So the US is now deploying fifty special ops members to Syria to act in an advise and assist role for the rebels. Oddly enough I'm glad we're getting more involved directly with Syria. The entire region is essentially what happens when the international co

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Anonymous 10/30/15 (Fri) 20:43:03 No.621

So the US is now deploying fifty special ops members to Syria to act in an advise and assist role for the rebels. Oddly enough I'm glad we're getting more involved directly with Syria. The entire region is essentially what happens when the international community kicks the can down the road and allows people who have special interests in the region to push the envelope.

Russia has been the Assad regime's arms seller for many years. For them this whole thing is basically big business. The longer the war continues the more money and influence they gain. The people of the US are so war weary when a situation which might actually require international military intervention arose we decided to just try to ignore it until it went away.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have fucked up our perception of military force. We have such an aversion to using it but our entire nation is geared towards maintaining the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned against.

So here we are proxy wars once again and another terrorist group we've essentially founded and armed. If we'd just tell Israel to go fuck themselves and remain allies with Saudi Arabia things would be so much simpler.

I don't like war, I don't like that we spend half of our budget on military upkeep and development, but we're constantly playing catch up to shitty policy decisions made over the last century.

So /midpol/, I know I've been ranting but I'd like to get your opinion on this: what exactly are we fucking doing in Syria? What should we be doing? How in the fuck do we keep Putin from resurrecting the USSR?

Anonymous 11/03/15 (Tue) 02:56:14 No.647

Putin is going to need a lot more than his own lifetime to resurrect the USSR. Sure, he's fighting in Ukraine, and trying to prop up one of his one, lone buddy in the middle east, but Russia has simply fallen too far behind economically. While I can't guarantee it won't reemerge, I think the odds are low enough of it happening in our lifetimes that "keep pummeling their economy and otherwise do nothing" is the most appropriate response.

Syria is a tougher one. Bombing isn't working. Recent history has proven that we can't invade unless we want to just stay there forever. We can't do nothing, because these guys are some royal class-a assholes.

Arm the kurds, rally international support, and send in a handful of advisors are really all we CAN do. It's otherwise just a really really shitty situation with no solutions.

Anonymous 11/03/15 (Tue) 02:58:52 No.648

The biggest part of the problem with ISIS I think, is that even if we kill ALL of them, every single motherfucker, the next generation will just rise to avenge them.

But how do you beat an enemy without killing him? Get somebody else to kill him maybe? Russia, perhaps? I'm not sure if that would even work.

Anonymous 01/25/16 (Mon) 02:04:50 No.737

>>647

If the Kurds are armed, what would prevent them from trying to be the dominant force in the region once their enemy is defeated? The cycle will continue.

>>648

This isn't a militaristic problem anymore, it can't be solved by military means. It's an ideological one.

What is the driving force behind the destabilization of the Middle East? Islam.

The second largest factor? The international community and Israel promoting further conflict.

How was religious doctrine changed in the past? Complete and utter destruction of either people, country, culture, religion, or all of the above.

We've tried destroying people and country, but that hasn't worked, it just fanned the fire. Plus it doesn't help that we support some countries in the region that still function based on religion (Saudi Arabia).