Do you vote in elections /midpol/? Is there any party you typically vote for? Who are some people you've voted for in the past? If not, what are your reasons for not voting?

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Gutless Flip-flopper 12/15/14 (Mon) 19:43:27 No.55

Do you vote in elections /midpol/? Is there any party you typically vote for? Who are some people you've voted for in the past? If not, what are your reasons for not voting?

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/15/14 (Mon) 20:20:07 No.56

Ever since maybe 2004, we've gone through a whole bunch of really shitty elections. By the time I was old enough to vote, I simply didn't want to vote because no matter who won, we all lost. Obama vs Romney might just have been the shittiest election so far, if not George Bush vs flip-flopping Kerry.

I was going to change that this midterm, but I was informed too late, and didn't get to look up different candidates from different parties other than R and D. Either way, if Hilary becomes the D candidate for 2016 I am going to vote against her for sure. It's not that I don't want a woman for president, it's because not only has she been shit and corrupt at her current job, but she seems to possibly be in cahoots with the corrupt side of social justice.

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/22/14 (Mon) 20:45:17 No.82

No, too stressful

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/27/14 (Sat) 13:14:28 No.88

Bother parties are the same corporate owned. I see no point in voting. They should dismantle the two party system and people should have more choices

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/27/14 (Sat) 13:57:28 No.90

>>88
Very true. Im sick of everyone making a big fucking deal about voting for whoever is going to somehow fuck us over less.

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/27/14 (Sat) 15:01:53 No.91

>>90
Neither of the parties are ready to deal with outsourcing. Right now this is the main reason why the middle class is bleeding. 2008, John Edwards made some noise about outsourcing then he got BTFO due to the scandal. I haven't seen a single major politician wanting to make this an issue.

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/27/14 (Sat) 15:12:36 No.92

>>91
Citizens United. Coprorations now own governments. They don't care about the middle class anymore.

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/27/14 (Sat) 15:25:30 No.93

>>92
There is a little bit of the other side of the problem to this also because US companies can't compete with the slave wages which Chinese companies offer to their workers

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/28/14 (Sun) 12:15:51 No.105

>>93
The other thing is that free trade is more in one direction. USA has a trade deficit with China. We keep buying their cheap stuff at the expense of our manufacturers but they don't buy our stuff as much

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/28/14 (Sun) 13:01:32 No.106

Elections are a waste of time. They don't work for us. They just work for these special interests. We ceased to be an actual democracy a long time ago

Gutless Flip-flopper 12/28/14 (Sun) 16:01:42 No.107

>>93
This whole business of free trade and WTO was set in motion by the corporates. The main reason for WTO is corporate profits not trade. The working class keeps losing because there really isn't trade going. What is going is jobs are being shipped to other countries in the name of world trade. If it was actually about trade, then Americans would have actually benefited due to some jobs being created here for exports. This is not he case. All the jobs are being created elsewhere. The only Americans who gain from this are corporate fat cats

Gutless Flip-flopper 01/01/15 (Thu) 13:39:11 No.145

We use a system here called "Mixed Member Proportional"

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT0I-sdoSXU

It means we get two votes. One for the party representative for the residential area we live in, and another for the party we want in Government.

Generally, I vote pretty left wing. I voted for the Green Party representative, and gave the Green Party my party vote.

Hwoever, New Zealand is generally run by two centrist parties:

National Party
Centre Right
Currently in its 3rd 3-year term in Government, elected in September last year.

Labour party
Centre Left
Last ran for 3 3-year terms. Was voted out back in 2008.

Usually there is some form of coalition between parties in Government. I generally support the Labour party, if I have to pick between National and Labour.

Gutless Flip-flopper 01/01/15 (Thu) 13:40:51 No.146

>>145
I also want to point out that because they are both centre parties, there is a group of centre swing voters that can vote for either depending on how favourable they're looking.

Anonymous 06/30/15 (Tue) 23:27:55 No.387

Yes. Here in germany, if you don't vote at all, your vote gets broken down onto the parties. The higher the percentage of votes a partie has, the higher the percentage of which parts of my vote go to them.

It basicly means that if I don't vote at all, the two biggest parties will get my vote, so I vote for a small satire party, which is basicly called "The PARTY".

Anonymous 07/27/15 (Mon) 17:33:46 No.408

>>387

I usually vote for underdog parties too, like the pirate party f.e.. The big parties have all let me down, especially the party that claims to be centrally oriented, but acts more leftwing than the typical leftwing parties on issues that are important to me.

Sometimes I wish not voting meant they would just change less. I feel more and more like things are pretty good now, and that they should stop tampering with the system for a while, because they're more likely to fuck it up than to improve it.

Anonymous 09/11/15 (Fri) 00:17:38 No.540

Voting is a fools game.

Anonymous 09/20/15 (Sun) 01:51:42 No.550

It seems like that at the very least, the two party system keeps flavor of the month parties from getting power. There really needs to be some sort of candidate willing to shake things up in a positive way though.

Anonymous 09/21/15 (Mon) 20:34:09 No.551

>>550

in that case trump is the joker candidate you wish for

Anonymous 10/08/15 (Thu) 06:55:25 No.555

No, I don't see a point. Same retardation, different face, it's a waste of time that I could be spending on doing something that actually matters or at least that I enjoy

Anonymous 10/31/15 (Sat) 17:54:54 No.629

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>>55

Voting is just another tool used by authoritarians to cloak and justify their power as they can no longer rely on divine right since we burst that bubble, so they'll base their "right" to power on ad populum fallacies instead. Letting us vote is nothing but an empty gesture to give us the semblance of control when really the only options are the ones approved by the state and media. It's insane and defeatist to keep doing the same thing, voting over and over just because everyone else does, and expecting different results. It is no measure of good health to conform to an ill society. Democracy is tyranny by majority. By voting you are voting yes for the system, you are going out of your way to scribble a check on a piece of paper that says "I have faith in this system". By continuously choosing the lesser of two evils, picking option poop over option doodoo, you are feeding the oppressive troll that is this system. If voting could truly change the system it would be illegal.

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