/metatech/ - /tech/ Meta Discussion

>>1021

Don't listen to him.

Meta threads always attract demands for overmoderation that damages boards.

>>1022

How are IDs advocating over moderation? It works very well for /v/ and /pol/ and works, for the most part, and stopping samefags, shills, and bait threads

Right now there are about 4 threads about smartphones on the front page.

Aren't those supposed to be inside the consumer advice thread?

They don't even talk about the OS running in them, just the phone and how they are adopting the same design as Apple's

>>1025

They're discussing technology, not asking anyone to recommend and spooonfeed them.

>no one should discuss anything but muh loonix

Kill yourself.

I don't think there's a way to fundamentally solve the "bait thread" problem without getting rid of all of the morons who guarantee them replies, but I really wish duplicate systemd threads would be handled at least.

They get fucking told in one thread and then make another thread within an hour or so being a moron, filling the catalog up with "MUH SYSTEMD111 MUH LOONIX MUH PID1!!!"

I think we've got a pretty good setup going right now, and just don't have enough posters for a lot of niches.

>>1026

Tell me how >>>/tech/415215 is technology.

The thread is filled with people either complaining about it being a shit thread, or nothing related to tech (no software, no hardware, just about the deisgn)

Tell me how >>>/tech/430638 is about technology.

I'd understand if it was talking about a speech of Stallman or even Bill Gates, instead it's about a 17 year old that did something.

>>>/tech/431053 is a grey area, because, even if it's a phone, it's clear that OP wanted to talk about the new specs, which means the new hardware and software, the security risks, etc, unlike other phone threads I've seen

Now there seems to be some faggot making deliberately shit threads in response to the meta thread.

Fuck I hate this board.

Shitposters are ruining the board.

IDs

>>1034

fuck me, let's try this again

IDs are a great idea. I've always wondered why /tech/ never implemented them. It just kinda seems like a no-brainer. Even this board has them.

The number of systemd threads needs to be severely limited, this is getting out of hand.

Please introduce a new mod, someone who actually gives a shit about the quality. SJWs aren't tech, systemd needs no more than one thread, go talk about your fucking mobile phones on /g/, and WINDOWS TEN NEEDS TO BE BANNED

Holy shit, we've tried free discussion of any topic and basically, /tech/ failed. Introduce some fucking content rules.

IDs won't do anything but making people leave the board.

Most shitposters/baiters have their own VPNs and they can change ID any moment. It's no different than the ban problem a mod explained in a previous monthly thread.

You can ban them, but they will just change IP address and they cycle of shitposting begins again.

What we need is content control similar to how /b/ handles pony threads or webm threads.

Threads that often cause massive shitposting or multiple baits, are contained in a single thread, and anything related to them outside, is deleted.

The problem is that it's too easy to derail a seemingly normal thread into a discussion of those controlled topics.

How many times has a Arch discussion turned into a systemd shitfest? How many times a discussion about alternative web browsers ended up talking about Firefox vs Chrome? How many times did people start talking about Windows when discussing any tool?

A solution would be to either read (or just skim through) each thread on the front page to see if they are still on-topic, but that would require an army of trusted volunteers to be online 24/7, and it's just impossible, or, when a thread is derailed, it's locked regardless of what is happening in the thread, but that would only make people go away.

It's a lose-lose situation. Whatever the mods choose to do, it'll never solve anything, but just idling will only make things worse.

I always thought IDs were a step towards privacy, just like opting out of 8archive. I like it that way. If there's someone shitposting in a thread it's not hard to tell it's the same person making the posts.

You need to be ruthless on spoonfeeding threads that belong in the sticky. I see them halfway down the catalog. You also need to be ruthless with duplicate threads and obvious shitposting threads. Notice how there's like 10 systemd threads at any time? It's because you don't contain them so the shitposters make more shit threads because they know it's a hot button issue for /tech/. Same with Windows 10 and its surveillance. And you, the posters, also need to be ruthless in reporting them.

>>1040

What kind of threads are you scared of getting removed?

People usually complain about undermoderation, not overmoderation.

>>1040

>people joined to avoid censorship.

/tech/ exists because people were tired of /g/, I don't think people really care about "censorship" much here in the sense of threads being removed because whining about censorship is usually just the outlet of a faggot shitposter whose hobby is racking up replies to threads because he has nothing else in life, instead of actually discussing technology.

We're not here to spoonfeed you, and the rules are there to try and incite technology discussion.

If your thread isn't "wuts wrong with muh computer guys" or "hey what should I buy XDDD I've done ZERO research" then you're fine.

The problem the board is experiencing right now is is that we have 1) a bunch of shitposters who keep making the same tired greentext threads, probably because they're banned on /g/ and 2) literal manchildren that can't handle a hardware discussion thread, probably because they don't know anything about hardware and just want to scream "SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILL"

>muh censorship

You're censoring people by bumping their threads off the index through your insistence that you are a special snowflake, if you make a tech support or consumer recommendation thread outside of the sticky. There's a place for that shit, you do realize.

You're not going to be "censored" if you want to discuss technology. You will be "censored" and redirected to the sticky containment if you want spoonfed. Which isn't really being censored at all. There is a difference.

>>1038

Almost everything you said is complete bullshit

Again, I urge you to consider /v/ and /pol/, the two most popular boards, also have IDs, and have minimal shitposting, the number of shitposters with VPNs are very low

Id's would be nice, as would deleting redundant threads. The wave of newfags coming and starting privacy threads without using the catalog or lurking is getting out of hand.

>>1042

>keeps putting censorship in quotes

>majority of post is defending removing peoples posts

huh...

>>1042

also strawmanning and bonus points for including XDDD which was not said in the original post

>>1024

Set up a wordfilter for /int/, /ints/, /intl/, /ints/ etc. and change it to "irrelevant faggots"

I'm not a fan of IDs, but I'm willing to compromise if names are disabled completely so that people can't give their shitposting an identity.

>>1038

Have to agree with this.

>>1045

What? Nothing is being removed, you stupid fucking cocksucker. What is happening is that your thread belongs in containment. That means you fucking belong in a special place where only people who want to deal with your shit will go to act as your personal help desk, for free.

>>1046

It's called an example. You obviously have zero reading comprehension, and maybe you should just not post on /tech/ if you don't want to lurk, you fucking faggot. How about that?

>>1051

>>1045

In fact, you could look at it this way. Your post is such high quality and you are such an important contributor to the board that we've made an entire thread dedicated to threads like this! Isn't that neat! Your own special place on the top of the board where you are free to post your intelligent and thought provoking "technology discussion" because it's really too good for the rest of the board.

You should be thanking the mods tbqh ;^)

I'm ambivalent towards IDs but at least show the UID count in threads. Why is that not on?

>>1053

You can't turn it on without turning IDs on. It would leak information about the identity of posters, too.

>>1054

O-oh.

Can you start banning /pol/ shitposters?

>>1056

Do you mean banning people for having politically incorrect opinions, or for posting a joke about mein Kampf?

The board quality is steadily declining.

Remove rice threads

Remove support/help threads

Remove consumerist threads

Remove non-tech threads

Remove Kaballah threads

Remove retard threads

Remove shill threads

Remove silk threads

Remove mod threads

Remove Cultural Marxism

Ban unnecessary names or trips, like The Chrome Jew

Ban Kabbalists

Ban Microsoft

Ban banhammers

Ban the CIA

Ban Dick Van Dyke

Ban me

Ban Satanists

Ban (ban)kers

Ban moslems

>>1058

There's a few good nuggets and a few good posters still left, but it's mainly just more and more browser threads, multiple Linux distro recommendation threads, etc.

Oh well.

https://8ch.net/tech/res/440794.html

Can you confirm if this guy does or doesn't samefag and bump his own thread (and then ban him anyway)