretty fucking hard. Some of us have 9-5 jobs, you know.

>being a normie

there's your problem, stay on reddit you fucking degenerate

>He wanted anonymity to protect his subjective little idea of free speech. He was a progressive from the start, and most boards began to disgust him in the first few years.

sounds like Freddit now, had an ideal but became a kike

>Really? I don't remember you becoming admin. Things are going to change, and you can bitch and moan, or you can take matters into your own hands and start a new chan.

this isn't 4chan m8, Freddit does something anons don't like, even a fourth of them it would cause him to go down in the hole when he's struggling for funds, Freddit needs to know his place

>As I said, things are going to change.

yeah, after this people won't be as tolerant of you niggers as before, congratulations

>You're the moron who thinks increased global moderation=4chan 2.0.

you're the moron who doesn't understand it does

>Saltier than a fresh margarita. ;)

funny, I'm not begging for more rules to protect me :^)

>Take your spam loving faggotry back to Nigeria.

nope, spam is an 8chan tradition

>Because if you don't, you're just going to get more butthurt. You talk about adaptation, but you can't adapt worth shit.

old users don't have to adapt, newer faggier ones do, which is why they always beg for rules

>Oh, my friend, but they are.

by a powerless moderator dependent on shitposters? ayy lmao

>And they would be dealt with accordingly, just like interboard raids.

how? bans can be evaded

>Freddit will gain money by hotpocketing, and so will 8chan.

if he hotpockets everyone will leave to masterchan or go to 4chan, freddit will die

>You don't put sugar on your porridge, you'd know this if you were a true Scotsman :^)

true scotsman isn't a fallacy either, in fact the idea of fallacies is hypocritical and disingenuous

>>80212

i do, which is why i don't want it to be ruined by rulecucks who want to betray this chan to create a safe space

>>80232

Anarchy is no different in quality than rulecucketry. Having a few rules won't kill the site. And every board is free to make its own rules. By forcing boards to remove rules however, you're actually forbidding free speech, not allowing it.

>>80234

I'm okay with boards having rules, I'm not okay with global moderation increasing to 4chan levels, things are fine as they are

>>80231

>you no longer have any merit in this discussion, you are actively trying to ruin this site and i hope niggers rape you, your family, your remains and everyone who ever spoke a kind word to you

So much unwarrented salt. You faggots need to chill the fuck out.

>no we don't, you need to grow a fucking spine

I'm consciously and willfully making the decision to help these people.

>they keep the site from becoming worthless you nigger

>it is here

Limiting yourself to tradition is only going to stagnate this site and making it boring.

>there's your problem, stay on reddit you fucking degenerate

>being a neet little bitch

You have no idea about money, or how to run this site. Your idea of sustaining the site is nonsensical.

>sounds like Freddit now, had an ideal but became a kike

Moot never had that ideal. That's what I'm saying.

>this isn't 4chan m8, Freddit does something anons don't like, even a fourth of them it would cause him to go down in the hole when he's struggling for funds, Freddit needs to know his place

>implying you faggots are 1/4

>implying reddit wouldn't make us larger than ever

>yeah, after this people won't be as tolerant of you niggers as before, congratulations

Right back atcha. Your time is up, my time is now. You can't see me, bitch.

>funny, I'm not begging for more rules to protect me :^)

>begging

I'm making a suggestion to the mods, therefore I'm salty. That's fine, as long as you admit you're salty as well.

>you're the moron who doesn't understand it does

I've made the point to you multiple times. I suppose there are none so blind as those who choose not to see.

>nope, spam is an 8chan tradition

Spsm is for Nigeria, you little black monkey.

>old users don't have to adapt

They do if their site changes.

>by a powerless moderator dependent on shitposters? ayy lmao

He could shut your shit down with a few clicks.

>how? bans can be evaded

Hence "bans" instead of "ban". I'm sure the majority of you will get the message and fuck off soon enough, just like halfchan.

>if he hotpockets everyone will leave to masterchan or go to 4chan, freddit will die

We'll see soon enough.

>true scotsman isn't a fallacy either, in fact the idea of fallacies is hypocritical and disingenuous

Your twelve year old idea of logical reasoning is probably what got you so buttflustered in the first place. Please an hero.

>>80235

bullshit

>>80241

>So much unwarrented salt. You faggots need to chill the fuck out.

>begging for rules

>"c-chill out!"

eat a dick rulecuck

>I'm consciously and willfully making the decision to help these people.

why? because you got banned from halfchan but want to go back and need to create it here so you won't be lonely?

>Limiting yourself to tradition is only going to stagnate this site and making it boring.

the tradition of freedom and having a pair of balls promotes growth, rules create stagnation EX: 4chan.org

>You have no idea about money, or how to run this site. Your idea of sustaining the site is nonsensical.

by leaving the site as is where users don't want to leave and are willing to give money to keep it up? did your 5-9 at McDonaldtiens give you downs syndrome?

>implying the majority isn't anti reddit

>implying quantity is better than quality

>Right back atcha. Your time is up, my time is now. You can't see me, bitch.

i cringed reading this

>I'm making a suggestion to the mods, therefore I'm salty. That's fine, as long as you admit you're salty as well.

you're begging, your reddit friends are begging, your salty from /fatpeoplehate/ being raided and want everyone to make way for your weakness, seriously kill yourself if you can't handle a raid

>I've made the point to you multiple times. I suppose there are none so blind as those who choose not to see.

no you haven't, you still live in a fantasy world where reddit is good for the chan

>Spsm is for Nigeria, you little black monkey.

/pol/ actually spammed a Nigerian imageboard once you dumb nigger

>They do if their site changes.

then they leave and the site dies, 8chan can't drive away old users for a few redditors who'll leave for voat once it gets fixed

>He could shut your shit down with a few clicks.

>rulecucks actually believe this

>Hence "bans" instead of "ban". I'm sure the majority of you will get the message and fuck off soon enough, just like halfchan.

>he thinks shitposting and spamming stopped on halfchan

lel

>We'll see soon enough.

i hope not, i want 8chan to stay as it is and not perish

>Your twelve year old idea of logical reasoning is probably what got you so buttflustered in the first place. Please an hero.

If you have to resort to cheap tactics because you can't argue your points correctly you have no right to speak about the quality of this imageboard and be taken seriously, just fuck off to reddit with your people and never come back

>>80242

too many dank memes for ya m8?

>>80269

I'm done with you, no one wants reddit here, 8chan is pointless with reddit ruining the place, I'm going to enjoy the last days before this place becomes r/channing and post anime, burn in hell you reddit enabling communist, and don't fucking come to the next chan, you stay with your mess

>>80002

look up eternal september

/thread

really though you faggots want to be here right? because the alternatives to 8ch or semi dead off shoots, or going back to halfchan

if a couple thousand redditors come here let them, let them stay in their shithole boards, beat them over the head if they leave and bring their faggotry to other boards

it's like "lurk moar" is lost on people

if you faggots have REALLY been around chans for as long as you claimed to have been around you'd know a good coordinated sage bombing and telling the newfag to fuck off tends to either drive them off or to adapt to the current board

>>80322

>/thread

Rephrasing the last guy's argument into a quippy little meme does not hold any weight over what I've already said. Reddit influx, or eternal september, or whatever you want to call it.

>complains about not having money to run the site

>spends all his money unnecessarily moving to the Philippines, buying a big house and drugs to fuel his addiction + tons of hookers

>>80001

>for the sake of the site

This is the same reasoning Ellen Pao banned Fatpeoplehate (reddit needs revenue) and Moot banned Gamergate for.

8chan is just 4chan 2.0 and Cripplekike was an idiot for ever claiming he could do things differently. This site is doomed.

>>80358

>spends all his money unnecessarily moving to the Philippines, buying a big house and drugs to fuel his addiction + tons of hookers

>citation needed

>This is the same reasoning Ellen Pao banned Fatpeoplehate (reddit needs revenue) and Moot banned Gamergate for.

Not at all, faggot. They banned those for going so far against their ideological ties and pissing off their SJW cronies. SJWs were moronic enough to think that Moot was responsible for what people did on his site.

>>80402

Only newfags hate redditors though.

>>80582

ledditor pls. your cancer and should go back to your shit hole unless you adapt.

>>80587

>ledditor

Hahaaa, these chan culture terms are so lulzy. You most be an 'oldfag' right? Nice to meet you *faggot*!

welp, I guess text formatting only works on reddit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>80592

>the only rule is the global rule + whatever individual board owners decide to tack on.

I think that's going to change very soon, and good on Hotwheels for making it so.

>>80631

>because I remember a very recent raid on 4/pol/ that lasted almost a month...

Ever since the purge, I don't think they care much about /pol/

>you know the other person has no argument when they resort to picking apart grammar :^)

Errr.... I wasn't picking apart grammar. I was saying that volunteers aren't hired. That's actually relevant, when it comes to the money situation.

>No, you really couldn't because the rules were clearly defined and set from the very beginning of the site's existence. As long as it is legal in the country where the servers are hosted, it is allowed.

That doesn't address my point. By the same logic of your earlier point, when he set up those rules, he set the precedent for further consolidations of power.

>I know how people like you work, and I don't believe for even a second that it's going to stop at banning inter-board raids.

What a ridiculous assumption. Please continue to make unsubstantiated claims regarding my morals, thoughts, and future actions.

>So I suggest you cap my post, so next time around you remember the damage you did.

I don't need to, I know you're going to screencap your own post like the attention whore you are.

>>80644

>As long as both the rules and the reasoning behind them is well-defined on a philosophical level, the precedent for consolidation of power is not set.

Would disallowing interboard raids not be well-defined on a philosophical level?

>1) minimalism

I agree with you on that. I like the minimalistic style of rules, the idea that we can say, "We only have one rule here," but that isn't working.

>2) consistency: the rules have never been changed since the site's inception, which (believe it or not) reduces drama and discourages people from attempting to change the rules to suit their agenda

That is your best argument for precedent, but, as you can see, there is still a lot of pressure to change the rules, and once more, that system is not working.

>3) clarity: CP has an actual legal definition, there is little to no room for globals to bend the rules.

Valid point. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. In the mean time, we need new users.

>As the rules currently work, this site is immune to infiltration because people can always just make their own board.

I highly doubt that will go away any time soon.

>I wonder why someone like you would come along and try to change that?

Ironically, to save the site which you claim I'm destroying.

First of all, if you want anarchy, then make a board for it. But you have no right to raid other boards that actually want rules and quality control.

Go away fucking anime-shitposting niggers.

>>80645

>Would disallowing interboard raids not be well-defined on a philosophical level?

Let me explain why banning inter-board raids on a global level is a bad idea:

There are no user accounts on 8chan. Individual users cannot be tied to a specific board. So how do you know when something is a raid and when it is just a bunch of people who actually frequent the board, who are shitposting? If, for example, you frequent /leftypol/, and you make a post there supporting right-wing thought, does it constitute a 'raid', if a couple other people also happen to make similar posts at the same time without your knowledge? Is this a scenario where the global moderators should step in? How do the mods know whether you lurk /pol/ or not? If you start fucking with the rules now, these kind of grey-area situations will start popping up all the time, the globals will start making mistakes, and then people will get pissed and leave 8chan.

It's okay if a local mod fucks up because nobody is forcing you to use their board: you can just make a new one. But if the globals are fucking up, there is nowhere to run but off-site. And that's assuming that they're benevolent to begin with. A "no cross-board raiding" rule could easily be used to justify removing certain segments of a board's userbase that a global doesn't like (e.g. maybe the global hates Brendanposters on /tv/ and starts to interpret their existence as a raid by >>>/just/ on >>>/tv/ ). Don't think it couldn't happen: cuckchan's mods have done similar things in the past, and it's not as though power-hungry mods don't exist on 8chan.

You are inviting global moderation to get involved in the affairs of individual boards, and when it comes down to it each each global mod probably has a different style of moderating these kinds of things. You can see similar problems on every major board with a large moderator team, where how often/how long you get banned depends on which moderator sees your post. This problem will only be compounded by the fact that you'd probably need to double or triple the number of global moderators to enforce such a rule.

But why even do it? It's not as though global mods are magically more qualified to stop raids than local mods are. They can't stop spam any more quickly than a local mod can, and local mods have the advantage of understanding their board better/knowing what is/isn't accepted by the community.

It sounds as though you're just trying to force every board to conform to your personal ideals, when there is absolutely no reason to do so.

>>80660

/intl/ hates anime.

>>80663

your officially BTFO the rulecuck. congrats, my friend

>>80663

This /intl/ may have been faggots , but that's no reason to try and add more rules.

We could have avoided most if not all of this drama if shit like >>>/operate/24707 was implemented sooner.

There is a simple reason why you faggots from /intl/ need to go.

Your board exists solely to destroy 8chan. You are the antithesis of freedom of speech as your actions are devoted towards the destruction of the website through the use of invasions and consuming bandwidth through your proxyspam.

If a new rule is needed to curb your faggotry before it literally destroys the entire place - and I don't mean destroy as in "anon culture being invaded" crap, I mean literally imploding the servers - then this restriction is a fair compromise that everyone but you morons will agree with. The alternative is to have no 8chan.

>>80958

But how is that even enforceable.

>>80974

Just when i thought the 2 sides to this argument couldn't get dumber.

>>79955

just accept it not every board and community wants to be /s4s/ 2.0.

stop trying to push your militant shitposting on everyone. thats why /intl/ got raided

>>80974

>'ll wait for your fat ass at a convention and put a bullet in your head for committing a felony.

Jim I forgot, how old are you? Mid-thirties, right?

>>81073

>2014

>>81073

lol u tk him 2da bar|?

>>81106

Well i can't see the full effect of the hotpocketry since there is no comprehensive list of bans or public board logs so i can compare the deleted posts/threads to those in the archives.

Unless i started a recent 4chan bans thread on /b/ ,which would make the place even more cancerous since most of us did come from 4chan , in wouldn't be able to see bans that they wouldn't mods don't put on their paltry list.

>>81127

>filename

we know moot still owns the fucking place.

>>81109

>Well i can't see the full effect of the hotpocketry since there is no comprehensive list of bans

https://www.4chan.org/bans

Try harder.

>>81129

But he's no longer the admin. And you wouldn't really know either way by doing a who.is look-up since "Perfect Privacy, LLC" is what people use instead of their name to provide an identity for things like this.

https://who.is/whois/4chan.org

>>81196

>sample of recent bans (not a comprehensive list of all bans)

>not a comprehensive list of all bans

That means that not all of it nigger.

Maybe you should should learn how to fucking read.

>>81197

>But he's no longer the admin

I already know that , its been nearly 5 months at this point.

But do you honestly think that he would relinquish ownership of something that makes money off of scores /b/tards who don't know what adblock is?

Especially considering that last time I checked the NDA for mods is still a thing.

>>81203

A comprehensive list of bans would be retarded since 4chan has orders of magnitude more traffic than 8chan.

>>81208

That still doesn't change shit , a ban list is a tiny fraction of the total bandwidth on either site , especially since its basically a list with an bunch of links or just a few lines of text in our case.

It doesn't matter if 4chan is 10 times bigger or 10 million times bigger than 8chan , the actual server(s) for the meat of the site would still take up the vast majority of the bandwidth by proportion.

Even if it did take a while to load you could still break it up into pages that you could click or search through , or you could just display every ban within a given time window if you feared it using up too much of the servers.

Unless your arguing that so many bans happen there that displaying all them , even within a given time frame , would be comparable in size to the few petabytes that place goes through in an enitre month.

>>80002

0df71f:

Reading through your posts, it's clear you don't belong here.

You seem like you'd be smart enough to realize that centralization of power invariably leads to more corruption, but you're not.

It's also obvious you haven't been on chans enough to see how opening the floodgates for newfags has always ruined them in the past.

Just leave.

>>81208

That still doesn't change shit , a ban list is a tiny fraction of the total bandwidth on either site , especially since its basically a list with an bunch of links or just a few lines of text in our case.

It doesn't matter if 4chan is 10 times bigger or 10 million times bigger than 8chan , the actual server(s) for the meat of the site would still take up the vast majority of the bandwidth by proportion.

Even if it did take a while to load you could still break it up into pages that you could click or search through , or you could just display every ban within a given time window if you feared it using up too much of the servers.

Unless your arguing that so many bans happen there that displaying all them , even within a given time frame , would be comparable in size to the few petabytes that place goes through in an entire month.

>>82316

>floodgates for newfags has always ruined them in the past

This , although to be honest i'd rather have some 8chan than no 8chan

>and hotwheels will be left alone in the Philippines with no income

>8chan is owned by the same company that owns 2chan (no "partnership", just same owner)

>2ch.net

>scroll down

>Race Queen, Incは、2ch.netというドメインの所有者

>translation: race queen inc is the owner of 2ch.net

>http://racequeen.ph/

>.ph

>http://racequeen.ph/about/

>Founded in 2005, Race Queen Inc. is an American and Filipino owned product and software development outsourcing company

>implying the genetic dud didn't move to the philippines because that's where his job is

>implying he's not getting autismbux on top of monetary compensation from his job

>seriously believing he has no reliable sources of income

Don't forget to donate!

>>82347

2ch and Futaba (2chan) are not the same thing.

>>79955

Hey newfag OP, you realize 8ch doesn't have global rules outside of following US law and that you can make your own boards, right?

>>82355

You're nitpicking my post just because I said "2chan". I'm aware Futaba is the imageboard and 2ch is the text board hotwheels has a "partnership" with.

Futaba's admin runs his chan smoothly and has remained anonymous to this day. I wonder if one thing is related to the other.

>>82363

wew, faggot

>>82364

shut your filthy trap

>>82363

>>82367

wew, nigger

>>82363

edgy