3c5f03 No.2231
>ID numbers still exist
Please just remove /v/ numbers already
This is not true anonymous
4dbd56 No.2232
No.
c89abf No.2233
What's that, can't samefag anymore?
TOO BAD
bc4a1e No.2236
>>2233The fun thing is that i CAN samefag and now newfags will fall for it even more.
Its simple as ban evading back on 4chan. 0a3956 No.2242
>>2236>Change your IP address>Act smug and surprised when something based on the IP address changes too???????
c12431 No.2259
>>2242Do you have ADHD? Read the post im replying to.
d67cde No.2278
no please don't. Having IDs and being able to spot blatant samefags-trolls is what keeps post quality up
15de19 No.2348
IDs are nice, it helps follow a discussion. Especially if you're having a debate with someone so other people cant pretend to be you or them and shitpost. also since they're only thread specific you don't have to worry about any comments you make outside of that thread and then the thread gets deleted eventually anyway
f1990b No.2349
How about
NO
What's the matter OP can't samefag and sockpuppet anymore and shit-up threads without being called out on your faggotry?
If that's your poison then i have good news for you , there is a place that allows this kind of faggotry and the only price you have to pay is some freedom in regards to subjects discussed and maybe solving a few captchas
>-----------------> cuckchan
c143e7 No.2388
>>2349>Switch my IP>Everyone falls for my samefaggotry because i have a different ID:^)
bcd44f No.2392
>>2388>Switch IPs>sockpuppet after sockpuppet agrees with OP >mysteriously not OP nor any sockpuppet is seen more than once in the threadYeah, no one can figure that out
c143e7 No.2408
>>2391I don't think you understand what im saying
Im calling you the samefag.
When you switch everyone falls for it because nobody distrusts the ID. When the ID is gone,
what are you going to do?>>2392:^) 41cc1b No.2411
>>2236>>2388Fags like this are the reason why IDs should stay.
I doubt IDs would have gone away otherwise, but still.
9c01f1 No.2443
>>2411>People that know how to evade IDs are the reason IDs should stay 98db17 No.2510
go back to /vi/, retard.
6e6d6c No.2653
leave em, they can help contribute to legitimate discussion
noone on /v/ actually cares about samefags either way
b12ee8 No.2667
No, IDs should be on any boards that are meant to have even semi serious discussion. They were meant to stop shilling, but they should stay because they cut out at least a good 80% of samefaggotry.
83c4e9 No.2705
>>2231Agreed. The only thing thread IDs are good for is spotting obvious newfaggots. Truly dedicated shills get past it easily with proxies, while shitposters try to ad hominem you to death with "samefag!" when you just happen to express two separate thoughts in two separate posts. I used to think thread IDs were a great idea, but the reality has set in for me now, being on the receiving end, that it ultimately leads to people prejudging your arguments all the same, which is something anonymity is supposed to prevent in the first place.
56a9e9 No.2709
Keep IDs. It makes it easier for anons to organize to play together, such as the XIV / Tera threads where people made guilds. IDs let anons communicate and know who is who without being tripfags for these threads.
94499c No.2714
>>2709>Without being tripfagsAre you telling me the sudden vendetta agaisn't tripfags is still there when you use a trip for one thread only, but its not the same when you use IDs?
1aa8ae No.2721
Keap IDs, it prevents samefagging.
f346b6 No.2752
>>2721It's not perfect, but a lot of people have no idea how many bonafide forum sliders have been blown out by the IDs.
They're too good to go without.
6bb18c No.2755
>>2721>It prevents samefaggingYeah, all those proxies and VPNs in the world make it REAL HARD to samefag on an ID based board.
The IDs are cancer, and go against the core values of this site, which is anonymity.
f346b6 No.2771
>>2755You clearly feel strongly about this, so please explain the benefit of not having IDs.
6bb18c No.2773
>>2771Anonymity, it's as simple as shit. We already have people spouting samefag and shill, so IDs do nothing. Not only that, but you've got people purposefully samefagging to create a rise out of the userbase.
IDs do nothing for the board, and need to be eradicated.
f346b6 No.2774
>>2773How long have you been here? Many people can recount at least one instance of a samefag being foiled by post IDs.
Oh wait, that would fuck up your argument for not having IDs, so we need another excuse. Right, uh, they're doing it on purpose; totally makes sense.
94499c No.2782
>>2774>Many people can recount at least one instance of a samefag being foiled by post IDs.Like?
>Gamergate false-f-We can drop Board IDs when gamergate ends then,
its not that fucking hard.
Even if we did drop those right now you'd still be able to notice samefags.
6bb18c No.2787
>>2774Oh, you're gonna pull the newfag card?
On second thought, why don't YOU give ME some valid reasons as to why IDs are worth a shit, other than MUH SHILLING.
83c4e9 No.2803
>>2774>How long have you been here?Not that poster, but I've been here since the original exodus myself. And I have seen both a few instances of obvious undercover marketers samefagging with a proxy, as well as false positives where thread shitters try to kill an argument by calling samefag when it's completely unwarranted.
401424 No.2804
I actually like post IDs as it prevents folks from samefagging the shit out of their own threads. That was a really big problem on halfchan /v/.
94499c No.2816
>>2804We've been over this again and again.
People that fall for the "samefag" argument is a constant reminder that we're not appreciating anonymity. Why is a argument with 2 people behind it worth more than a argument with 1 person behind it?
8390b6 No.2860
>>2816>Muh idiocy>I can't understand basic shitBecause without thread IDs that one person finds it much easier to just post the same argument over and over again pretending to be different people and drown shit out, instead of actually getting told to fuck off if they get BTFO.
YOU don't understand anonymity. It wasn't to allow people to pretend to be different people and agree with themselves or manufacture their own circlejerk / consensus within a single thread. It was to prevent people from forming persistent identities, where faggots would jerk off over their high post count or forum reputation instead of the quality of their posts.
Thread IDs do nothing to hinder anonymity.
e37789 No.2877
>>2860>Thread IDs do nothing to hinder anonymity.This is only true because Hola unblocker is stupidly easy to use. I don't want to make it impossible to samefag, just slightly more annoying.
ccf846 No.3007
>>2860>NO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MAJOR POINTS OF ANONYMITYNot to mention you're wrong too
Go to the gamergate thread and post anything shilly.
Make sure its your first post with that ID.
Rpeort back when they go >ID:?????(1) LOL
9eca0e No.3010
>>2877>just slightly more annoyingCheck those timestamps bb
8d7a6e No.3011
67cc1d No.3012
0f6682 No.3013
8890fa No.3014
04c7bf No.3015
04c7bf No.3016
>>3013>06:00:11>>3014>06:00:31>>3015>06:00:11Wait a minute
I think i broke it too hard
d29af4 No.4854
>>2860>YOU don't understand anonymity. It wasn't to allow people to pretend to be different people and agree with themselves or manufacture their own circlejerk / consensus within a single thread. It was to prevent people from forming persistent identities, where faggots would jerk off over their high post count or forum reputation instead of the quality of their posts.No one is saying this. IDfags always accuse of people wanting to samefag for nefarious reasons but we just want to be anonymous.
b4010d No.4868
>>4854>IDfags always accuse of people wanting to samefag>Thread full of buttmad samefag samefagging b3c6af No.4869
>>4868>Person demonstrates that IDs are useless>WOW HE'S SAMEFAGGING IGNORE HIMNot to mention:
>>2231>>2236>>2259>>2319>>2388We're made in different days, so he probably had his IP changed, something you can only avoid if you have a static IP.
But of course, you're latching into that because otherwise you'd have to admit IDs are useless.
390db1 No.4871
>>4868I'm not sure if you're accusing me but I'm not, that was my first post in the thread, I'm from the thread down below of the /a/non whining
6bb18c No.4872
I agree completely. IDs serve NO purpose other than to keep track of users, and as such should ONLY be used for support boards like meta boards.
If you advocate the use of IDs on an every day board like /v/, then you are not for true privacy and anonymity. It's as plain and simple as that.
773649 No.4874
Anyone who advocates for the removal of IDs hasn't been to /vg/
390db1 No.4876
>>4874Vg was sort of my first board on 4shit and I don't think IDs would help it. Tripfag and meta shit was already so bad in your respective fandom that ID makes it worse.
3df381 No.4879
>anonymous website
>anonymous boards
>anonymous threads
>"I don't want my identity to persist from post to post in the same thread"
You should judge a post by the contents of that post; nothing else should sway you but the arguments presented. But that post is part of a chain of posts that make up a conversation, and that conversation deserves some coherence. I can't imagine what sort of shit your raising if you take issue with people judging you by things you had literally just said.
600024 No.4882
>>4879On the other hand, you have people who will samefag until they're banned just to shitpost.
Smart people will judge a post by it's contents. Retards will abuse the freedom of complete anonymity.
If someone is disregarding you because of your ID you're either shitposting or they're not worth your time because they're retarded.
04cd2a No.4883
Reminder for the Pro-ID troops!
cc90bf No.4890
>>4883It takes me two clicks to hide an ID and for the remainder of a thread converse in peace with fellow intelligent beings.
It makes kids and newfags from cuckchan buttmad, which is its own reward, and presents a significant obstacle for them to overcome. Thus cleanly and efficiently cutting off the worst part of cancer from the place I dwell in. Surgically, I'd even say.
And if - or, rather, when - the amount of shitposting retards reaches a critical mass the easy IP-changing solutions like hola or whatever it is called can be temporarily banned.
The cherry on the cake? If a certain anon has been making an absolute ass of himself in a thread I can make a conscious decision to not waste my time replying to him. Not flinging shit back and thus shitting up the thread even more, no-no-no. Ignoring him. Perhaps he will even calm down and find someone else in the thread to discuss something.
390db1 No.4897
>>4890Facebook integration would make halfchan people mad too.
Personally I hide IDs on desktop and think everyone else should do so too. Although I can't hide them on exodus, but fortunately I can't filter or search them so it is kind of pointless and just there. Making IDs more "useful" would be bad since I consider them a malicious feature.
cc90bf No.4898
>>4897>Facebook integration would make halfchan people mad too.Try harder.
>Personally I hide IDs on desktopGood on you.
>think everyone else should do so too.Don't tell me what to do.
I don't even fucking notice them until some terminal autist starts sperging out.
But please, continue crying.
390db1 No.4899
>>4898IDs are a malicious feature and devalue my privacy. Comparing it to Facebook is not "try harder", I have a right to be anonymous to my peers on an anonymous website. Malicious features should not be added for the sake of alienating 4chan.
cc90bf No.4900
>>4899>IDs are a malicious feature and devalue my privacy. Comparing it to Facebook is not "try harder", I have a right to be anonymous to my peers on an anonymous website.>privacy>right to be anonymousMake up your mind already, woman.
Either way nor I neither anyone else, except maybe HW, can learn anything about you from a temporary ID with a thread-long lifespan. The only part of your anonymity which being violated is you have put a tiny bit more effort to samefag within the same thread.
So in essence the only thing IDs are interfering with is you shitting up relevant discussions of other anons. Gotcha.
Also sage is not a downvote. Even for teenage girls from neo-plebbit.
390db1 No.4902
>>4900I don't see where I used sage as a downvote, I just sage often by instinct. I agree with the OP so it would make little sense to sage as a protest of something. Anyway, anonymity culture is important to me. IDs devalue this by making the argument about an identity instead of a post's value. You can see this since pro IDs make everyone obsessed about shills and samefags. If my post is valid then it makes no difference what I posted elsewhere in the thread. Someone who wants to copy/paste an ID and derail a thread against someone should not be able to do so.
3df381 No.4903
>>4902Shouldn't things you'd previously posted in a thread coincide with any future posts? I'm just trying to wrap my head around getting rid of ID's.
Let's say you make a post in a thread about footwear that says, "I like wearing socks with sandals." A controversial position to be sure, but it's your opinion, you've expressed it, and have submitted it to conversation. Under the ID system, is it at this point that you worry that people will start to discredit you because of this opinion? Something to the effect of, "This poster previously said that he likes wearing socks with sandals, so anything else he might say is dumb or likely trolling." Whereas without the ID system, you could profess your love for socks with sandals, but then also discuss other footwear you enjoy, because your interest in footwear isn't limited to this one type, without any prejudice.
If this is the case, or something similar to this case, then I feel you're working to prevent users from making illogical fallacies, and that's too hopeful by far. If this isn't the case, I insist you write up some scenario involving socks and sandals.
cc90bf No.4908
>>4902>I don't see where I used sage as a downvoteBecause you wasn't saging with your first three posts. Once you started to get blown the fuck out in the argument you started saging. You even admit it in your very last post:
>I just sage often by instinct.Well, that or you have mental issues. It's not like there are more perfectly healthy individuals than unicorns, but instinctively saging a thread for no apparent reason seems pretty retarded. Unless, of course, you are actually using sage as a downvote. Which is the kind of misuse the feature frequently sees from newfags, especially those coming from leddit-like hugboxes.
>IDs devalue this by making the argument about an identity instead of a post's value.As you may have noticed if you read my posts, in each of those I have addressed only the points brought by the post I was quoting. Either there was no baggage or I chose to ignore it as irrelevant - which it is in vast majority of cases.
The only exception is the downvote thing which was initially just a side remark from me.
>You can see this since pro IDs make everyone obsessed about shills and samefags.[citation needed]
>Someone who wants to copy/paste an IDWait what? Do you not even know how they work?
>derail a thread against someone should not be able to do so.Do you have proof of a poster derailing a thread
against someone with the use of IDs?
f0d36a No.4909
>>2231>Please just remove /v/ numbers alreadyNo, its existence is used to curb shitposting, since shit posters can be easily identified and ignored.
>muh ip changeSure, you want to change your ID multiple times a thread? Go ahead.
81e40b No.4974
I agree that IDs are cancer
It's usually quite obvious who is shilling just by their post, and even then it's just a post on a fucking anonymous imageboard
IDs are a step closer to reddit
da936d No.4980
>>4890>when - the amount of shitposting retards reaches a critical mass the easy IP-changing solutions like hola or whatever it is called can be temporarily banned.There's no list of proxies or IPs that can be blocked. HW doesn't have one as far as i know, and making a list of those is going to be a fucking mess.
>>4908>>You can see this since pro IDs make everyone obsessed about shills and samefags.>[citation needed]You browse and live on this very same website, why the fuck do you need citations?
>As for your other argumentsI can't actually prove that IDs devalue an argument when, sadly, our very culture already encourages Ad Hominem.
cc90bf No.4981
>>4980>There's no list of proxies or IPs that can be blocked. HW doesn't have one as far as i know, and making a list of those is going to be a fucking mess.It's not impossible.
>You browse and live on this very same website, why the fuck do you need citations?I'm not obsessed with shills and samefags. So, you were saying?
>I can't actually prove that IDs devalue an argument when, sadly, our very culture already encourages Ad Hominem.And yet there is absolutely nothing preventing me or anyone else from refraining from using those. Moreover, their impact is diminished if they are not used sparingly, only when they are truly required.
Is that pic of yours supposed to be relevant to one of my questions? Because I saw that post of his and agree with him in this case. That's exactly what they are good for and nothing else.
da936d No.4984
>>4981>It's not impossible.Yet as i said, unless Hotwheels adds a option to filter proxy IPs, its going to be a mess.
The only other way to filter proxies it to
A: Make a bot with mod access that then makes a list of proxies, and then scours for posts made with a Proxy IPs.
OR B: Have HW himself make a list of Proxy/autoblocked IPs and have mark turn it on.He already has ZenMate since someone spammed /fem/ with those, but i doubt someone pro-free speech would add a proxy blocklist to his website.
>Is that pic of yours supposed to be relevant to one of my questionsNot really
>That's exactly what they are good for and nothing else.And I fucking knew there was something wrong when i read "I'm not obsessed with shills and samefags."
You're supporting IDs just because they make samefagging "slightly more annonying"? cc90bf No.4985
>>4984>hola thingI guess such a list will be made by someone eventually, probably by some forum admin or someone like that. Shitposting isn't limited to fullchan, after all. I doubt it will be ever used for anything but to thin out spam though for the same reasons you've posted.
>And I fucking knew there was something wrong when i read "I'm not obsessed with shills and samefags."Sounds like someone else is obsessed with something about this matter.
>You're supporting IDs just because they make samefagging "slightly more annonying"?Not just that but this kind of behavior in general - the one contributing literally nothing to discussion and even actively disrupting it. I do not separate either samefagging or shilling into some separate category of useless shitposting, I don't put it on a pedestal, I don't give it any more attention than I have to if I run into it. That, to me, does not sound like obsessing with something.
390db1 No.4998
>>4985It's not your right to filter someone because you think they're a shitposter. You shouldn't have that ability. Filter by words, content, images, but not identity.
cc90bf No.4999
>>4998>It's not your right to filter someone because you think they're a shitposter. You shouldn't have that ability. Filter by words, content, images, but not identity.>>4900>So in essence the only thing IDs are interfering with is you shitting up relevant discussions of other anons. Gotcha.I'm starting to notice a pattern.
390db1 No.5000
>>4999Why should you be allowed to have an echo chamber?
cc90bf No.5001
>>5000In what way it is an echo chamber, pray tell?
d2ac79 No.5004
>>2705>having shitty argumentsi found your problem faggot
bcdec8 No.5032
>>3007>deliberately act like a shill>surprised people pick up on it>this totally proves my point!What was your point exactly?
9ee493 No.5085
Removing IDs is a terrible idea.
bdfb99 No.5086
I was really upset back when i first migrated and found I had to deal with ID's
But ever since then I fucking love them.
They are not a tool against samefagging, they are a tool to let me establish my own identity in a debate.
I absolutely hate it when I'm on a board without ID's and someone makes an argument for the same side of a debate as me, but does so in bad character or with flawed arguments.
With ID's people know who's who in the debate, and no one stuffs words into my mouth.
I used to be afraid of IDs, but I fucking love them SO HARD now.
Please give me IDs
cc90bf No.5089
>>5086No, IDs are literally worse than a 9000 Hitlers, they ruin anonymity and privacy in the whole Universe forever!
Oops, forgot to change my ID as well.
bdfb99 No.5091
>>5089I think the main problem people have with ID's is that when they make an impulsive post and regret it, they have to avoid the whole thread.
And thread's last a long time.
I used to make this mistake a lot, but I managed to adapt myself. I've learned that I need to not react so defensively to arguments, and that an apparent accusatory, offensive, or insulting tone may be something I misread. And even if it was really trying to be insulting, acting like it wasn't and not making an inflammatory post in response helps.
I've got a process now where I type the whole post up, and spend a lot of time trimming out defensive insults, accusations, and rambling.
Feels bad that I will never make such perfect statements in a real conversation.
cc90bf No.5092
>>5091>I think the main problem people have with ID's is that when they make an impulsive post and regret it, they have to avoid the whole thread.>And thread's last a long time.Well I bet it's because they are autistic spergteens. Mature autistic manchildren can and, in my experience, do admit their mistakes and even apologize sometimes. Nothing wrong with it. I only notice IDs and all the baggage they bring if a poster is creating chaos and destruction because of butthurt, not because he is baiting or having a little fun.
>an apparent accusatory, offensive, or insulting tone may be something I misreadOr he might be legit baiting you but baiting a fellow /v/irgin, ergo expecting you to call him a nigger and you both laughting it off.
>I've got a process now where I type the whole post up, and spend a lot of timeYep, that's how constructive posting works. Nothing wrong with some shitposting but if we do mostly that we're ending up with a perfect environment for halfchan retards to flood it and try to do damage. Not that they usually have enough of a brain to carry it out, but still.
Balance in all things is what I say we need.
390db1 No.5117
>>5085None of these defend IDs. You can tell when someone's shilling without having to prove they're a samefag.
34655d No.5119
Man you people are retarded. IDs can give the OP and identity without the need of tripfagging like a faggot, so he doesn't have to prove each time that he is indeed the OP. And if anyone changes his IP to try and be a different person, if you were having a serious discussion with actual arguments you would know when someone is changing IPs. How? The people that posted first will NOT respond back since it will be impossible for them as they have changed IDs.
Plus it's perfectly fine to judge a post not just by itself. I don't know where this shitty idea that you can't judge multiple posts came from. When you are debating anyone you need to know what he said previously as it's still his own opinion and it's part of a larger discussion. A post itself can be more right or wrong depending on the other posts supporting it.
When some guy who hates video games says he likes The Order, you could reply two things to him. If you didn't knew that he hates videogames you would probably say "Why do you waste time with a game like that when there are way better and cheaper games available?". If he had IDs you could already know he hates videogames if he posted that in the thread, so there's no need to ask that bullshit again. This is just a small example, but there are plenty of times where you need multiple posts to judge an opinion, it's just a part of an opinion in most cases.
And not only that but IDs are in the thread only, and will always be different in other threads, this is not for creating eceleb shilling because no one gives a fuck about how popular your ID is in a thread. With a whole board, tripfagging is different as it does create drama.
All these people against IDs are people who samefagged before in order to agree with themselves and nothing more, there is no reason not to have IDs and you people are fucking idiots.
390db1 No.5121
>>5119IDs ARE a tripfag. It is forcing someone to adopt an identity against their will to no one's benefit. Being able to drag unrelated posts in the thread to damage someone's "reputation" is not quality conversation, it is identity fagging which is a bad mindset. It should not matter what else the poster said early unrelated. And if someone's post bothered you then you should not have the ability to filter them. That is not their fault being a shitposter, it means you are a whiny bitch who can't handle other opinions.
You cannot just accuse pro-anonymity posters of wanting to be a samefag, that is uncalled for and false. There is no justification for IDs and that is why they can only rely on ad hominems arguments for them, "Shitposter! Samefag! Shill!". Your identity is supposed to be irrelevant since this is an anonymous imageboard.
7c82b3 No.5123
>>5121>IDs ARE a tripfag. Fuck off, opinion discarded.
98db17 No.5124
>>5121FUCKING THIS HOLY SHIT!
It's not rocket surgery.
bc7ed7 No.5140
>>5121>IDs are a tripfagnigga pls.
IDs don't have memorable identity to form a discernible lasting opinion about someone.
and IDs are only valid for ONE thread so if you feel like you fucked up while having a pissing contest on the internet then just start a new thread pretending to be some other faggot.
If you're THAT touchy about your credibility being jeopardized because of your mishaps then you shouldn't even fucking post on the internet to begin with.
If anything it's you who's being a whiny bitch because you're too scared about the idea of not able to back your ass out when you fuck up.
98db17 No.5141
>>5140>it's about muh credibility>it has nothing to do with post quality and discussion>good goyim, keep IDs, yes, good good goyim. 390db1 No.5143
>>5140This thread has been up since January. IDs totally have the potential to establish a reputation about someone and lead to personality disputes.
63c09e No.5147
>>5143Oh really, and what sort of reputation? We all discuss the point of IDs in this thread, all the posts made by one person no matter how old here are his opinions on IDs, not only just one post, all of them. All of those posts from that ID should be opinions on this subject and it doesn't mean that they should be dismissed because it's not just one post.
The guy who has old posts ITT is still anonymous, you know jack shit about him, you can just respond to his criticism about IDs. If one person makes a mistake in a previous post he can just correct himself, because no one is holding his balls and tries to stop him from changing his mind.
I am sorry but all these anti-IDs arguments are idiotic. When you debate someone anonymously you don't say that his previous sentences should be dismissed, the whole conversation, not just one post, is part of this anonymous debate. I don't know who you are, or who the OP is and what does he do or what else he posted besides this thread we all all talking about, he is anonymous.
98db17 No.5150
>>5147It's not like we already have ample proof from /v/ alone that most people use IDs as a way to ignore someone because they disagree with them rather than because they're shitposters or anything. OH WAIT, THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT 90% OF /v/ THREADS DEVOLVE INTO THESE DAYS!
3df381 No.5152
>>5143>IDs totally have the potential to establish a reputation about someone and lead to personality disputesIn individual threads.
If the same ID was applied to you from thread to thread, or worse, board to board, then I'd agree, we'd likely see the rise of certain personalities gaining support and everyone agreeing with them no matter what they said, or vice versa.
But,
1) I don't see anyone being able to gather so much support in a single thread that it threatens anonymity on the entire board
2) Threads are so ephemeral to begin with. If anyone were to gain a following, they'd lose it as soon as the thread ended.
390db1 No.5153
>>5152Thanks to archives, there is the ability to connect someone across multiple threads with filenames or something similar. Before this would only connect 2 posts, here it potentially allows you to mine more data and make more connections.
5d6e8d No.5184
>>2391>switching IPsI just use my PC, my Laptop, my Smartphone using WLAN, my Smartphone using mobile net.
=> 4 IDs on the fly
224e67 No.5188
>>5184
That's only two different external IPs, mate, unless your PC, laptop and smartphone using WLAN are all on different connections.
They aren't.
b12ee8 No.5192
>>2388
Still makes samefagging less accessable, so thread IDs should stay. /v/ would become an absolute shithole if there were no thread IDs.
358c3c No.5196
>>2231
WE NEED IDs BECAUSE IT KEEPS THE CASUAL USER FROM SAMEFAGGING
STOP SUPPORTING SAMEFAGS, OP
aaab51 No.5271
>lose an argument
>now i can't continue to have a discussion in that thread without being made fun of
this is not ok
454cce No.5273
>>2231
Once upon a time, there was a board called /b/. One day, an autist began to spam threads with literal shitposts. The autist always targeted the threads that were most active. "This thread is cancer," the Autist would say.
Then, the Autist would make new threads. "Look at all these cancer threads," the Autist would say. Then the Autist would reply to his own post, "Indeed, this board is dying."
At first people tried to ignore the Autist. But more Autists joined in, doing the same things he had. Then the people began to complain about the Autists being allowed to pervert the ideas 8chan stood for soley to ruin everyone elses fun. The moderators stood firm in their naive Idealism, however.
"It is not our place to stop people from being spergs," they said, and nodded thier heads in unison.
So the people left. The left because they could not converse in peace, they had no desire to be dragged down to the autists level, and the mods refused to do anything.
Only then did the mods attempt to stop what was already in motion. They enabled post ID's so that even the newest newfag could tell if someone was samefagging. Furthermore, when the autist wanted to spam a thread the users could use the post ID to filter his crap out in large blocks rather than post by post. It made it much easier to deal with the spam, and keep track of who was talking to who in individual threads, while leaving people to be anon across the board.
The autists grew angry. They stamped their feet and gnashed their teeth. They wailed and shrieked that people were not forced to pay attention to them anymore. "This is not true anon!" the cried. Over and over they cried, and insulted the mods who would dare to limit their ability to ruin everyone fun.
Unfortunately, something terrible happened. Some users sided with the Autists. They were retards, allowing themselves to be used like the dirty niggers they were, to push the Autists goals. So the mods relented, and allowed the Autists to ruin /b/.
Now the Autists run around all of 8chan, bitching about any rules that might limit their ability to ruin the fun. Be it post ID's, captchas, or getting b& for being an asshole every time they post, they always have a reason that might be mistaken for legit, if you didn't know the story of the Autists. Even now, they are out there, sperging it up. Many have grown wise to their ways, so now they use a magic spell to hide themselves. "Muh Boogymen," they chant, whenever they are called out for what they are. Learn to recognize the patterns they follow. Do not allow them to trick you. Resist their vile magiks. Only then can the fun resume.