/monster/ - The Last Bastion of Romance

>part 3

Ehhh, not too keen on most of the monstrosities in that.

Is Meia the worst monster girl in all of fiction?

>demo

>for a mod

>for a VN

Just release the damn thing.

>>136872

>cuck fish

into the matango pit it goes

>>136889

The problem with throwing her into the matango pit is that matangos do sexual things with girls, too, and Meia is someone that does not deserve intimacy of any kind, but does deserve the agony that comes with being a mushroom person waiting eternally for hell to come wash over them. So, with that said, what is the most "inactive" type of matango? What mushroom or fungi type do we have to base a part of the matango pit on for there to be no sexual pleasure for her for the rest of time, only spores choking her lungs?

You faggots sure are sensitive about cucking.

>>136873

This is part three of MGQ part one.

>>136899

>not hating cuckshit

>>136905

I don't enjoy it but I'm definitely not as autistic about it as you guys.

>>136899

We don't like that it ruined Luka's character.

>>136912

How is it meant to have done that?

>>136912

>guy who gets raped all the time

>gets raped by a mermaid

>ruined his character

What. I mean Meia a shit, but I've never seen people making such a big deal of that scene until /monster/.

>>136927

he doesnt get raped all the time cause when you get raped you get a game over. only alice rapes luka

>>136906

fuck off redditor.

remember mudpussy?

>>137028

>waaah you don't agree with me therefore redditor

I hate cucking too but fucking christ man that autism.

>>137042

This is 8chan. We hate cucks with a passion. For fucks sake, we still refer to 4chan as cuckchan.

>>137042

>White knighting.

seek karma elsewhere.

>>136877

Without a doubt.

>>136872

>with his powers from the end of the game to the beginning of the first

The fuck? So how is there any challenge when you can literally defeat Alice the first time you meet her.

>>136877

Of course.

>>137379

i think you're missing the entire point

>>137379

New Game + being about 'challenge' is a fairly new convention, and something of shitty one at that. Used to just be a fun way to bulldoze through JRPGs and maybe win the battles you're scripted to lose to see a bit of a different scene afterwards. Beefing up the enemies so they're proportionally as strong as you are the second time around seems to defeat the whole of a New Game + to me.

That said this mod seems to be a whole new deal with a party system and everything so who knows what it's about.

>>137400

I wasn't suggesting enemies should be scaled up that would be silly I'm just having trouble understanding what the game play is like. I mean does it basically become a visual novel?

>>137418

>is it basically a visual novel

>the entire OP is about all of the new romances and sex scenes

Come on

>>137379

>>137400

>>137418

>>137419

Okay, let me elaborate on this.

You do start with Lukas old powers and get to be OP for a little while, but a few things happen to keep the game interesting.

1. You still have the ring that seals your angel powers. Since angel mode slowly turns you into christian metal, you keep it on for most fights, meaning that any non boss fight only allows you access to your elemental powers, which are weaker but still pretty stronk. You also don't have the spirits at first.

2. Some enemies, usually just bosses, are scaled up in damage and HP.

3. Bosses use new tactics, to which you gain countermeasures as well, more on that later. This includes secondary functions to the artificial spirits, which show up much sooner now. notUndine can poison you now, slowly draining away your life, notGnome can make enemies almost invincible and notSalamander gives them a fucking berserk form, although I've only seen that in one fight so far, not sure what notSylph does. Bosses also have smarter AIs, that use some strategy, which is best experienced yourself, and most of them gain a move to counter daystar after having it used on them once.

4. Luka gains new skills, like the secondary spirit skills and the better guard.

The better guard function works like this. Guarding can of course dodge big attacks, but it also reduces the damage of normal ones, but not being able to attack makes it mostly pointless. Now, after you guard, you can use some moves without letting your guard down, meaning that after one full guard, you keep 25% damage reduction if you only use certain moves. These moves are Meditate, a new move that regenerates 2 sp + 1 sp for each subsequent meditate, meaning meditating 5 times in a row gives you +6 sp by the fifth time (sounds OP but it's balanced), as well as meditate. There are some bosses in which you are almost constantly on the offensive and only come out of guard mode for some big spells.

Secondary spirit functions give you more things your spirits can do. Undine gains a move to cure the poison status, for example. Also, attacks empowered by the spirits can now disable enemy spirits, making a gnome charged heavenly demon revival able to break through the enemies gnome and making him more vulnerable again, as an example.

5. You fight some bosses you haven't fought before, and those that you have have an entirely different moveset. New bosses include Tamamos true form as an optional boss.

Overall, the fights are way more interesting than those in the original mgq and actually require strategy instead of luck. As a downside, most normal monsters you encounter on your way have not been modified in any way, meaning that they die in two hits and have no new sex scenes. Sylph is the hardest fucking boss, she will wreck your shit.

>>137482

Also, to advertise some more, the guy that makes the mod once listed how many lines of dialogue each of the spirits and knights get, compared to Alice. It was minuscule.

The mod expands on the few lines each of them has and fleshes out their characters in fun and lewd ways. They feel like the same characters, but you get to know them better and the knights later on join you in boss battles for support.

You can choose one knight to travel with you, meeting and accepting another means sending the old one away. You travel the world with Alice, Luka, the spirits, the knight of your choice or no knight at all if you want to waifu Alice, and some minor characters that join you along the way.

After finishing some missions, you get a camp scene where you can chat with the different party members. This is a very fun feature and again fleshes out the characters. I especially like travelling with Tamamo, since she always tells anecdotes and stories from her long life and the great monster war, among other things.

>>137487

it sounds good but the whole thing is gonna take forever to come out

>>137493

just play parts one, two and the demo for now and then join us in the long wait

>>136881

>>137021

NG+ actually made me hate sylph

>>137560

you aren't alone there

if you get sylph last, you get scenes where the other spirits rant about hoe annoying she is and ask luka if he can't just skip her, which he sadly declines. summon all 3 in front of sylph and she will give up and sulk, because you got her last, even though heroes usually get her first

>>137841

Never fought that secret boss in the original, but Sylph is very hard, some bosses take very long or require a certain strategy and the demo has some very dangerous bosses like queen mermaid, who can also kick your ass in pretty hard.

>>137920

The Spirits basically went from "let's see if this one is worthy" to "shit nigger dis guys gonna kill me" and behave accordingly.

The Knights are also stronk, the Granberia fight was pretty challenging, next only to FUCKING SYLPH. I don't think Alma uses her karate at all though, I talked with the guy that makes the mod before and he said that it wouldn't fit her character to use it in regular battle.

Later down the road, he intends to add a kind of bonus room, the arena mode, where you can battle optional bosses that wouldn't have made sense in the story, like Karate Alma and maybe Lukas mom or something.

>>137941

She takes the role of your adviser in the sequences after you are defeated. She is also pretty mean in them, contrary to her usual character, probably a little piece of her mother shining through there.

You can unlock a blowjob scene with her if you do all the evaluations, and I mean all of them. NG+ part 2 has only enough fights to barely unlock her scene, so if you even win one of them without getting an evaluation, you aint getting shit. This will be fixed when part 3 comes out however, since the list of losses carries over to that, making getting the scene easier. She might get other scenes later on, not sure.

I need more! Maybe I should go back and play again with knights other than Tamamo to see what happens there. Least we got some gnome face sitting action

>>138014

Playing with the other knights is fun, as is getting the spirits in a different order.

Get Salamander first and be nice to her in a choice, you won't regret it

Get Sylph first and loose a lot to her (not hard) and you get an extra reward from her at the camp

use edging as your fist move against Granberia and see what happens

Eastereggs are fun

I've always thought of Gnome to be the best girl. How is she in this?

>>138035

Gnome a shit, easily the worst spirit. Kuuderes are trash and the super duper autistic ones like Gnome that never show the dere are the worst of all.

Sylph is the best spirit by far and a worthy waifu.

Also, the first comment on that update post

> "Did you just say… "Slime Girls"…? https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=2l1NvmLmhVQ#t=12s OMFG YUS!!! I love them SOOOO much…! <3 And thanks ever so much for the update, I look forward to the next update even moar now, Slime Girls make me so Moist.. For all of the RIGHT reasons…! ^-^"

combat in mgq is complete trash, why did anyone think making it more RNB based would be an improvement

>>138035

Gnome is okay, you can have conversations with her in the camp scenes, but she only responds by shaking her head or nodding most of the time.

Since she has her own route, she will probably open up somewhere along the line, but since only 2 of 6 parts are out so far, we can only guess.

One of the demos has a scene in the camp with her, bonussexscenes are usually unlocked by gaining affection points with the character and are a sign that you are on her route, but it was probably enabled just to show it in the demo. You give Gnome an erotic massage and perform oral on her.

>>138049

>more RNB

It's Random Number Generator, so RNG.

Also, while some fights in the original game were pure luck, the dev of NG+ has actually put effort into the enemy AI instead. I do agree that the two hardest fights, Granberia and Sylph, are somewhat dependant on RNG to win them, but the other bosses can usually be defeated by the same strategy, no matter how often you repeat them. Keep in mind that some bosses start using stronger attacks when you are under 50% HP, block your Daystar or use onehit attacks when a spirit isn't summoned, so you can't use a fit's all strategy like you often could in the original.

In comparison to this, the original has a laundry list of fights that rely purely on luck, like the Sister Lamia, the fight against 3 enemies at once in Plansect and many others I'm forgetting now. Not to mention all the fights that were supposed to challenge but became piss easy by spamming Daystar.

Did I mention that Daystar is no longer a diceroll where it doesn't do anything if the enemy doesn't attack you that turn? In NG+, it stays charged, even if the enemy doesn't attack, and is released as soon as they do, meaning LESS RNG.

>>137482

Now, maybe that's just me, but isn't the point of NG+ to beast through all the old shit? What's the point if every old boss gets beasted up too?

Unless we've suddenly become dark souls.

>>138292

well before NG+ most enemies were taking it very easy on you so if you're beasting through everything then they figure that you dont need mercy since you can take what they dish out

>>138292

Fully agree with you fam.

>>138307

>There is an old NG+ mod made by another guy that allows this, Luks just keeps his powers but not his memories and just annihilates everything without the story changing.

If you're talking about the Spasman one you're way offbase. The story bosses you're scripted to lose against in the real game get ridiculous power-ups in the New Game +, so Granberia for instance the first time you meet her is twice as tough as the Granberia from the end of chapter 2. It's all dumb as fuck. Nanabi gets a ridiculous power-up. Alma too. Everyone you didn't pin clean in the original game is massively buffed. Totally pointless.

>>138328

fuck off Losenis, nobody has time for that shit

>>136881

>Sylph

>Hard

lol, just summon the other three spirits :^)

>>138344

If you want to unlock Sylphs hidden sex scene, you need to fight her first. This means no spirits, angel only, final destination.

Have fun with that m8.

>>138959

Only weaklings need Starblade to beat her.

>>139099

Speaking of Starblade, this hasn't been mentioned here yet.

The heavenly knight of your choice joins you in battle later on.

They have a set number of sp per fight that can't be replenished and allow you to use various special attacks.

So far, I've only found their most powerful ones to be useful, and they are VERY strong so they might need some balancing.

Granberias strongest attack is Starblade. It costs her a majority of her sp and luka 9 sp. Luka makes a Daystar and Granberia imbues her sword with it's power and hits the enemy with it, it does an absurd amount of damage.

Tamamo can use Moonlight Cannon, neither Alma nor Erubite have been playable in fights yet.

>>139111

To be fair, Starblade does feel awesome to use. I just wish that it was remarked on more when you use it first, both from the enemy side and from the side of the party.

But maybe such a thing will be added on. I have a suspicion Starblade will only be available if you pick the correct dialogue choices in the earlier chapters.

I'm not sure the balancing is necessary, considering the knight joins you only in some fights, and that the game has a ton of replay value; you can beat enemies the hard way in some routes, and feel awesome in others.

>>139125

Okay, that makes sense.

Having a few attacks that just fuck shit up but need special circumstances to work like Daystar, Elemental Spica and Starblade is fun and adds to the game in it's own way.

Is balancing the opposite of fun? It often seems like it.

>>139183

The key is not to let the special circumstances feel too forced, and also not to let these gimmicks overstay their welcome.

And oh boy does MGQ give us excellent examples of both.

Q^4Giga was just awful everytime is was used, and besides being stupid, was forced as fuck.

And on the other side of that, we have Daystar, which while actually a satisfying thing to use, basically became the #1 deodorant is almost every fight it could be used in. After a while, instead of being awesome, it starts to feel like you are being pigeon-holed.

Once again, I think it's a big deal that there are alternative routes where you do not get access to these broken tools. Will make us appreciate these tools by comparison.

>>136872

>You can get 15 different endings, depending on your choices.

When was that stated?

>>139418

He said so in the irc.

#NG+ on Rizon

4 endings for the knights

4 endings for the spirits

one ending for alice

one ending where you end up alone

5 endings for the new party members, which include a genki harpy from harpy village, a ditzy kitsune that travelled with tamamo, chrome the necromancer loli and while the last two aren't confirmed, it's probably the mermaid queens daughter and Ririmu, the succubus he made up

>>139421

There's a counter for "Kuria_rep" in the files, which is similar to "Alice_rep", "Harpy_rep", and even "Chrome_rep". Does "Kuria" ring any bells?

>>139423

>>139424

I don't think I know that name, maybe it's another original character. Whatever the case, there are 5 minor party members and 3 of them are already confirmed. Also, you fucked up your spoiler.

>>139425

Oops. Not sure how to fix multi line spoilers if that breaks them. I'm probably just stupid, though.

Sage for off topic.

>>139424

okay, let's break this down

Scene involves Alice, Chrome, Sister Lamia (who might be the new party member) and Kuria, the mystery character. Kuria seems to be a former human turned into a monster >Also, you're a monster now, which makes me your ruler. And she seems to be pretty fucking old, so maybe she was related to the great monster war or the ancestors? Any more ideas?

>>139424

This post is deleted now, this is what it said.

It was a part of the games code with yet unknown characters, so this is probably pretty huge spoiler material, so read at your own risk: https://ghostbin.com/paste/z3f7p

>>139426

stop it with the spoilers m8, digging through the code to discover some minor scraps of information is assburger, just wait for the game to come out

if you really can't stop yourself, please refrain from posting that shit on /monster/ so that you don't spoiler everyone

>>139432

To be fair, it's pretty easy to avoid lines that look like "lsp 700,":a;chara\alice_st01b.bmp",-133,0". It's not like a random spoiler line out of nowhere.

And please don't tell people what to do with their time.

>>138292

I kind of agree with this. Luka at the end of Chapter 3 is far stronger than Alice, so no mere queen class monster should give him trouble.

I think the answer is not to buff up existing queen class monsters, but rather to make packs of powerful monsters attack Luka together. That way there can be a bit of challenge, but it's also clear that none of those monsters individually stand a chance against Luka.

>>139849

I don't mind the changes by saying that the new bosses go all out, use a new trick, fight desperately or just get some artificial spirits from Illias to fill the power gap.

The Queen harpy didn't fight you seriously the first time, neither did most of the knights and spirits.

I mean, even at the final battle in Alice castle, everyone besides Erubite seemed to be cheering for you, even though you fought them. This time, when you first face Granberia, she is mortified because a high level angel showed up and she means business, which explains why she is hard to beat, same for the others.

Having clusters of monsters would just seem like too much of a power fantasy to me.

Also, keep in mind that this would cause a bunch of other issues. Ecstasy (modmaker) would have to code multiple AIs and all sex scenes would be group sex.

>>139841

If I recall correctly, the request feature caused issues with his additions to the game, so he removed it completely.

Every monster only has one sex scene per fight, if there are secondary scenes listed in the Monsterpedia, it means that you have to get them through story events.

For example, Salamander has her regular sex scene when you loose to her, but also one you unlock at the camp when you choose to get Salamander as your first spirit.

So there is little reason to try to see all the attacks, except if you want to fap to the fight itself instead of the porn afterwards, in which case just come by #NG+ on Rizon and ask Ecstasy directly how to trigger the attacks. If you can't make them show up no matter what, you might have found a bug.

>>139849

Just because Luka is stronger than Alice, doesn't mean that he would have no issue fighting her or even someone weaker. It would still be a desperate fight for his life, and plot aside, I would in fact bet on Alice as she likely has some hidden moves Luka doesn't yet know about. Alice, meanwhile, knows Luka's fighting style through and through.

If you look at the NG+'s fights again, while your enemies are may defeat you if you are bad at tactics, you are acknowledged to be advantaged in most of them. Harpy Queen being my favorite example, as she does give you trouble when she fights you seriously, but goes down like a punching bag if you don't lose to her gimmick.

I also agree with >>139851 , and I do in fact really enjoy the reversal of shota… I mean shonen logic we have. Where in the original and almost all such fiction the hero is disadvantaged against his enemies, and only wins because they underestimate him, are bad at tactics, fight with each other, have stupid plans, and because the hero has awesome friends that show up out of nowhere, here the hero is in fact seen as a real threat. While some fooling around will still be present, we finally have a chance for our antagonists to shine, and have a more… well… I suppose fair and serious confrontations and victories.

Usually the series would have to do a prequel to show the characters going all out, and prequels have their own problems.

I'll just leave this here, the famous pastebin about why part 3 is terrible, which also functions as an explanation for why NG+ is necessary.

http://pastebin.com/8jAu8Ssb

>>139913

>I wasn't as bothered by the problems this paste brings up about part 3, but I certainly understand why so many people felt let down.

I remember some anon back on halfchan comparing part 3 to Return of the Jedi in the original SW trilogy and I really like that analogy. It's the weakest of the 3, it has ewoks and some characters don't really do anything interesting for the entire movie, the tone is sometimes off, but it's still pretty good. It's not 1/10 worst thing ever unless you just want to sperg out about things.

>>139851

>Having clusters of monsters would just seem like too much of a power fantasy to me.

It's New Game +.

>>139851

>This time, when you first face Granberia, she is mortified because a high level angel showed up and she means business, which explains why she is hard to beat, same for the others.

The first time you beat Granberia in the castle you had much lower stats, but you also had the 4 spirits. When you fight Granberia in NG+ you are much higher level, but you also lack the spirits, so it kind of balances out. That's why she stood a chance, and that's why that fight makes sense. Granberia's power didn't go up at all. If you had all 4 of the spirits and your angel powers you would have crushed her.

>The Queen harpy didn't fight you seriously the first time, neither did most of the knights and spirits.

I think the only knight that Luka was not on par with was Tamamo. Luka lacked his spirits when he fought the queen harpy, so the difficulty of that fight kind of made sense.

>Also, keep in mind that this would cause a bunch of other issues. Ecstasy (modmaker) would have to code multiple AIs and all sex scenes would be group sex.

This is a valid point. If group encounters are too much of a pain to code and ruin the H scenes, then maybe the dark god should somehow be released, and more seraphim should make their appearance on Ilias's side. Those kinds of creatures would be at least as strong if not stronger than Luka.

so to install I just need to use the part 3 update 2 download right?

Do I have to beat mgq vanilla before I can start?

>>139944

Part 3 is more like The Force Awakens. It's completely lifeless, riddled with plot holes and has a Lightning-tier bad female lead.

>>140357

I made it about 10 minutes into part 3 just coming off of part 2 :^) and was put off by the whole thing.

This NG+ thing is great, granted they expect you to have played part 3 but i'm still getting most of this without a problem.

>>140348

Download the full original mgq, meaning this (https://mega.co.nz/#!9Y8ywKSa!QBcjtmjKA_2DHfgkzy86n4J6ZwGTUsEu4cP2ZWBPXbU)

(If this doesn't work, check the 4chan /mgqg/ pastebin for another way to download http://pastebin.com/xAVD9SSt)

Then you just go to the modmakers blog (http://ecstasywastaken.blogspot.de/) , download his patch and paste all it's files into your copy of mgq (make sure you allow the mod files to replace the originals).

You don't need to beat the original game to play NG+, it even kinds beats it for you by unlocking all H scenes from the old game in the Monsterpedia upon installation.

Make sure to keep a copy of the original mgq without any patches around, I think the demos have to be pasted into a fresh copy to work.

>>140405

Minor spoilers

(btw I'm serious with these spoiler tags, don't read that shit if you want a completely blind playthrough.)

Chrome hasn't even shown up yet. She will probably appear in the full part 3, whenever that will be released. I don't think you'll be able to kill her, but read on.

Along your way, you will get the chance to invite other characters into your travel group, meaning you aren't alone with Alice all the time anymore. When a new potential travel partner shows up, you can reject them, so when Chrome shows up, you can just tell her to fuck herself instead of having her travel around the world with you. Each party member will have her own ending, but nobody is forcing you to get the Chrome ending. The group members are most prominent in the camp scenes, a new mechanic where you are in your camp in the evening and talk to the members of your group. As for part 2, you have 2 minor travel companions that you pick up long the way, Alice, the spirits, which now manifest outside your head, interact with other people at the camp and so on and one heavenly knight. You encounter all 4 of them throughout parts 1 and 2 but your encounter with Erubite doesn't leave her very open to joining you, so you will only get her in part 3 or later. If you meet another heavenly knight but already have one in your party, they will still offer to join you, but if you accept, the other knight will leave.

Considering >>139421 , your party at the end will probably consist out of 12 people at maximum, Luka included.

Each of the possible waifus have a hidden counter of affection points, meaning that depending on what choices you make, they will behave differently towards you. This is most evident with Granberia, because she will refuse to talk to you, even if she is in your group, if you don't have sufficient affection points. You can (literally) fuck this up rather easily by not refusing Alices advances in the hotel, because this will lock you out of Granberia dialogue until you get the next chance to be nice to her, which is a little later on.

You can not only unlock dialogue with the people at your camp though, but also other things. While the normal dialogue option at the camp is white, affection points or specific choices can also unlock yellow scenes, which you get after finishing the white scenes and which are somewhat more arousing.

Heavy Spoilers:

Depending on your character of choice, you will also gain in game benefits. The knights will join you in battle, the spirits have been hinted to unlock very powerful extra abilities if you waifu them, although you can only have one per route and the and the minor waifus will probably offer some kind of benefit as well.

>>140348

>>140386

I recommend playing part 3, even if it's a chore (enable the fast forward button) , because while NG+ currently takes place around when part 1 and 2 played originally, you will probably encounter the characters and concepts from part 3 later on and be very confused.

It's also worth it, just to see how much part 3 fucked up everything. I trust the creator of NG+ to conveniently retcon at least half of that shit though.

>>140405

On the freeform aspect, if you had the option to randomly kill off people, that would mean too many variables.

Imagine writing branching story paths for all that shit, way too much effort.

Also, killing monsters outside of extreme circumstances is out of character for Luka.

>>140478

What is the Gone Home of monster girls?

>>140495

Matangos.

>>140495

slime egg girl

>>140495

http://store.steampowered.com/app/429580

>>140499

Why is there so much pearl clutching over slime egg girl by the way? I missed the discussion when that monster first dropped. Just seemed like a regular old shitty slime to me.

>>140505

>>140505

because "muh abortion". actually a jubjub chick transformed into a new lifeform before hatching.

humans being stupid, basically.

>>140338

Dude, what?

I think Ecstasy just wanted to give everyone the waifu endings they always craved instead of the shit that happened at the end of part 3.

>>140864

There is one sex scene with loli alice towards the end but still, the entire transformation doesn't really seem to serve any purpose, except making her even brattier, bitchy and annoying.

As for why all the monsters are tentacle abominations, I can only guess. Part 3 destroys any ambiguity the setting once had. Before, you were wondering if Ilias maybe had a point when you saw and had to fight a bunch of terrible monsters, but part 3 made it a black and white dichotomy with Ilias as bad and Alice as good.

I think this was, for some reason, done deliberately, so of course the monsters in Ilias service had to be horrible and evil, both in looks and behaviour. The angels were designed after ancient drawings as eldritch abominations, not to be pleasing to your dick, which is a fundamental flaw in the design process.

At this point, it's clear that Torotoro just stopped caring. It's fairly obvious that he is a pretty huge hack and I wonder how he even managed to write the first 2 games so well, although even the quality of their writing is debatable.

I have also talked with Ecstasy about the code itself before. It's apparently horrible amateur trash. As an example, each time a battle occurs, the entire battle code has been pasted in instead of just making it a function. At least some of the time we have spent waiting for part 3 has been spent fixing that old mess.

>>140865

There are steam VNs like Higurashi that are just translations of classics from japan but I agree, most if not all of the original english language visual novels (oelvn for short, I didn't make up this term) are terrible.

I seriously hope that visual novels never reach the point where they become super popular, I couldn't stand a story that I love becoming the new meme game. Maybe the flood of low quality trash is for the better, buyers unfamiliar with the genre won't be able to differentiate between the "real" VNs and eolvns and I hope they will become convinced that the entire genre of games is terrible and move on.

That way, the waifus would be safe.

>>140811

I want:

-anal scenes, there were only 3 in the original and we deserve more, if I got to choose, I'd want one with a monster girl from your party that hasn't done it before as a cute and clumsy learning experience and one with Alma, since we were promised that in part 1 of the original (>or do you want to try out anal) but it never happened, more would be preferred.

-consensual sex where luka is in charge for once, just to mix things up

-more Luka prostate orgasm action

-some kissing or slow sex with foreplay and shit instead of immediate insertion

-blowjobs where the girls actually take lukas dick in their mouth instead of just nibbling a the tip

-something something sex toys

-dates and lovey dovey stuff, I know monster girls fuck on the first date but some cute romance later on in the character routes would be great

Come on citizens of /monster/, suggest some more, that guy might be Ecstasy in disguise asking us for ideas.

>>140876

Here is one to Ectasy, don't be such a cunt and sperg to your friends.

>>140881

Look at this man. Look at him and laugh.

>>140967

Replace them with more qts and make the eldrich horrors vore monsters that kill rather than cum drinkers, the fact that angels wanted semen is fucking dumb enough as it is.

The shit with promestein was utterly pointless and those monsters should just be scrapped. Chimeras aren't interesting or sexy. The only reason i'd even bother keeping the horrors is because you're not supposed to like them and the game plainly admits it.

>>140975

I thin Promesteins science club is fun and can be salvaged, but the eldritch angels and chimeras need to be thrown out a fucking window.

>>140982

>implying its possible to hate SMT

>>140980

I feel like Illias should stay the bad guy but come off as less retarded.

Ilias should be a villain which you could identify with. She is looking for the /pol/ solution, not immigrating the refugees from hell but just purging them. You encounter examples of monsters that behave like they deserve extinction throughout your journey but still come to disagree with her at the end. Or maybe not, having a single end where you side with Ilias might not be so bad.

Promestien seems more like a candidate for a place in the party to me. She works for Ilias and Black Alice, but reluctantly. All she really wants to do if science without having the world destroyed beneath herself or getting imprisoned again. I don't think she should be a major antagonist at least.

>>140981

>>140983

FUCK OFF

>>140990

To clarify, what I mean is either pay proper homage, or not at all, being ignored is one thing, mockery is another.

sage for editing.

>>140993

Oh, okay.

you went full crusader of buzzwords there.

nah, its not a mockery. All they're doing is combing Japanese mythology with European mythology. The devil in Europe is seen as a goat legged monster that gets people to sin but in Japan he's a sly guy that tricks people into doing what he wants. What you get when you combine them is a sort of evil business man that's slick but also diabolical.

most monstergirls are creatures from European and contemporary myth given a Japanese spin and redrawn in a moe style. Obviously it works otherwise we wouldn't be sitting here shitposting about it.

>>140990

Lol stupid nigger denies templars dindu nuffin when they did a satanic inversion of the lamb of god with a goat demon.

First and flremost Know your witches and your demons and clean house because the house of God is full of inconsistent heretics.

>>140996

>(1)

Did I trigger your atheisms so much that you came in here solely to post that garbage?

3/10 made me reply

>>140995

I disagree, it is a mockery, Japan is majority isolationist and shinto (motive), and while you would think that they are just "combining" mythos and cultural icons with some of their works, in others, like the Everyday life of Satan animes I mentioned, it's quite clear that is a mockery, for what else can excuse the bastardizations of our ideologies?

This for the most part doesn't really have anything to do with MG's, which is mostly just creative like your implying, so lets stop it here, unless you want the last word.

>>140980

>>140981

>>140982

>>140983

>>140988

>>140990

>>140993

>>140994

>>140995

>>140996

>>140999

>>141004

stop derailing the thread

>>141021

?

I just found out that there is a >>>/mgq/ board. It's dead but has a bunch of funny images, so check it out.

>>141050

Sylph is cute, I don't know what your issue is. She has gotten a little better in NG+ and seems like one of the more fun waifus to hang out with.

>>141044

As for me, I will probably go with Tamamo first, because she tells so much trivia in her camp sections and I'm a sucker for lore. I think I'll try all routes, but I'm not sure if all of them will be fun. Erubite and Undine seem pretty unlikable to me and I'm not sure how the Harpy and Kitsue will get meaningful character development, they seem more like side characters for the occasional joke than actual romance options. I'm a little concerned that their story paths will feel forced. No idea who those last 2 hidden characters are, but even if I skip Erubite, Undine, Harpy, Kitsune and Alice because I already played the original and am tired of her, I still have at least 8 if not 10 other routes that seem worthwhile to play.

Replay value seems to be a huge plus on the mod.

>>141080

If you get all the other spirits before Sylph, they will ask you to not get her because she is so annoying and talk shit about her in your head while she isn't in there yet.

I think I also remember a camp scene where Salamader talks about what would happen if a Spirit fell in love with you and I think it involved a "well anyone but Sylph" line.

Sylph seems like a fun girl. A relationship with her would involve lots of wacky adventures and lewd intercourse, she would be more like a best friend/sex friend than someone that is deeply in love with you but I guess any relationship with the physical manifestation of the wind would go that way.

>>141083

Yeah, I remember that line too. When you ask Salamander what would happen if an elemental spirit fell in love with you, she also said something like "who do you like? If it's Sylph I'll lose all respect for you"

That's just more reason to go Sylph for more funny reactions. I want to see their shocked faces when they find out.

>>141090

I am tempted to waifu slyph if only because she was the easiest to get in the part one demo.

But I always wanted to wafiu granberia and the succubus queen whose name I forgot.

>>141105

>because she was the easiest to get in the part one demo

You wot m8? She was the hardest boss of the spirits.

The game will be 6 parts long, so your relationship with any character will only improve slowly, no matter who you pump your affection points and semen into.

I heard that part 4 will be much shorter than 3 though, so the wait for that shouldn't be as long.

I really feel like playing the first 2 parts again at the moment, might start them up again later.

>>141121

I also like that Sylph has a normal human form now, she had one in Part 3 but now it's explained and she uses it more frequently when interacting with people around you.

Not having the spirits bound to your mindspace anymore is a plus, as is giving them more screentime.

Someone once compared the lines the spirits and knights get with those of alice and it was hugely disproportionate. Nice to see this corrected in NG+.

>>138079

>You give Gnome an erotic massage and perform oral on her

I don't think I've ever gotten that, but now I really want it.

>>141537

it's in the demo where you go get the blue orb and fight queen mermaid

>>141537

Also, this scene caused a huge shitstorm in 4chans /mgqg/ when they found it, I'll let you figure out why.

>>141561

>4chans /mgqg/

Nobody likes them anymore anyway.

>>141607

>be god of light

>spend half an eternity protecting and elevating life on earth

>finally reach my goal of creating a species worthy to be my intellectual equals

>suddenly, the gates of fucking hell tear open

>the most disgusting being imaginable (keep in mind that light and dark repulse each other) and her army or demons emerge

>they begin killing, raping and corrupting my wonderful children

>mobilize my servants to fight them

>my world is thrown into chaos

>I'm actually loosing

>use a last ditch effort to save all I have worked for

>threaten a samson option to get the demons to back down

>their leaders disappear, sealed but not gone

>they will show up again if I try to cut out the cancer they left in my world

>spend half an eternity again plotting to solve this situation

>mobilize better army, prepare replacement for my now corrupted work, create scheme to make the demons fight each other, plan to even corrupt my own holy form to gain the strength necessary to defeat their most repugnant creator

>send assassin after their current leader

>suddenly, my assassin thinks he is hot shit and shows up to convince me that the demons dindu nuffin

nah, this isn't happening m8

Hello, I'm a regular user from Ecstasys irc #NG+ on Rizon. We have run into a bit of a problem with the loli Kitsune named Nibi that can join the party after the confrontation with Tamamo in part 1 of NG+.

The issue it that she doesn't seem to be a character that would fit well for a romance route. She is airheaded and childish, which doesn't seem to fit so well for the romance routes. We other chat members came to the conclusion that her route would probably not be very good, so we made up a few possible solutions:

1. Keep her in.

She will either receive more character development or something else to make her more interesting further down the story.

This solution requires Ecstasy to come up with a good way to make her character arc enjoyable and believable, which we chat members couldn't so far. If this solution goes bad, it might result in a badly written or forced romance story.

2. Cut her out.

Since she is already present in parts 1 and 2 as well as in the demo of 3, this solution would require the older parts to be rewritten. Her route would be replaced with that of another character, possibly Nanabi. This would of course be a lot of work and would make all the camp scenes and dialogue with her obsolete.

We came up with a way to salvage what was already there by making a kind of retro-mode. Beating the route of her replacement or maybe just Tamamos route if she gets no replacement would unlock a gameplay mode in which you play NG+ as it is now with Nibi still in it. It would start off with a disclaimer stating that this is an outdated build with a character that was never fully implemented and would end with the last scene involving Nibi.

3. Make her leave the party.

To not cut out all her dialogue but still not make her a main heroine, we thought that she might just leave the party in the Kitsune village. There, she could be replaced by Nanabi or maybe someone else.

Since it felt weird to only have a single party member not get her own route, we expanded upon this idea by thinking up a kind of cover for this, which evolved into the idea of temporary party members.

Instead of having just Nibi join and leave later, there could be other characters that only travel with Luke for a while. This would give fan favourites that weren't chosen to have their own routes a small spot in the limelight, but would still require a bunch of new writing and possibly a rewrite of previous parts to imply that Nibi was a temporary member.

4. Kill her.

I'm just adding this for the sake of completeness, nobody was really behind this idea and it seemed to edgy.

Ecstasy is currently in favour of solution one and the argument has gotten a little heated a this point. I was actually asked to not post this here, but I think that this concerns more than a few fags on irc.

While I can't promise that anything posted here will be considered, maybe some of you have other ideas we haven't thought of or good arguments for some of the alternative options.

To cite the chatlog:

>>Going on a chan to have someone add to a discussion

>why

>>141616

#3 sounds like the best option, loli fags can suck it.

>>141626

>being a tumblr cuck.

>>141634

HEY!

ANON!

LEAVE THEM KIDS ALONE!

:^)

>>141637

No matter how badly your mental illness degrades your mind. Pixels are not and will never be children.

>>141653

Option 3 sounds pretty baller.

2 is good too.

>>141616

How about #1, but instead of making her romancible herself, make her a component for Tamamo's route or something? Like Nibi helps you hook up seriously with loli hag fox.

Assuming it's really that big a deal anyway.

And this opens up a fluffytail heaven threesome.

>>141676

The issue here is that you can pick her but not Tamamo, but having her as a sidekick without her own route could work, she would just unlock a H scene when she is together with Tamamo.

Good idea.

Guys, I might just be a dumbfuck but Undine keeps fucking me up. I have Gnome and Salamander. What do I do?

>>141699

git gud

>>141699

Don't use Salamander unless you re close to delivering the final blow, play slow instead of going for huge attacks until you are almost at the point where she starts healing.

Then use Salamander and nuke her shit because as soon as she starts her flow and healing and your sp go down, you are fucked.

Basically, damage her to as close as you can get before she starts her second phase while having as much sp as you can, use the sp, then summon salamander for more sp, then use those as well to finish her.

>>141699

so, are ya winning son?

>>141735

>Granberia is ass-looking

I don't think I've ever known someone with taste this shit before.

>>141745

Granberia isn't Tsundere you're thinking of Alice or Erubetie.

Granberia is more of a fiery readhead/hotblooded warrior girl.

I can't summon Undine while fighting sylph, it doesn't show Serene mind or Undine in the skills tab for some reason, just Serene demon sword

>>141901

Do you even have her already?

If yes, are you using her from the spirit tab or are you accidentally hitting the serene mind button that works without her (not sure if it's still around after you get her)

If no, does she even show up in your skill list, I'm not sure that's what your post means.

If no, have you ever before been able to summon her?

If yes, try turning the game off and on again or reloading an old safe.

If no, reload an older safe and fight Undine again.

Also, upload the safe with the missing Undine, you can find it in your games safe folder, and explain if you did anything unusual while beating Undine, so Ecstasy can figure out what caused it.

I'm pretty sure he reads this thread, so just upload the safe to mixtape.moe and post it here.

>>141717

>>141914

Ecs said, and i quote

>Tell him to update his shit

>That bug was fixed months ago

>>141914

So, does it work now?

Which spirit and knight do you like the best?

As for me:

Salamander>Sylph>Gnome>Undine

Tamamo>Granberia>Alma>Erubite

>>142065

Salamander>Undine>Sylph>Gnome

Tamamo>Alma>Granberia>Erubetie

>>140238

>Granberia's power didn't go up at all

You might have missed those new attacks and her healing and buffing herself, this wasn't just a copy-paste boss.

>>142360

She doesn't actually use any new attacks (except Starblade on Hell mode).

I've been wondering about something.

So far, the story has been one of progress, Luka is strong and getting stronger and has the knowledge to prevent a bunch of terrible things that would have occurred in the original timeline. But it would be rather unsatisfying if the entire story was sugar and rainbows, wouldn't it?

We still don't know why and how Luka was sent back nor what happened to him after the end of the first game, since his memories of that are damaged. It was stated that strong holy magic would be necessary to send him back, so who would be left to cast such a thing?

Ilias is dead

Lucifina is dead (Unless she is the voice in Lukas dreams)

Micaela used up all her holy powers

Eden is sealed

All other angels that might have been strong enough are sealed as well

There is however one person left that has a huge amount of holy power, is directly related to Ilias and is the strongest holy being around after the end of the original game, that being Luka himself.

Whatever happened after the end of the original game, it was something so terrible that it couldn't be solved with fighting alone and required time travel to unfuck the situation.

Since Luka has lost his memory, this means that whatever that terrible thing was, i's bound to happen again if things go as they are now.

I expect part 3 to reveal some kind of plottwist that will change the story into a different direction. It's currently following the original steps of the story rather closely with little variation, but I really don't expect this to stay that way.

You aren't going to pull the same shit that part 3 did with Tamamo, right? It's very disappointing that you pick the 10/10 loli and she then turns into an old hag even in her ending scene.

Some of the redrawn images could use some touching up, by the way. The old hag Tamamo one, for example, has these poorly redrawn squiggly lines.

>>143407

stop posting animal porn

>>143402

Yeah, and the Granberia CG in the town is super ugly.

The current issue with art is that Ecstasy only has 2 artists for his mod and most of the art is being done by only one of them.

He had two other people that offered art before but they were rejected because of art quality and drama. Ecstasy is picky about art, so he wouldn't accept someone that can't draw for shit, would demand changes in the story as a price for his art (happened) or would act like a huge drama queen in general.

Due to this, the art is his bottleneck and it would be hard to improve issues like that.

This could of course change if someone else were to join the artists.

Any artist that wants to join would have to:

-draw anatomically correct (aka not frfr)

-draw something not disgusting (aka not Delphinus or Xelvy)

-not act like a total tosspot

-overall be able to fucking draw

>>143402

>You aren't going to pull the same shit that part 3 did with Tamamo, right? It's very disappointing that you pick the 10/10 loli and she then turns into an old hag even in her ending scene.

>old hag

>she just has a nice rack

Who the fuck let you out of the oven, Schlomo?

>>143562

On one route you have Ilias and on the other you have Alice.

Other than sword skills they teach you, that's the only difference so far.

Ilias teaches you sword skills you'd learn later as an angel too, so the only real benefit to her so far is that she's way cuter and more waifu-y as a loli than Alice has any hope to be.

>>143574

Apparently, the creator had to draw that one (and Queen Harpy's edit) himself with a mouse after the original "artist" gave him this. http://i.imgur.com/F3SLXSy.png

Maybe it'll get redrawn again later.

>>143683

breast cancer intensifies

>>143622

Yeah, loli-alice is shit, but loli-ilias has made me actually like loli for once.

I can't wait for the translation to be completely done, but that will probably take a year or so.

>>143698

>Loli Ilias

>Only H-scene is literally her pissing on you

Why bother.

>>143717

>As I post the one in the file I see my error

I did not pay enough attention to the game. I'm a retard. Carry on.

>>143622

Ilias acts like a massive cunt and relentlessly berates Luka for no good reason. As someone who knows Japanese, I can tell you that after finishing part 1 Alice's route is actually far more enjoyable.

Does anybody have a list of all of the scenes and how to unlock them? About to start up NG+ and dont want to miss any.

>>143762

Okay, let's do this, I'll write down all of them in part one and two.

There is no way to see affection points, you can only see their effects.

Alice : Accept her advances in the hotel. This will earn you negative affection points with Granberia, so she won't talk to you at the camp until you get her points up again at a later point.

Granberia: Loose to her after doing some serious fighting. If you use edging against her, you will die.

Queen Harpy 1: Loose.

Queen Harpy 2: Solve the conflict without violence and accept the invitation into her tree house at night. This will again earn you negative relationship points with Granberia.

Tamamo 1: Loose against her ancestor form.

Tamamo 2: Gather enough affection points to unlock this scene at the camp.

Alma: Loose.

Salamander 1: Loose

Salamander 2: Choose her as the first spirit to regain and later on make a choice that shows that you like her in the volcano, then you will get this scene after beating her at the camp.

Undine: Loose

Sylph 1: Loose. This scene is special because it's not a bad end, the evaluation text will show you that Sylph actually let you try again after raping you. The game actually keeps track of how often you lost against her, more on this later.

Sylph 2: If you choose to get Sylph first and loose 5 consecutive times against her, you will unlock this scene at the camp. You need to watch the first scene for that instead of just loading saves after being beaten, so enable that skip button for this. (Also, this fight is tough as nails without other spirits, so you will probably get to see that scene more than 5 times, at least it's very hot)

Gnome: Loose.

Erubite: Loose.

Micaela: Not so sure on this one, never unlocked it myself. It's related to the evaluation counter and it probably only counts the evaluations in part 2, because the ones in part 1 are done by Alice. If you are intent on unlocking this, you will need to gather every single evaluation, because there are currently only barely enough encounters in NG+ to unlock it. I know this because I missed one evaluation and locked myself out of it. Evaluations will carry over to part 3 so it should become easier to unlock when it's fully released.

General relationship advice:

Alice likes it if you give into her demands and avoid Kitsunes.

Granberia likes it if you solve issues with violence and don't fuck other monsters.

Tamamo likes it if you solve issues with diplomacy and having her fluffy tail touched, but she will also gain affection from being beaten in her ancestor form. (And I mean beaten, not giving up halfway with that option she gives you after a few turns)

Alma: I'm not sure, but I think she likes it if you are hedonistic and sexual to everything.

Spirits: You sometimes get obvious choices where you can say which spirit you like best, but other than that, no idea.

Minor parts members: No idea, either they unlock affection points through certain subtleties I'm not aware of or there simply haven't been any chances to gain affection them them so far.

Eastereggs:

Granberia actually murders you if you use edging against her in her fight.

Sylph gives up if you get her last and summon all 3 spirits in her presence, then you get a funny scene with her and Gnome.

If you have Tamamo with you and then visit Micaela, something mysterious happens.

If you draw out your fight with ancestor Tamamo too long, she will offer you to stop it, this has no negative consequences unless you accept her offer, in which case you don't get the affection poit and not all of the EXP.

If you use Daystar in hardmode against Granberia, she will use Starblade against you. Surviving this will earn you an achievement. Yes, MGQ has achievements, they just don't do anything and are in the extra menu, so you probably always overlooked them.

There might be more.

>>143775

Oh wow, thanks for writing out all that, I didn't expect that much detail.

>>143777

I couldn't find a good guide so I wrote one myself, screenshot it and post it when someone else asks the same question or put it in a text file.

>>143777

This list will blow up if part 3 ever gets released.

So far, you could get all the sex scenes from the demos simply by loosing, the camp scenes were already unlocked, but this will change in the full release, so there will be a lot more work to do.

>>143758

Yeah, I've played both paths until Iliasport and I had similar experience so far. I'm going to play from the Alice save when they release the next translation patch, Ilias is just annoying most of the time.

>>143789

>>143758

What's the matter boys? Can't handle the bants?

>>143762

>>143775

Which sex scenes did you like best?

I liked the Salamander one.

>>144598

Ririmu and Koakuma had good scenes. Ririmu's the complete opposite of the average MGQ girl, and Koakuma's the complete opposite of the average MGE girl.

Also dat CG

>>144753

Obligatory: Nice OC faggot.

>>141920

The same thing happened to me when I was getting the spirits normally. I downloaded the version advertised on 4chan's mgq /vg/ board's OP

>>144824

>/mgq/

Get it from the blog. The retards on Cuckchan put up an old version and confused everyone.

>>144837

thanks dood

It's kind of a shame I didn't know about the secret scenes and the favor system NG+ had. Now I'm too lazy to start up a new game just to see them.

>>144824

Start over when part 3's released. The game's gonna get like four times as big once it's finally done.

>>144841

I'll replay NG+ soon as preparation for part 3 so I'll just upload my saves.

>>144977

thank you broham

>>145128

It's uploading now.

Sadly, I have no idea what file governs what Monsterpedia entries you have unlocked, so I'm just uploading the whole thing, which is a little over 2 gb.

This copy has all H scenes unlocked that are currently available, but the Mosterpedia still has one locked scene, which is currently impossible to unlock and will be added in the next demo, according to Ecstasy.

I encourage you to actually play the game yourself, but I know myself that unlocking some of the scenes can be a chore, especially the secret Sylph and Micaela scene.

The saves in this are from a Granberia playthrough, but I seriously hope you guys play it all yourself and just use this as a faster way to see some scenes.

I'll post the download link tomorrow, when the upload on my slow as fuck internet is done.

>>144977

>>145128

>>145387

I just found out what files regulate the Monsterpedia entries.

Download this link and put the files into your save folder in your copy of MGQ to unlock all the NG+ scenes.

https://my.mixtape.moe/whzljr.7z

Tell me is something doesn't work.

>>145468

The Monsterpedia entries of NG+ have more effort put into them than the sloppy things ToroToro wrote for part 3, so read them some day, you might just find a little Easteregg in them.

>>145665

>>145682

By the way, it's not a they, it's one dude doing all the programming and writing, with 2 guys making the CGs.

While we are at the topic of speculating about the character routes, how would you write them for some of the other characters?

We have >>139421 as our party members.

The Kitsune was already talked about but what about the others?

I find it hard to imagine stories for Salamander, Undine, Alma, Erubite and Ipeia the Harpy.

Salamander and Undine have too little characterization and I'm not even sure what their characters are supposed to be.

Erubite just seems very angry and borderline insane with her constant wish to block herself and half the continent up, the only way I can see a relationship with her working if she changed. My problem with having her revert back to her old gentle self or similar measures is that it would change her character. I'm not sure if such people exist, but let's say someone goes into NG+ with the wish to romance that angry psycho slime but what he gets in the end is someone entirely different, they might be disappointed.

Alma seems like someone that can't and shouldn’t be tied down. It would mess with her character to have her only love Luka and might mess with the players if she's constantly out to cuck him. See >>136872 for the queen of cheating women though.

Ipeia is a fun character but I'm just not sure how a relationship between the two would develop. Of course it's bad writing practice to have a minimum powerlevel under which no waifus can be considered, but I see the characters of NG+ growing together in battle, which isn't something a weak harpy would be doing.

>>145691

Yeah, I like the fights as well.

In old mgq, they were sometimes a chore to get through because they could only be won by luck, sometimes piss easy because of terrible balancing in part 3 and often just a way for exposition.

In NG+,you have to know what you are doing to win the fights and the new music and attacks also improve things a lot.

While Luka is already pretty OP, I don't think that he will receive a power-down in the mod again, I rather expect him to grow even more throughout the later parts.

>>145699

Keep in mind that not every route has to end in a sappy romance story.

I think Granberias route would just be coming to respect and like Luka. They will fight together, best monsters, angels and goddesses and grow closer that way.

A relationship with Granberia would be travelling around the world, saving the weak, fighting the strong, beating the bad guys into submission and having sparring matches every day.

Granberia doesn't seem like someone that would see Luka as the love of her life, but as her greatest comrade. Maybe those things are equivalent for Dragons.

The two would change the most alpha children ever.

As I said in the part talking about Erubite, I don't like the idea of changing fundamental parts of the already established characters, so I'm thinking of ways in which a relationship with the characters we already know could work. This involves not always assuming pure love as the only solution and making Luka change throughout the relationship instead of his partner.

>>145718

I beat Undine with only Salamander, she isn't that strong.

Gnome>Undine>Salamander>Sylph

You need to learn when to play aggressive and when to be defensive. Daystar isn't the only weapon at your disposal.

I'd do it this way:

1. Find out what what point she starts her healing phase

2. Get her close to it while maintaining relatively high HP and at least 4 sp

3. Summon Salamander, you should have both Gnome and Serene Mind up at this point

4. Toast her ass with Ninefold Rakshasa, which is pretty strong when powered up by Salamander plus and other special moves your remaining sp allow

>>145717

Was this created before or after mudpussy?

>>145737

Ignore either the plus or the and in that last sentence, I really should go to sleep now.

>>145737

i did what you said and it didn't work.

Once she uses serene mind you can't hit her with nine fold rakasasha and if you use demon whatever it doesn't do enough damage to kill her so she heals and you run out of SP then you become worm food.

I've been doing this bullshit for 40 minutes now, I just want to move on already.

>>145789

nevermind finally managed to get lucky.

wew, i'm fucking doomed aren't I?

>>145789

>>145792

IIrc you could use Flash Kill to knock her out of Serene Mind.

>>146032

>characters just aren't likely to want to do anything with Luka.

Isn't that half the fun though? It would be interesting to see just how the fuck someone like Alma or Erubetie could end up with someone like Luka, and what that would be like.

>i cant develop a character because im too close-minded to see any way that characters can change in their life

>>143574

The redrawing is still pretty obvious. Her crotch in particular stands out.

Anyway like I was saying, pulling the bait and switch shit with Tamamo should be avoided. If the player chooses to get into a relationship with a loli, it's fucking stupid to swap her out for an old hag at the last moment. Same goes for the other way around; I doubt anyone that goes for an old hag would want her to turn into a loli suddenly.

Instead of doing something stupid like part 3 did and have her turn old if you choose her ending, keep her a loli or leave it up to player choice. The latter works well considering Tamamo's character too, since she's more than happy to tease Luka about being into loli.

>>143756

This looks better, though the lines still stand out some from the original artwork.

>>147754

She has two forms, why not just have a few sex scenes in loli mode and a few in hag mode?

Maybe make it so that in the final scene, you can decide if you want loli or hag.

I don't see the issue to be honest, of course part 3 did the character endings wrong, just like it did everything else wrong, but I don't think Ecstasy would have her in only loli or hag mode.

If you have played her route in the parts that are out, you get one rape loss scene in hag mode and one consensual tailjob in loli form, so it's already balanced.

>>146666 (hail mega satan)

It could be interesting but it could also come out as very forced and unfitting for the characters.

>>143944

Wait what the hell is that image on the computer screen from?

>>148658

Boku no Quest

>>143944

Remember when the Beelzebubs were still the worst thing in mgq?

Part 3 made them look sexy in comparison.

>>148759

TT's general MO seems to be just 1-upping the grossness with every game, instead of actually giving people what they've been asking for for years.

>>144774

Does anyone have the mexican edit of this where alice has a mustache, sombrero, and burrito?

>>151682

>I mean I prefer my protags to be like Rance

Too bad

>is it possible to enjoy these games for me?

Probably not

>are there waifus that genuinely love the protag?

Kinda

Saged because >>141005

>>151749

Well fuck, if I'm to assume that Monstergirl Quest is the player's choice here, I guess I don't belong in this board. Unless I'm completely in the dark about some other things I should know?

Thanks for making me notice >>141050 though.

>>151657

it's on this board >>>/mgq/

along with some other funny pictures, 8chan won't let me upload them

Blog seems to be down.

>>151788

I can access it, try again.

No new blog posts are there anyway, if you want the download link, here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/m8mogbujfmxlyei/NG%2B+Part+3+Demo+Update+2.zip

What's the lore behind Luka going after other chicks after having his life reset instead of trying to fix everything back to normal?

>>152072

I wonder if there will be a route to return to the original timeline.

If you have some free time, you can help dargoth with his paradox trasnlation

https://dargothtranslations.wordpress.com/2016/02/29/i-really-need-editing-help/

>>152103

Okay, let's assume that this were to happen and let's assume that this return works like timetravel in Steins;Gate, meaning that Lukas memories from the new timeline would overwrite his from the old one. I think this would be a very confusing experience for Alice and the other people around him since he would suddenly wake up with a changed personality and I'm not sure if their relationship would be able to deal with that.

I really don't think this will happen, read >>143202

Whatever happened in the future was so fucked up that it warranted timetravel to fix, I'm pretty sure Luka is back of his own volition, since sending him back against his will would make little sense. If some angel was trying to save Ilias, she would just go back herself, sending Luka back with all his OP powers would just make everything much harder for Ilias to solve.

My personal guess is that Alice the first woke up.

>>152188

I guess I just feel bad that after the end of part 3 everything seemed to work out for Luka and his friends and now he's got to do it all over again.

>that spoiler

wasn't alice the first comparable in strength to Illias? Or was she stronger? If its the latter then I guess that would make sense that no one in that timeline was strong enough to beat her

>>152326

>you find out that all the people he helped, trusted and fought with would gladly take the chance to make him their personal sex slave

Yeah, that's the thing that bothers me the most.

They can only really address this whole issue when they fix all of the bad writing that Illias suffers from, as I talk about here >>140980

I can't wait to see just where exactly they take ng+.

>>152326

>might seem happy if you think about it

I assume you mean don't think about it, but I get what you are saying.

I thought that if you reject all of them Tamamo mentions that the purpose of the seduction was a test of his love for Alice?

>>152445

I do think this could be a chance to flesh out Illias as a character. Making her closer to the law ideology of SMT would make her more relatable.

>>152574

>like TT wasn't sure how to make up a believable continuation of the romantic subplot and instead went all "tell don't show" on the readers.

So its been a few years since I played MGQ, I'm pretty sure Tamamo was someone who was pushing for Luka and Alice, but of the three parts I remember part 3 the least aside from the ending. Who else was pushing for them to get together?

>Even if you put in that little throwaway line from Tamamo, it doesn't make the whole thing much better and the monsters seem like terrible people for agreeing to it.

Well to be fair some were more hesitant than others to agree to it, but Tamamo did tell them that Luka and Alice were already married and she would be okay with anything that happened. As for being terrible people it seemed like the thought process to the monster girls is that if the seduction succeeded than Luka's willpower and love for Alice were extremely weak and they could have free reign on him. That's what I got as the point of that whole ending sequence.

>Imagine some fox bitch came by your door and said: "Okay, remember that guy that saved your life. I want you to flirt with him hard and then make him into a sex slave if he agrees."

well if we want to be completely accurate she would be a fox loli bitch in this scenario, in her defense she is pretty much a surrogate mother for Alice. I saw it as an overprotective mother not fully trusting her daughters fiance and trying to trap him.

> I prefer to ignore the implications this has for the character of my favourite knight, Granberia.

Well if I remember correctly she was hesitant to do it but agreed to it after being begged to by Tamamo.

>>152588

Like I said, its been some time since I played the game.

>>152606

It's an RPG maker game, do you really think this is what people were asking for when they said they wanted more MGQ?

>>152606

if it has sex scenes im all for it

>>153208

Why not? Just because it's RPG maker? If anything it's an improvement over the NScripter VN format. It has a more open world, a party system, more complex combat and other RPG stuff. If you don't like that, then it's probably not what you were asking for, but I like more developed gameplay.

>>154239

So ecs how's the demo coming along? :^)

>>156656

Kraken already has two scenes. So she may get a third one.

>>157599

>Kraken already has two scenes

You what?

How do I unlock the second one?

>>157733

You have to surrender to her or lose to the water attacks. No CG, though.

>>152097

Paradox is fun.

>>157965

I agree

>>158015

me too

I don't even get why that would be weird

stop liking what I don't like?

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