/modernislam/ - Modern Islam

>>218

>sweden

YES

>>218

>dat flag

I'm gay and I still couldn't help but laugh

I'm off to click the random board button again, I hope your board makes it eventually kebab Board Owner

>>165

You're free to start your own board on here.

>>165

chill tf out fag

>>168

you sure seem to have diligently explored every crevice of this board looking for arousing content. did you touch yourself?

>>204

Not a difficult exploration as everything's still on the front page. Slow board.

Also, nice use of the word "crevice".

Why not just convert to Christianity so you can be more popular, less apologetic about your own faith's tenets, and generally less associated with wanton murderers?

>>158

I can't figure if you're Muslim or not.

>>158

What can actually be done is retranslate. Understand that the Quran was not written in a fully understood language, and much of what we understand of it today comes from 8th century Iraqi linguists who read the text with all the temperance and gentleness of 8th century Iraqis.

The bigger problem is philosophy and lifestyle of religious worship and adherence. People are flexible when it comes to what they choose or not choose to follow in a book. They're less understanding when it comes to rituals, religious leadership and membership, and culture.

>>158

>Context or not this is troubling!

>context

Why do you have a problem with context? In any language, any book, any thought process; context is everything.

You can't read 2:191-193 without first reading 2:190.

Here's what you're doing when you remove context.

The sign reads: If you have children, please step to the back of the room.

You're saying that the "then" part of the statement is all that is there. You step to the back of the room and look around and wonder why all those children are there.

You say: The sign said step to the back of the room.

Context says: IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN

2:190 puts the brutality of 2:191 in context. Proving, without a doubt, that 2:191 isn't really all that brutal.

2:190 turns "kill them all" into "if they fight you, defend yourself".

>>76

Isn't it fantastic?

Not Muslim, but I've seen his debates with Anjem Choudary. Vid related.

Obviously Choudary is a hothead, but as a non-Muslim, for all I know he could be kicking ass with scripture. These guys never sit down with their holy texts and really analyze shit.

It's always:

1) No, the Qu'ran doesn't say that

2) Woah, you're really misinterpreting that

>>167

Maajid Nawaz is a liberal infiltrator and Quilliam is a government sponsored apologist think tank. Everything he preaches undermines what we would think of as conventional Islam. He married a non-Muslim who didn't convert, he's a gay rights activist, he's glib on sexual immorality and thinks it's fine to eat pork.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/04/nice-try-maajid-nawaz-you-didn-t-go-lapdancing-club-because-you-re-feminist

Choudary doesn't read Arabic so he's not exactly an authority but afaik he doesn't pretend to be. He's an edgelord, a firebrand, and if popular belief is to be respected, an Mi5 plant.

>>25

>Real Islam doesn't threaten native cultures

The Sassanids, the egyptian kopts, the medinian pagans, the sunworshippers and hindus of afghanistan, the christians of Aksum along with various other groups that do not exist anymore due to muslim warfare since muhammeds rise might disagree with you.

The obvious meaning here is that the subjugation of these groups was not real Islam, but your bog standard Medieval oppression of the powerful against the powerless.

To their credit, at least, there are still Zoroastrians and Copts in Iran and Egypt after all this time, and it's really been in the last century or so that suppression reached a fever pitch with the rise of nationalism and Pan Islamism.

>>134

>rise of nationalism and Pan Islamism

Which in itself was in response to imperialism.

Another question mulslim bros.

What do you think are the main theological differences between Islamic and Christian doctrine? Also what do you think are the most important practical differences between the two?

>>134

All proselytizing faiths erode and destroy native cultures over time. It's interesting that the default position of most ethnic or pagan religions is to not seek converts.

>#4 What does the Quran say about bestially? (Goats specifically)

I'm not the one to shill for Sunnis but bestiality was only addressed by a Twelver Shi'a fatwa. Not not sure whether they drew this from fiqh or from their own canon of hadiths. Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of Islamic Iran, supreme leader and its once preeminent religious authority, said it was permissible but discouraged it.

Yasir Quadhi.

anjem chowder

>>136

"Secularism" is a paradoxal recent Western construct noone's even sure what it means. The future is liberal religion, not secularism or atheism.

secularims sux, it brought about liberal decay like feminism pc fags an sjws…religion kept that shit in order instead of being degenrates that dont reproduce causing population aging

Give it a couple decades. Don't expect it to last long, though. Climate change is going to consume the Earth and there are no good "alternative energies", so civilization will inevitably collapse and that means the Day Of The Rope will commence - a reversion to the ancient ways

would like to see the caucus like chchnya n dagetan along with central asia go independent and let those slavics rule themselves.

Well, to be frank - it is also fake.

>>183

Shhh no he's not!

>>152

love them midriffs. if i become a muslam will i get that?

>>177 Why does god care so much about pictures/idolatry? Anyone with adult reasoning capacity should be able to distinguish an icon from the diety himself.

Read up on history, descent into idolatry has been a problem for many religions, including Christianity today.

>>177 Now that we have germ theory of disease and can fight meat born parasites with proper sanitation, why is halal/haram still needed?

Halal food restrictions are based entirely on Hadith, not the Quran.

>>177 Why does god care so much about (moderated) drinking? If he;s omnipotent, then why did he only ban alcohol and not yet-to-be-invented drugs like meth or krokdil?

It's not up to us to answer "why" God did what he did. But many interpret the Quran as being against all intoxicants, not just alcohol specifically.

>>178

Predictably only answering the easy side-questions.

>>177

You're never going to find ANYTHING of value in the words of an average believer, let alone a goddamn Muslim. Most people can't think in complete sentences, let alone articulate why they believe in…well, anything, really. Read thinkers like Aquinas, they will at the very least be a little more exciting because they actually know how to think in a principled manner and make a case.

>>115

Arabs are accorded great status…in their minds and fabricated Hadith.

>>27

During the muslim golden age the center were cities that created knowledge and wealth like baghdad before it got zerg rush'd by the mongols

In contrast dubai its an artificial resort-as-city that only caters to dumb money and speculators

>>125

Ask the palestinians about the muslim kinship and how it went for them

Specially with the jordans…

An opulent, superficial, soulless waste of money built on slave labor. These Enteritis have pissed their money up against the wall. It is the crown of monumental stupidity, the costs of keeping that place alive may bite them in the ass as soon as the oil supplies starts to dwindle. Second to that is that stupid Abraj Al Bait thing in Mecca. I can compare these things to the Disneyland known as the Vatican.