meta thread (renamed from "Request to Board Owner")
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Lifestyle
gender-relations
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Masculinity
Criticism about the MGTOW lifestyle
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MGTOW defined
The four levels of MGTOWIn my observations (and practice) of MGTOW, I have taken note of a number of levels in which broad categories of MGTOWs may reside in. While Christians may vary widely in scope and status, they all revolve around a single idea: the birth and ressurrection of Christ. Similarly, feminists may claim to be wide in scope, but their ideas are all informed by one common rotten root: patriarchy theory. In the same vein, while MGTOWs may put into practice their ideas and concepts to differing extents, there lies one unifying idea that defines a MGTOW:
The recognition of the way modern society really works when it comes to the sexes, and a refusal to buy into and feed the system.
Note that this is hardly as neatly defined an idea as, say, the birth and resurrection of Christ, but it is what it is. It would be laborious for me to rehash why things are the way they are today (hypergamy, 80/20 rule, white knighting, Briffault's Law, et al) when other manosphere authors have gone over these topics over and over again, so I won't.
My reason for putting MGTOW into "levels" is not to suggest that there is an inevitable progression from one level to the next; there are many men who look at the situation and decide what hazards they're comfortable with dealing with, and then stay at that level, or move up or down as the situation befits. Nevertheless, my separation into levels is representative of the escalation of a MGTOW's increasing withdrawal from society at large and increasing starvation of the beast. It is difficult, but not impossible for a MGTOW to progress from one level to another without at least taking in part ideas and concepts from the previous level: while, for example, Cappy Cap still enjoys short-term relationships with women, he also particpates in economic disengagement.
Without further ado, the four levels of MGTOW:
Banner thread
Let's make some banners. They have to be 300x100px.
Infographics and OC thread
OC = Original Content for newfags.
It includes original infographics, funny memes etc. You can also post good MGTOW infographics in this thread even if its not your OC.
The old one seems to have 404ed. Creating a new one
the demise of guys
what do you think about zimbardo's book "the demise of guys"?
should I idenify as mgtow?
I meet all the qualifications to be a mgtow, the thing is I am a weeb, v-card and everything and don't ever plan on changing that. I am not saying this is reflective of mgtow in its entirety, as I am sure most of you fucks are relatively normal guys that have just put through the grinder, and now serve both as a warning and a promise to what happens to men if they let 3DPD have power over their lives.
The reason I am conflicted is because mgtow is very useful in explaining stances on things such as marriage and feminism, but I hate the idea of some purple-pill guy being trued off to the ideas and concepts mgtow has to offer, then going off and fucking his life, because he sees me and I fit the stereotype of what critics claim mgtow to be.
I know it doesn't really matter, just wanted your opinion.
BETABUX IS MAD
You've done it this time, MGTOW.
This man here is not too happy with your independent lifestyle.
politics
who do you support in politics? i support libertarians, imo it is the most masculine political ideology
Buying a house was the worse decision I have ever made
This is a post from reddit that was originally made in r/offmychest. For some reason the OP there was deleted. It was reposted in r/mgtow.
Here is the archive of the original post
Full text
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I have been working since I was 14, I'm 30 now, married and with a kid. I would have had $100,000 or more saved up by now if I never got married, didn't have a child, or bought a house and tie myself down to a 30 years mortgage. I regret so much marrying her, I regret so much having a child…and I regret so much buying a house. Before I use to do whatever I want…whenever I want. Now I can't even quit my shitty job and have to suck it up to asshole employees that think they are highly above you. If I never met her, never got married to her, never had a child, never bought this house, I would be so much happier and so much more free. Why were we fed with the fact that getting married, having a kid, owning a house, is the right way to live? I wish I could go back in time and should've broken up with her when I had the chance. I fucked up my own life. And tomorrow…I will have to wake up to drag myself into a 2 hours commute to a shitty job that I can't quit because I have a mortgage to pay and a child to feed. If I never met her I would be fucking freed from all this bullshit and do whatever the fuck I want. I wouldn't have to worry about the projects that's due for my boss, or waking up 6:30 in the morning to catch that fucking bus to commute a 2 hours ride to a shitty desk job and to fake these fucktards that expects everything they requested to be completed and handed back to them in the next hour, WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ASSHOLE, I DON'T FUCKING WORK FOR YOU. Then I go tell my boss and he just tells me to get it done and move on. Money does not buy happiness, if I can choose again I would rather make $20,000 a year and rent a $500 basement like I used to and live the fuck out of my life. I don't need all this, I don't want all this. I want my original life back. I feel like I'm just a dead soul in a living body. I used to be lively and had that flame and dreams, those slowly died once I aged and my wife tells me my dreams are not dreams…and I should just focus on better myself in education and get a better job and higher pay. But she doesn't know me, she doesn't know what I really want inside. I know she's doing this for the best of us but whenever I mention my dream job…she would shoot it down and become very unsupportive. Sometimes I have suicide thoughts and I would just think of ways to commit suicide. No one knows this and I don't want to tell anyone I know because I don't want to explain it to them. Sometimes I just wanna jump off a building and be freed from all these….things that's complicating my life…I just want a simple life…
''
Swiss married woman frees prisoner and flees to Syriah with new lover.
But there's nothing wrong with the womenz.
the anarchocuck platform for enabling femchildren
Femchild chimps out on Molyneux's show.
Wants male refugees to stay and fight their war in the Middle East.
Molyjew revs up his professionally trained tearducts.
lmao
>/pol/cucks will defend this
Reasons of Hypergamy
>female obesity rate
Women are getting fatter so thin and bangable women are getting harder and harder to attract because of this men are trying to get more fit. Women have higher standards because of this despite being warpigs themselves.
>tinder and OKC
It used to be a woman would have to meet you in person. Now she can access guys wayyy hotter than you that she would never have met before. Sure you might be able to get laid and on tinder and more power to you. But it is probably with a chick drastically lower in quality that you would get if such a thing didn't exist.
>Women in the workforce, and HR
Say you want to get married because you want a committed Wife to have children with and you do not believe in sex outside of marriage. Well women don't need to marry you affirmative action and them having higher college enrollment has lead to them getting jobs usually shuffling paper and gossiping such as HR. Women have hiring preferences and are more likely to hire their own.
On the contrary women being in HR may also discriminate against you. And lead to the disenfranchisement of men. Women not only have higher in group solidarity though stabbing each other in the back frequently, they mainly only see looks on men and social status than his resume. This will lead to them discriminating against men that aren't male models or a bit awkward but qualified for the job in favor of handsome guys that may or may not be qualified.
What this will do is this will disenfranchise men and prevent them from having the resources to raise a family or a stake in society.
>princess and bitch culture
This is pretty straight forward. Media does a lot to teach female entitlement. I frequently have seen shit on facebook reading something like "Every girl deserves to be treated like a princess."
This is why we hate feminism and oppose it with a passion.
MGTOW - good or bad for women?
http://thesanctuary-spacetraveller.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/mgtow-good-or-bad-for-women.html
spoiler alert, it's bad for women and great for men
A woman's greatest fear is abandonment. Or worse, never to have been approached in the first place.
Feminism encourages women to hide this fear.
Some do it well.
But here-in lies the problem: a fear will always remain as a fear unless it is resolved.
A quirk of Nature results in the following observations:
A man does not need a woman. He is capable of being a solitary entity his whole life, and he won't care.
His work/passion/hobby is his primary focus.
A woman needs people around her. The most efficient way to increase the entourage who share her DNA is to team up with a man. So technically, a woman needs a man.
A man's greatest physical need is sexual fulfilment (according to Dr Kevin Lehman). A man's greatest social need is his freedom.
These two needs are in direct conflict with each other. Marriage (read: a woman) satisfies one at the expense of the other.
But in the old days, men often chose marriage and hoped for the best with the other need. Sometimes it worked out well.
Other times it did not.
Then feminism separated 'woman' from 'marriage'.
All of a sudden, a man could eat his cake and have it too. A win-win situation!
Being a logical being, he did.
A woman's natural reaction to MGTOW would be something like this:
"Oh no, don't go! Stay!"
Because MGTOW reduces the number of men in her 'parade'.
Because she is a good communicator and needs people around her to communicate with.
But it is a counterproductive reaction.
Because MGTOW is a natural part of manhood.
the end of /r/mgtow
https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/4bi8ds/from_now_on_masturbatory_revenge_fantasies_will/
>There is one particular type of post on this subreddit that appears regularly and in doing so heavily detracts from the value that subscribers and newcomers alike find here - the Masturbatory Revenge Fantasy.
>This can come in several forms but is usually some kind of pseudo-transhumanist bullshit about how any day now artificial wombs will be making teh ebil wimminz obsolete, or how soon-to-appear sexbots will make all the wimminz jealous.
>The fact is, neither of these things is on the horizon. You add nothing of value to this subreddit by demonstrating how wounded and unable to cope with reality you are. This subreddit is about Men Going Their Own Way, and by wallowing in self-pity and revenge fantasies, you're not only failing to go your own way, you're holding back other men seeking their own liberation from disposability.
So it begins. Shaming language and censorship on /r/mgtow.
Male contraceptives could be available within 2 years
Hope it makes it to market
MGTOW banned from pol
I created a MGTOW general thread on /pol/
Was banned for shitposting.
Why?
Why do you do this?
You can't get laid?
So what?
Why?
What are you doing with your lives /mgtow/?
You are just giving up on women all together?
I will never understand you cucks, but maybe I will if you explain this stupid shit to me.
Divorcee wins 90 per cent of husband's wealth in bitter court battle
This dude is an older dude, so I have some sympathy for him.
Still this story shows how marriage cucks are always one step away from hell
A businesswoman who dumped her career to become a "conventional housewife" has had the last laugh on her "high-earning" ex husband - after being left with the whole of their family fortune by a divorce judge.
Company boss, Peter Morris, has nothing but his "anger" to show for 25 years of marriage after a series of court rulings.
But the couple's "extravagant" spending, both during their marriage and after their "bitterly contested" break-up in 2013, brought them "to the brink of financial disaster", reducing multi-million-pound family assets to just £560,000.
Divorce judges have handed Mrs Morris, 52, almost half a million pounds while her husband has been left with nothing, despite him being the only breadwinner in their family for nearly two decades.
Now, in a fresh blow to the software tycoon, his ex-wife is trying to have him jailed for failing to keep up with maintenance payments.
Making it to 30 without kids or a wife is awesome
Found this on Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/46quu7/making_it_to_30_without_kids_or_a_wife_is_awesome/
''I just want to say that I turned 30 a few months ago, and I made it without wifing some bitch up and/or knocking her up. It is really freaking great. I look at all these suckers I work with that are pretty much existing just to pay for their wife and kids. All they do all day is bitch and bitch about how much money their wives spent or how much they bitch.
Meanwhile I'm over here making 200k+ all to spend on myself. I just took delivery of a 60k sports car and doing whatever the hell I want to do. I didn't start this to brag. I want to just get through to guys that the BS that society spits out about having to get married and have kids is just that BS. I love not having to worry about some bitch taking half my shit.''
Faithful to 2D
>mfw abandoned 3dpd for superior 2D
>finishing my CENG degree next spring
>58k starting salary
>no alimony
>all the free time and resources I want all for myself
Am I doing good?
About sh0eonhead - The Anti MGTOW Internet Troll
This video is not made by a mgtow but a former mgtow. He even thinks that some part of mgtow is stupid.
But take a look at what he thinks about the troll sh0eonhead
Aversion To Discussion Is Not Rational
A perspective from Stardusk
MGTOW Literature
MGTOW has always pursued knowledge and truth in favor of comfort, and reading the right books can be beneficial in understanding what constitutes man and woman, and to develop one's own proper world view.
I've read some of Evola's Metaphysics of Sex before, and I've just started Weininger's Sex and Character today. Both are promising, but neither are an easy read.
Any other bookworms around?
Entrapment thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMJvx7fKzEY
Post anything related to paternity fraud, stopping them, etc.
Two important videos every MGTOW should watch
Two important videos every MGTOW should watch
PUA's for Women
As this MGTOW who I know at my local synagouge says "PUA's can make lots of money from scamming off men" and I was thinking about how about lets make PUA's for women.
Women would be too dumb and will fall for the PUA gudies and garbage. It's going to be like a redpilled Dating Magazine interactive TedXXX talk.
Just the thought of it tingles my Jew nose and will help out various MGTOWs.
Marriage threads in /pol/
Hah! Someone started 2 threads on marriage in /pol/.
Response expected.
News: Women Are Children
TFM summarizes it again.
blue pilled normies btfo
blue pilled normies btfo
pure mgtow hero
I don't want to live a loveless single life anymore. Im tired of prostitutes, they are more of a tease than anything. I've decided to make a change and be more social and confident!
Any tips?
MGTOW disproves the core value of /pol/fags
If someone can override their own biological and genetic programming, that means that anyone can, which means that niggers and jews are not going to be all of one mind, which is /pol/'s belief, ironically identical to the belief of leftists who think that ethnic groups should only agree with one ideology. It is a cuckold belief to the core, and disproven by the very notion of MGTOW. So they have to hate it. Just as religions have always hated scientific revelations.
It may be an uncommon exception, but the existence of it disproves the supposed genetic superiority that nationalist tradcucks believe. Ironically it also proves most jewish beliefs wrong, the idea of being "chosen by god," much like most other religious beliefs.
MGTOW getting married... to another MGTOW
So gay marriage is legal in the states now. It got me thinking. If a man marries another man, does that disqualify him/them from being MGTOW? I'm not talking about actual gays, just using the system for personal gain.
Marriage seems like a good strategic move if it's to someone who has zero chance of milking you for alimony and child support. I could see it catching on - like minded men pooling their resources and reaping the incentives for greater opportunity to do what they want with their lives.
If the whole MGTOW trend is born of the relationship game getting all fucked up, should we feel free to exploit the system?
Valentine's Day
As many Cucks go and buy expensive presents for their Jews with Breasts.
We enjoy our own day celebrating the definition on how to be a proper MGTOW.
What did you do today that defined your MGTOW standing and celebrated the Lifestyle of a MGTOW.
As for me I got myself a New Set of Caliber Sniper Rifles and Pistols.
The video here is by sandman and reviews a Book about a Dike Kike Lesbian that runs her own little Kool Kucks Clan.
Why do women cheat?
The rate of cuckolding, varies wildly from the different off hand reports, from 2%-30%, likely varying depending on the society.
When a man cheats, it means a reduction of allocation of resources to her, when a women cheats it means a man taking care of children that are not his and likely being rendered a genetic dead end. This difference in outcome causes evolutionary pressure shifting the emotions and behaviors that men and women have towards cheating, and as a result society as well. Male cheating is relatively more acceptable and open, female cheating is much less and more concealed. Evolution engineers women to be better at lying and concealing their infidelity, for men even being caught can be a bounces as it shows off to other women how in demand you are.
Women cheat because of a instinctive want to have several genetic inputs for their wombturds, they may be with a "nice guy" that provides, but will be tempted to get impregnated by the underwear model pool cleaner when he comes by. The nice guy beta will likely get a child or two, as well as unknowingly raise at least another that is not his. The alpha or sigma stud gets several children that are cared for by other men. Evolution pushes men toward wanting to be alphas and women toward wanting to cuckold as stealthily as they can.
Example: https://archive.is/myJJR
women are more trustworthy they said
The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflexion but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for, as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defence, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning. Dissimulation is thus inborn in her and consequently to be found in the stupid woman almost as often as in the clever one. To make use of it at every opportunity is as natural to her as it is for an animal to employ its means of defence whenever it is attacked, and when she does so she feels that to some extent she is only exercising her rights. A completely truthful woman who does not practice dissimulation is perhaps an impossibility, which is why women see through the dissimulation of others so easily it is inadvisable to attempt it with them. – But this fundamental defect which I have said they possess, together with all that is associated with it, gives rise to falsity, unfaithfulness, treachery, ingratitude, etc. Women are guilty of perjury far more often than men. It is questionable whether they ought to be allowed to take an oath at all.
On Extinction
I have a question - it's probably going to come off as a bit of a provocation or a challenge - for MGTOW, being a guy who sympathizes with Men's Rights issues. It looks like MGTOW and MRAs are getting pretty heavily divided against one another, and my impression of MGTOW is that your approach is not one of political activism but rather quiet detachment from society as a form of strike. My question is this, if this is your approach - and by all means correct me if it isn't - how will it be the whole of society which suffers the loss rather than MGTOW who opt out of it? Isn't opting out of reproduction the equivalent of self-genocide? Isn't exiting the political arena just going to leave your stance on gender issues to die?I suppose it sounds like I'm calling you guys quitters, and I kind of am, because I want to know what the MGTOW endgame is. It saddens me to see guys who develop a healthy respect for the male sex drive themselves into obscurity and extinction, like volunteering to kill yourself so that your enemy can take the field. I'm sure you don't think of yourselves that way, so maybe I have the wrong idea of it. Do I?
hero of feminist equality proves that women are inferior
http://louderwithcrowder.com/first-tennessee-female-to-enlist-in-combat-awol/#.VrYePfkrIdW
>Everyone was happy when the Obama Administration declared that women could serve in combat. This was a major stepping stone in equality and social justice! Take this one heartwarming story in Tennessee…
>Great story, right? Uplifting. Girl power. #YesAllWomen, etc.
>Here’s the rub…she went AWOL.
keep in mind, most of the tradcons reporting on this are the same ones who will tell you that "only men should be sent to die pointlessly for their uncaring leaders."
>Are we even worth defending if it means sending our daughters off to die? Well, maybe sending your daughter, anyway. Mine will not be sent anywhere. My daughter will not sign up for the draft, no matter what the government says. If this becomes law, I will break the law and do so proudly. I will not allow my daughter to be a part of this national disgrace, and if that means we must leave the United States altogether — good riddance. I honestly do not want to live in a country that uses its women as human shields.
NOOSE
/OC/
MY OC.
Take or leave it, but never be shamed by anyone.
54 Year Old Man's MGTOW Advice
I wish I had heard about MGTOW when I was younger, it would have saved me a lot of time, money, and grief. I implore you younger guys to listen to MGTOW and live it. Do not waste your time on women and get mixed up with them and tied down by them when you're below 40 years of age.
My story: I had a bad childhood and abusive parents and I think that lead me to want a relationship with a woman more than most guys in my 20's. I was a total mangina, Mr. Nice Guy. What an idiot I was, I actually brought them flowers, did them favors, tried to get nice guy points and couldn't understand why women mostly rejected me or dumped me after a couple dates. They walked all over me. I ended up with a woman who already had a kid from another man. A 3 year old boy. BIG MISTAKE. I supported the two of them for years, took the boy on as my own and had a daughter with the woman. Within 9 months of her having our daughter, I caught her screwing around with some older man at her work. No shit. Long story short, we ended up in family court and let me tell you guys. As a male, you are screwed in family court. SCREWED. Your case is decided by a court mediator and all the court mediators are women. When I arrived on time for the meeting, she was already there talking to her and the mediator gave me a look when I entered and said (no shit), "Is that him." with a snippy attitude. I was already screwed. They have the woman arrive first so they get her side of the story first and then you come in and you are screwed. I had to fight like hell just to get two weekends a month with my daughter and I had to pay $500 a month and medical insurance and so on. But you know what guys? Due to my bad childhood, I was determined not to screw over my kid and I faithfully visited my daughter and did the best I could and made sure she had good clothes, went to good schools, and I took her to places on our weekends and never missed one. Although the mother was often not home during our pick up times and playing all sorts of disruptive games to fuck with me. By the way, my daughter is now 23 and going to an ivy league medical school. No kidding. That is the greatest accomplishment of my life, I broke the cycle of abusive. I love my daughter and did a great job as a father. But the years dealing with her mother and paying so much money to her that she spent on herself was disgusting. She moved in and out with five different guys during my daughter's childhood. It was horrible for me to put up with but I had no choice. That experience along with the experiences of being used by so many other women taught me that MGTOW is totally the way to go. Do not let them use you and ruin you. Work on yourself and focus on yourself and be selfish, my friends. Being selfish is good. Get a marketable degree, focus on your career, build good credit and build wealth and assets. Develop hobbies and interests and have fun. Become a pilot, do scuba diving, boating, hiking, etc. Until you are 40, women are walking vaginas, nothing more.
I'm married now to a Russian woman. She was here in the states for 8 years before I married her, she's no mail order bride. And she has not been infected with western feminism and never will be. I've been married to her for 10 years. I'm 54 years old. This is a part of MGTOW not talked about, what to do when you get older. Most men wise up to women by the time they are 40 or so and become MGTOW whether they know it or not and most women stop playing games when they are 40. They hit the wall and no longer have their looks to play games with men so they can no longer manipulate them. Matter of fact, most American women are fat blobs by the time they hit 35.
I have a great relationship and my wife is slim and hot looking for 44. I think this is only possible for older men and women and even then you have to be very very careful who you pick. I would NEVER chose an American or westernized woman for a mate.
Just thought I would share. Take my advice and be MGTOW and do not let a woman ruin your life by getting involved with them. And when you're 40 or so and feel you're ready be very careful in who you choose.
Do older women like young and plush men?
Or do they see them as needy and desperate
23 years male
5'6
~230lbs and climbing
Distinctive pear shape
I also have small girlish hands,they bruise easily so I don't do any kind of manual labor whatsoever . Due to my part time office job I have a very sedentary lifestyle and my ass keeps increasing as does my lower belly and thighs.Which is good for sitting all day in an office chair but not soo good when I have to walk more than 10 min. Im also extremely pale so being in the sun is out of the question unless I want to peel my skin like a snake for a week. Elevators are contributing to this since I live on the 11th floor and the office is on the 15th floor (walking the stairs will leave me drenched in sweat). IT also doesn't help much since the bus stops are right outside the building I live , very close to where I work and near the university I go to.
My boss(manager really but I answer to her directly so she might as well be my boss) made some inquiries ones and from what I could tell she was enjoying my story.
Said boss, keeps leaving donuts around the office. She also always has a smug smile when she sees me out of breath and panting.She has me working with her night shifts where we sort documents and it always ends in her using me as a pillow 2-3 hours in while I keep sorting the papers. Chimes in with how soft my hands look and how nimble my fingers are. She's either in her late 20s or early 30s.
Doesn't seem to particularly like other women though, has this sheer contempt when she speaks to any of them other at the office and is cold with the other men . I seem to be the exception. The men I don't mind since we are by default massive dicks to each other, but the women are……like harpies, snide passive-aggressive remarks of me bing a pig and such, and just makes work a pain.
She keeps saying how "cute" I look and is hellbent on making me bigger. .Does she do this feel skinnier?
She's not fat in any way and is at least a head above me in hight. Also says how soft men are so much better to cuddle.
Is it a power trip? Or is fattening me up so that when she makes a move towards me I won't decline, and she gets someone who will stay with her? She does strike as a dominatrix type though.
What's the worst that can happen if I go for it?
Keep in mind that Bulgaria (and most of Eastern Europe) there is no such thing as feminism, and due to our communist past the women have it in their heads that screwing men the same way that western women do doesn't end up very well for them since laws are not being enforced as much as they are in the west.
Movies
Recommend me some good MGTOW films.
Apathy=/=Solution
My mother is from Belgium, my father from Uruguay, I was born in Uruguay.
Now the whole family lives in Uruguay, my father is retired yet my mother is still working.
Everytime the subject of ethics, morals and anything related to phylosophy comes up at any time in the house, my mother ends up talking about how women at the workplace, here and in most of latinamerica (and I guess USA too, looking at what you people post) are the shittiest workers possible. They are of fake values and very hypocritical. My mother as a flemish Belgian is a work machine. She wakes up at 3.00 AM and comes home at 2 PM, my dad since retired hasn't done jack shit and some days he is quite unhappy about it. Take into account my mother is alread past 60 years and using this schedule, which is quite heavy.
Even though it is a heavy hour load, she wakes up at 3 am because she does a little bit of excercice so she stays healthy, she eats like a bird and mostly nuts/dry fruits/cheese/vegetables. She's always insisting in that european body's are made for this food.
She provides the home with a good income, better than most people have in this shit hole of a country.
She doesn't only hate women at the workplace, in fact, most men at the workplace are the same lazy shits, except the lack of morals and ethics, most men are a bit more stoic but still far less hard working than her.
She says there is jack shit of a pay gap at her job, she works her ass off and that's why she gets paid better than everyone except some german that seems to work as hard or harder. The rest of the men and women (most raised in Uruguay) get paid a lot less since they are not hard working.
All this being said, this woman-man dychotomy you guys have, I don't get it because I live here, and not in america. Here men and women alike starve if they don't work hard. But I am not here to tell you this, I am here to tell you that:
You should get your heads out of your asses and work hard. You people would describe me as some "tradcon" (traditionalist conservative I guess) or White nationalist. We all know they are simply labels. We are the masters of our future and there are women like my mother who aren't shit, it is not an inbuilt flaw that women have, it is your shitty ass culture (not that mine is better, but in this aspect it looks like it is) that gives women all they want without asking anything in return.
You need to have children and provide, so the future becomes a better place. Either that or you let it burn as the "nihilists" (nihilism as jack shit with the sniveling apathy some people display here).
This board is slow and not very crowded, so i do not expect a good deal of responses but I am open to discussion.
Emma Watson should spend a week in Calais migrant camp for Feminism
https://www.change.org/p/emma-watson-spend-one-week-in-a-calais-migrant-camp-for-feminism
>In order to show how safe current migration is to Europe, particularly regarding the cause of feminism (I reject wholeheartedly the notion that North African and Middle Eastern migrants are unsafe, and rapists), Emma Watson should spend a week's holiday in a Calais migrant camp, without guards of course, to show how safe, and how pro feminism these migrants are.
Do it, Emma. The oppressed peoples of the world need you!
White Vagina Worshiping Nationalists Are Con Artists
It’s not a coincidence that Gage is a con artist. Any man who starts buying into manuresphere ideology or one of its components like white vagina worshiping nationalism is going to have trouble with gainful productive employment or running their own business. All that is left for them is to become a con artist trying to sell game (or something related like NLP).
The same thing was true with white vagina worshiping nationalists before they discovered game. The redemption conspiracy theory is a conspiracy theory where there was a secret account of $630,000 which you could access if you signed the right government forms. This conspiracy theory was created by Roger Elvick, a white vagina worshiping nationalist, who used the conspiracy theory to defraud other white vagina worshiping nationalists. Elvick ended up in jail but lots of white vagina worshiping nationalists STILL believe that the redemption conspiracy theory isn’t a scam.
This just proves that white vagina worshiping nationalists (including the manuresphre) are all con artists by definition. They hate MGTOW because MGTOW will never fall for their scams.
Music that Triggers /mgtow/'s
I posted this video a little while back, but in the meantime the artist made a music video about fathers being overprotective of their daughters. Which kind of blinds the audience to what is really happening.
Feminization of mankind
Despite the amounts of estrogen I. Americans. There is a few societies that will have Masuline traits instead of Feminine ones.
These societies act very extreme and have a lot of death which shows signs of Retaliation and absolute Total War before surrendering.
Apple Computers is a Feminist Hell Gateway
Apple computers provides a way that Women and Feminists will take control over the Internet and the freedom of male thought.
Post what we could do to provide a better MGTOW internet
People such as SandJew have promoted Forums and Deep Internet websites. Also I won't be suprised if half the shitposters on MGTOW use iPhones and dumbed down technology for WombMen.
"I do no sex"
Woman in the video clearly has some problems in the upper storey but I also wonder whether these are the beginnings of another feminist buzzphrase
Also the comment lower down by Traversable MGTOW encapsulates the MGHOW perspective on this
Cuckholds and Hypergamy
Back at the great /pol/, we call the hypergamous nature of women Cuckholding. Not only because it's catchy but also to show that it is CLEARLY wrong and may call for missteps like race mixing or killing children with abortion.
>Here is a song that will teach everything you to learn about the Cuckening
Lesbians Vs. MGTOW
A major part of Feminism would be all the Dyke College Student Lesbians. Lesbians are a part of the tree of insanity named feminism.
MGTOW songs
Post some songs that you would think a MGTOW would listen to
>inb5 Justin Beiber or some closet homofags.
Abortion and MGTOW
What does /MGTOW/ think about abortion. I think it prevents a major change in life that everyone is expected to take. This responsibility is very delicate to the survival of the white Aryan Masterrace. However, white women are aborting their white Aryan babies because they want to have more sex with people like Tyrone and Jamal. With making abortion pills illegal she will have to give birth to a healthy Aryan child and then go have s3x with Tyrone and Jamal
>Post what you believe about abortion.
"Peter Pan syndrome"
I remember when I was growing up I would often hear different women say "well now that they are getting married she will settle him down" and other things similar to this. If the young guy enjoyed his muscle car and going to the races on the weekends then somehow he was not a man but a boy. Unless that man was married and had a hobby that was wife approved then he was still considered a boy.I remember watching my sister do this to my brother in-law. For the most part she did her best to cut him off from his friends, discourage the hobbies he enjoyed. Isolation from the things he enjoyed in life to ensure that she was in control of his pleasure and happiness. My father on the other hand was a bit different, he just did what he wanted to do and don't you dare question it. His attitude was "When you pay the bills you can do what you want" and he did live by that. This is why I was going fishing with him since I was 4 years old and hunting since I was 5. I remembered the joy of him coming home after being on a 3 or 5 day deep sea fishing trip and pawing over all the fish he caught.
By today's standards my father would have been considered a "Peter Pan" guy. About the only changes he made in his life were changes that was to protect me from myself, for example he stopped loading his own ammo not too long after I was born.
The thing is that women of today have become so damn narcissistic that if they are not the center of your world then something is wrong. They cannot accept the fact that the man in their life may have outside interest. Trying to explain this rationally is only met with a brick wall of denial. In order to cover up for this short-coming women often resort to shaming tactics.
With some men this is an effective tactic, after all question his manhood and he will try and prove otherwise. If the man has any sort of an I.Q. beyond babbling out "yes maam", then this tactic is ineffective. To put it another way, if the man has a huge ego, then yes shaming will work. However if the man is confident, then shaming will not work at all.
18 years as a MGTOW
MGTOW is just a better, lower stress, more peaceful, more stable, and vastly more prosperous way to live. I'm now 18 years into the new direction I chose for myself back in 1997. I was pretty sad when it became so obvious that I'd have to give up having a family but now, 18 years later, things turned out pretty good. If you remove the parasites, a host can grow strong and prosperous.
At one time women weren't parasites. They actually contributed a lot of critical stuff but nowadays with laundry machines and modern appliances for cooking, they really don't pull their own weight, so a smart guy will remove them from his life or limit his contact with them dramatically and stay out of legally binding contracts with them.
La Nausée
It feels like there is a group of MGTOW who go along the following path:
>Before, I was willing to act servile to a female, my god, how wrong I was, I'm not a slave.
>Yeah, fuck women and having children. I'm going to do my own thing.
>…
>shit, what the fuck do I do with my life?
>existentialcrisis.jpg
Of course, it may not exactly fit that form, but it feels like there are a lot of MGTOW that face some sort of large existential crisis.
I'm not here to pitch solutions of my own, I just find it interesting how men find different meanings in their life after a bit of red pill nausea (and just the mere fact that men can be so caught up being slaves that they forget to live their lives), and would like to hear stories of others.
Male Feminists
Male feminists exist on a spectrum that runs from well-meaning but misinformed to spineless, pathetic cuckold because feminism justifies total emasculation.
A movie every MGTOW needs to see. A Streetcar Named Desire, a.k.a when women hit the wall.
A movie every MGTOW needs to see. A Streetcar Named Desire, a.k.a when women hit the wall. https://youtu.be/1CEzGAhMUno
Would You?
Would you ever be with a woman if she provided her fair share in the relationship and had sex when you wanted it? For women there are so many birth control options that I don't understand why they still hold it back.
Practical MGTOW thread
I often get too caught up in all the hysteria on Youtube and forget to just enjoy the MGTOW life.
In this thread, we drop the frustration and the Internet fights and we share our knowledge about bettering our lives.
Lesbians infecting Feminism
The ultimate ending for Feminists that have stucken around this long could be possibly becoming outright Lesbians.
The great thing about being a MGTOW is that you can never become a faggot because you are sexually inactive, if you were active and cucking you run a awful risk of becoming a womanized faggot because of how much estrogen gets released into a man during sex.
>Post what you think is the ultimate ending for Feminists.
Social Collapse? Large wave of Homosexuality? White Racial Destruction?
The Maleocaust
I have one question for you MGTOW's.
Are they on to us?
How long will we be able to shitpost about women's behavior until the Lesbian-like U.N. shuts us down.
Craigslist Red Pill Story - The Hungry Date
;)
THE RED PILL
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cassiejaye/the-red-pill-a-documentary-film
>A feminist filmmaker follows the Men's Rights Movement and begins to question her own beliefs. A comprehensive look at Gender Politics.
Could be bretty good.
Are NAWALT's a myth?
Sup brotherhood.Is the concept "Not all women are like that" a myth? or is it simply their accessibility to do that? Are there factors in them being reared that change them from being complete selfish assholes?
I get that perhaps there are changes that make the EXTREME stories less likely such as bipolar disorder.
But if you are well off and wealthy, are you almost guaranteed to get fucked because of class warfare provides little empathy for non-mgtow husbands who foolishly got married and the wife doesn't feel the need to provide empathy to the poor sap?
Consider:
Steve: Annual income of 25,000. Average guy. Average parent. Good looking but not presentable or dressed like alpha. Had 1 kid with Julie.
Julie: Normal female character. No unique or troubling personality disorders. Very pleasant to most people in general. Decides to divorce Steve. Doesn't see the need to take such a low income sap to the cleaners because there is little to clean out. Would say to other men that "NAWALT" and would use herself as an example.
Same people new scenario:
Steve: Just won the lottery just before marrying Julie. They get married have same single child. Same character, but now can afford to be presentable with cars, nice home, and clean up his looks to look more alpha.
Julie: Sees Steve regularly as alpha male presentable and is accustomed to the assets he has and provides for her. She also has same personality traits as before. BUT Now when contemplating divorce, doesn't feel that Steve is in need of his money as he is a lottery winner.
Will the same person take Steve to the cleaners and no longer be considered "NAWALT". Is the very fact of female "spouses" having their man have a good income turn women predatory?
Let me hear your thoughts.
JUST
>$900,000/yr in alimony
How is this even real life?
Sex Differences When Sharing Money (THE SAAD TRUTH_83)
Psych: Men and women behave quite differently from one another when playing the Ultimatum and Dictator Games.
head of state recognizes male victims of DV, warned not to do that
>The irony is the premier never stated she would acknowledge male victims, focus on their concerns, or create services for them. She only stated, “I do understand that there are a number of men have gone through or are going through [domestic violence]. I actually did change my language when it did become public because it was brought to my attention that there was some serious issues surrounding some men in our community needing help as well. I do think that is something we do need to address a bit more.”
>Yet this prompted the above reactions that inexplicably attack male victims and minimize their experiences. It may be the case that more women are victims of domestic violence than men. If there are more female than male victims, what purpose does it serve to smack down abused men? How does it help women by saying we should treat domestic violence as a gendered issue? How does mentioning male victims and helping them in any way stop people from helping women?
of course, when a woman considers herself a "victim" it's usually the result of her instigating, or otherwise outright lying.
>feminism
not even once
Into the Wasteland
A good video both for people new to MGTOW and the men a few years into it
Back to Blue Pills - MGTOW
If you are allergic to Sandman, please skip this video and this thread. I have my own dislikes of Sandman but every now and then he makes a video that brings up important points. I thought this was one of them
Nico and Spetsnaz
a great chat between these two. I have a lot of respect for Spetsnaz and a think Nico is a strong newer voice.
Emotional detachment
A video that suggests that it is not natural for men to be too emotional and that contemporary trend advising men to be more emotional is not actually good for men
roboGFs
Are robo gfs mgtow?
Why did you join the movement?
I'm curious as to why you have decided to go your own way. Was it a certain event in your life that suddenly jarred you awake, or did you just gradually realize on your own that it made sense for you to live like this?Many see this movement as butthurt betas who couldn't get a woman if they wanted, so they joined this movement to make it seem like it is their choice, but I don't think that is true of many of us.
I've always been successful with women, I've had around 40 sexual partners, a handful of actual serious relationships, and it's not difficult for me to approach women, but over the last couple of years I've realized that, logically, "going my own way" is the smarter choice for my life. I've seen great men like Schwarzenegger, Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods, etc. nearly get ruined by gold-digging whores. I've seen regular men like you and me be fucked over by women. Cheating, using, abusing, etc. good men.Most women wouldn't think twice about fucking up the rest of a man's life for their own personal gain.
Some argue that there are good women out there, and I agree. There are. However, the chances of getting a bad one are far too high for me to be comfortable with anything other than a one-night-stand. Everything in my life could be ruined in a heartbeat. And, as many women are amazing at deception, it's too difficult to tell the difference between a good woman and one who is just playing the part.
My plan, as I do want children, is to find a good surrogate mother, give her my seed so that she can birth my child, and then be a single father. I'll likely hire a nanny to help with childcare. I will be smart about the legal side of things, getting an airtight contract with the surrogate and such. Hell, artificial wombs and realistic sexbots may be a thing in the near future, which would completely remove any necessity women may hold. What about you guys? Many peoples' plans revolve around marriage and family, what about you?
Coping mechanisms
How do you guys cope with the loneliness? Is it just rage that gets you through? As much as we hate to admit it, we are animals, and we do have a biological need for closeness and intimacy. How do you handle the knowledge that you will never experience that?I ask this not in a presumptuous or dismissive or passive aggressive manner – I ask because I legitimately wish to know how you cope with it. I'm beginning to come to grips with my recent diagnosis of schizoid personality disorder, and I see in you guys a group of people whom I could learn from.
Even if I woke up tomorrow 100% committed with every fiber of my being to getting married, buying a 3.6 bedroom house, having 2.2 kids and 1.3 animals I would never be able to make it to the third date, even with an ideal, perfect woman who doesn't exist and is infinitely patient. So I'm coming at this from a little different direction than you guys are, even though the end result is the same. It isn't a choice for me like it is for you guys, I'm going to be like this no matter what I choose.
I also don't want to emulate your rage. This isn't to say that your anger is unfounded, but rather that I am incapable of experiencing the things which brought it about. I am the fox; I cannot reach the grapes, so for me to say that they are sour is disingenuous, whereas you have had bloody great mouthfuls of grapes and know for a fact how bad they taste.
Nonetheless, I want to learn from you, how you cope, and how you deal with it. Even if we come from different perspectives and backgrounds we arrive in the same situation.
Am I overreacting?
Let me explain.
Girls don't want guys flirting. They don't want us looking at other girls, or even thinking about them. That makes perfect sense, because it hurts your feeling.
But am I wrong to want my gf to dress down when she's taken? Girls may not flirt as much, or check out guys as much, but they dress up and do their makeup, and act in ways to draw attention to them. This is an indirect way of attracting guys. The problem is that what we do is conscious and what they do is subconscious. So they feel as if they're not doing it for guys at all.
So, am I wrong for wanting my gf to dress more modestly and stop wearing makeup or drawing attention to herself when she's taken?
Here's a more specific example of what happened:
My gf is going out on to a business party. She was gonna dress up, wear lipstick (ew, she never wears lipstick), high heels, curl her hair (never does this either), etc.
I told her that it didn't make sense that she would dress up for people she literally sees EVERY SINGLE DAY. I told her I didn't want her to go if it's just gonna be a time for her to show off. She insisted she was going anyway.
Well, turns out the company she works for would only allow company uniforms at the party and they wouldn't be serving food. She decided not to go, which kinda pissed me off because THAT is what changed her mind and not her own boyfriend's concern and feelings.
Am I overreacting? I don't know.
Proposed theme song for the board.
MGTOW - Melancholics Going Their Own Way
melancholy, SadGTOW general
>tfw doing your daily walks
>tfw your depression gets a low
>tfw listening to embed related
>tfw you ponder if maybe you're feeling real emotion now and not just the lack of it
>tfw maybe it's not as bad as you thought
>tfw teary eyed but smiling Pepe face
>tfw can't post my face because posting from the new onion proxy
ITT Sandman
"Remember to like me on facebook or follow me on twitter to get tomorrow's video today. Thanks for taking your daily dose of red pills. And rememberrrr … a red pill a day, keeps the divorce lawyers, away! So enjoy the rest of your day aaaaaaand cheers."Can this fag get any more pandering?
Traditionalism put women on a pedestal from which sprang up Feminism
Discuss.
In my opinion there is some truth in this. To be fair to traditionalism it did have assigned gender roles for men and women but then it also did put women on a pedestal. This pedestal is what makes it hard for Western Civilization to combat feminism to this day.
We have all the disadvantages of traditionalism in that men are still expected to treat every woman like a princess with none of its advantages.
NEW MGTOW HIT PEICE
Ok so it is not that new, only 2 weeks old:
Basically it can be summed up as "Men NEED pussy there is no alternative, anyone that says otherwise is a pathetic loser that could never get any even if they wanted too, which they do because penis.
Yeah no thank you, I've had pussy and I don't care for it, what are you going to do about, next he will be saying the gays need pussy too!
>While it might inflate the bloated ego of the average “migtow” to be compared to great religious movements of the past and present, MGTOW fails even on that front. Monks and nuns don’t take the vows because they’re angry at not being able to get a date, they choose their lifestyles because they want to become closer to God.
Yeah I'm not angry with women, I mean sure many of us are, but I value self-control over hedonism, there for I forgo women for things I find more appealing. Its like diet and exercise: I could eat donuts, or I could run 3 miles, I'll take the running. Monks and Nuns could live the normal life or they could worship their sky daddy completely, they take the latter. I could get pussy or I could use that money and time for travel, sports, hubbies, I'll take the latter thank you very much… oh what's that I'm a total fucking loser, sure man what ever.
>Aside from avoiding women (in actuality being rejected by them), VGTOWs indulge in every vice available to them, from Cheetos to video games to masturbation. Their lifestyles are the very opposite of self-control.
Even if every mgtow was just a fat, omega male virgin that just jacks off and eats cheetos, so what? That his choice, not your fucking problem, go bash the gays why don't you? Oh that right it is not PC to bash them, but it is PC to bash pathetic virgins.
>The “migtow” aversion to interacting with women also has a less pleasant parallel to radical feminism. In the 1970’s, extremist feminists such as Andrea Dworkin argued for “political lesbianism,” where feminists only had relationships with other women, regardless of their sexual orientation. Dworkin’s logic was that since men were oppressing women, feminists who dated men were literally fraternizing with the enemy.
Well I agree mgtow does have parallels, a feminist once said some like "If you were given a jar of candies and if 10% of those candies was poisoned, would you eat them?, same goes for men" Well I agree totally Just replace men for women. Look it is just a simple fact that very few marriages end happily, why run those odds when I could spend that time and money on things more likely to be rewarding? I don't care if it was feminist's fault or if marriage always sucked or what ever, its dead to me, the end.
Repessing emotions
I've been doing the MGTOW thing for a few years now, and I've been mostly happy. Lonely sometimes, but that's what's a Fleshlight is for.Anyway, lately I've been feeling myself lapsing into my old ways. I think I am falling for a girl I work with, but I don't want to get fucked over again.
How do I repress natural feelings? I've been so good at it so far, but I feel like I'm failing.
Straight White Male Sovereignty Manifesto
Straight White Male Sovereignty is the radical idea that straight white men should advocate for themselves and only themselves.
Nonwhites hate us, they have always hated us. White women betrayed us and voted for more government and more immigration. Non-heterosexual whites have joined ranks with nonwhites and white women to overthrow the civilization we created in the last couple thousands of years. "Our government" is not ours anymore, it's only interested to create more and more victim groups that are easily controlled. "Our churches" have collaborated with our governments.
No one will fight for us if we don't fight for ourselves. No one will love us if we don't start loving ourselves. We may be the pinnacle of human evolution on this planet, yet if we don't realize our weaknesses, we won't stand the test of time. Our greatest weakness is what used to be our greatest strength: empathy.
We have to ditch this empathy towards white women, nonwhites and queers. Empathy is like respect, it's not deserved, it's earned.
Our empathy toward our elected officials has lead to this huge government.
Our empathy towards women have lead to feminism.
Our empathy towards nonwhites has lead to mass immigration.
Our empathy towards queers has lead to the demonization of our sexual instincts.
We've been thrown under the bus. Now we have to revive our more primal values: reason, vigor and autistic vigilance. We have to be the very things we've always been: innovators.
The only way we won't go extinct is if we grab and utilize new reproductive and other technologies.
With surrogacy and genetic engineering, we can make sure to make the strongest brightest and most adaptable white sons.
With 3D printing and the power of the Internet we can make anything we want, including weapons for our self defense against the "colourful", estrogen-filled degenerate hordes.
Combining the ideas of white supremacy, MGTOW and anarcho-capitalism we can be the most productive group of people that has ever existed on Earth.
Join this (counter?)revolution! Say these words:
"I'm a straight white man. I feel no shame for any of those qualities. My ancestors have built this world and me and my descendents shall inherit it. I will fight with the demon of empathy towards those who don't deserve it. I will resist the sexual temptation of women. I will resist being guilt tripped by nonwhites, queers and by the government. I will love myself and my fellow straight white male unconditionally and strive for my own and his life, liberty and pursuit of happiness."
horror
Sandjew
What does /mgtow/ think about Sandjew?I'm really fed up with all of the environmentalist bullshit he's putting in to a lot of his videos.
Also, he's made MGTOW videos a commodity.
Dating and MGTOW
What's your dating or casual sex life like? This mainly applies to level 0 MGTOWs and level 1s.
I am 20 and I go on dates semi regularly from women I meet on and form friends with benefits relationships with girls or do one night stands. As in just hang out I don't spend a cent on her and we have sex regularly. I'm 20 and can't get into bars since I am in the USA and women younger than 20 are often let into bars without being carded, while I who goes to a commuter school have online dating as my only choice.
I can't seem to date girls that are physically fit despite being fit myself.
>HURR I hate PUA
Yes I agree that PUA is a scam. By and a large they deny that looks, money, and status can be overcome. That is what you need to get laid.
MGTOW images
Hypergamy explained.
Women Can't Find Husbands!
http://conservativewoman.co.uk/laura-perrins-we-should-ask-ourselves-why-men-wont-commit/
http://conservativewoman.co.uk/laura-keynes-commitment-shy-men-lie-behind-the-fertility-crisis/
>We can't find Husbands to impregnate us
>Men do something about it!
Men:
>Meh, I'll just play vidya
Women brought this upon themselves with their devotion to gynocentrism and feminism. Making gynocentric demands on men who are done with gynocentrism aren't going to work.
Why should I get off my ass to help women wipe theirs? Clean your own damned mess.
I'll just leave this here
:)
The Decline of Marriage
People choosing marriage less and less. Not a shocker for MGTOW but amusing to see the rest of society react to its
Should I move in with a lesbian housemate?
Hey guys,
I've been shopping around for a new house to rent with one of my dormitory acquaintances. We seem to get along ok, have some similar interests; and she seems to be fine with my current unsocial, weird, NEET autism, and anon lifestyle. The only catch: she's a lesbian, and I'm an anti-feminist who follows the MGTOW philosophy.
I should point out that we're strictly friends since obviously she's not into the D, she's literally a walrus, and I'm MGTOW.
I've subtly vetted her a bit over the last few weeks to check the usual things like her financial sensibility, psychological sensibility (she has depression, but seems fine otherwise - no idea if she's hiding her true self) and her honesty etc.
Another that thing I checked for was if she's a typical lesbian, i.e. a misandric feminist. She seemed to be relaxed on the topic when it came up, and she somewhat sheepishly agreed with me when I said that I think modern feminism is a load of toxic horse shit. However, she seemed to be quiet on the matter, and promptly changed the subject.
So here's where shit gets confusing, she just shared this video on her facebook a few hours ago, and was all like "woooo you go girl… nothing like love between two girls… guys are such pigs!" Needless to say, I'm thinking twice about moving in with this person.
Some further info: the properties we're looking at are 1 year lease minimum, and if she turns out to be a psychotic, controlling, gynocentric, typical-lesbian, and I decide to break lease, then I'm liable to cover rent until either she or the real-estate agency finds another tenant.
Any wisdom and advice would be very much appreciated, cheers.
Economics of Sex
Video hits on all the rights points, even the possibility that we men could get women on their knees begging us to marry them if we wanted that.
Women and Race
How accurate is this chart?
So why are you guys afraid of women?
Im not afraid of women, since I know that sometimes they need to be put back in their place via corrective spanking.
You guys should learn to be alpha and dominate your relationships, it is a great feeling having a woman submit herself to you.
How do I stop wanting relationships?
It's quite simple: How do I stop wanting to be loved by a woman? To be sexually validated by a woman? How do I stop beating myself up for being a virgin at 24 while literally everyone I know is not?
fucking parents
I thought I'd share a story from today as I was sitting on my patio, drinking a glass of wine while watching funny cat videos on my laptop.
I'm basically a ghost and live on seafront property with an acre of land. It's nearly the height of the tourist season, and although I would never do it, these tourists think it's okay to cut through my property to go and hike in the neighboring woods. So I don't think anything of it when about 10 of them cut through my driveway. I would like to tell them to fuck off, but I'd get a bad reputation amongst the local owners.
So 30 minutes later a couple walks into where I'm sitting and ask me if I've seen their little girl. They lost their daughter somewhere and now they're looking at me. She could have fallen off a cliff and be riding a riptide halfway to another island by now, but I don't say that. I simply say, 'no'. Then there's that awkward pause as they just look at me. I know what's going on in their minds - they're recording my description in their minds in case they need to call the police later so at least they'll have one suspect.
So I say I saw them all walk in, but no one has been down where I'm at… where you're at - on my fucking property without permission. I didn't say it exactly like that but they got the idea.
So they walk off without saying thanks or goodbye to me, calling for their lost womb turd.
They killed my perfect vibe, and all I could think about after is if this fucking kid is really lost or under the sea, I'm going to need a lawyer.
Feminism Is Communism
https://mgtowrevolution.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/feminism-is-communism/
“When women go wrong men go right after them.”
– Mae West
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” Winston Churchill wrote this over a century ago.
Feminism killing off White Population
What does MGTOW have to do with the lowering of white population. I believe Feminism has a larger part in this for these reasons.
>Denying requests for white men to breed and raise large white families
>Promotes racemixing and the annihilation of their own race.
>Causes MGTOW to exist because of the anger white men go through in convincing their chicks to BREED.
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>Talk about how feminism has a impact in the lowering in the white population
>Make sure to also post sexy porn pics to encourage men to talk things out with their sutpid a.f. white chicks.
Traps?
Would any other /mgtow/ people consider a relationship with a trap? It seems a viable solution. The beauty of a woman, but the mind of a man. No more lies and manipulative bullshit.
Man's best friend
Since a dog's company is more valuable than a woman's, could you recommend me some good dog breeds for a shut-in like me?
Pic unrelated
Real Life Sex Robots
Believe it or not the fantasy of having sex robots at your command is now a reality. Real doll, a sex doll company, is investing in robotics so their sex dolls would be more animated and alive. Not a lot of biopussy would like this, but it sure is a step in the right direction for outright female replacement robots.
>Seuxal Robots are in the development of becoming real. Aka, you can go fk one if you pay enough for one.
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http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/12/realdoll-robots-ai-realbotix/
>If it was deleted.
Gynocentric Media
Lots of movies and music videos are very gynocentric are insults to men. For example madonnas material girl song of where men are complete objects while she dances around. It's male cruelty and we need to find influence into media to bring back real strong men.
Why Hatred and Disgust?
I'm a fairly normal dude. I have a job, and an apartment, and a fiance. I live in a nice city and have a pretty good life.I've been checking out the MGTOW scene for about a week now, and I keep having the same question come to mind: Why do you maintain such venom towards women?
I dig that y'all are jaded and have been fucked over. Many of you have enormous philosophical misgivings with the inherent unfairness of the system. All of us have been burned in the past. Some of us are going to be again.
Going your own way seems like it would necessitate leaving behind that hatred though. Lose the dead weight. So much of the MGTOW community isn't walking your own path, it's looking back and bitching about how things aren't how you want. It is pretty fucking unmanly. Feminists do the exact same thing and seem just as weak for it.
Think of the children
/Pol/ here. I have a question.
Do any of you will make children, and independently of the money issues and on a larger scale, is your movement against the whole idea of procreating?
I want to know it because if a population make less than 2,1 children per women, it disappear. The less kids, the faster it disappear.
I want to know if we can see you as allies in the fight for civilization or if we should label you as race traitors. I want to know if you hate the feminist rapemachine so hard that you want to destroy the best part of the world, and most importantly, I want to know if I should insult someone who is friendly to your way or if I should support him.
Are you my nemesis, /mgtow/?
That feel when never had a gf before and am a virgin. But ive read so much bad things about them and their true nature i dont want anything to do with them.
But my feels and dick tell me otherwise. I keep feeling that feel of no gf. How do i get passed this? Meditation?
Please respond.
EX_Machinama
What does /MGTOW/ think of the new movie Ex Machinama.To me it's a movie meant to discourage men of dating robotic women. It's almost like a PSA to downright discourage men from dating something that doesn't require resources and is willing to get laid and any moment.
>Or maybe it's a message that if women had AI, women would then become cannibalistic and downright insane.
men aren't the ones who are the losers...
you know what? now that I think about it, it’s funny.a few years ago, when I myself was still a NEET virgin loser, I thought those guys who buy those faggy anime hug pillows were the most pathetic losers to ever exist. “these guys must be real miserable” I thought.
then I started seeing what happens to guys who actually have girlfriends. false rape accusations because she’s a whore that slept with tyrone, false domestic violence accusations because she feasts on endless drama, virgin guys who had to wait until they were 30 just to get laid only to find that their precious cupcake gave them an incurable STD, cuckolding, men who have their lives and reputations ruined when a woman tells his entire social circle some lie about how “he’s creepy/stalker/rapist/pedo” which no one ever seems willing to give the man the benefit of the doubt. married guys who get frivorced, have their children legally kidnapped from them, forced away by the threat of government violence, until they take their own life because they don’t see any other way to end their suffering.
and I realize those guys with hug pillows don’t have to deal with any of that.
Good vacation spots
So, I am thinking of travel, seeing the world and enjoying this great green planet that God(or nature if you will) gave us. However I am a complete noob at this. ITT, I would like to know more about good tourism spots, tips for not having your vacation ruined etc. Information like how easy it is for English speaking tourists in that location(without guides and if with guides if they are easily available). Information about whether a particular location is expensive or reasonable from a middle class perspective. And anything else interesting or useful.MGTOW related because ever since I became MGTOW, I have more money and more time on my hands to do the things that I love. I love to travel to see the world. This could be a General Tourism thread
Pic related is of Palawan an Island near Philippines. Never been there but would like to go there one day
Men discusing as Women
I highly suggest us men should get female reproductive systems and become hermaphodites by surgery. This sounds by all means unnessecary and even malicious to what it really means to be MGTOW. But it sounds rewarding, you can trick other women into thinking your a girl and then you can get your catch. It's much better than being a normal man and getting a girl unfooled and being tricked into many awful things.
If this becomes a movement, then maybe women will start excepting masculinity. Women have a tendancy to like other women in large numbers, simply for safety purposes and general trust.
The only issue is badly done surgery and the need to loose weight and strength to keep the cloak on.
>Discuss
>Photo Related: It's the end product. Looks like a jew chick but be reminded that one has to go a long length to overcome masculinity.
As for menstration, you will not bleed because you were born a man. The ussy is jsut going to deliver fertilized cells. As for male pregnacy this cannot be garunteed. But I'm sure your gf will probably and hopefully be the one pregg'd.
the 8chan board is so much better than the forums
amusing mgtow/men's issues/twats gonna twat videos/webms/mp4s
Where are you guys coming from?
This board exists since November I think and a few days ago we only had 7 active users and now we aready have 31 active users according to the 8chan index. This is a increase of about 300% in only a few days. I also noticed there are more postings per day than we had in the beginning.Has anything happened over the last few days or is this just coincidence? Google search trends also reveals a parabolic increase of searches for the term MGTOW
Sandjew tries to divide MGTOW
I'm not posting Sandcuck's original video, although if you need its posted at the link. This video is RBK's response to Sandcuck.This is why I like RBK. He for the most part does not try to redefine MGTOW like various other faggots are doing in different directions
MGTOW isnt a lvl system
MGTOW seems like some of you cucks think theres levels, im betting most found out about MGTOW thru sandman. MGTOW is an ascension from beta-alpha, PUA, pussy chaser. what you end up doing is setting up your life to your liking.https://youtu.be/VdEjMhRhoAw
discuss vet MGTOW here
A story, a fable, a question.
OK. I've got a story to vent, a fable to tell and a question to make. This is long but bare with me, please.I went MGTOW in 2012, when my then girlfriend dumped me because she "didn't like what I was becoming". This was the way she had to say: "I don't have the emotional depth or interest to support you while your father is dying". Yep, my father was in the last stage of lung cancer and she didn't want anything to do with me nor my pain. She dumped me 4 months before my father died.
So, afterwards, I decided to spend some time alone. No women for me in a while, I thought. I decided I would do what I wanted to do (funny, how the death of someone close to you, makes you get your ass into gear)and I would do it alone. At that time I didn't knew about MGTOW, a friend of mine, who is into the PUA scene, told me about it after he saw how I was living. When he explained the whole MGTOW ideology/practice, it ringed true with me. I was adamant on walking this path.
And I kept doing what I wanted and how I wanted. Fuck it, I even quit my job and started writing full time. Why? Because I wanted and I had realized that life is to short to be doing something else than what you want.
Then came 2014 and the novel I spent 2 years writing, hit it big (I'm not american, and english is not my first language. Don't even bother asking…)My novel exploded over night thanks to a contest. I went to sleep as a NEET a monday night and woke up a full fledged writer on tuesday morning.
The 8 months since that day have been surreal. I've given interviews in national media, I've got a 7 year exclusive contract with a huge publishing house, I'm invited to conventions and shit like that. Surreal all the way trough. But here is where things go a little sour. First let me tell you some things I've learned in the way.
faggotry
>be me 19>have gf and it's good
>get her pregnant
>she doesn't tell me that i got her pregnant
>gets an abortion without consulting with me first
>when i confront her she gives me the "muh body not urs"
22 now and i haven't been in a relationship with a womyn since. Decide to be MGTOW. However recently I've begun fucking around with a bro of mine. I wouldn't call it a relationship but I'm wondering; has anyone else tried being a faggot? How did it turn out? Is a relationship with another male just as poisonous as a relationship with female? Is MGTOW against all relationships, heterosexual and homosexual alike?
MRM
Why I don't think the Men's rights Movement will achieve much.Basically it boils down to the fact that most men who are MRAs are working men. They lack the entitlement that is required for these kinds of movements to succeed. I will elaborate on this further down, but first let me make clear where I am coming from
I am not an MRM basher, I am a skeptic. While being an MGTOW myself, I would not a hesitate to sign a petition here or there to advance their cause but that is as far as I will go to help my MRA brothers.
Now onto the explanation of why the die is loaded against them. Successful working men by nature are not conditioned to beg/ask for anything. Due the value system that probably caused them to end up being successful working men in the first place, they are conditioned to work to achieve whatever they want. They are not conditioned to beg, plead or demand anything simply by virtue of their existence. This goes against their very nature Unfortunately however, the identity groups that are successful in demanding and getting 'rights' such as for example, the feminists, are experts at this sort of thing. This business of demanding rights simply for existing is completely in line with the feminist nature. This is why feminists tend to be successful in extracting more and more 'rights' in their favor at the expense of the masculine gender while MRAs face an uphill task.
The other facts such as 'society is gynocentric' are also true. However, the nature of the working man as outlined above, I believe, is the main reason why Men as a gender will lack the motivation required to make much change.
MGTOW threads on /pol/
I don't think it's worth pushing MGTOW on /pol/.Going MGTOW is a choice men have to make by themselves. They mustn't be convinced by external forces to walk this path.
Everyone has to see the poisonous nature of females for himself, and take the logical conclusion.
I'm not accusing anyone of you of or for making these threads, I'd just like to remind you how you became MGTOW yourselves.
Also, /pol/ is full of christian nutjobs and ultra conservatives who want you to fuck 500 women daily without a condom for maximum babies.
Need Help
So. I need some help.
>Be in a relationship 4 years
>Everything seems fine
>We're a conservative, supposedly right wing family
>Came home yesterday
>Found Wife in bed with her 'close friend who is totally platonic'
>Grabbed my laptop, hardrive, good jacket
>Head to brothers
>Am typing this from there
So…What do?
Sandman is Gay
Guess what, Sandman is a faggot. We need another reasonable person to represent MGTOW other than Sargon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIzKOvh3C1M
Women joke about penis removal on upcoming tv
So this Thursday on abc television an episode of the show Grey's Anatomy will air in which the female doctors all ridicule and make fun of a man who gets his penis cut off by his wife.My question is: What are we as mgtow/mra community going to do about this?
If this was the reverse situation a few things would happen.
1. Women everywhere would be outraged and riot, bitch, and moan.
2. The episode would never air
3. The episode would be banned
4. The tv station would probably be fined.
If women can rally together and persecute men for crimes they have not committed, then surely a few of us can rally together to fight for equality and respect. Or maybe I am mistaken and we all do nothing?
What will you do?
MGTOW Why you can't find a good man
The content in this video is not directed at us but its directed at the women but the man is just bang on target. He tells it like it is.
Gender Equality
What is really gender equality?>inb4 feminism
virtual sex and synthetic wombs
Hey MGTOW, just found this board.So, how do you think things will change, after we perfected virtual sex, and invented synthetic wombs?
Confoosed
MGTOW looks like a hilarious troll seed just waiting to sprout.Most women aren't full blown SJW or feminist. "Men going their own way" sounds really gay to me lol. I've been going my own way my whole life. I reject social pressures. I grow my facial hair in a way that is probably off putting for the people around me(wolverine). To me, this is a way to filter out the shallow people from the worthy mates.
Do you guys even want women? Like would you accept women "followers"?
This whole thing sounds like a parody of feminism. Am I not in on the joke?
Donating sperm
Does donating sperm make you not MGTOW? Is it a bad idea? I heard someone got roped into child support once after a woman used his sperm from a bank.
Are you considered an MGOTW if you reject relationships, dating, and climbing the corporate ladder in favor of working just enough to afford vidya and a visit to a whore a couple times a year?
Hello MGTOWs,
I am currently experiencing some issues with consuming media after beeing redpilled. It is nearly impossible for me to enjoy multimedia anymore.
Whenever I play a video game or watch anime or a movie I often detect the gynocentrism and shaming tactics that are used in it and feel disgusted.
Do you experience the same problems? What are some good MGTOW-approved movies, anime and video games?
You are not Kawaii, Bitch!
It is so like a 3DPD entitled feminist to refer to THEMSELVES as a waifu.>Dudes leave 3DPD's behind in favor of the perfection of cute anime girls
>She's standing there waving her arms "wait come back guys, look I can be a waifu too, give me that attention!"
The future of MGTOW
Some questions regarding the future of MGTOW.How do you deal with stupid MGTOW?
The movement is getting more and more popular. Like with anything
else, this means that the average intelligence of the members is
getting lower and lower as more people join. Being the edgemaster
that I am, on one hand I don't want my sekkrit club to be
infiltrated. On the other hand, more MGTOWs mean more men to develop
niche markets to my niche interests.
Will you be still calling yourself a MGTOW when it becomes
commodified? Because I'm telling you that the age of MGTOW T-shirts
and merchandise is coming. How can we stop this reactionary movement
from becoming yet another thing selling out to big business and big
government?
For now, the resistence is still quite strong against married
men. But will this stay the same in the future?
tl;dr how can we save MGTOW being subverted by the
Jews/Illuminati/Elits/Powers that be/Women/Etc.
MGTOW Ressurection Thread
I have organized a small thread grouping to repopulate mgtow and to get it into the 10 most popular threads. To preserve the ideology of MGTOW. I have came around other boards and have provided information of MGTOWs existance. Here is the threads posted.>>1045372 >>>/pol/
>>57315 >>>/cuteboys/
>>13455 >>>/christian/
>>281059 >>>/gamergate/
How many of you here are waifuists?