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 No.5698

Would everyone here generally agree that punks tend to come from upper-class families and environments while metalheads come from a poorer background? All I have is anecdotal evidence on this subject but this seems to be true to me.

ITT: Discuss why metal is better than punk.

 No.5704

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>punks tend to come from upper-class families and environments while metalheads come from a poorer background?

>Then how come many of the first punk/oi bands came from working-class people, disgruntled with their surroundings?

Generalization, background doesn't necessarily reflect quality of music or style, but personal approach.to it.

>metal better than punk

What is 'better'? Why would it be better?

Punk has influenced metal and extreme metal to a grade it shouldn't ever be overlooked.

Most likely metal wouldn't have the shape it has nowadays if it wasn't for punk, and d-beat.


 No.5705

>>5704

*punk, hardcore punk & d-beat


 No.5756

I came from a middle-class background and always looked down on punks as being dirty and unsophisticated.

Based on every crossover show I've been to, the punks were the ones who punched the lead singer in the face, hung off of the ceiling, and got thrown out for being too drunk. Fucking scum.


 No.5757

>>5704

>What is 'better'? Why would it be better?

Just playing into the "edgy faggot" meme (and the fact that this is /metal/, not /punk/), I actually enjoy punk too. I just feel that the majority are there more for the agenda than the music.

>>5756

I came from a lower-class background, and nearly everyone I knew/know from that time (if they were listening to an "alternative" music genre) was into metal. All the "punks" I met were from the upper-middle/upper class and played the rebellious kid who still took daddy's allowance.


 No.5763

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>Discuss why metal is better than punk.

I like both, and Punk helped me get into extreme music, so I can't knock it too hard.

That said, Punks go lengths to overcompensate for some of their relatively privileged backgrounds. I knew a RASH/SHARP "skinhead" (initially a generic Hardcore Punk) whose parents were both doctors. His parents were incredibly stingy and strict, but he found his ways to rebel against mommy and daddy, and he made sure to take a few cues from them politically. The family was progressive as hell, and at virtually every opportunity, he'd extol the virtues of socialism even though, should his vision of a people's revolution happen, there'd be no place for pampered ilk like him. He eventually went to Oxford and graduated. The fucker wouldn't know "working class" if the ghost of Samuel Gompers shit on his face.

A Crust Punk I knew grew up with two lesbian parents, with his biological father eventually becoming a tranny. The family was horribly broken in every facet of life (allegations of abuse were rampant), so he warmed up readily to the nomadic lifestyle of a Crust Punk squatter. At one point, he confided in me his plans to break into his folks's home and steal all the valuables to pawn off. I stayed silent and never heard of what happened later, so it's entirely possible he was merely blustering. Fast forward four years later, and he died at a party of an overdose. He became heavily addicted to virtually every type of intoxicant, so news of this didn't remotely surprise me. I showed up at his funeral with a mix of the kids we knew in school and the Crust Punks he knew along the way as well as his bandmates; whole affair was incredibly depressing, really.

Song related: one of my favorite skinhead Oi! anthems. Wish Metal and skinhead subculture would overlap some more.




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