/mgck/ - Magick

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> Liber Null and Psychonaut by Peter Carroll

> Oven-Ready Chaos by Phil Hine

> Liber Kaos by Peter Carroll

> The Book of Results by Ray Sherwin

After you've read those, don't read another chaos magic book. Instead, DO chaos magic and record what works and what doesn't.

the hardest thing is, I think, to actually get yourself together and start doing stuff.

On the topic of books:

idk 'bout others, but I find it rather pleasing when all the info i have comes together neatly (wanna be a fucking astrophysicist in the future), so I'd recommend reading stuff like Gleick's "Chaos: making a new science" and Freud's introduction to psychoanalysis. The latter is long, but it kind of helps you understand things.

I found this helpful, though it depends really on the worldview one has before learning about magick. I prefer reasonable explanations and systematized knowledge as grounds for belief.

>Advanced Magick for Beginners by Alan Chapman

This books is a great introduction to chaos magick.

The second fear is that if you were to take control of the helm and steer yourself across dimensions into a radically different world, one that dramatically differs from the one that you would have organically arrived at, you might be going there alone.

The "observers" you share this world with might not follow you. You might be leaving to enter a world where you are the only person with a soul.

All things are possible.

Now, you could theoretically try to steer the course of this world that is seemingly careening through the dimensions guided by an unseen force, or just by sheer random momentum… but instinct says that's a bit tough. Whatever force it is that keeps things moving the way they are, you'd be fighting it… and no matter how "strong" you think you are, you're just one person.

Well basically… but let's no digress along those lines for now…

Another way to approach this is to just worry about your own perspective and none other. Take the leap, risk abandoning everyone in the universe.

That's easier, but again, more terrifying.

Perhaps the path to acceptance is to re-model your idea of who "the observer" or your "soul" truly is. All things are possible… so maybe we all exist in every reality all the time simultaneously. Time is an illusion and only exists here anyway… why would we limit ourselves to a single linear narrative?

The echoes of "all things are possible" in my mind tell me that I'm wrong, but that this is a model that's relatively safe to work with… hmm…

My instinct/guides/whatever really freaked out when I brushed off the multiple-man stuff … but I have other things to do right now so let's just do the quick notes:

- Your mind is not a single identity but a variety of thinking components working in partnership.

- There isn't so much a "you" as there is an emergent behavior based on the memories recorded throughout the nervous system.

- Within each system are sub-systems, and sub-sub-systems, and so on.

- Each would consider itself an "individual" as well, but none are "whole"… they are always made up of parts.

- The lower parts control the top, and the aggregate membrane that considers itself "a person" can do very little to influence what is happening underneath it.

- See also conscious/subconscious, mind vs cellular function, etc…

- But there is obviously SOME bleed-over… the trick has always been in improving that communication between layers.

- See meditation, hypnosis, etc…

This has something to do with the subject at hand… it is intimately related… can't quite work out how…

Done for now, but if there are other channels out there tuning into this same vibe, would love your input / questions… will keep the thread open until it disappears…

the "self", I think, is simply a term characterizing the observable manifestation of different psychological constructs (the so-called "complexes" in the original meaning), which interact with each other constantly, the Ego being simply a self-aware observer made up of a number of abovementioned constructs that came together to form a self-aware "being". The Ego is never static, nor is it strictly separate from the rest of the "self" - I kind of share the freudian view on this.

That was really more of an 80's thing. Once cameras became ubiquitous, alien sightings dropped way off for some reason.