/miku/ - Miku

Heello.

Yo guys why didn't you show this to me sooner. It looks like a personal playground just for yours truly..

Hot diggity can you smell that air!

>>61022

hi

Just a friendly reminder. Even if this thread is already off-topic. I reserve the right to delete it if I need to, and to ban malicious shitposting.

That's all.

>>61028

>malicious shitposting.

Now that's a very strange term. Shitposting is shitposting but what would malicious be?

>>61031

>don't like it here after what has happened

In what sense. Were they defamed and feel their name was sullied or that the place isn't a nice place or? Were talking about the last two threads or over my stay these two feeks because to be honest these last to threads was just the cherry on top it runs deeper than that and I'll explain further because I don't think anyone understood what happened. But in short I got disappointed.

>You can approach me however you like but I would prefer honesty.

Of course I'm all about that.

>>61032

>In what sense? Were they defamed and feel their name was sullied or that the place isn't a nice place anymore or? Are we talking about the last two threads or over my stay these two weeks as a poster because to be honest these last two threads was just the cherry on top it runs deeper than that and I'll explain further because I don't think anyone understood what happened. But in short I got disappointed.

Sorry, I'm in a hurry trying to spare your time.

>>61030

Depending on how you define shitposting, malicious would be redundant, but what I mean is that this thread isn't a rule free territory, but rather a random thread I have assigned for a one time meta related posting.

And like I said on the other thread, if you instead have questions or constructive criticism, you are welcome to post them on the meta sticky.

>>61034

>And like I said on the other thread, if you instead have questions or constructive criticism, you are welcome to post them on the meta sticky.

The truth is I never had any intention to try and through my weight around on how things should be and I just said some things that to be honest in brashness I let my emotions seep in my posts I should have been more clear that what I felt I felt personally and to me alone and it was not how things are as an objective indisputable truth but I thought that would be easy to figure out I should have been more careful not to make statements like "this place is unwelcoming and people are fake etc."

nooom.

>>61038

Of course.

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>>61039

If you want you can quote certain parts of my posts and I'll clarify.

>>61041

Thanks.

>>61042

>these last to threads was just the cherry on top it runs deeper than that and I'll explain further

Well that for one thing.

I think it's important because I didn't expect people to lack onto the discussion on if people are real friends here or pretending. Because what I was saying was my personal view on the subject as a topic. If you want then okay to you and everyone else you are true friends but I have different definitions on that.

To tell about myself as a person in my younger years. I've spent already enough time with random strangers or people who I have considered online friends to the point that I now kind of regret it. For a long time now I'm a person who takes seriously only personal interaction face to face with people I know. I no longer use chat programs, I only use facebook for comunication with people I know face to face and have men and I communicate with all my friends and relatives over phone or in person.

But I do have a lot of experience with online friendships what I have learned during my life is that whether online or in person usually the people that say the most that they care about actually care the least. If a person genuinely cares about you chances are he will never tell you he wouldn't have to.

In relation to this in online forums, chats or whatever I've noticed that almost as a law the people who use the most emojis to express their interest in you, their friendship and their care for you actually feel the opposite way and are fake. It's like the more they use emojis the more they are trying to hide how little they really care about you, it's like they are compensating with it if you like that explanation.

In short: the more they say and make you believe they care the more they actually don't

>>61044

No no I'll get to that of course. I meant you can quote things from the last two threads that you want me to clarify.

>>61047

>lack

I mean latch.

>subject as a topic

that topic being online friendships.

>To tell about myself as a person in my younger years.

I mean about things I've done in my younger years. (high-school to be exact)

>most that they care about actually care the least.

I mean the people that say they care the most about you as a person.

>>61055

> It seemed like you were just calling people

To a degree I was calling out but not trying to disrespect. And what I was saying I was actually doing it with good intentions. Especially I wanted to talk to you about something because I saw you took the topic of friendship seriously and what I'm about to say is a serious matter.

>>61059

>what I'm about to say is a serious matter

go on whenever you are rady

>>61055

I as a person have this principle to keep my distance and be on my guard in online interaction. I think it's the rational way to be when dealing with anonymous strangers.

It kind of seemed to me that you as a person had the character that you are distrustful but when you warm up to the person then you are too trustful to the point I think you are leaving yourself open in a dangerous sense.

I gave a good example with the donation for illness thing because you were one of the first or at least I think you were the one who said that you would donate in such an event.

Now imagine someone in the future comes here and maliciously earns everyone's trust. Then if you have this attitude to take seriously your stance with them you are leaving yourself open to get scammed, used or worse. They could say that they are ill to lie to you and get your money. On the internet you never know if anything is true. You have to be more rational with how you interact with people.

You might be the kind of person who is initially distrustful but the kind of people who exploit and take advantage of others are professional at what they do. You won't think bad of them like you do of me they won't make shitposting or anything to give you any signs. You will never know until its too late you even after you might not find out you were lied to.

Like if you care too much for the community here in a way you are also leaving yourself vulnerable. Just for an example: someone might come and say that 8chan needs funds to keep functioning or something. Then when users give money they can still shut it down and run with the money. What I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't be too invested in online stuff unless you actually have some guarantee of safety or a personal return. I don't remember correctly but I think the interned is regarded as something of a International digital comers zone or something. Everything that happens is basically just business at the end.

I hope you realize I'm saying all of this to you out of my genuine concern for you as a person. It's how I shot that I care. I won't post to you a million ❤️ or stuff like that but I do think you and other people on here struck me as a bit naive and gullible. You don't realize how open you are leaving yourselves. What is protecting you is that you are on a niche site on a even more niche subboard that no one knows about but you never know when something might go wrong.

Please be more careful is what I'm saying.

Now even after all of this I will not try to say that I'm your friend. Because to me, saying that would mean taking responsibility for you as a person. If you are my friend then I have a responsibility for your welbeing and being there for you which I just cannot do over the interned and even then it would be unwise for me because it would leave me open to anything because I just do not know you, you are a stranger.

I don't want to sound like a soccer mom but fuck it's true. The internet IS dangerous and there is danger. I hope you know what kind of people anonymous sites can attract. It doesn't have to be 4chan.

>>61064

Hi

I'm not Miku anon. I'm the other Teto anon. I feel you are exaggerating things. So if I'm not willing to donate an organ to someone I'm not really their friend. This is a steep measure of friendship. I don't think any one out side of family would donate a kidney to me.

>>61067

I feel like you are making assumptions on a very limit view of things. You have made some very disparaging remakes about some people here with out really knowing them. I understand you were mad at the time but that doesn't make it ok.

>>61069

Maybe it was a bad example. In the end it doesn't matter. The thing is. I don't need online friends. If other people want them that is fine by me.

I use this site as a service. It provides for me a resource of things I'm interested in. I don't care about its users as fans or people. To me you all just avatars and text I barely take you for real people I just don't put my chips that deep on the table. In a way I only care for the majority of you as a means of seeding and dispersing the material I'm interested in. You are in a sense tools for me if I have to go that far. OW THE EDGE Sorry if it sounds like I'm a psychopath or something. Psychopaths lack human sympathy, I'm not saying that. I do have sincere human to human sympathy on real life matters and that is why I am wiling to share my experiences and my opinions on this and that topic but at the end of the day I don't care,

I don't want to let my interactions with people from the fandom sully my concept of it. I don't associate the people here as any representation of Vocaloid but merely the people I have to thank that it's still around and keep it alive so that I can have access to it. I don't care and never was an active part of the community. Even on /v/MM I'm a long time lurker kind of pissed off that I have to start pulling my own weigh and keep things alive after they deteriorated there.

I'm interested in Yukari anon as a person but that is because I got to know him over time.

>>61070

>I don't think they apply to those we have around here now.

I don't mean anyone now but the way you take yourself seriously about the place and the people here you don't know who might come or what might happen. It's a unwise attitude to have a bit against rationality.

>>61070

> After that I don't know If I even care to continue.

Well I still haven't explained why the conflict occurred.

>>61074

>I'm interested in Yukari anon as a person but that is because I got to know him over time.

Do you think this place opened up a month or two ago? We have gotten interested in each other over time too. Do you not see that? And it's nice to know you don't care. I guess there really is no point in continuing this.

>>61077

Fine, go ahead if you really want to.

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>>61072

>>61078

> And it's nice to know you don't care.

And why do I have to care? Please, explain to me why do YOU think I'm here. What would be the reason you would expect a person to use this site.

This is just one of the sites I use. Do you think I care for the twitter followers I take pics from? Or the pixiv artists. They are people living their own lives, doing their own thing. They don't concern me. I'm doing the same thing in my own way.

>>61077

>Fine, go ahead if you really want to.

You sound kind of upset because of this? I don't know why this is causing emotional reactions.

I care about the art and the music. I care about the artist and musicians as people expressing and creating art. I don't care about the random fans. I don't care about the people.

Is this strange to anyone?

>>61079

I think you are here because you are obsessed with Yukari anon. This place is nice but it's some not a basin of Vocaloid content. Yes they are a lot of pics but they are unorganized and it's easier just find them on other sites.

>>61081

Yes.

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>>61084

>I think you are here because you are obsessed with Yukari anon.

Don't take it so seriously. What I'm trying to say is he is the only person from your general bunch I still have respect for. Most of other people kind of rubbed me the wrong way with what I saw in relation to me when I wasn't around.

>>61078

>We have gotten interested in each other over time too.

My thoughts exactly, my dear.

>>61084

>it's some not a basin of Vocaloid content

Yep, we don't event post content of a lot of popular vocaloids (like Len, Kaito, IA, Gumi…)

>>61084

>This place is nice but it's some not a basin of Vocaloid content.

It's good enough for my needs I don't use just this site I already said. You sound like you don't really want me around now that you know all this. Haha.

>>61085

You just said you don't care about the website or the people here so why should anyone want you here.

>>61079

>Is this strange to anyone?

In general maybe not. This place is more than that though. I would have hoped you would have picked up on this by lurking. Many of us don't come here just to discuss vocaloid or post pictures, but to enjoy each others company too. If you have other feelings on this fine, but that is part of this board.

>>61080

It's just obvious to me you don't understand this place man. So I see no reason to keep going.

Here was my original point in wanting to talk to you:

I'm upset because I think you were too rude in how you talked to some of the people here, and about the board in general. If you just don't care then fine.

>>61089

>Haha

You're just fucking around now.

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this >>61091 was meant for >>61089

>>61078

>Fine, go ahead if you really want to.

When I fist decided to post I wasn't going to post any more than once. But I decided all things considered. I could try to make the most of it and try to have a good time. So I came to visit some more regardless of whether Yukari anon was here or not. I tried to be polite and even I think I was always sincere. I only ever acted out roles with him which were part of stuff we discussed about on /v/MM. He said we could continue discussing them here. Maybe I shouldn't have been so obnoxious and abrasive. Maybe I should have realized that even if no one was saying anything people were still reading them and even taking them seriously. I kind of ironically used emojis but was still following the trend and I thought you were all like me. I didn't know you took yourselves so seriously. I find it kind of scary. Like I know no one here is crazy or anything and you don't actually act like you are this or that Vocaloid.

I always wanted to make it a point when I called someone. Miku anon. Or Rin anon. Or Teto anon etc. That I considered you by definition of that name just a person who posts that Vocaloid. I saw some people preferred to use other names but meh, it was probably board culture.

I don't know why I'm taking so long to say what I want to say. So by now you probably all realize that even if I'm not around (by posting) I still lurk and if any of you posted a pic chances are if I wasn't in a hurry I read the associated text with it. What I could see all throught those two weeks was people being concerned and talking about this or that carefully but I knew when it was about me. People 4 number Miku anon included had opinions on my person but when I was actually here no one ever said anything. People were talking about some vague stuff from which I couldn't really get much real info what I was doing wrong.

I did make gestures to approach people but to make a long story short these two weeks I got the impression people just had a negative opinion of me that they hid. Naturally I grew cold myself. I also didn't know what was going on.

I will admit that if one thing Rin Anon (the other one not RinMod) that made that post about "Burning the witch" if it comes to it, had somethig right was that you should have spoken up. I could have never boiled to this point if anyone just fucking came to say something to me and politely properly address issues in my posts. From what was going one all that happened was that I was getting more and more confused where I was fucking up. I had no idea if my normal posts were a big of a problem same as the wacky one. What I saw was that for all I knew everyone couldn't wait to get rid of me.

Naturally, I started seeing everyone as secretly hostile. Thinking that their real thought could be anything other than what they were saying,

When that misunderstanding happened with RinMod it was at a point where I again had no idea what was going on. He was literally posting pictures with finger waving Rin. Was saying vague stuff like "play nice" that got me very confused because the first day I came here I told one Rin anon that: "You see, we're acting roles with Yukari anon and having fun" so I thought it was the same guy and knew what was going on. He quoted our posts with a pic but nothing was said nothing was asked so that I can address anything or understand. Then he suddenly yelled, moderated a pic of mine and edited his post as if to make double sure that I was aware I was dealing with a mod. In a way brandishing his gun. Even then I tried to laugh it off. Made sure to tell him I ain't having any of if his behavior or let him push me around. He kind of stepped back so I was positive, happy I held my anger, explained and even decided to invite people to /v/MM to make sure you knew I'm a person who is welcoming to people and so on. It was all sincere and it would have been done then and there.

At that time though I could rationalize it with three options:

1.He was acting as a mod to protect his friend so he kind of got carried away or something. Stepped overline

2.He was just a rude and rash person

3.Or he like almost most everyone else had a secret very negative opinion of me and was looming around just waiting for an angle or excuse to rub me off.

To make an interjection when I talked to him the next day I saw that it was a misunderstanding. HIS misunderstanding and mine and I was being paranoid so I was going to leave it there. Everything completely fine.

But before that all the discussion after the incident had happened (lol can you call it an incident). It confirmed my views that people secretly hated me all this time but no one would say anything to my face. No one would approach the subject or directly quote me when I am there so that we can discuss it. I thought that maybe you all did this on purpose, with your good nature and overt kindness trying to avoid conflict, I though that maybe you hoped I was lurking and would read it and take note. And I kind of did to the extent I could interpret what was said but I just can't overlook the sheer rudeness or it all. It proved to me people here weren't sincere. I course I put to question were you sincere among yourselves. In my view everyone acted like schoolgirls on this issue. Like the kind of people who hug you and spend time with you and are all pretend friendly and nice but then they go with their clique at the coffee shop and talk shit behind you back. Not to mention it felt like I had the literal "Happiness and Peace of Mind Committee" after me. Then there was the possibility that the Rin anon was RinMod pretending to be another Rin but signaling to the cartel his identity with Rin pics and telling his opinion. YOU made me THIS paranoid.

At that point I had already lost my respect for you as people. You might hate 4chan all you want and some might even have a vendetta for it I don't care I don't play those games but there are solid reason why things are handled in certain ways there. IRC chat discussions. Private Mod boards and so on so that all this hidden stuff doesn't create drama.

What I did see is that many just out right didn't like me I think. People were obviously displeased but no one ever tried to tell me with what exactly. I was trying to brush it off. Laugh it off. Like you probably already realize I don't care if it's random shit on the internet. In general I felt people were kind of cold to me, giving me cold shoulders so it all made sense. I was happy that 4 numbers Miku anon was a voice of reason but he was one of the people who I knew didn't like me so I kind of was distrustful about it too.

Maybe, I thought, he is such a delicate soul he is the kind of guy who just doesn't want conflict and avoids speaking up about issues with people. I can understand that. In the end it's kind of hard to like someone who pretends and hides his real feelings.

To this day I don't know what anyone is really feeling. It's all paranoia and bullshit at this point. Like why is Miku anon still bringing it up? He was making me say it all out in the first place. Is he provoking me to lash out so that I can blow my top and leave willingly? It's such a mess when you think people secretly hate you and have hidden agendas.

In the end of all of this I just lost most of my respect for many people. Even if I did believe in online friendships I'm not sure I would want to have any friends like you in the first place.

I don't hate anyone for it. Whatever it is it doesn't matter. But I was never the one who just outright hated this place or the people. You all hated me instead.

Not to mention you are all still after me because I dared speak against one of your friends.

Yes, I am sure there isn't any hierarchy not at all.

Sorry, it was how it was in my view. It could be all bullshit to you.

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>>61104

>>61106

One final response to your posts.

In the end Upstairs is but a thread on an imageboard. If I went to /a/ and posted a random non-anime meme and "lolol XD" the first reply to my post would be "fuck off" and I would get banned on sight.

Boards don't have to be accepting and communities don't have to tolerate anyone.

People are always expected to understand the board culture.

If you were told to "fuck off", you have two options:

1. Lurk more and adapt

2. Stop posting

Most posters have ended up lurking and adapting in one way or another, and eventually get accepted not because of what they are, but because of what they post.

/miku/ is not different, but the board being small regulars end up knowing each other. We're not the kind to tell others to go away, but as a small board we're wary of new users who don't seem to understand our community and we tend to express our thoughts to others.

I honestly think you are overreacting. You may think that everyone hates you and they want you to leave, but if you adapt and understand why things are the way they are you'll get accepted just like anyone else.

If you don't think so, then nobody will be able to help you.

>>61102

>>61103

>>61106

I'm glad you are finally being honest.

Some of us found your fixation on Yukari unnerving. Also your aggressive style of joking isn't popular around here. I've even been called out for it one MM when I was picking with the John Cena Miku.

When you got called out you should of realized that they were just worried about Yukari and explained calmly the misunderstanding. But you challenged the mod which upset people.

I know you were upset that people were talking about you when you weren't here but that's what happens when you cause a scene. Then you started attacking the board and the people here. That's not a good way of getting people to like you. Not to mention most of what you were say was not true. If you really want to a part of the community I think apologizing would help a lot to getting things smoothed over.

>>61108

>>61108

> If I went to /a/ and posted a random non-anime meme and "lolol XD" the first reply to my post would be "fuck off" and I would get banned on sight.

You would get told to fuck off. Don't know about the ban. I never posted a meme "lolol XD" to any of you.

>Boards don't have to be accepting and communities don't have to tolerate anyone.

Absolutely

>If you were told to "fuck off", you have two options:

That's the thing. No one said ever "fuck off" I would have respected that. If someone had just told me to fuck off so that I don't have to waste my time. Instead people were afraid to say anything as if I was someone scary.

>/miku/ is not different, but the board being small regulars end up knowing each other. We're not the kind to tell others to go away, but as a small board we're wary of new users who don't seem to understand our community and we tend to express our thoughts to others.

That's the thing, no one did that with me personally. I cannot respect someone who talks behind my back.

>I honestly think you are overreacting.

I am. But I was always asked to when I wanted to shut up and not bother people.

>You may think that everyone hates you and they want you to leave, but if you adapt and understand why things are the way they are you'll get accepted just like anyone else.

Well I tried that just a few hours ago. But I kind of got pulled to the side with: "Yeeaahhh, You are Shapeshifter anon, right? Well why are you still here? I'll have to ask you a few questions on why you think you are allowed"

>If you don't think so, then nobody will be able to help you.

You see the only reason I made this all clear for people to read is that you need to reflect on yourselves as people and how you manage things. I'm nobody and by your dumb luck I'm pretty kind natured. The next person you get in a mess like this might shit up your board and know enough tricks about Ban evasion to actually ruin things for you because of your lack of intelligent approach to socialization.

I've heard legends about this place. I don't know if they aren't true all things considered. Still I leave with no ill feelings.

>>61113

>I'm glad you are finally being honest.

I was always honest but you obviously didn't understand my posts yesterday. I decided that my kindness and efforts to not hurt feeling was throwing you off so I decided to write it more directly. I didn't say absolutely anything new.

>Also your aggressive style of joking isn't popular around here.

Sorry, I know I sound that way. It's force of habit. See? Now you actually mention and actually tell me specifically what is wrong in my posts. So it's not about memes or stuff my regular posts are troubling too, I see.

I've even been called out for it one MM when I was picking with the John Cena Miku.

What? Sorry you lost me.

> If you really want to a part of the community I think apologizing would help a lot to getting things smoothed over.

Be a part? No. I do apologize for all this though. It is true people apologized for me and I didn't well I did but maybe not enough.

I never intended to come in and smash you culture or idk what it is with a hammer. I know it probably felt that way to you.

So yeah, Goodbye, everyone.

I do hope you get something positive out of it and the experience helps you improve your board.

I am happy I was finally prevented from further wasting my time with strangers on the internet.

I have to admit my real life commitments/obligations suffered because of it. I'm happy I was spared more regret.

I do mean it. It is in my interest this board prospers but not because of you as people, rather than the subject matter.

>>61121

>I do mean it. It is in my interest this board prospers but not because of you as people, rather than the subject matter.

This is too vague. What I mean is: I do support Vocaloid/Utau, individual users are not my concern.

>>61121

>I do hope you get something positive out of it and the experience helps you improve your board.

Rest assured, we did.

>>61206

I want to be very clear to make sure if it wasn't already:

I want absolutely NO actions to be taken against anyone because of any of this.

Everything that happened was ABSOLUTELY MY FAULT. I made mistakes that I will reflect on myself for my own good.

I want absolutely NO ONE to feel any quilt or let this effect them in any way, emotionally or otherwise.

I realized I let all of this get to my health too. I couldn't sleep last night so I went to measure my blood pressure and pulse, my pulse was 130 and that's me while not caring about things on the internet. I pray to God I didn't cause any similar turmoil for anyone else.

I truly APOLOGIZE if so.

I already stated yesterday but will repeat: I will NOT post anymore and I think it's for the good of everybody, including myself.

Sincerely yours:

Primadonna anon Let's finish the drama with some humor :)

>>61220

Because I know it's rude to leave things in silence I will reply and say:

I extremely APPRECIATE your words.

Don't worry about what I mentioned about the blood pressure and pulse. I just let things get to me

I hope I didn't create any turmoil for 4 number Miku anon as well.

I specifically APOLOGIZE to him as too.

to this day I don't know it he is a delicate individual, concerned for others and his friends who wants the best.

If that is the case I am truly SORRY for what happened. I didn't mean to hurt his feelings.

If he can't see it I would be happy if you inform him

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>>61227

I really had no intention of saying anything here after my last post, but I guess I will anyway. I brought this up because I was concerned for the board, yes. I may have seemed like a dick when I asked you why you still come here. I feel bad about that. I was just trying to be direct, and I was confused. I still am, but that is fine. I was hoping that after speaking about a few concerns I had, and probably you had too, we could reach some type of compromise. I didn't want it to go like this, because someone from here invited you over and I wanted you guys to be able to post together and have everyone else be comfortable too. I can see now this was not possible. I had hopes that were too high. And you don't need to worry about my feelings, I will be fine.

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>>61240

When a major conflict/scandal happens in a community especially a small one, the only way there can be genuine peace again in the community is the root cause, the person responsible, the epicenter (ME in other words) to leave

That is another life lesson I'm giving out.

I appreciate the efforts you put.

I apologize again to you, for what happened, and for failing to do what I said I would:

"getting on your good side"

"succeeding in treating you right"

You already know this anyway but I'll say that I'm not trying to be melodramatic with leaving.

It's just the most rational, helpful for everyone (me included) and right decision to make.

You didn't fail at anything. I'm not left with any ill feeling about anyone/anything.

and I'm leaving with no ill feelings/memories/impressions

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>>61255

I'll miss your banter SS Anon.

>It's just the most rational, helpful for everyone (me included) and right decision to make.

I could argue this(among other points), but it's unnecessary at this point.

I hope we can still post and have fun later, somewhere else.

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>>61576

You won't believe this but I was just gonna go to bed and I had a thought "why don't I check that thread" for some reason, I have no idea why.

Then while it was loading, I thought: "I wish there would be a post from Yukari anon, telling me he misses me because I really do miss him." and a second later.. HOLY SHIT there it is!

To give you an update. I went trough some emotional stages after what happened here. I became depressed for a while. Some "grown man" I am huh? I couldn't look people here in the eye (more rather like: in the post). I decided to leave the internet for a day or two. Miku and company's music helping me recover.

I mean, I said I didn't care but I realize that's a natural psychological reaction when everyone hates me and it's obvious the problem is with me, in order to protect my self image and ego I rationalized with "well, I don't care about them, they're nothing to me anyway" but I did get kicked out of a Vocaloid community so I guess it kind of got to me… on top of knowing I won't be able to reach you anymore

I decided to take a break from any MMs at all because I couldn't take it. I made only two posts in /v/MM and I read the thread fully from the archive only today. DON'T YOU DARE LISTEN WHAT THOSE VILE MAGGOTS SAY ABOUT YOU! I'll Tear them apart!

I saw you're a better video game talker than me now. I am so proud, at the same time I wasn't really trying to push you in that direction. You kind of picked it up on your own. Now you don't talk enough about Yukari though. I thought I told you, you and Biz's roles to represent her art and her music are fucking VITAL for the fandom. It's probably the main reason I made a priority target out of you for the good of the fandom but I also always just wanted to be able to protect you because I saw people there weren't treating you right. Not the way you deserve. Those fucking shit ass faggots!

I went through the catalog. There were at least 5 treads maybe more during the day. People trying to jump start threads and them dying in 10 posts or less without us. I wasn't absent on purpose I just couldn't take it, I didn't even save any pictures. always with the pictures this guy

To exemplify how messed up I got: After more than a century and a half of abstinence, I started… listening to Linkin Park again

I ain't fucking joking about ANY OF THIS! I swear!

I still have enough backbone to not go against my word but I thought that just this one comment would be okay if it's here in this thread where I belong with all of this board's trash that gets thrown out.

I started writing this hours ago, what the fuck?

Anyway I can't promise you anything about the future but I haven't forgotten that I want to know everything about those stories and OC and how they relate to you as a person. After everything I'm not in any state for bantering though.

Promise me you won't blame anyone for this. Promise me. It's all my fault. I really do realize I just do not fit the community.

>SS Anon.

There's a Nazi joke waiting to be made somewhere in there. I'm more like Drama Queen anon. This shit's starting to get gay. No homo.

Anyway, I've been listening to this song these days almost on repeat.

I dedicate this song, to You.

>>61630

I was looking forward to posting with you and talking about the pictures, but I guess it can't be helped.

I don't like how you want to take all of the responsibility, but it's your decision.

>Promise me you won't blame anyone for this.

I can't.

I even considered we could make a different thread to talk the way we want(respecting the rules of the board, obviously) so similar conflicts could be avoided.

Whatever happens, I'm glad you got my message, and sorry for the trouble you had to go through here.

Thank you for thinking about us.

See you later ShapeShifter Anon, sometime, somewhere.

🇮 🇱

>>61631

I'm sorry about how things went. I understand if you are upset with me or anyone else. I agree the blame shouldn't be on them alone. If there is anything I can do to make up for it let me know.

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>>61631

PS: good night.

💤 💤

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>>61631

Yukari anon, please go to bed after this post you have work tomorrow.

>I can't.

NO, man I'm being serious. You don't understand. I need a time out a bit to let myself get in shape, I realized I'm the one that actually takes things and himself far too seriously. Don't worry I'll figure something out. Just give some time.

>Whatever happens, I'm glad you got my message, and sorry for the trouble you had to go through here.

No, man you are again getting the wrong message out of it. I DO NOT fit the community. I write long posts because I never said this but I know two other language and English is the third most recent I studied (although I knew some from cartoons as a kid) so I like to practice it online but this is not the place for my long obnoxious posts and trying to put in jargon and memes and bullshit and … whatever it is nevermind the reasons. I also don't fit the attitudes I've been on 4chan for 10 years I can't shake off some of my bad habit… fuck this now is not important.

>I even considered we could make a different thread to talk the way we want(respecting the rules of the board, obviously) so similar conflicts could be avoided.

I thought about that too but you can't do that because that way you are creating a precedent. Then others might want to do the same as well. Then even if it's just us two we might start attracting the wrong kind o people. Or others might decide that they want to join in and form groups and split the community.

>Thank you for thinking about us.

You didn't even say if you like the song. I really do love this song you are being insensitive again. I'm joking you aren't being insensitive but do you like this song by the way?

>>61633

No, man you are misunderstanding things as well. I didn't leave because I was mad at anybody. I was kinda feeling more cheerful today so I came to check out IAs birthday and I was relieved that everything was back to normal. I just don't want to risk creating any more trouble. I just realize I'm prone to trouble making. I want to leave you guys alone.

I have no bad feeling for you Miku anon. You don't know how relieved I was when I read you say "well he has done nice posts too" because the main problem that confused me was whether I wasn't always just pissing someone off with everything I write no matter what, because I would make small word play jokes and I would get replies with "oh…" or stuff that I just didn't know what I did wrong but I was just being overly sensitive as a new guy and all.

Now I realize you weren't talking to me but to Yukari anon. Sorry. I have to make everything about me it seems. Don't worry about him, he's being a bit manipulative again, trying me to change my decision. He doesn't realize I'm not playing roles now and I'm not joking around. I need to get some air, deal with some things that I have been neglecting in irl and so on.

In the mean time I want you two to play along. I don't think you realize this wasn't anyone one of you two's fault or anyone else's but me. I'm not deciding to take the blame it's what the truth IS.

Now good night. Get some rest.

>>61635

>I thought about that too but you can't do that because that way you are creating a precedent. Then others might want to do the same as well. Then even if it's just us two we might start attracting the wrong kind o people. Or others might decide that they want to join in and form groups and split the community.

This is already kind of micro happening with this thread now.

Don't worry, Yukari anon. I have an idea how we can discuss your OC stories in complete privacy while again being completely anonymous. I'm not sure it will work but I'll test it out and come back to you when I feel I'm ready and the circumstances around me allow it.

/SS Out. 🇮 🇱 🇮

>>61635

How about you go to bed first, you were planning sooner anyway.

I've seen enough to understand more than most people, however arrogant that might sound.

>I thought about that too but

This isn't a precedent, but it's natural you don't know this. And don't worry about "attracting the wrong people". As long as the rules aren't being broken, it should be welcome, especially if it's from out of consideration for the "community".

A resolution satisfying everyone should be our priority, not just some people. And I don't think you taking the blame and leaving is the best way.

Sorry for not commenting on the song, it simply isn't new to me. I do like most of UtataP's work, this one included.

>I'm not deciding to take the blame it's what the truth IS.

Stop saying that. I know you aren't 100% innocent, but it still wasn't right.

Good night indeed.

🇱

>>61637

>How about you go to bed first, you were planning sooner anyway.

Well I don't have work tomorrow so I can afford to get distracted.

>I've seen enough to understand more than most people, however arrogant that might sound.

I have no idea what you mean. You're talking in riddles.

Please don't get angry, Yukaru. I see you're getting pissed off for some reason. If you can't wait I'll see what I can do. I'll work it out. Just don't let it distract you in your day to day tasks and interactions.

>>61635

I feel I should apologize regardless of what you say. And as for me, I never had any real hate for you. A few annoyances and fundamental disagreements yeah, but it wasn't all bad or anything.

>>61637

>A resolution satisfying everyone should be our priority, not just some people

If there is a way for that I'd like to know. I can't see it.

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>>61639

>Please don't get angry, Yukaru.

At least you can take it.

>You're talking in riddles.

I'm just being considerate.

whether it's the right thing to do or not, is a different matter

And I didn't mean to pressure you to do anything, I merely expressed my thoughts.

Anyway, I'm off for real now.

Good night

💤

🇱

>>61640

>I feel I should apologize regardless of what you say. And as for me, I never had any real hate for you. A few annoyances and fundamental disagreements yeah, but it wasn't all bad or anything.

Apology accepted.

>>61641

>'m just being considerate.

whether it's the right thing to do or not, is a different matter

Yukariiiiiiii anon. You know me for a paranoid freak by now. How can you say stuff like that and leave not knowing if you mean me? It's like I'm getting punishes. Don't worry I have a solution I just have to test it.

>>61640

>If there is a way for that I'd like to know. I can't see it.

There is. But I'll talk about when I'm not drowsy and it does not involve this site.

Goodnight, both of you.

>>61642

I wasn't meaning about apologizing to you there, but maybe I owe you one too. I never meant any ill will towards you and if it ever seemed that way I am sorry for that.

>>61644

I'm sorry, I'm confused. You quoted me - shapeshifter and I thought you were talking about us?

Aren't you Miku anon?

nom

If Yukari anon is here I'll have ideas ready I just have to type them out.

>>61679

Listening.

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>>61680

I'm typing it out. Can you tell me in some way if you are the real Yukari anon, Sorry I'm going crazy by now

nom

>>61680

I want us to discuss your OC but I prefer if it’s in complete privacy because one of the reasons I was acting out roles and stuff that got me in this mess is because I always felt you were reluctant to speak openly about them since there are always others that could be watching and you also don’t want to reveal to private things publicly etc. so I always had to play out roles and be provocative in order to get words out of you. So this is not about me not wanting to use this site.

My idea was and I was going to talk to you about this on Sunday or idk I don’t remember, it was the day after the incident (there’s that word again) but then all that mess happened on top of the earlier mess. To be honest I wasn’t sure if you didn’t hate me after everything. I know I came very late in /v/MM but you left right after my post so I thought you didn’t want to have anything to do with me or were sick of me by now. I’m very happy I caught that post of yours here.

The idea: we can use the chat site omegle to put in very custom word filters like “YukariAnonConvo, 1473Voca, XdlpkRm and so on in the “interests” so that the site connects us and there we can ask each other some questions that only we could know and then take it from there. The problem is that it’s hard to synchronize and if the site doesn’t connect us it will connect us to random strangers.

What I need to make CLEAR is that:

We will ONLY discuss your OC

We will NOT discuss any of what happened here or people from here, I know both of us have enough integrity to not talk behind people’s backs.

You probably already know this but after the incident I’ve put away my silly games and I’m not playing any roles anymore,

There we will talk to one another normally and will be honest.

Even if it’s a chat we will NOT share private info or things like: height, weight, where we live, jobs, education, and age and so on and so on. We can talk about ourselves, share stories and experiences but not things that could compromise our identity and blab la

So what do you think? If you don’t like the idea and think it’s just too gay or something I have another idea but idk tell me about this one first. Do you use twitter?

errors.

nom

the site almost died on us.

>>61681

If you see this post, save your idea for later, when the site decides to let us submit and see posts.

Sorry.

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>>61682

yyyyeah.. I know you like panty shots but I'm not.. okay let's say it's you. It doesn't really matter I mean not many other people will be able to tell me about your OC. they can't fake it. I mean we will talking about the OC, not gossiping random stuff

>>61684

>>61689

I'd rather stick to imageboards.

I still want you to consider just using another thread here.

All of my OC has already been posted either here or on 4chan /v/, so I don't think there's anything to hide.

>it’s just too gay

Yeah, kind of.

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>>61690

And no, I don't use Twitter.

>>61690

Well since you have mostly posted all of it in the past you could use archives and stuff to link it or idk.

The second idea I had is I could just give you my twitter. It would leave a vulnerability for me but my twitter profile is my newest one and it's kind of my most well kept secret. It's completely separate from my normal life and I haven't told absolutely anybody. So it's kind of sandboxed in a way. It's my secret thing. I'm very happy with it because it's very nice to have something that's just all yours and away from everyone. I would be giving you the highers honor but not like you have ever appreciated anything.

>Yeah, kind of.

Thanks.

>>61691

Well that's even better because you can just quickly make one and it will have no previous marks, connections on the internet. Then we can follow each other and use the instant messaging function same like in facebook chat. Twitter is actually really fun I made mine on a whim one day when I had nothing to do.

I can give it to you and immediately delete the post.

>>61692

Forgot to mention all the rules in >>61684

Apply for twitter too.

>>61692

>>61693

You might have figured this out by now, but I don't like any form of social media, so making one is highly unlikely.

I wouldn't want either of us to expose anything personal either.

You still didn't tell me what's wrong with just using a thread and having the discussion to ourselves (possibly to anyone else interested).

Are you afraid of something?

Of me perhaps?

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as for the panty-shot, I might tell you once we get down to business

>>61694

>You still didn't tell me what's wrong with just using a thread and having the discussion to ourselves

But you don't understand the kind of questions I want to ask you. Some of them could be very personal or the answers might be against the image you want to have here on the site. Like I want to ask you about the little red eyed Yukari. I want to ask many things but just hinting at the questions is uncomfortable a bit.

I wanted to get to know you better as a person. I just checked, in twitter chat we can even exchange images. It's like any chat program but online based. I haven't used it myself though.

>Are you afraid of something?

On the contrary if I'm making this step. You don't know how important it is for me to keep my twitter secret. When one anon here game a Miku pics bot I didn't follow it and just bookmarked it because anyone could see my profile from the last new follower.

>but I don't like any form of social media

I was like that too but twitter is hardly social media. If you have a blank profile it's like you are here but there we can instant message and even save a lot of time.

I think you can make it literally in a sec with any data, that is if you want to.

>as for the panty-shot, I might tell you once we get down to business

I'm curious what's going on in that picture.

At least now you know how I felt when you were convincing me to come post here.

You do realize I'm talking about private chat? Not the stuff that gets posted on /v/? You probably never used twitter so you just don't know what it's like I had a very wrong image from 4chan.

I just was really bored one day and said to myself: What haven't I done yet? And I was like: I know, I'll make a twitter profile for shits and giggles to what's it about. It was out of curiosity really but I did everything to keep it separate from everything else because I'm just sick of everything being connected to everything.

You could make a very cute Yukari profile I think you'll like it once you have it set up.

>>61695

If it's too personal I'm likely not going to answer anyway, so you shouldn't worry about that.

When I said "afraid of something" I meant on this board.

I already have an account I didn't really want but was mandatory, and even that gives me pressure sometimes, so making another one is out of the question.

I'm not sure how personal you want to get, but there's hardly anything too sensitive as long as it's about pictures I already posted somewhere.

>>61696

I'm sorry if you're uncomfortable after everything that happened, and I understand if you don't want to stay no matter what.

>>61697

>the stuff that gets posted on /v/

I'm not sure what you might be referring to.

>>61698

>>61699

>I already have an account I didn't really want but was mandatory, and even that gives me pressure sometimes

What do you mean? Someone already made you make one? Ahh, I see so there are personal stuff on it that you don't want me to see because it could lead back to who you are?

>When I said "afraid of something" I meant on this board.

No but. It's not that I'm afraid I don't think it would be appropriate and I would feel really dumb being delegated like that like I'm separated from everyone because we hate each other, when it's not like that, well at least on my side. I just actually want to take advantage of the quicker messaging.

>If it's too personal I'm likely not going to answer anyway

Well the question themselves being asked could be a bit embarrassing and or you might take them as provocations if it's not in private. The social context is very different when someone might be watching even if they aren't you might not want to be honest or not tell the full story.

I'll give an example of a question: What is the story behind those images with little red eyed Yukari? You said you were talking about some stuff with someone else and it was relevant for the time. Were you talking about lonely birthdays? Were you alone sometimes? Are you sensitive on the topic or birthdays? I never knew what was the idea behind the sad table and how it perked in your head. The idea that they go on the sad table if they don't get birthday wishes is kind of cynical in nature. Like how many birthday wishes do you think you should get before you are happy? Is there a number? I mean you can be happy with none or even with just one if it's the right person and so on and so on I want to discuss this kind of things and made tell and share things about myself. Also the chronology of how create what and why and how it came about and so on.

I understand the topic might not even be interesting if it's not on a public place. Maybe you feel like it's more worth it if you are leaving your mark and it's a waste of time if it's just you and me? I kind of acted out roles because I felt there is an audience. I wouldn't act like an idiot on a private chat.

>>61699

>I'm sorry if you're uncomfortable after everything that happened, and I understand if you don't want to stay no matter what.

No I meant back in the day on /v/MM when it was about the picture. I didn't want to leave a post on this site no matter what because I don't really trust its security. I didn't know if IPs were visible or if there weren't vulnerability. Also I didn't know what kind of people post on the other boards. If this site get's taken down one day for illegal conduct I wasn't sure I wanted my IP logged here. Not to mention there have been IP leaks on next.

I will consider that about the thread just tell me what you think about all of this first.

>>61700

I have a Steam because videogames. Only very close people know it though.

>I would feel really dumb being delegated like that

>when it's not like that

You seem to be prejudiced against the idea, yet you want to deny it.

If you disregard the recent mess, can you really tell me what's wrong with it?

>you might take them as provocations

Your lack of faith is disturbing.

I can only repeat what I said earlier: when I posted my pictures for the first time, I already took the risk of someone asking about them, even if it didn't happen too often.

>little red eyed Yukari

I could answer that question here, or wait until we really begin. This is a throw-away thread after all.

Didn't you mention lurking MM for years? A lot of things you asked there have been thoroughly discussed in 2014 on /v/. I can tell you pretty much everything, but I find this curious.

I do recall telling you about the table recently too.

I'm not intending to put on a show for others, I just don't want to go too far from my usual place. Once we get to discuss things, you'll probably find the reason for this too.

>>61701

I never really considered the security of the site, since its owner seems to care about anonymity, I just assume they do everything to protect their users privacy.

I would like to point out, even if don't reach a resolution here, about 90% of my pictures were posted in upstairs and (local)MM threads, if you want to see them.

Seeing them might change the way you think about me, but it's a risk I took long ago, and I should have the will to answer for any of my work.

>>61702

Despite the circumstances, I still consider the site/board anonymous.

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>>61704

*if we don't reach

💢

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>>61704

Okay okay. I understand wait a sec for my post and well get it started

>>61704

>You seem to be prejudiced against the idea, yet you want to deny it.

Not really I just thought it could be more comfortable and more efficient, quicker but if you don't want then it's okay. I just wanted to ask if you liked the ideas.

>I have a Steam

That is not an option for me because I don't use steam. I barely play any games and the ones I do I got on physical and I play the pirate versions if they still require steam activation because I just don't like the service.

>Only very close people know it though.

You mean the people here, but not me. Thanks again.

Am I free to assume that you will create a Yukari anon OC thread just for us? (well probably not that name) and that people wouldn't be bothered? I mean no one will get angry that it got made or think it implies I don't want to post with the others? People won't go "what is this faggot still doing here?" I mean I did say I won't go against my word but I do know what compromises are and it's clear to me you are the kind of person that always wants things to be their way (no offense intended)

>Didn't you mention lurking MM for years? A lot of things you asked there have been thoroughly discussed in 2014 on /v/. I can tell you pretty much everything, but I find this curious.

Back in the day like I said I lurked but as you guessed probably by my priorities: pictures and music. I just saved the pics posted and the music links to a youtube playlist. I DID open all of your pics just to look at them but I didn't save any because I had a rule not to save pics that are screenshot types. Like I mostly saved drawn art pictures or digital drawn art. I make exceptions when the screenshot render looks like drawn art almost but a 3D program has been used like the one you use but I didn't want to save images with story significance or those pertaining to "thread culture" because it was a thing I just didn't take part in. In that summer memories picture if I'm in it I'm the air. I didn't read the text associated with them so I never knew what was going on. You already asked me before, yes I do think I missed out on it, it's why I'm interested but mostly because I'm interested in you as a person not the stories themselves. I want to know what thought/train of thought went behind them.

>I do recall telling you about the table recently too.

Yes you quoted some threads from here but I don't think those were all? Were they? Anyway I still had more questions you got me confused once you said that the sad table started because of a GUMI birthday but then you said it ended at it? Anyway ok let's make the thread.

Well begin with what's most fresh that picture a minute ago.

We'll - We will. fuck my grammar.

>>61708

I mean this one >>61682

Once you make the thread.

I honestly think the thread idea isn't bad because other people might take part and more people might take an interest in it.

It could be a new Yukari anon OC renaissance.

>>61707

> I didn't want to save images with story significance or those pertaining to "thread culture" because it was a thing I just didn't take part in.

Then again I didn't save that pic you made where I was like 50 % of the people on it. I should have claimed one of the Rins but I never really admired that plastic figure so it wasn't an accurate representation.

I don't know I just don't save your pics. I really liked that Kaito fuck off webm but I don't save webms.

>>61707

>Thanks again.

You're making assumptions here, but I can't blame you.

I remember you mentioned you didn't care for the discussions. Funny how things change, huh?

Obviously we can't make a thread only for the two of us, but we can make it so it would only concern us. It's an open board, so others are welcome to post in it if they want to, and I wouldn't want to lock out anyone interested, but given the topic it will probably be stuff most people already know about and have no further interest in.

"MMD OC thread" might be suitable topic for it.

What do you think?

>>61708

>>61709

>>61710

>>61711

and before you forget,

"Upstairs" may be a hugbox, but proper discussion about board related content is encouraged. So no hurt feelings*.

>>61713

>"MMD OC thread" might be suitable topic for it.

Yeah man, whatever you want, you will be making it. So you use MMD? Aha.

>>61713

>I remember you mentioned you didn't care for the discussions. Funny how things change, huh?

What changed is that I started caring for you, fuckface. I didn't know even who was making the images back in the day, let alone what the discussion was about. It even took me a few minutes to figure out that all those people on the tables next to the beach were supposed to be the posters in the thread. I was so oblivious even to something as simple as that let alone those story, table ones.

>>61713

>So no hurt feelings*.

And don't talk in riddles. If we're gonna discuss anything I want it to be honest and direct. If there are misunderstanding we will sort them out.

>>61637

>I've seen enough to understand more than most people, however arrogant that might sound.

You telling me you doubt my motivations? I'll have you know I never was sure if I didn't get masterfully trolled here on this board. If everything wasn't some mega joke discussed in a steam chat.

But I do trust you. I also trust you to be a big enough bigshot around here to know what you are doing.

>>61714

By the way I ain't getting angry I'm just bantering, you did say you miss it.

>>61714

>>61715

Let me find an OP pic then.

>>61716

Yeah, don't worry I will be nice and I will not be talking in roles. I know we're not on 4chan.

>Let me find an OP pic then.

Better be good so that you don't hate how the thread looks later. You're gonna be the star in it after all.

I just hope the thread doesn't get nomed

>>61717

>Better be good so that you don't hate how the thread looks later.

whoops

>>61720

*Yukari avatar pic looking back at you blankly*

>>61721

let's dance

>>61722

have you danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?

Sorry, I'm a shitposter by nature I really do hope I don't get you in trouble

>>61722

>>61729

If worse comes to worst we can ask a mod to make the thread bumplocked.

spuh

criket

>>69982

>>69986

What can I do you for?