As we all know on here, /monster/ thrives on OC. And while we have a good collection of stories and CYOA's, we are seriously lacking in the department of drawfags. Too many post in the drawthread general are flooded with requests, and we simply don't have enough artists to do them. Hence why I am making this thread: To not only help you want to learn how to draw, but also how to get better at it. This thread will be for posting tutorials, hints, tips, and critiques of your art work. I will be posting several very handy places and resources you can use. If anyone finds anything other tutorial, specifically on drawing actual monster girls, feel free to share. The whole point of this thread is to help people create more OC and art to help /monster/ thrive
Learning How To Draw:
A perfect guide for tutorials and helpful tips.
A wonderful board here on 8chan. Many threads have useful tips and tutorials to help you out.
While the board is mostly dead, these threads may be of some use to you, as there are monster girls in them.
If you really want to talk in depth about drawing techniques, this is where you should look. Deviantart is useless honestly, as ConceptArt will legit help you get good, as many artists here are professionals and/or just really good.
So remember, if you are serious about actually wanting to draw and helping /monster/ grow, check this thread out! It will save your life
One important detail: If you are already an artist who draw monster girls and you want to help other artists on here learn how to draw them, feel free to contribute and make tutorials for everyone. Remember: /monster/ thrives on OC, so the more OC we have, the more Ammit-Chan will be happy for all of us
Thanks anon. We renaissance now.
Same. I posted in the meta thread asking Aux for one
Some other handy places:
A fantastic artist on Youtube with great insight into how to draw and even how to learn shading, coloring, and other useful drawing techniques. Most of his art is western based.
Many of you know him as an artist who drew a lot for GamerGate, but he's mostly known for his Monster Girl comic series. No real tutorials, but its a perfect inspiration place for you.
Mostly just reblogs things from other artists. However it is still a great collection of monster girl art.
Also try looking up speedrawing videos on Youtube. They can be plenty useful, specially if you want your art to be more anime influenced
Is there anything for people that only have tablets or smartphones?
Like drawing tablets or tablets like iPad's?
Tablets like ipad.
But I only got android smartphone.
If you have a good drawing app and a pen for your iPad you can defiantly use it. Phones I'm not so sure about. I'll be honest, you're better off investing in a drawing tablet. Most artists recommend buying Wacom tablets,though you might have to shill out at least $70 or more for a good one, its worth the investment.
Being a poorfag, that's gonna take awhile.
Should I just draw on paper and snap pictures in the meantime?
Thanks for the sticky Aux!
I mean there's some decently cheap ones on amazon and ebay.
>I mean there's some decently cheap ones on amazon and ebay.
I'll check it out.
If you do see one on Ebay, make sure to look it up to see reviews on it.
Start in traditional. It's a lot easier to get a good grasp of (here's a word you're gonna learn to hate) fundamentals. There's an immediate feedback in drawing traditionally, as it's very direct and you can feel the medium in your hand. It's less forgiving, certainly, but that'll teach you to plan your strokes.
Speaking of traditional media, draw in everything you can. Graphite, Charcoal, Paint, Ink, Markers, Crayons, everything. Experiment and find out what you like.
If you're really committed, THEN start spending money on hardware. Remember: It's an investment. And make sure you know what you're getting. I got a shitty intuos some years ago and it's barely 5 x 7 inches of draw area (I like using my WHOLE ARM) and that purchase has bit me in the ass more times than I can count. You can still work with it, but it feels atrociously tiny.
If you wanna forego a "Next-Gen" console, Yiynovas are a solid Cintiq knock-off I hear.
I only have line paper and start for now til I get better materials, in time I'll get a tablet and post.
Probably gonna take a few months before I can get one.
Thought I'd share something to start the thread even though I'm not good at drawing in the slightest.
I've been learning how to draw in my free time for about 2 months or something like that, pic related is some figure drawing I did in an hour or two. I want to recommend to everyone who's "I can only do stick figures" tier the book "Drawing on the right side of the brain". It starts a bit weird with some right brain/left brain stuff but then it gets really good, and ends up giving you a lot of confidence about learning more about drawing.
poses are very good start, most people dont start with references and go with established templates ei anime poses and whatnot.
hopefully the board ends up learning how to draw their own waifus in the near future.
That's the gameplan
You will wanna move away from lined paper soon.
As for practice, figure drawing is usually the go-to for people starting out, so I'll provide some of those.
The idea is not to draw the model exactly, but to get the idea of how to ensure the 'gesture' or flow of the body well.
That may not be the best place to start though. One thing about /furry/ that we can admire, though, is that they're not short on giving out resources for prospective artists.
One of the ones that really stands out to me is DrawABox. It's got some very, very good lessons and instructional guides. CtrlPaint also has a decent video series, but that's geared more toward digital.
Youtube has a plethora of information as well, some standouts include Proko, Sycra, Tent Kaniuga, Scott Robertson (I love how he does perspective, and he works mostly in traditional media, so I recommend him strongly), and many, many others.
Pull from as many resources as you can, and whatever happens, be consistent and practice every day. Don't measure by the clock, but the calendar.
I've only been practicing about once a week without doing any studies (can't commit due to time constraints) since about September of last year, and while I don't feel like I've improved, I can see it when I draw. Judge for yourself if you like.
Not bad at all sir. Cute expression!!
Im honestly terrible with tablets and digitally rendering. Once i can try an iPad with the penicl that may change im not entirely sure.
What do you lads think of my shoggoth?..
Criticize my night stalker gal.
Its absolute shit anon for the love of god keep working on it but i wont lie, i would just burn that piece of crap if i were you.
having said that, no hate, try to keep improving, you are now at average deviantart/furaffinity artist.
Get better please
Also fallout, completely autistic, stop that
I archived this from over a year ago from /co/ when it was super comfy. Most of the links still work in it so go out and get practicing.
I smell loomis.
Might wanna ditch the signature, only deviantart noobs use them.
Until you have a following that is.
I appreciate the resources, thanks. What's wrong with lined paper though?
You have to work on them proportions, features on the face look weird and are also weirdly placed. I recommend this book right here: https://www.goodreads.com/ebooks/download/147941.Figure_Drawing_for_All_It_s_Worth
The trademark mannikins gives it away too easy.
What should I start with if I absolute dogshit at drawing, especially when it comes to living things?
I fucking love fairies.
Honestly? Just start. Your first thousand drawings are gonna suck no matter what. Just gotta put in the time.
It's why it's good to start things as a kid because you don't realise how shit you are for the early years.
What about if your drawings are absolute trash and you tend to quit things out of shame?
then you wont be able to draw your waifu ever. You have to do it for her.
Just review what you hate and learn form it.
You gotta power through it.
>tfw you can't draw your waifu because someone might find that drawing and then you would have to kill yourself
If someone sculpts a waifu I can paint it pretty well I gues, but otherwise I think I'll stick with Writefaggotry….
Why bother trying to do art if you know you are inherently shit at it?
Even if you do practice, you'll probably never be good enough.
>tfw everything I ever made gets thrown into the trash for not meeting very high personal standards
Dude you may think that you lack talent but what if I tell you that somethink like talent doesn't exist and all the good artists worked for their skills.
Everyone is shit at the start, some people just have to practice more than others, so practice more and fuck the haters even if you're one of them.
do it for your waifu
>want to draw people properly
>need to learn anatomy for that
>want to get better because my skeletons look like they are made out of play doo
>practice drawing heads
>hate drawing heads because I'm not good enough yet
Drawing is a big loop of fuck you if you can't into biology or at least drawing somewhat properly from the beginning.
>not hiding it to fuck
Do you even into powerlevel hiding?
Because it's fun and useful for a weeb.
>throwing drawings out
You fucking autist, don't throw them out, keep them. Do that shit where you keep your shit drawings, keep practicing and then compare your newer drawings to your old ones. They'll be relatively less shit, so you'll get motivated.
*>want to get better beforehand
The point is I don't have places to hide them.
you can always give me some tips
>inside a book
I don't know, just put it somewhere people don't look for normally.
Or, if you're willing to go full autist, do a hidden outlet compartment and put it in there.
That won't do, sometimes my father helps me to clean my room because I don't even know why and he cleans every fucking corner I'm always scared that he will find my weed.
And the thing with books also won't do because in my house people read books so eventually someone will pickup THAT book.
What about the outlet?
>Learning How To Draw
I would, but I'm already learning Japanese in my spare time.
someone's gotta translate them doujins in 5 years
I don't think that this amount of paper will fit in anywhere.
Well, shit. Try googling for hidden compartments, there might be one that fits.
How's yer bed look like?
Does it have a box-spring? You can hide shit in the box-spring, have access from below and shit. I did it when i was a kid with porno mags and nobody ever found out.
>Does it have a box-spring?
No it doesn't.
I have to move out
Just remove your parents.
**that's serbian, right?
I don't know then, my polan friend.
Tape them under your desk or some shit, tell your dad to fuck off and clean your room alone. Why the fuck would a father do this? I mean, i've always cleaned my room alone. And most of the time involved me closing the door and keeping it a shithole for a while until mom found out about it. Thus entering a vicious circle. But my mom never dared to adventure into that land of dirty clothes and coat-hangers.
My father likes to have everything his way. I can hide the paper in my guitar, fucking genius.
Ok, let's stop shitposting on this thread.
How do you keep going if whatever you draw disgusts you enough to want to quit?
Just believe you can do it. I feel the same way when i try to draw, try telling yourself i know i can make this good. Repeat it if you have to. Juzt dont give up. Do it for yourself. Do it for your waifu
Ask those people who make thousands off of furries. :^)
What you see and what the public perceives, are entirely different matters. You might be unsatisfied with your skills, nitpicking everything and strive to get better. I'm a beast-like retarded midget who can't avoid soiling his pants whenever I try to talk, and the drawings look good enough, or at least I see they keep getting better.
think about it like this; you may not like what you see, but remember that literally every artist ever had to start in the same position you're in right now. if you want it to look better, then just keep at it mate. you're always improving even if you don't see it; plus, remember that one man's trash is another man's treasure. you might not like your work, but someone else out there might look at it and think "huh, that's pretty cool."
dont sweat the small details right away. just draw what makes you happy and see where you can go with it. look up tutorials, ask people for criticism, etc. don't buy into the whole "draw every single day" bullshit some people say is "crucial" to getting gud. that's a sure way to make yourself feel even worse and just stress yourself out. draw when you feel like drawing, but do try to keep a habit of it so you don't fall rusty.
and don't be afraid to experiment. occasionally wandering out of your comfort zone every so often is a good way to help familiarize yourself with things and get a better grasp on what you like. what you want your work to look like, what techniques work and what feel like shit, that kind of thing. just dont beat yourself up too much if the results aren't that great, it's called experimenting for a reason; plus you'll learn something useful either way regardless, so it's pretty much a win/win.
drawing is a tedious craft my man. it's a talent honed through lots of blood, sweat and tears and the occasional self-loathing. but you'll get better, believe me. we all had to start somewhere.
You gotta move out, pal. You gotta do it. A man needs his privacy.
Good. Now make Ammit-Chan proud anon
Funny how just the other day I started doing drawabox exercises.
I'm not what I consider to be a decent drawfag yet, but I'll help to contribute OC to /monster/ whenever it needs it!
>I'm not what I consider to be a decent drawfag yet, but I'll help to contribute OC to /monster/ whenever it needs it!
Hopefully we get futachitsu-onna OC soon as a result.
Yes, don't throw out your old art. Practice long enough and you'll get decent. Keep practicing and get good. Just learn to have fun.
Then at one point you'll get lazy and start half-assing everything.
So I managed to find some simple drawings I made that I haven't thrown away yet.
One is a non-living thing sketched on paper about a year back. The other is a ms-paint drawing from the tower girls draw thread.
Please tear them apart and tell me exactly how much I suck.
>get told that I need to start drawing shapes instead of trying to draw it all at once
>try copying some random drawing
>kinda wonky but looks better than my last drawings
>none of them looks as good as the ones I did while not paying attention to what I was doing
I wonder if I should try drawing drunk and see if I get better.
The first one is lacking proper perspective, but has that "there was an attempt" feeling.
The second one is all kinds of fucked up though.
I'd recommend reading perspective made easy, if you haven't already. It really helped me and would unfuck the first pic.
(I drew >>139376 so you better take this next advice with a grain of salt)
For the second one you need to learn about about anatomy and shit. I'm going to
learn how to draw a skeleton, learning about the placement of the bones -> learn about muscles, their placement and how they move -> learn how skin works and everything else in the body
It makes sense to learn it this way because each part helps the next(E.G. "the eye socket is here, so the eye should look like this") so I'd recommend you learning it this way after learning about perspective and whatnot. Unless a drawfag comes and tells me I'm wrong and a retard.
Uh, I'm no DaVinci, but I remember some basics of perspective. I could put together a tutorial or something if people want.
Go ahead and do that, sure.
Looking for critique before I put to much time into it
its flipping when i open it but the proportions for the head seem off but maybe I'm losing it. pose and torso look great tho, better than i can do.
>try to draw vampire girl
>end up with skyrim orc with fangs
Other than the nigger lips and my complete lack of knowledge about anatomy, is there anything wrong on the pic?
I-I'll start studying tomorrow, I promise
Hey, that's pretty good
das it mane
that board needs all the love.
Will do a redline later if you don't mind. It's a good start, but the joints are wonky in general.
I don't mind at all, knock yourself out fam
Don't worry bro, we're all gonna make it some day
Right, let's see. Not an expert here, but I'll try. Anyone with more experience, feel free to call me a retard. Also disregard the legs, I suck at them.
First off, her arms are disproportionate. Her left lower arm looks way longer than the upper arm, and vice versa for the right arm. I'd also recommend you watch out when drawing big meaty paws like Hellhound's, all the fur and shit gets in the way and makes it hard to parse the right dimensions.
Second, rule of thumb says that males have hips roughly as wide as their shoulders; females' hips are noticeably wider. Between the proportions and the short boyish haircut, this hellhound here could pass for a dude with tits.
Third, add some more meat to your limbs. Use curves more often, don't make them look like sticks.
Finally, the face looks pretty good, although I notice you're lifting the expression straight out of KC's book. Only things to mention is that the ears look a little mangy, and that Hellhound doesn't quite have croc teeth. Aside from that, I'm really digging the posture and I see you're trying to into perspective. Hoping to see you get better, nigga.
Also, dumping some WIP I've had hanging lel around for way too damn long. If any of you goyim want to rate or give comments, I'd appreciate it like you wouldn't believe. I just feel bad about posting porn on /loomis/.
I may not be a decent artist yet but here's some guides that might help anyways.
First one is more of a bait image, still useful to remember if you want to imitate older anime art.
Ay thanks man.
Yeah I often fuck proportions like that up. The problem here is I never do an outline first, but rather just jump right into the details and whatnot.
I never heard of that rule of thumb before, so thank you for mentioning it. Up until recently I only drew military type stuff and it almost always included males, so drawing feminine characters is a nightmare for me.
I went with the croc teeth and mangy ears on purpose, same with the short hair. Just wanted to give something else a shot instead of a direct copy-paste. But I don't really think the face is all that good, it just kinda looks wrong to me. When I draw it up-close it looks fine pic related, first thing in anime style I ever drew, but it was basically a copy-paste of something .less made and I just changed the girl. But when I'm drawing something and the head is further away it just looks off. I can't exactly place it.
I'll be sure to re-do it with your outlines once I have more time. Got plenty of real life cuckery ahead, hopefully I won't call it quits and join the military.
I have a fuck load of pictures like that, but it's unorganized to fuck, should I post them on mega?
I'm only recently starting to get the hang of faces and want to eventually draw Monster girls.
Can you guys give me advice on my art?
Is my style any good?
keep it up buddy. looks like you had quite the improvement there.
Hmm, do you recognize my ID from a previous thread?
considering she's upside-down, the girl's breasts should be affected by gravity a lot more unless her top is magical or something
i'm not a drawfag, but i saved them anyway
also oh god that poor girl's spine on the far right in the anatomy rotation gif
just deducted from your scan filename. since the former picture is less complex than the latter.
My advice to you is stop. You have no foundation and you're falling into the anime trap where you simply don't have an understanding of basics and want to emulate something
You're essentially trying to build a car with very little knowledge as to how they work. But because you see them every day it cant be that hard.
GO back to basics, use simple shapes to build things, then when you think you know that, go back and study again. then can study living things then make things from imagination.
loomis is a good basics teacher, heres all his works for free http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/
Between those three links you'll see massive art gains assuming you pay attention, and take it seriously
and we have some decent art boards which is good
>but i want to draw muh animu
all houses still need a proper foundation or they'll fall apart.
honestly that's my advice to almost everyone in these threads. You all have next to no idea what your doing
She can't use the size of her tits as an excuse either, looks like a fucking centaur.
ok i caved and I'm trying to relearn how to draw from the ground up and i just did 10 pages of trying to make straight lines and could barely manage by the end. this is going to take a while and my possibly arthritis is getting in the way already.
this is going to be a struggle but i have to at least get to decent sketch levels before I'm anywhere near happy with myself
fuck circles, how the fuck do i make these and also keep my hands from exploding?
sagearoony for not super on topic
this is exactly what i need thanks m8
Try doing a circle, going around multiple times. It helps with muscle coordination or some shit like that.
Been a /monster/ drawfag for a while.
I've gonna explain how to improve your drawing skills while also (potentially) creating your own style.
>Draw the same thing over and over. That's all for your first step. Sounds simple right?
Choose a head, eye, something of your choice to draw, and just draw it over and over again.
Let's say you choose to draw an eye. I want you to fill up an entire paper with eyes. (Do it from memory if you want, this helps build style)
The more you draw an eye, the more it gets jotted into your memory as something instinctual. Before you know it, drawing eyes are childsplay you can draw them even without thinking and it takes you only seconds when it took you minutes before.
Repeat this as much as you are able, and once you feel like you can sketch a full body in less than hour you are ready to enter the next step. Posing and body structure.
I'm at this stage right now, so I can't give much help as to what I'm currently learning, but I do have one thing
>Slopes make anything dynamic
If you want to show action, nothing works better then sloped lines. Look at some dynamic posing, and look at a character's shoulders, more then likely they aren't perfectly horizontal. When someone's moving, no part is going to stay perfectly vertical/horizontal. Keep this in mind while drawing poses.
Hope this helps, I'm not one for explaining stuff well, but I did what I could.
Had to cut it to get it to fit.
> i just did 10 pages of trying to make straight lines
Nigger just get a ruler. if you need straight or perfect shapes & lines just get a compass/ellipse tool/ruler no need to over complicate the matter.
you can get good at straight lines after you get good at drawing. you're just wasting time & effort punching that brick wall.
Please don't do this till you have a foundation and learn to "see" and properly use reference
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
the idea is more developing better control without the use of tools. I'm not doing this to make straight lines I'm doing it because its a simple way of making my control better and building muscle memory. and I'm already getting better at it so I'm happy.
Finally re-done it, followed your redlines as much as I could.
You see, you don't need to follow the redline to a tee, it's more of a guideline to help you see where you messed up because I'm not a professional in any way and my drawings still have plenty of issues.
For instance, the neck could stand to be more slender than that, and the head, just a bit lower. I'm kinda shit at legs so maybe you shouldn't pay much heed to this, but I think the lower legs are just a bit thicker than they should, they should taper off more noticeably around the foot joint. It also looks like the upper left leg is longer than it should.
The left arm is kinda broken, and the left hand is way too flat. However, the right arm looks sexy as fuck, good work on the curves.
The head looks fairly nice IMO, maybe just make the nose a bit more subtle. And now I can't help but see the titty monster's facial expression, kill me.
Professional or not, you can't say you don't have the right idea. If your drawings have any issues they aren't very noticeable. The redline did a good job showing me where exactly I screwed up and it seemed like a good idea to follow it. I noticed a lot of other crap, not just the weird proportions like the shoulders for example, they're nowhere near as exclaimed in the first attempt as they are in the second.
Not really /monster/ related, but this is the one with the most users, so… Does anyone have that pic showing the differences between the skeleton of both sexes?
So let's just say I want to practise my drawing skills a little. Do you happen to have any guides on how to draw eyes (both animu and western style) and faces?
So let's just say I want to practise my drawing skills a little. Do you happen to have any guides on how to draw faces and eyes (both animu and western style) in particular?
FOR FUCK'S SAKE HOTWHEELS
Speaking of which – for those who can't post because CAPTCHA is broken:
>go to captcha veryfication page
>right-click "view page source"
>scroll left until you see Base64 hash link in BOLD RED
>click view in another tab to see the picture
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Hey, I'm "artist in the making", thanks for ITT, I knew of those boards.
(That is I even attend the art class, albeit right now only crawling I clearly see some improvenments, it's paid so nothing like really attending the proper school, I'm a mentally fucked up NEET so I have TOO MUCH FREE time, still for some reason can't find zeal to draw something on my own, ehh)
I think my favourite take on "Monster Girl" (not that I'm really much aware of the fandom, sadly) is definitely that of Monmusu Quest, because those are most monstrous and not barely humans looking like cosplayers (sometimes I have such a feeling, ala Pokémon gijinka), even tho some designs are Eldritch Horror tier.
Now I'd like to draw casual fantasy (NWC M&M style, my fav universe), in mixed anime/eastern animation style. My aim would be obviously, to popularise Slavic mythology a bit more, as it's really unappreciated, save for well… Witcher (which is not perfect - for example their "skellington spider" - Koschei, or duplication of Vodyaniks, but dude had great aim in popularising fantasy in my homeland aswell as using some Slavic monsters in it) and some Oriental Fantasy settings like Ragnarok Online or SMT/Megaten. Would that be problem for any of you here to publish such things? I won't try to make it exaggeratedly fetishised (something I dislike, I don't want to be lewd), but obviously it will include some female specimen. I can even try to draw some proper mg from time to time as long as it will look "monster" enough.
As I've seen one thread being fans of Isaac Horn, I'm not really sure. Some of those are borderline furry, that's something I'd like to omnit. Find the "golden mean" between fantasy/mythology and that.
(… Honestly, what's with those "Sidhe" types in MGE?)'
PS. Is someone here aware of any archive working with 8chan, that is including /monster/ board? The SM Youma thread unfortunately died, and others I'd like to see again, such cases for a faster featured board.
I knew of 8archive.moe, that is I think it was the one, but it's eternally "will be back soon".
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY DO THE LEGS HAVE SO MANY MUSCLES
LOOK AT THIS BULLSHIT. IT'S NOT LIKE A GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANY OTHER MUSCLE THAT ISN'T THE ASS AND THIGHS
The legs have to prop up the rest of the body. It's necessary to have lots of muscles.
Lucky for you dozens of monstergirls don't even have legs.
Drawing the Head and Figure by Loomis gives a really good breakdown of the proportions of the head and face.
For anime, try to get your hands on the How to Draw Manga books that were released in the early to mid 2000's, especially Getting Started, Female Characters, and Bishoujo-Pretty Girls. These three all have great breakdowns of the facial compositions common in anime, with special emphasis on the eyes.
Word of warning, avoid the new HtDM books, they're cancer.
I'll see if I have any hidden on my computer but in the meantime, look for torrents.
Are there any starter's guides on tablet use?
What exactly are you looking for? How to actually draw on a tablet, or do you want to know what tablet to start out with on the first place? >>>/loomis/1338 might be of use to you.
>No one making OC
It's the end times
How to use it, I mean.
If I get over some physical and mental health bullshit that's standing in the way, I'll probably contribute.
i have been drawing boxes and shit for a week, give me a break, wait atleast 6 moths and if seriously NOBODY posts their shitty oc, then the thread was a fail, but i started from zero so i cant draw a cute lamia yet
But you just made OC for us now.
Is it OC?
And c'mon, Barbariank has been confirmed as browsing this board as of late, so it's hard to really say something like that.
Yeah it was just a quick sketch before I tried more drawing. Still glad that Barb did that but this board needs more OC coming in I need my monstergirl fix god damn it.
Oh man, I haven't slept in a while.
What's better than sleeping?
KEEP IT UP ANONS.
Took your advice. Have a spider girl. Really useful guides.
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Nice pose, but those lower legs look rail-thin and that index finger is some Salad Fingers shit. Head might also be too wide, but I like where you're going with this overall.
Can't tell much due to the image quality and the slant, but I'd say that head is also too wide (although the face itself looks good enough), and those arms look kinda offputting. They're way too thin, and the distance between her shoulders isn't symmetrical at all. Definitely the weakest part, but on the other hand, the rest of the torso, the hips and the legs are looking good to me.
The breasts also need some work, but this video should help you out with that better than I probably could.
Thanks for the video, I thought I'd also say that the videos of the quick poses of real people is much more useful than a lot of the 3D models. Well me personally. For daily sketching especially.
kripplekike fix the captcha=
What's the point of trying any of this if you know you're going to suck?
Unless you already have a modicum of talent, it seems like a wasted investment to bother trying.
For the sake of building talent.
>Unless you already have a modicum of talent, it seems like a wasted investment to bother trying.
That's such a cuck thing to say.
Sure, some people are naturally talented, but more often than not it comes down to sitting down and building up your skills. It takes time and you'll hate yourself for the mistakes you make, but you'll feel quite nice when you see the improvement. Most of all, you need to want it. If you don't like drawing in general, THEN there's no point in even trying. So ask yourself, do you want to make lewd pictures of you and your waifu holding hands and raising your children? If the answer is yes, then pick up the closest pencil and go draw some shitty art, then do it again and again later on until it's less shitty.
Why bother drawing anyway?
Drawings and art ultimately have no intrinsic value. There's no real point to even do it.
Anon, half the shit humans do has no intrinsic value. What's the intrinsic value of you being a mopey sack of dicks here? If we only cared about what is useful, what would separate us from machines? Stop being a nihilistic manlet cuck and go draw something.
If anything it'll help you keep your mind off how horrible life is, speaking from personal experience here
Mr. Aussie, why shitpost on /monster/ when you could be fapping to the thought of eating out qt non-aboriginal drop bear girls instead?
I've been practicing trying to draw the same face from different angles, but its particularly hard. Anyone have any tips or guides?
I come baring gifts from a forgotten hero.
Here's more of his stuff that I think always bears repeating.
Back again with another spidder grill.
I used the the videos if speed sketching and expanded. Next I'm going to start on my milfy secretary Hakutaku. Such chestpillows
>How'd I do tho?..
>liked to draw sexy/qt grills when i was 11 or so
>have the messiest room ever
>go to friends for a sleep over one day
> come back home, room is spotless
>start to play oblivion when my mom walks in
> "What's this?
>pic related but with boobs the size of her torso
I have lost my motivation ever since then…
Oh anon, if you could see the goofy shit I drew when I was younger….
you should think more of seperating cranium and face and the hair should accentuate the ballshape of the cranium, wrapping around it
her limbs are pretty out of wack proportion wise, too (I'll just assume being chubby is intentional)
and these are just the most glaring anatomical mistakes I can spot, even as a layman
It's really sad to look at my older work and realize it's better than my newer attempts. I have a bad habit of dropping my shit for months at a time.
I'm thinking of getting into drawing since I got a tablet with a drawing pen, so I thought I'd start with something simple, colouring this alp image.
Advice/feedback on doing better next time? I'm looking to actually start proper drawing using these guides soon, but I thought that if I have a good benchmark I can keep coming back to this image and improving on my earlier work/do my own version once I'm ready
Is her clipboard supposed to be white?
Even if you dont draw the outlines of the eyes, remember to colour the whites in
wtf is she doing with her clipboard?
is she clipping it between her fist and arm? or is she supposed to actually hold it?
consider making her glasses not absolutely crystal clear
consider giving her actual pupils and highlights, too
ahh theres the two images i was looking for to explain >>141849
my advice is back to basics
I dont want to say everything is wrong buteverything is wrong
Hands arent that blocky
the way the body is posititioned doenst fit the way you're describint it with line, like you;re trying to give a 3/4 look while drawing the clothing like its a full frontal
you're wrinkle lines don't tell us anything and look like you put them in because clothing has wrinkles
your shadows/light are okay i guess but still have wierd misinfo like the inner lapel being white and the characters right wing not being darker
that tie is apparently a button on since its not going under the collar
glasses are too tiny
ears are to high
Seriously take a step back from drawing waifus and focus on technique like ive mentioned earlier and is mentioned here >>155645
I didn't draw it
I just coloured it in, but thanks for the feedback on the shading
I wouldn't mind try drawing but end up never having the motivation because I know i'll suck badly at it. Even with all the guides here, i end up just sitting around and doing nothing.
How do you motivate yourself to try and draw?
Don't wait for motivation because it's not gonna come for you if you just sit on your ass and wait for it. Just draw, it'll probably suck but who gives a fuck. Your failures are only more reason to try and do better next time.
Don't worry about sucking, nobody's good at first. As long as you keep trying you will see improvement.
Furthermore, it just feels good to create something. Even if it sucks, it's nice to look at your work and say "I made that". I'm far from perfect when it comes to drawing and despite the fact I tend to focus too much on my mistakes, I still feel nice knowing I made something.
Pic related is something I made recently, far from great but I still like it. And it's better than some of the older shit I made.
Plus drawing provides a very nice refuge from the creeping existential dread I feel on a quad-weekly basis, but I don't know if you're on the same boat as me on that matter. If you are, I do recommend drawing.
Gonna hit you lads up with some cheesy motivation
oh well i feel stupid
Try to visualize a location of the lightsource, like is it solar, if it is what time of day, is she near some major color source like grass or water
if shes indoors what kinds of light is he near, candles/iridecent/incandecent, is it lamp or overhead or a chandeler
avoid white at all costs, theres rarely any natural or unnatural white light,
If you dont want to think to much about those things just try to go with a lighter shade of whatever the character is wearing. So say your red is 50%, 25% might be a better place to start highlights rather than white.
Textures come up more in the way they act with light but that gets into specifics that you need examples for, like silk being shiny, metal being weird, cotton being way less contrasty
Totally a WIP. But it's becoming a more common thing I do when I get home. I posted the derpy armed spidder
Alright, hot off the trails of colouring in, I tried drawing something this time. I present to you original character, Magical Girl Runt the Hellhound.
This took way too long (15+ hours easy) and I don't wanna have to shade that much shit again. How can I draw something so flat colours look nice?
Also i fucked up the mouth I'm sorry.
I… sorta started before you said, but I don't think I fucked up too much. I value your feedback, but can you help me draw… quicker?
something interesting happened.
dwango (people who worked with studio khara) purchased Toonz some sort of animation software used by studio Ghibli. Its going open source with their agreement.
aaand courtesy of QB the face is now fixed
I really gotta work on that
how long do I do this line drawing exercise?
the easy answer would be "until you can draw a straight line easily and quickly" but i can see that is going to take lots of practice
so do I keep filling up practice sheets or should I be doing certain exercises together and keep coming back to this one?
You should be doing more then just line drawing, It helps with straightening, but you should also be trying to some circle and cube drawings.
Don't be afraid to start drawing something else either, like eyes, noses and fingers.
How long should you spend on each of these levels? I'm guessing anywhere from 1 week to 1 month.
Ha, more like a year to 2
Hey, you can get from level 0 to the "1st level of mastery" in about a month without even trying too hard, anything past that is gonna take quite a bit tho
I'm currently doing this
once I completed the "assigned" homework is that enough or should I continue doing each of the exercises?
I never actually went through the basics. I liked drawing for a long time, been doing it for the heck of it since I was a kid. Only recently did I start taking it more seriously, but I'm still just too lazy to go through the basic stuff.
Tell me, do I even need to? What should I focus on improving?
I know my work is far from perfect, but I'm not sure if I would benefit a lot from the basics, since I feel as though I already have most of it down. So please judge me and tell me how big of an idiot I am.
Of course there's room for improvement, but damn I'd be relatively happy if I could even draw that well.
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Very Nice. Keep up the great work.
Please help me get better.
only a couple of nitpicks.
Nipples seem off, one seems larger than the other.
Eyes and eyebrows showing through the hair.
and her neck seems off.
Other than those, great job.
That's fucking amazing, nipples seem just a little off.
How do I work up the motivation to actually sit down and draw something?
I keep telling myself "I should draw something, someday." Then I end up just sitting around doing nothing and thinking that either i'll suck too much to continue or that I shouldn't invest the time in the first place.
How do I start and not give up after a few sketches?
honestly, just start, if you manage to do one drawing a day for 30 days, you will have formed a habit. This isn't just a drawing thing either, the best way to start any new hobby or craft is to just dive right in and start. Accept the mistakes you make, learn from them, and keep pushing on.
That's the hard part. Just sitting down, pulling up some paper and a pencil, opening a drawing book, and drawing something.
Sadly, that's how I am with most things. I end up complacent and avoidant because I set really high standards for myself at the start. If I think I can't meet them or that I might fail, I just give up.
drew this multi limbed monster girl
The thing that gave me motivation to start gitting gud was the book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain", you can get it from http://8ch.net/loomis/hub.html.
Everything in it sounds stupid as fuck until you suddenly go "Holy shit I can draw". It's a decent read to get you started from the very beginning.
Remember guys, keep drawing and keep delivering OC. The last thing we want is for people to go to /mgg/ and never come back.
digging the toots in this thread, they are very helpful.
one of the problems i had with posting anything in drawthreads were the flood of requests
I'm personally happy to see any good oc like your post.
Draw whatever you feel like drawing.
A request is a suggestion box, you draw whatever you like or a request that interests you.
We kind of had a big drop off today. We dropped down to 214, behind /tg/ and /r9k/
I haven't even started drawing yet. Kind of sucks to, since basically monster girls and shortstacks are what really motivate me
that and epic story telling
Who the hell's gonna go to 4chan though?
I just looked at the thread. It's literally roll and shitposting general now.
It seems to attract a lot of artists and some writers though
Used to. A few people drove them all off. I doubt anyone would go there anymore.
Anyway, I got bored in a class and drew this. Just now digitized it.
Hopefully we bounce back with help from /tech/
>keep drawing and keep delivering OC
We're at 227, but we pushed ahead of /tg/ and /r9k/. We're back to being behind /cuteboys/
wow, that looks really good. I hope you keep drawing for us drawfriend.
You listen and you listen good.
It's the best thing I've ever seen and might ever see.
You keep making things around here, okay?
Thank you for making this, and may Ammit's blessing follow you always.
Please don't listen to TOO much >>164252
There's always room for improvement, however he's super jazzed someone drew his waifu in a wedding dress. You have a site or anything, or are you just starting?
Stupid question, but that's a Lich, right?
It's looking nice but it has few flaws.
>looks like her right breast is basically missing.
>Bouquet looks like its growing from her arms instead of being held.
Pretty good, but >>164258 has it right with those two items.
Definitely better than what I can draw jack shit.
Been trying to get into art for a while. I've been drawing sprites for the past few weeks, and then I did a few traces, which have both worked out fairly well. Not sure how to actually get started producing real images of my own though. Do I need to start pushing a pencil across paper? I'd rather stick to graphic arts software entirely if possible. Is freehanding with a brush tool an acceptable substitute for producing lineart?
What about the line tool? I don't trust my hands at all so I'm much more comfortable with that.
Question: how do you balance things? Like I'm trying to write, draw and play piano all at once and its a bitch
you can doodle when you write, especially during some writers block. just make sure to keep it simple with your doodles.
Holy fuck, it's been too long.
I'd really appreciate some feedback here. Shooting for a stronk orcfu, how is she? What needs fixing?
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Body proportions generally looking good I think. However I feel like you could some basic boob-drawing tutorial.
just do it. i did.
but i guess the questions you should ask yourself is:
1) do you want to put in the horrible amounts of work to get good?
2) can you get past your art being dogshit every time you finish it? (i still feel this way the second after i finish every thing i draw. but i keep on going.)
if you can deal with those, just do it.
being dogshit awful is the first step to git gud.
like for example elbows are usually somewhere around the bottom of the ribcage on normal humans. so the arms there are particularly long/huge reaching near the top of the hips… unless thats what you are going for, then its allright.
another thing. the nipples are weird. a weird tip for nipple placement is "hold your earlobes and trace a line down." also they usually point more upwards unless they are sagging. those are pointing downwards.
also yeah as a result the tits look a bit flat. they lack curvature which is made worse by the off looking teats.
your guess is as good as mine, m8.
recently i spend a few hours book studying/gaming before making some coffee and getting to work.
Huh, thanks. I was trying to draw some overly large tits there, and I started neglecting the basics, my bad. Anything else? Would you make any additions on top of that?
lookin good anon, lookin good, would snu-snu
I appreciate the encouragement, anon, but I need some how's.
Is freehanding with a brush or line tool viable or is it necessary to learn to draw on physical paper?
What do you mean, freehanding it?
Are you using a drawpad/tablet?
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
hmm. where to start, huh? i guess i'll spurge out a bit.
gonna assume you wanna get into digital art.
digital is harder to work with what with the uhh.. 'disconnect' between your analog inputs with a digital result. so if starting off, your shit is gonna be more trash than analog but if you keep at it, you'll eventually get better at it. (remember! its a long and painful path.)
also, gonna assume you are starting from 0, judging from your question. 'freehanding' it is how you generally do things and drawing analog is generally better due to its unforgiving nature forcing you to git gud or die trying.
so to start off? if you havent bought a tablet, get one. mouse is okay for pictures or vectors but not for drawing. you can get a cheap-wad one that will serve you more than well enough for like $60-$80. they even sell refurbed wacoms (like on amazon) around that price if you're a brand-whore. 10 inches is a good size. though some people like smaller/bigger than that.
next you gotta get a good drawing app. (in order of price)
>Krita is good and free.
>Sai is cheap and has a hard focus on 'just draw, nigga!' with an easy to use UI but its very basic on features.
>Manga/Clip Studio is like sai but has more features
>Photoshop is the industry standard but has too many features and is kinda bloated
well then from there you kinda want to go through a few lessons. go through them at your own pace. if you feel you need to work on stuff more, take the time to do it. you get in what you put out.
I'd start with http://drawabox.com/
it'll teach you the fundamentals. fundamentals are important.
from there you should go through a few books. if you are ever in doubt with how to use a book, just draw what you see on the page (focusing as best you can on what its trying to teach you). again, go through them slowly. take your time. you'll be here forever (do it for her).
loomis is always a good choice. i forget what were the good ones for scrubs though. 'Fun with a pencil'? maybe 'Successful Drawing'? just read or go through them.
another choice would be to go through the Vlippu Drawing manual. but that's a bit tougher to chew.
from there you go through books on topics you want to improve on. though try to get books by people who actually draw and not ones by unnamed nobodies.
next for daily practices. i like to mix and match a bunch a different practices before i draw what i really want to draw. i spend like 30 minutes to an hour. you can put as much effort into it as you want and you get in what you put out. also yeah do them every day. make the effort!
>line practice. Whatever parts of vid related i feel like doing. its better to do these on actual paper. if your gonna do them digital, turn off all the line smoothing. its about controlling the pen and getting your hands to draw the line you want.
>draw shapes.you can go from simple shitty line drawings to proper perspective having and well shaded shapes. i usually sneak in one or two. the secret is to draw cubes. draw cubes every day. cubes can easily become the other basic art shapes (except spheres). plus it teaches you a lot more than what you would think. especially in the realm of positioning said shapes in 3D space.
>gesture drawing. draw lines quickly to draw the basic form of people. gestures are really important for capturing a persons expressions, so its good to practice them. makes your stuff go from looking rather stiff to more human looking. use a site like http://www.quickposes.com/ or http://www.posemaniacs.com/thirtysecond
>reference drawing. draw from real life, or find a good picture you like and just try drawing it. simple. it'll look like crap when you're starting off tho. just save pictures of cute girls or whatever you are into while you're on the internet and draw them.
and thats about it. its what am doing to 'just do it!'. though i'm no expert or anything but i have seen myself improve.
lastly i think there are some art books in this direction. https://mega.nz/#F!es1BSKQR!spODyd0iaQmMelGA2GscFw!3lEUVZyQ
good luck. it helps to treat each failure of a drawing as a stepping stone to your future success.
also be sure to visit /loomis/ and /art/ and other fancy art boards.
Alright, got it. I think my little sister might have an old tablet she never uses any more, so maybe I can steal that. I'll give it 15 minutes a day until I'm gud.
yeah.. just go for it. worse comes to worst, you can go to a decent office supply store and cheaply pick up a pack of pencils and a ream of white paper and just go to town for practice. hell you should probably do it anyway. its good to work with different mediums.
dont let you or anyone else stop you.
I don't come to this board often, so if you reply I might not get back to you if there is any questions, but a really good way to build a 'roadmap' for yourself is to think of a goal. When people first starting drawing, I always hear them talking about that they don't know where to start. Well, I hope this helps you work that out:
Firstly, set a goal, e.g. I want to be able to draw this specific character in this pose; I want to be able to create my own characters in dynamic poses; I want to be able to draw dynamic drawings with interactions involving other characters or objects. The list goes on and on, your goal can be whatever you want, just try not to make it too demanding, as it hinders the next step. The point of this is to set your direction somewhere, so you're not lost, and lets you break things down into what you need to learn (second step).
Secondly, break this goal down into smaller parts, e.g. I want to draw this character in this specific pose breaks down into:
If you've noticed, these are some of the (art) fundamentals, which can be broken down into even more fundamentals such as, shape, line, form, etc. This is where you start, breaking everything down until they are manageable parts. Once you improve, 'anatomy' becomes one complete block, opposed to multiple different fundamentals grouped up, and that's now something you 'know'.
Lastly, work on solely one at a time. You want to improve, improving isn't fun, it's hard work. You grind these until you reach your goal, and then you set another, and this continues for as long as you want.
I've written this quite quickly, so I may of missed details, but this should give you the gist of what to do if you lack direction. This is universal to /any/ skill as well, look into deliberate practise if you want to learn about this yourself. I've just summarised what works for me through reading dozens of book on this subject. If you want to ask any questions, like I said at the start of the post, don't reply here. Instead, you can email me at: [email protected]
WIP but wanted to ask.
Does the anatomy look fine?
Well I didn't get any advice but I still finished it.
I'm trying to study form, does anyone know a good place to get nude 3D models from?
just look up porn
That's the first thing I thought of but I'd rather start with non-lewds before going into it.
Drawing on paper and keeping your drawings suck.
Yeah, I found an old sketchbook with some uh. Interesting sketch practice I did before hand. I ended up using the thing to jot story ideas on.
If I wanted to get back into art, I'd head back to painting muh miniatures and free handing stuff.
I wonder what I'll think if I ever find these drawings a few years from now and just see loads of pages full of bad drawings and /v/ requests such as a badly drawn sonic and a dick with a face.
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>your yeti waifu will never jerk you off with her fluffy feet
Ugh looks like drawfags are kill. We need to breed more of them already
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It's just vanilla, but I drew this a few days ago and was hoping for some critique.
Proportions seem good and pose looks decent. Only glaring error is right shoulder.
Head looks too big and the arms are too short, the elbow goes down to the space between the ribcage and the pelvis and the hands go around the middle of the thighs. Everything else looks good though. Good job.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Too damn late to fix it though. I'll try to remember next time.
But she's supposed to be holding the rifle at waist-level. Is there a good way to render arms that are bent toward the viewer?
I looked into Loomis, but the PDFs I found were all in image format and not in text formate page-by-page! Can I please get a version that I can use Ctrl+F with?
Here are a couple sloppy adjustments in Photoshop to demonstrate some changes I would've made.
The facial features are bunched together, which makes them look flat as if pasted onto a surface. I spread them out a little, mainly moving the eye on the left further away, to make it appear more deeply embedded into the skull. I've also widened the neck to make the chin stick out less.
The arms are very skinny and also a bit too short. I widened the arms and moved the elbows down a bit. Also, the way her arms are positioned suggests that the rifle should be angled towards us slightly, but instead we see it straight-on. Rather than reposition the rifle (which would require redrawing it), I repositioned her arms to hug the barrel closer to her hip.
I don't claim to be good at drawing, so I'm not sure how wise these changes really are. These are just things I noticed immediately.
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Hot damn you fixed it. Many thanks anon!
Hey that's actually pretty great, nice fixes!
holy fuck thats great, got a laugh out of me.
So I'm definitely not an artist, these are just doodles I drew while bored in class (and added the antennae to make it kinda related to /monster/)
With my insecurities out of the way, can I get some general advice? I'd like to improve my drawing to be good enough to be a drawfriend sometime.
The legs and feet are awful and I retried too many times, so just went with it…
No bully intended, but you really need to start with the basics.
>feet and calves too small
>arms too long.
>hands too small and malformed
>no neck syndrome
>shoulders too far in, makes him look like he's got no shoulders
That's beautiful and true. As a writefag, at least I know one MG is fed, although I'm afraid she might get diarrhea every now and then from food poisoning
gotcha, I plan on learning the basics and working from the ground up. So far my only experience is from doodles and copying, so hopefully I'll start to improve on all that. thanks friend c:
Not a drawing, but I can use gimp well enough to make some tasty OC
No shame in it, artbro. We all start somewhere.
If you have the moneyto spring, get a copy of Anatomy for the Artist. Failing that, anything by Loomis. Goofy as it may sound, take a look at Boris Valeho or Franzata, both great examples of dynamic anatomy. If you live in a decent-sized city, there should be a cheap or free art course offered by the local art school. Take advantage if you can.
thanks, a friend actually sent me a copy of a loomis book, so I started reading that c:
>a friend actually sent me a copy
If you don't know you can get them for free at his site
If you mean a physical one then just ignore this post
oh. well i guess i'll download some other editions then
I tried to do a lizard girl that had the resemblance to Zilla with the hair looking like the dorsal plates. In the long run, this drawing sucks.
Fuck that's somehow better than what I can do but, I think you lack basic knowledge, perspective and form.
I'd recommend learning both of them before going into gesture and then learning anatomy.
I recommend this book for perspective
Sycrea's and Proko's videos for form
And I guess these pics are good enough for gesture.
Just by learning these your drawings will get better.
There's also anatomy but I haven't learned it yet and I don't know any good resource to use.
not really, quicker comes with time
You cant suddenly do a 5k and expect to be in first place.
Focus on basics then style then speed.
One thing that may help though is doing short gesture drawings so you can plan out poses and get used to weights quicker. There are a lot of good gesture sites out there that have short to long timers.
i dont browse /monster/ unless im really bored. sorry
>digital is harder to work with what with the uhh.. 'disconnect' between your analog inputs with a digital result. so if starting off, your shit is gonna be more trash than analog but if you keep at it, you'll eventually get better at it. (remember! its a long and painful path.)
I literally cant do digital. everything feels wrong, the lines are too thick, not thick enough, line doesn't react to the way i hold the pencil, or doesn't react the way its supposed to, cant use two hands to move the paper while drawing, occasional lag.
It doesn't even feel like I'm drawing anymore. I've never had something make me so dam angry
Flat and light coloring with gradients? sure i can do that
anything else and i may try to snap my tablet in half i only stopped because I remembered the pricetag
Draw more people naked/ in skintight clothing
Your limbs are too thin.
heads too big, draw more real people faces to get used to proper proportion
find some reference for army clothing and boots
Same goes for the gun
>no trigger discipline
I dont know what your shadows are trying to say. they don't make sense. Look up some black and white films and watch the shadows
This isn't new but it's a rough representative of what I can do, can someone with more knowledge of this stuff critique this?
Watch the legs and pants, assuming she slid down, the pants would ride up a bit and wouldnt be covering half the shoe
Try taking a picture of yourself in that pose for reference
always double check guns and the reference for them. use straight lines, dont try to freehand it
i cant give much on the face, there's a lot going on since its a rough.
Looks great desu, I hope I can get that gud soon-ish. The only thing that looks off to me is the bottom left hound's butt. Keep up the great work.
I had some free time and did a speed sketch. Shoulders and hands are off, I know.
Is trying to 'learn how to draw' ever a worthwhile endeavor? Isn't it just a matter of being born with the talent or not? I knew an Asian kid who could draw badass looking dragons in elementary school with no special training. Also, my own father is a moron in general and he never went to art school, but he can draw cartoons, or even photorealistic portraits. Meanwhile, I can't draw a straight line even with a ruler… I used to try drawing anime pictures when I was young, and it was all a waste of time. Everything came out like shit.
Faggot talk, persistence is key when it comes to people who can't draw well, its a gradual process for the rest of us. Some people can skip steps but can fail in crucial things like structure and anatomy. You need to stop comparing yourself to others and work on what you are doing incorrectly.
You'll draw shit art for years than all of a sudden, you'll find people who say you draw well while it stills looks like shit to you, draw practice and learn and always remember to draw for yourself, or your fans if you get any.
I can recommend searching for some artist/artisian ring (club?) in your neighbourhood, or even attending an art class (paid, unless someone would teach voluntary XD) if not proper school, ending it with a degree (I plan to eventually, I am without edutation basically xd)
Really, seeing how you improve and how much you have to learn comparing to other classmates (?) who were there longer, it really motivates. I attend it since the last vacations have ended, they were there before that (well, 2 of).
I can see what I do wrong and what right, copy their techniques and simple detailed ways of drawing/sketching, check recently even discovered new way of doing it myself X—DDD.
Just a protip in the sense of profit for ya.
Compared to where I was in 2009 (date I started lurking chans, first /int/ then moved onto one on KC back when it was good) and I am now (back then mostly just simple traces with a ballpoint occasionally, when I had "had a vein"), I can clearly see I would never figure out so much myself. I'd probably spend years drawing in same style shit and not improving at all. What is the funniest I do almost NOTHING in home aside lurking chans, that is I practise only during those art classes – being lazy cunt all the day otherwise.
It cured me from phobia of big papersheets too as at first we were on those gigantic (?, used for printing) A4, whilst I mostly doodled miniatures on typical copybook I inherited from sql back before my spergout, sic.
Man give me 3 years or moreso and I can start uploading my first stuff on dAutist, maybe 5 and on Pixiv! I do not feel up to do it now seeing how much kitsch is there overall =_=. Reminds me of cheap giant glass (BBC) dildoe liberalist architecture.
>Inba some 4chins will be triggered at my post.
Fugg :DDD XDXD benis in bagina :D bababa :D blogpost bagina lurk more benis :DDDD XD
Crack of the Banshee. I'm trying to get out a good set of mgs this month, wanting to stay more on the humanoid side but I might try dragon mixes later.
Why must drawing tentacles and curly hair be hair be hard
I really hate the editing process.
yeah I wonder why it looks so good
An Ammit-chan for /monster/
I still have a long way to go, but at least the figure drawing feels like it's paying off
And my tablet pen feels less and less like trying to draw with a crayon while wearing gloves
she's cute anon~ but she needs a bigger ass.
I'm happy you decided to make the eyes red.
Although >>179848 has a point, she needs more ass/hip/thigh size. MAYBE the hippo portion shouldn't reach up so high.
Also, why do some people here portray the hippo part as being red rather than brown?
Oh, and as one decent artist once told me – Drawing like everything can be learned. People with a "talent"/porned skill will just be first or quickier to notice such things.
Have you heard of Jan Matejko? He is viewed as one of greatest Eastern European historical painters, yet you could clearly see "lack of 3D" in his gigantic watercolours. Apparently he had some severe illness, as I was told once.
E/P/INE :—D BENIS IN BAGINA :DDD. U GONNA FUGG :—DDD. SUOMI ON PARAS PASKAA! EI VITTU, AIKA ASSBURGER SAATANA PERKELE. KC TIRE.
Hope everyone has been taking good care of their dark elves in my absence
I'll take both your comments into consideration should I ever re-draw Ammit-chan (which I no doubt will at some point)
How do I get good at colouring/digital painting?
I'm somewhat happy with where my sketches are at, but I feel like a total beginner when it comes to colouring; and digital colouring specifically
I was going for jumping spider momfu/roommate.
Tear me apart.
I always wish I were a little less autistic, to where I could actually focus on anything for more than 5 minutes. And actually create art that contributes back to the community in which all I do is parasite off of.
Artfairy believes in you, anon.
How do I actually start drawing? I've looked through some books. However, each time I think about starting, i usually end up not doing anything and thinking how much i'd suck. Any way around that?
The only way around it is to just muscle through it. It gets easier the more you draw and the more confidence you gain, but it never truly goes away.
My advice would be to sit down with a blank canvas, and just draw some random lines. Don't worry about where you're going with it, just let you hand get used to moving around the space.
Sooner or later, an idea may come to you for something to doodle. If it's too big for you to finish in under 10 minutes, don't worry about it. If it is something you can finish in under 10 minutes, go for it. If you just wind up drawing random squares and triangles all over, that's fine.
The goal is not to make the Sistine Chapel, but to get used to the act of drawing.
>but to get used to the act of drawing.
Not him but, would it help with line control?
I'm doing the chengs exercises whenever I'm free, but fuck I'm still bad.
Pretty sure yes. As long as you keep at your daily exercises for control, it should improve.
why is drawing faces in 3/4 view so hard, especially the features
Other than the nose being really flat, it looks good to me. But then I'm awful at faces.
What book did you study on form?
That's lovely how long are you studying?
Actually autistic people should learn things like drawing fast. (Pretty much everything that doesn't require interaction with other humans.)
Which book is this do you have a link?
Not him but thanks a lot!
I started drawing about half a year ago, but the time I draw wildly fluctuates, from not drawing at all an entire month to drawing 8 hours a day
I've read through all the loomis books aswell as keys to drawing, and I look through halfchans /ic/ sometimes
I'm still shit tho, especially at anything below the face
how do I build more patience
I want to cure symbol drawing too, and I know you have to draw in form but it seems like I don't get it and still I'm drawing in lines?
I don't get drawing sometimes.
>I want to cure symbol drawing
Isn't that what copying Picasso's "Stravinsky" upside down is supposed to do?
yeah I've done that a few times and everytime I do it, it feels like I'm trying to copy a flat image/lines rather than actual form.
I wish the sticky would explain more in detail what symbol drawing is because I'm dumb
So begins artquest.
I think I've already run into problems though. I have this habit of deathgripping my pencils. Always have. Normally I just write in short bursts so it never mattered, but since I want to do this more often, I'm getting some pretty bad hand fatigue. I also think I'm gripping my pencil improperly. Any advice?
Day 2. Eyes are hard. They would be much less hard if people only had one. Time to only draw cyclopses because symmetry is difficult.
Day 3. Lips are harder than eyes fuck lips yo. http://imgur.com/a/9v18B
It's just drawing while keeping shapes in mind. Not drawing a single form, but a mixture of various shapes. My hand is already unsteady and using a mouse to draw only worsens it, but I hope you were able to understand.
https://mega.nz/#F!vxUykLhL!wgZ3f_gD1ztAnKMW4dVRrg might help you. It's a collection of infographs, including proko's guides on how to draw facial features.
By the way, what are you using to draw?
Day 4. I gave myself a headache from leaning over and drawing too much. Considering trying to draw in a different style because realism is HARD. So many shadows and things to make perfect. Getting a good head shape is hard too. I've been drawing the features first and then surrounded them in a head, which I'm pretty sure is the opposite of what I'm supposed to do. Heads are hard to draw.
Tried drawing Scylla after practicing to draw. Doesn't really look like them and many things are off so I need to spend more time practicing
The only thing weirding me out are the knees in her legs. They don't really look like tentacles, because of joints you drew. Other then that it's pretty cute.
Day 6. Took a day off because headaches probably caused by new medicine. Shit sucks. Only felt like drawing some stuff and trying to practice my shading. Tried noting the mistakes I noticed so that I can revisit them later.
Maybe soon I can try drawing some content with actual relevance to the board.
Actual day 6 for real this time.
>Maybe soon I can try drawing some content with actual relevance to the board.
Forgot about this and drew another face. I think it turned out much better than the other two. I took pictures of the progress to document the changes.
I keep meaning to try and draw a more cartoony thing but I always wind up aiming for realism.
I think I'm starting to get a little better, but the time it takes me to actually pump out a drawing I'm somewhat happy with is agonizingly long and murders my back from leaning over so much.
later probably. Thanks
Yeah thanks for pointing that out it made me realize how silly and problematic it would be for a scylla to have joints in their tentacles.
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How would I go about fixing this bix-nood cyclops?
After getting over myself and rationalizing that if I kept at it maybe I'd get a little bit better, day 7 of drawquest.
There were other random sketches I did but quite frankly I'd be embarrassed to include them. Mostly just practice on perspective and whatnot.
Problems I noticed after finishing were the asymmetric eyes, lips, and tribal tattoos. Hair still eludes me, I'm not sure how you'd draw that. It seems like a lot of fine detail. Considering getting a book to sketch in bigger than 10 x 7.5 inches.
Lips are HARD to make look good. Drawing one eye is easy. Drawing two eyes in perfect symmetry seems impossible.
Did this for /v/, I figured I could post it here.
> i would just burn that piece of crap if i were you.
What's the point? He already posted it online, It's too late now.
So has this thread helped out the drawfag thread in anyway shape or form?
How long does it take to learn how to draw? For example to the level of the OP's image.
It depends. For drawing you need both motor skills and being able to understand the logic behind it. If you already can draw a bit, or at least draw straight, then all you'll need to do is learn the theory behind it, which is easy. If you can't into it, but can into logic, it'll take longer, since you'll need to spend a long time trying to get your muscle memory to work.
After the muscle training, though, so much of art is just learning how things work and how to construct them in a 3D environ in your head (and rendering that into 2 dimensions). I'd go so far as to say that it's 20% physical ability, and 80% understanding of techniques, and then another 1000% of art is building a visual library.
Add on learning how to use tools from traditional (pencils, pens, brushes, brush pens, markers, erasers, kneaded erasers, white-out, scalpels, etc.) to digital (Photoshop, Krita, SketchbookPro, and the tablets that are compatible), and it adds up fast.
Do NOT let that discourage you, though! Even if you draw for as little as 30 minutes every day, that's easily 150 hours of practice you've gotten in a year, and I guarantee that once you get into the habit, you'll start having 1-2 hour sessions. DO NOT STOP, AND DO NOT BURN OUT. Measure by the calendar, not the clock. Determination will win out over inspiration.
How do you get the motivation go sit down and draw. Each time I consider trying to draw, I end up comparing my potential shitscribbles to better pieces and end up discouraged.
I remember that fucking korean laughing at me for not being able to do straight lines.
Hate fueled drawfags.
That's the thing anon, you're not supposed to compare yourself to others. There will always be people who are better than you, as well as people who are worse than you. You should compare yourself to the past you. You don't have to be better than others, you just have to be better than the you of yesterday.
Matsu-sensei isn't even real, and even if he was why would I be here?
You gotta enjoy your shit-scribbles, you're just practicing for now.
Just a few things to consider:
Your issue with hair is understandable (I still have a shit time drawing hair and I'm looking for ways to expand on that). It's better to think of hair not as the typical anime-style where there are sharp separate shapes everywhere, but as a flowing mass. First pic related explains it a little better.
I think before beating yourself up over your face you should invest in learning shape and form construction. Before you even take the plunge down the rabbit hole for anatomy, you should at least understand your faces as simplified geometric planes. It will not only help you draw your faces with a little more accuracy, it'll help when you want to turn your faces in 3d space.
You're drawing your eyes more as symbols. It's better to think of drawing spheres for the eye balls, then drawing flesh wrapping over them (eyelids).
Big thing to get a hold of is proportions. Lack of good proportions is what gives you the eye space issue.
Keep going on your drawfag journey, anon! And take a lot of this advice coming from the fact that I'm still more of an amateur; if you keep up your work I'm sure you can pass me in no time.
On a final note: Get rid of the lined paper. It's the first instantly noticeable mark of an amateur. Printer paper is cheap enough, and consider that making an investment in a sketchbook may motivate you to draw more.
(Refer to pics related to back up my observations, you can find these and a lot more helpful guides in the /loomis/ mega repo)
And feel free to ignore some of this if it's been said already
Been lurking this for a while.
Been trying to put the great reference material to good use. Here's what I worked on today. Didn't use any references models for this attempt. Only working with what I have learned from practice. I don't have a tablet or scanner so please accept a shitty camera pic.
I already see some issues. Didn't plan the construction of the background girl well enough and now the hand isn't in a good spot. Was supposed to be tucked between her legs. Also I'm not happy with how the arms in twin. It's very flat.
The breast of the front girl are not on the same plane as the shoulders.
Just want to say thanks.
Nice trips. Keep working on it, you seem to have potential.
>the CP bot is back
When you sit down to draw something, do you actually see it in your mind beforehand? When I close my eyes I see nothing at all, I have no ability to imagine things visually. I think it's called "aphantasia". It feels like a curse; I just want to draw cute lesbians all day long but I can't even see them in my mind so how can I draw them?
You can always use other pictures for reference if you can't envision it yourself. Find a few good yuri pics and try to copy them.
My problem is that the second I stop looking at a reference picture, I can't remember it at all. I'm not sure if I have conveyed just how bad this is, I'm saying literally the moment my eyes are not looking at it anymore I might as well never have looked at it because nothing has sunk in and I'm not able to recall any of the reference. Does that make sense? Short of learning to draw without actually taking my eyes off the reference picture to look at what I am drawing, I'm not sure what to do.
That is definitely a bit more problematic. Nothing really comes to mind, except try to just go with your hand. Did you try that? No reference pics, no imagination, just try to do it automatically. I'm guessing you'll be able to tell if something about the anatomy is 'off'?
Yes, I can tell when something looks wrong or anatomy is off, but that hasn't helped me improve at all.
So can you actually see what you want to draw clearly in your mind before you draw it? I gather most people are actually able to picture things in their mind, for a long time I thought it was just an expression.
I've always been wary of this advice, every time I try to draw Stravinsky upside down it starts out fine, but eventually I realize that I'm drawing, say, a finger, and my mind immediately switches back to symbols. I don't know if that's the point or not, but it's damn frustrating.
Alright, wince reference pics are out of the question, try memorizing technical details. Stuff like how long are certain body parts supposed to be in comparison to others and whatnot. You don't need to picture anything when doing that.
While I can visualize the drawing in my head, I almost always use reference pics, but that's because I'm pure ass at anatomy and the stuff I draw straight out of my head doesn't end up as good.
She doesn't have a snout, too monster?
needs more human features.
Hey anons can you critique my sketch?
flip your shit is my first criticism, noone wants to crane their head this way
Also my advice to you is to practise each body part individually and then move on to complete images. That is, all in front view.
And after you've got a grasp of anatomy from the front, you can start putting it in sideview, then 3/4 view. Do this till you know how a body is constructed from your head, then you start with poses.
Or atleast that's how I am training. I've done a quick redline of the head as an example.
As for an actual critique of the picture
It's shit, for alot of reasons
TL;DR Learn anatomy, get good, then learn complex poses.
Thanks for your honesty. I thought it looked like shit but a tad better.
I was in art school and had drawing workshops as well. I'm so poor now that I'm gonna start over and try to relearn. One of these days I'll go outside and just gesture people outside.
Btw most of the sites are great on there.
Thank you guys again. I'll pray to ammit I'll get better
Does any drawfag here have experience with Intuos Comic? I've been looking at upgrading to that 'cause I can find it cheapish and I want to draw more flexibly than p&p to mouse
pic related, my latest shitey art
I've got the small one, it's a bit restrictive on the shoulder movement and might hurt if you draw for an insane period of time.
Note that there is a certain kind of disconnect as look at your desktop and draw on your tablet infront of you.
Also note that your tablet is scaled up to your monitor resolution so drawing just a cm on your tablet will result in a long line.
Also assuming it doesnt look a thousand times better on paper, do practise anatomy and shit first in black and white before you consider colour and shading, it'll go a long way into making your shit not dA tier
Never used the comic. I've tried pentablets (screen under the pen) and don't like them, because can't see under hand.
Tried Intuos 4 large, but it was a bit too big. Intuos 4 medium is just right, and I love all the customizable buttons. Even works with Linux. I tried using a bamboo, but now I'm so used to the fast tool switching I gotta have dem buttanz.
The "disconnect" never happened for me because the tablet senses the pen when its hovering over the surface, not just when touching, and moves the cursor around, like dragging a mouse.
As far as smaller tablets go, I like them fine for drawing. Just got used to having programmable buttons with little graphical displays for them.
Also, the wacom wireless mouse is pretty sweet - no batteries ever because the pad senses the mouse. Only problem with the mouse is the resolution is low, so you get jaggies and it intermittently sends phantom mouse move events with 0+,0+ mickeys while the mouse is on the pad keeping the screen saver on *Nix boxen awake. For my own code I can discard non-movement events, but I went ahead and wrote an input device shim for X windows to intercept the mouse events and filter non-eventful duplicates to fix the issue on Nix (no telling when/if the FLOSS wacom driver will accept my patch, but it affects all Intuos wacom tablets), Windows driver doesn't have this issue.
[yes, mickeys is the unit of measure for mouse movement]
I've used cheaper wacom products. They seem to work just as well as the more expensive ones with more bells and whistles, indicating no reduction in quality with price, just features. So, I'd venture to say the Comic line would probably be fine.
and that I forget the image, apparently
I thought we were done with this shit.
How do I git gud at drawing? Reading through some tutorial books and drawing cubes and spheres, but my lines are shaky, my shapes don't come out right, my perspective is likely fucked, and everything I make looks like a child's drawing.
I wonder if I should just give up?
Posting pics would really help.
But from what you say
Linequality isnt as important as form, form being the illusion of 3d
Those tutorial books, assuming they are things like loomis figure drawing are for people who atleast have a very basic grasp on the fundamentals
I'd recommend fun with a pencil by loomis as anybody could atleast understand some of it.
As for the childish thing, if it's that you cannot even produce something human looking that's easily fixed by memorizing proportions and basic anatomy.
It takes an experienced artist to just draw a human in a complex pose without any reference or construction.
TL:DR Never give up, tutorial books are only useful if you understand them, learn anatomy and proportions if your stuff really looks like a grade schoolers, post pics for more specific thoughts
Well, here are my shit scribbles. I know they suck, but how much do they suck?
I know there's no way in hell I can draw a person at my level when I can't even draw basic shapes or even lines right.
You are violating the basics of perspective. Linequality will fix itself as you keep practising.
Just think of perspective like this, all lines that face the same way, must be meeting at the vanishing point, that means they are all receding towards the same point. Also the smaller something is, the further away it appears and the reverse is true aswell. Elipses get less like a circle the more they go towards the VP.
Rendering light and shadow is probably going to only lead you to polishing a turd, imo
That is especially true if you don't portray things realistically (e.g you draw animu shit) so hold off on complex shadowplay and use shading only to indicate sides more clearly and whats below and what's up.
It's an /ic/ meme that drawing a hundred thousand boxes and shit will make you a good artist all of a sudden, when in reality drawing what you want to draw will make you good at drawing it with time. (But you do need a grasp on the fundamentals such as perspective)
Saying you can't draw a human at your level is untrue, you just can't do it in a dynamic pose. Try drawing one, realistic or not, then googling proportion and anatomy tutorials, memorize them and do it again and see how much you can improve almost instantly.
Then again take everything I say with a grain of salt since I'm not really great either.
pic related my bestgirl drawing, I have no idea how to draw those big fluffy paws
Fellow Yaobro, nice drawing.
There really isn't enough Yao fan art out there.
>implying there can ever be enough best girl
you'll just have to draw it yourself then, artfairy believes in you anon
Tried doing quick sketches and failed at it. I need you art fairy
Honestly I can't really find many flaws that are not just because you have to clean up the linework.
Her far off eye is looking mighty strange, especially her pupil
Maybe some crosshatching under her chin?
Boobs -> when soft bodies compress against one another you should use thin lines, her stage left hand just kinda disappears? Also don't forget that in MGE troll hands are supposed to be kinda big but you can omit that if you want, just reminding incase you forgot
Just my 2ct's you're miles better than me
Appreciate you pointing that stuff out didn't even realize how bad that looked until now. Think there's other stuff wrong that I need to work on but what you pointed out helps me to decide on what things I should be fixing first.
Been doing quick sketches like these for a few days now.
Still trying to figure out brush settings I like.
I just finished today's mg sketch. Spent a little more time on it than I should have, but I kept wanting to fix the bottoms. RIP
The left nipple seems a bit too leftward.
Is there any form of "Loomis for Retards"? Because I'm having trouble even with "Fun With a Pencil", as in, even my basic funny faces made of circles look like absolute shit. I noticed I'm especially shit at thinking ahead, like, caricatures and other things that require lots of prep are unbearably hard for me.
Honestly, I think I'm at a whole different level of talentless when it comes to visual art. But like, I want to change that. I could stick to drawabox for a while, but is there anything that could help keep me motivated, hopefully with some sort of display of practical results?
#2 is real cute bro. I like it.
Yeah I noticed that too. Back to work for me.
Did another quickie the other morning, forgot to upload.
Joining some sort of art community is the best way to stay motivated. Make sure to give feedback to others. Art isn't about talent either, you just gotta draw a lot. Just checked out drawabox, and yeah you should definitely keep doing that stuff. I might do it myself actually
It's not a drawing, so no. Make a new thread for 3D stuff. Also,
>that nigger ass face
Hey, I was wondering if anybdoy was interested in drawing a slugma.
You can draw it how ever you want, just try to give it a monster vibe.
This is for learning only, >>198995 is for requests.
I'll go no.
Everything looks good in here tho
Hating yourself is pretty standard for drawing, right?
Everytime I draw, I end up dissapointed in my work. My lines suck, my shapes suck, I can't do parrallel lines decently enough, I suck at connect the dots, and I still haven't grasped perspective.
The more I look at it, the more it seems like drawing is only for people who are either naturally talented at drawing or have been doin it since they were little children.
What's a good way to just simply give up drawing for good and never think of trying it again?
>hating yourself is pretty standard for drawing, right?
So says every artist I've met, yet. I think the trick is to find that sweetspot between never being satisfied with your current skill and being able to live with your own faults as an artist.
>drawing is only for people with talent
No. Absolutely not. Anyone can learn to draw. If you don't believe me, look up the old deviantart shit by an assclown named snapesnogger, and then go find her new stuff (owlart or something like that on tumblr, I think). That stupid bitch is a perfect example of someone with sonic-recolor-tier skills maturing into a real artist. Anyone can do this shit, anon. You just got to keep at it.
And from what I've seen, you don't want actual talent. People who are naturally gifted, and I mean born artists, don't learn shit. Think of it as a race: guys like you and me start at the back of the pack, and talented folks start in the middle of the race. The talented guys are thinking to themselves "Oh, I've gone so far!" when they've only taken a few steps, but guys like you and me think have to learn perseverance.
Work in progress. How do I git gud at fire?
I think the fire is pretty good already anon
Don't try so hard to be precise with your lines. You're drawing stylized subjects. Loosen up a little
I think the only real issue with your fire is that the colors are backwards. White>yellow>orange>red from source to outer-most edge
Finally stopped being a lazy fuck and got around to finishing it I think. Redid the fire and got the colors in the right order this time. Not super happy with it, but that might just be the 'tism acting up.
this thread isnt for drawrequests, go for the drawthread. This thread is for baby drawfags that wish to hone their skills before they venture out into the cruel cruel world.
im looking for some drawfriend crit/advice on anatomy & perspective on the current progress.
i spent 19 fucking hours trying to bridge the fucking legs downwards until i got it to where i was satisfied
every thing else wasn't a problem
Redlines would be loved
Not a critic but, if you're still having trouble in those try reading perspective made simple and do something for anatomy, I haven't reached that part yet so I can't recommend anything.
The way you have her legs, its almost like she's leaning back and using her tail to keep herself upright (as in the head isn't touching the ground). I would remove the thighs from the drawing altogether.
The breasts should be hanging closer to the chin too, but I'm no completely sure about this since monster girls do seem to have bodies that defy logic. They should at least round out a bit, and flatten downward as opposed to looking like they're floating.
Nice, man. That fire looks way better. I like that right foot. Reads really well to me. As does the arm crossing in front of her.
Basically what >>217003 said, but you did well on the smug.
Here is a drawing for crit.
where did you learn that hip/leg drawing method?
its just something i came up with to make placing legs easier
proportions and stuff aside, since I don't have the finished thing it's hard to judge that. But why pet in all those lines at 6 gorillion% zoom, make a nice sweeping one zoomed out.
recording from the software its the zoom im working at can't change it
Oh, im doing the Proko method.
Note: when I made this, the source was rotated so it was straight, but I couldn't see below her knees.
ravioli ravioli give her the death she deservioli.
Look more at the picture and measure shit, dont draw shit that not there if you gonna do a photostudy.
Like one particular thing that just fucks me up is the neck, look at your ref, you dont even really see the neck, its obscured by the angle of the face etc.
You just arbitrarily placed that neck in your picture, making her seem like an ayy lmao.
You are supposed to draw only what you see, because your knowledge of anatomy is too bad to substitute. If you want to draw clothed figures naked you'll need a decent understanding of the bones and muscles first.
For example, the shoulder goes much higher if you pull your arm up, tits flatten if you pull the corressponding arm up …
Trying to get into people now, how is it for a start?
Anything I could fix, other than the placeholder face and what-is-perspective legs?
Just look at it, you can tell it yourself.
You need to learn more shit, this is what I recommend.
>perspective (perspective made easy is a good TL;DR book)
>using forms to draw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsdkhQis34U)
>using your arm and elbow to draw, rather than your wrist and fingers
Drawing people in general
Well I'd say the first thing you have to fix is your shit taste, birdfucker :^)
After that, your general forms, they dont flow well at all and aren't appealing, even for a sketch. You'll have a hard time building something sexy from that.
It took me 2mins to do pick related, and judging by the lines over lines over lines you have going on you lack alot of line confidence. Try making those juicy waifu curves with just one nice line, capture the gesture not the specifics.
So in summary, make those proportions more alluring, unless you want a manshoulder cylinderthigh harpy. Make those lines cleaner ,it will look alot better and make you draw much faster.
But it was a good try anon, makes me think you are serious. Your stuff looks like mine did just about 4-6 months ago, keep going. Just a few hours every weekend, do it for your waifu.
Also take everything I said with a grain of salt, I'm not really all that good yet either.
>your shit taste, birdfucker :^)
Faite me fagit.
>Try making those juicy waifu curves
I like the way you thick.
>make those proportions more alluring
I forgot I was using male proportions, thanks for the heads up.
>Make those lines cleaner
I'll try, thanks.
Also, what about the legs on the first pic?
I think they look a bit too long, but I'm not sure if it's just me or what.
Some of my fairy doodles. How much do I suck?
what's you tumblr's url?
I couldn't spot anything wrong on the first but
>that second one
Try using perspective grid for your drawings, also, try studying porn, whether soft or hardcore. It should help.
2nd pic is much worse
look at anime eyes in profile, especially if that is supposed to be the same girl/style. pic related for an approx of how eyes in profile look in anime.
You cant really decide between 3/4 view and profile.
this dudes got a gorilla dick, I wish my balls were as big as my fucking skull not really
aren't fairies supposed to be small? No pointy ears? just saying could be intentional not necessarily a mistake
Somehow you really really remind me of the wikihow artists with the 2nd one and idk why.
first pic isnt as glaring as the 2nd one, so focus on fixing the important shit first
also those tears look like shes leaking milk, render those tears on a seperate layer and reduce the opacity and add highlights
are you using a construction method, if so which, the vast difference between the two pictures construction wise makes me think you either used some sort of base or you just never drew profile view
those legs are average adult woman length, I'd say. It deviates alot tbh and you have alot of leeway as there are alot of body types. It probably looks too long to you because you didnt add thighs n stuff yet. As a very general rule of thumb, the ratio of torso to leg rises in such a way that tall women will have more leglength proportional to their entire body, but there's always exceptions and you should probably draw what you find sexy or you might loose motivation
>i spent 19 fucking hours trying to bridge the fucking legs downwards until i got it to where i was satisfied
You could have done 1140 one minute sketches in that time and you would have gotten a lot more mileage out of that.
Or in other words.
You could have learned a lot more and could have drawn this picture with a lot more ease at a later date.
That said, it's still pretty good. Effort pays off, every time, in one way or another.
Not really bad, but you made a mess out of her jaw and her facial features are kind of off track all around.
The jaw is the biggest detractor of the face, though.
I'm not at the level yet to give you a really good piece of "red line" but it should still illustrate the overall problem.
You have drawn the "point" of the chin in a way that suggest the head to be more profile than three quarter.
If you draw a line from the center of the lower lip then it should fall smack in the center of the front plane of the chin.
In your case that line goes down to the side of the jaw as if her mouth (and her entire face, really) is glued to the right side of her skull.
Chins are extremely difficult though (or at least I think so) and I have a long long long way to go, myself.
> and her facial features are kind of off track all around.
Mine are too, of course.
Good advice all, and thank you guys so much. Have a dragon girl in as a token of appreciation.
Couple of things.
Draw one clean line even in the early stages of drawing rather than a couple of them.
When your drawing heads for the first time there's a tendency to try and copy the same lines you see on other cartoon heads. It's better to try and "Sculpt" the head yourself out of basic objects to achieve these lines rather then cheat them out like your doing now(you have to git really gud to be able to outright draw these lines, like master level artist have trouble doing this). That goes for the rest of the drawing as well.
Also are those chains holding her arms up? that pose seems a little forced.
>It's better to try and "Sculpt" the head yourself out of basic objects to achieve these lines
Not the guy you replied to, but what do you mean by that?
I'm trying to do the Loomis' way, starting with a circle and going from there, but it always comes out all fucked up.
I'd say chins are the bane of my existance, but so is everything that isn't a box, for now.
alright so, those lines are fucking awful but if you are new to digital art thats ok, it's exactly how my shit looked in the first few months too
alright so, first off those arms are fucking long, like holy fuck long. Imagine she stood up and lether arms dangle, those gigantic hands seem intentional enough but she could almost touch her toes.. whilst standing.
next, boobs - even if they are gigantic they will flatten somewhat if you pull your hands up. you drew that connection to the torso of the boobs, but you didnt really consider the connection actually dragging the boobs up along the arms, did you?
the whole face is somewhat wonky and I honestly couldn't point a single thing thats causing it, probably off proportions in general and bad perspective, if I had to wager.
also, she is turning to the left, but the chains are in the perfect midsection, they should be slightly off to the side since the entire body is turned.
also she has badly defined arm and calve curves
also most important of all you have shit taste aswell, reptile fondler :^)
After all this time, you'd think I wouldn't make so many damn rookie mistakes.
Construction is mainly about creating guides for later lines. So by "sculpt" I'm talking about creating those guides, I chose that word because it's important to realize that your working in a 3D space and thus, must be thinking about a circle on paper as more of a sphere.
Construction is an important tool, but you should also work on your ability to lay down straight lines and draw circles in the first place. That Tripped me up a lot before I started practicing.
Practicing how to draw digitally and learning to use different brushes is hard
You mean something like this?
can we also have some sawing tutorials for dollmakers
Y-you mean sewing, right?
YES oh god im so sorry
watch out for the neck width in the first one, if you're this anon >>191410, and you put the same effort into these pictures then you actually got a bit worse tbh imo fampai, still better than me tho
keep up getting worse and I might catch up to you :^)
and here's me trying to detail facefeatures as good as I can without ref, I really recommend trying this to everybody, it's a very good excercise imo.
Your eyelid bulge direction does not match.
It's good that you push the upper lid according to the position of the cornea, since it juts out convexely, somewhat, but the fold above the upper lid should still peak closer to the nose.
I tried to correct it somewhat with the shitty gimp warp tool, it's not perfect but it looks like your eyes are trying to escape in opposite directions.
Poking upwards,outwards and sideways.
Also, remember that the iris is round, if you look straight at it, it's round, if you look at it from another angle, it's an ellipse.
To draw an ellipse in perspective, especially for something directional like an eye or a wheel.
Take the "axle" (or viewing direction vector) and use it as the minor axis of the ellipse.
The minor axis is the narrow line in an ellipse, the major the wider line.
Both must cross at a right angle/perpendicular.
The "axle" of a wheel or direction vector is an extension of the minor axis.
Or in other words.
You trace a line and use a chunk of that traced line to make the narrow part of the ellipse.
Then you add a wider line perpendicular to it.
Etc. I don't have good tools at hand to really explain it. Look it up, perhaps you even know what I'm talking about already.
But yeah, it would help your irises.
Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt but I just kinda drew the eyes that way because thats how I remember them. So the bulge is actually the cornea pushing the lid up, well that's very helpful to know, sometimes it really is the little basic things that noone tells you that fuck you up.
The axis thing I sort of get in and of itself, but I don't really get it in relation to the pic itself, or is it just a general thing? Supposedly the Irises would look exactly the same but I'm just that bad at symmetry
I feel accomplished! I drew a relatively straight cube
>The axis thing I sort of get in and of itself, but I don't really get it in relation to the pic itself
The left iris (right on the picture) is not a circle, yet the eye structure is realistic.
So, mixing a distorted iris with a realistic eye (lids and stuff) structure clashes a bit.
In the case of your picture, the ellipsoid nature of that iris and the angle/degree of it falls in line with the oddly placed lid bulge.
This makes the eyeball look lumpy.
If you take a look at cartoon eyes, they often have elongated irises, but their eyes are also more stylized and usually taller, too.
So they can get away with that there.
It just clashed here because the rest was realistic.
And, yes, the cornea pushes the lid out a bit.
It's very subtle, but when you are trying for realism, it's good to know it.
Most artists actually draw it in a too exaggerated manner, but it still looks good, better than not taking it into account.
It's one of those weird things with eyes.
Just like how the iris isn't really concave, but drawing it concave from side view can make it look nicer.
In any case, though. Even with the slight distortion by the cornea, the peaks of the eyelids are usually closer to the nose for the upper lid, and closer to the outside of the face for the lower ones.
Good job, but if you want to improve really fast, practice straight lines first, before you construct something with lines.
You will always make progress, even if you jump at complex matters first, but it will be ultimately faster if you always break the problem up into components.
The moment you know how to draw lines straight will be the moment where your mind will be free to study cubes, for example.
A study where you won't hav to sweat over lines because you can draw them straight without thinking.
That will, in turn, make you draw cubes faster, which will translate into a higher amount of drawn cubes in a period of time.
Which translates to more mileage. Which translates into quicker progress in drawing cubes.
Then, once you know how to draw cubes, things that are comprised of cubes can be studies and practiced by you in a way that lets you focus on their structure and makeup, without having to waste mental recources on drawing cubes.
>You will always make progress, even if you jump at complex matters first, but it will be ultimately faster if you always break the problem up into components.
This will also make you rage less.
Because every time your brain starts fuming too much and it annoys you is a good sign that you're probably biting off more than you can chew right now.
When that happens, analyze the situation, spot your weakness and deconstruct it, so you can practice it with ease.
The biggest wrench in the gears for drawing is quitting. That's the ONLY way to really fail at drawing. Everything else will ALWAYS improve some aspect of it.
So, if you get frustrated, switch down a gear and practice that which holds you back.
If what is holding you back is depending on something even lower, go down another level until you arrive at the highest step in the chain that you can practice consistently without frying your brain and burning yourself out.
This can get annoying in itself, and, again, you will improve even if you brute force the difficult stuff.
But switching gears will make you better, faster.
At the price of perhaps feeling a bit stupid sometimes for having to go back to "kindergarten", but the result is worth it.
So, if you have the ability to make yourself do that without getting angry at having to switch down every now and then (or often) then do so, it really will boost you and cement t he fundamentals into your brain to an extent where you will outrace the brute forcers with ease.
I'm not good at this, personally, but I know for certain that it works because it helps me whenever I can bring myself to do so.
Drew a snug smug spood. Is there hope for me?
Better than what I can do. But I think >>225360
Will still tell you to go back to basics
The basics are important, but actually drawing is even more important.
All I'm saying is that focusing on basics and foundation will make anything complex easier and more competent looking.
Made this ironically in /pol/'s drawthread but fucked up and saved it as a .jpg making a mess with pixels and shit.
Can some less casual drawfag please clear the margins and smoothen it up with whatever image editing software they have if it's not too much trouble? I guess shitty OC in return. Thanks.
Any good tutorials on female chins?
I just can't get the fucking angle right.
Dude, just fucking trace it, shit's easy.
>Any good tutorials on female chins?
Take a look at jawbones.
Generally they are more rounded and not as angular as a male.
They have a less prominent mental protuberance.
(As in, it doesn't just out as much)
The chin is also narrower and softer in general.
This narrowness does make it more pointed, though, but it's a soft point.
About the angle, think a horseshoe that has an acuteish middle section.
But yeah, the best tutorial is always the skeleton of anything.
If you memorize and analyze skeletons then you can smother and pile on all sorts of guts, skin and fat and you'll always have ea believable figure.
>Take a look at jawbones.
This here, study that for a while.
Really look at it, and think about it.
You might be tempted to say "man, the differences are too subtle", and that's not exactly wrong, but they're there.
If you manage to really grok and understand them, though, then you can exaggerate them for effect.
For example, if you make the jaw more softly rounded and the chin pointier, but not angular, then the chin will automatically look more feminine.
Because if you do that then you're drawing the essence of the difference between male and female, and no matter the style you would choose (although if you went for some really angular style) the more pointy, softer rounded one would look more female, pretty much 9 times out of 10.
Filthy plebian normalfags
>Filthy plebian normalfags
In the current "year" where everybody "learns" by copying others artists stylizations, the one who learns from life is the special snowflake.
Anime esque/tumblr artist #23423479527394 is mundane and normalfaggy.
The one who observes life and, through the filter of their own perception, stylizes life with their own flavor is the maverick, the unique one, the snowflake, the pioneer.
>somehow suddenly know half of the land marks, despite those being impossible last time I tried
>still can't get jaws right
I need an art fairy.
BTW, do you have more angles of different skulls? Pic related is all I could find, but I still need moar.
>implying you didn't get a boner while looking at that pic
Jesus H. Christ anon
Those were just requests…
Drop by the Drawthread and such, but if you post those pictures there, you will be smugged/get horrified reactions because that kind of stuff isn't liked around these parts.
Maybe lurk a little, or if you want some drawing requests, just ask in that thread. But yeah, read the rules sticky and see what isn't allowed/ get a feel for what the board likes.
We appreciate all drawfriends here, but if you want more deviant fetishes, then try >>>/chaos/
Thanks for the info very helpful.
Removed the post for rules reasons, like I say I'm not fussed what I draw just want some monster girls.
Second, yeah! Feel free to ask in the meta… well maybe not the meta thread, but ask int he drawthread or in this thread on where to begin.
Most people usually refer to Monstergirls in the MGE for most things since it's a good base, but feel free to create your own.
snout + futa
a LOT of it
Been lurking and practicing for a while. Can I get a critique on a wip?
Btw it's great watching everybody improve.
Your lines aren't that bad at least compared to mine, but everything else is wrong.
It seems either you are good at observation or you've watched some tutorials about it, but you're rushing it too much.
I'd recommend learning perspective and using it on basic forms(it's not hard, you can learn it in a day) first by using Perspective Made Easy, or any other resource.
After that you can go straight into anatomy, study bones, muscles and then skin. proko.com has some good resources and there are also the Loomis' books.
Also, don't draw hair like that, it looks odd and takes way too long, draw it in strands.
Hello friends and family! There's a beginner thread on /loomis/ now with some refs to study and such like you'd normally see on halfchan's /ic/! >>>/loomis/4124
You may wanna bookmark http://www.kindgirls.com/photo-archive every month they upload several batches of female model photos and they've been doing this since 2003 so there is quite a lot to draw through.
It's not bad, but 3D stuff should have it's own thread.
If you're interested in making some lower-poly models for free, I have a couple of requests.
show me your vehicle skills /monster/
it's good for getting a feel of perspective, since even slight deviations will fuck it up see my pic lol
I think my perspective work has gotten a little better. Mostly copying from a how to draw book. Anything to improve on?
Kinda afraid to try something by myself. Been thinking about drawing a vehicle, but have no idea where to start. Drawing a person or something living is still light years away.
I didn't want to post any of my own stuff since it's not /monster/, but I'll bite.
For a little more variation in your drawing, try placing the vanishing points away from the center of your drawings. It helps make the drawings seem less contrived.
To draw a vehicle, you might start by drawing a box in perspective. Passing that, draw a rough but still perspectively-correct wire frame for the car, then place detail on it. I find that trucks are easier than sedans.
Not bad but the eyes are creeping me out.
Got any eye tutorials?
Just some random pics out of my folder, but they should help you get the gist of it.
much worse than the tamamo one, probably owing to the complex pose.
she's totally disfigured, mate.
for example, her crotch turns from her ribcage from a very unnatural angle, whilst she basically has no neck. her hand is gigantic and the arm too short.
her feet are monstrous and it looks like her legs are melted together in some sort of frankenstein abomination.
lovejuices are transparent not blue and dildos are straight.
draw through in the initial stages of the drawing if there is alot of overlap.
it seems like you tried to foreshorten but the limbs in question aren't even at an extreme angle to justifiy it
its that color because I dont have any other colors to use really
I hope to learn to draw so i can finally make my dream a reality
A katawa shoujo style dating sim where you romance circus freaks in 1920's america
double the heads you date, double the head (and heart) you get
inspired me to make a poorly drawn moongirl slaying a poorly drawn paladindu
Hey guys it's >>220673
Did I prevent the death she doesn't deserveioli?
This is why I never liked pencils, damn things just can't stay sharp for long enough to do the job.
I haven't drawn in very long but I tried to give an approximation of how its supposed to be right.
face is the worst offender, as its quite an important feature mishaps are easy to see.
her jaw and cranium are too sharp, she looks like those elves out of skyrim.
her features are misaligned and the nose is absolutely flat.
most jarring however is the placement of the neck and the head, atleast to me.
you seem to have gotten it into your head that a human being has a neck, but didnt consider that at certain angles like this one the head obscures the majority of the neck.
idk what happened to the resolution soz
Just in case someone wants to adapt them for dubposting.
After 2 days of study I have tried to draw the face of a cute cyclop because I wouldn't have to worry about the symetry or separation of the eyes.
It ended up looking like a bad drawn leela from futurama, but I have learnt that I suck at shading and I have no idea of drawing proper heads/hair/lips/noses.
Also the ears are horrible, If someone give me advice I will be very thankful
Draw a circle, then draw the rest of the owl-girl.
why does every beginner do these chins/jaws that you could stab people to death with?
look at the mia frontshot above your pic and see what gooks do different from that perspective, even if its not really godtier either
( animu nose in front is either nostril dots or a single dot, sometimes a shadow, jaw is rounded with only the chin being pointy )
also looooomis etc.
the 2 eyes above/ above left of the pic are actually quite nice for what they are, they convey the emotion well
Thank you for the advices. I will study a lot more before uploading another picture
i got really drunk and made a cute robot monstergirl
She seems nice, but how do you impregnate her?
Well clearly you just insert your information into her hard drive
hopefully this shittily drawn concept art can answer your question
Bought some pens and paper today. I'm drawing artistically for the first time since high school and man drawing is the epitome of that moment where you go "how hard can that actually be?" and then try it and oh god why is my hand not doing what I'm telling it to do and what the fuck is that thing on the paper. It's uncanny how much there is to fuck up. I used to be decent at drawing like a decade - decade and a half ago (on a child level obviously) and years of drawing nothing but quick scribbles of test arrangements, graphs and line drawings of molecules hasn't done any favors to what little I could draw.
That looks really good.
Can any of you anons give me some pointers on drawing fluffy things like fur, tails and all that
Lots of "stray" lines and curly marks.
Also, I drew a tetra-arm/cyclops/lamia mess. Pls bully.
The face looks a bit odd because of how straight it is, I'd recommend taking a look at skulls, plus it looks like you have no idea what you're doing with the torso, so look into the torso muscles as well. The nose is also too small, considering she's calling the viewer boyim :^).
That said, your hands are really fucking good.
>tfw know enough theory to critique others' work, but can't put it in practice
hands look pretty nice, but the torso is a bit strange. Also the tit's are a mite too round
mfw too lazy to draw hands so i just draw pirates and amputees
I was going for a kind of reclining pose with the torso. Guess it needs more contouring to bring it out. And was going for gravity-defying breasts; back to /loomis/ with me.
looks better than my drunken, sleep deprived scribbling
what the fuck am i doing anymore
When you're building the torso, first start by using basic shapes (like the 1st pic) and connecting them, then kind of draw the muscles and parts of the skeleton that stick out to guide you, then draw above those.
You don't need to do this all the time, eventually you git gud and don't need to do all that, but that comes after months/years of practice.
Also, have some other pics I found in my folder.
>one eye covered
>mask covering mouth and nose
Never give up! You can do it!
it sure is lucky that things that are convenient to my lazy ass are also endearing character design elements
>try drawing my waifu
>end up with an abomination and quit partway through
Guess I should git gud at drawing people and stuff in general before moving on to more complicated figures like Hellhounds
don't make the chins so sharp, make the sides of the chin curve a little to the point
sorry for the extra post
try studying human anatomy first before doing the exaggeration and stylization.
pic related is a good starting point for head shape
Any advice on shading and lighting would be appreciated. Human part is half assed but feel free to rip apart them apart if you want, I was mostly focused on the last half of the comic. I've always felt like I've been shit at highlights in general so tips and advice there would be welcome.
I'd up the contrast overall. Make the shines brighter on the slime, and make the darks darker on the human. And I'd take the time and use shading to define the hair better.
Don't do "pillow shading." Where its bright nearest the center and darker at the edges.
That just says you don't understand what you're drawing. Pick a light source and go with it.
not sure If I'm cut out for the art game, m8's.
So I'm thinking about trying drawing a humanoid figure soon. Where should I start?
Also, how do I get the motivation to sit down and actually draw it? I'm too damn scared that i'm going to fuck it up badly and spend too much time fussing over every line.
if you're worried about fussing too much, limit the time you give yourself until it becomes instinctual
pic related is just an overly simplistic sketch that can be whipped up in around 5 minutes, i do them as warm ups
You need practice, but you've got a good handle on facial structure. Next you should focus on hands.
dude it looks good. the sweater would probably bunch up a little around the waist if she's sat down
It's weird how cute this looks.
>when you bone her good
Okay, I'll stop now.
Hey, which software do you reccomend to use when drawing on PC? I have a h420 tablet that I use for osu so I have been thinking to try.
clip studio paint, sai (free trial for you poorfags) or photoshop for extreme tryharding
krita seems the best free alternative
Thanks, I'm going to give krita a try, it looks pretty good
Also, someone knows good tutorials for drawing on PCl? Like when should I use layers and other technics?
Will an expensive drawing tablet make me a good artist if I can't even draw a circle properly with pen and paper?
If your monitor has a resolution of at least 1920x1080, get a Huion Giano, it's cheap and one of the better drawing tablets there are.
>make me a good artist
In short, no.
Tablets are way more forgiving though. If you make a mistake, you can just ctr-z it, plus you can work with layers which is really useful both for learning and actual drawing. It won't make you a better artist, but it'll sure help you make yourself into one. If you have a couple hundred bucks laying around and either enough motivation or alcohol to force yourself to learn, it's a good investment.
not to mention the advantage of not needing other expensive drawing shit or photoscanners, if you want to upload your shit.
I'd also recommend the chinese knockoff wacom because wacom is already dogshit so buying the dogshit competitor will not make it any worse, only cheaper.
dont invest in a cintiq or something tho, the improvement is absolutely minimal to anything beyond a pro and its gimmicky at best.
you ll do without the 6 gorillion senstivities a cintiq provides tbh
Thanks for the advice. I hoped a tablet would offset my innate lack of talent somehow.
r/ing a Aussie with a arachnera in the background with "NOW THAT'S A BIG SPOIDA!" as text.
Try directly observing anatomy and go from there.
>study perspective (the book Perspective Made Easy is pretty good)
>see this nip's videos if your hand is shaky as fuck (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk)
>fuck around for a bit, drawing basic shit like houses and square stuff until you get the hang of it all
>study bones, muscle and general anatomy (proko's channel might be useful for this.)
How do I develop
I feel like every time I draw I overthink every individual bit and the drawing suffers for it.
Also, reposting for a more comfortable image size and reformatting
Style is not something to try for. your style will develop on it's own.
Focus on fundementals and techniques.
Or are we talking about the concept of styleization?
what is your opinion about drawing in a more "alternative" style? the basis would be the same, the mayor changes are proportions and facial structure…
something like this pics.
They're cute but making something like that lewd would be a little difficult I think.
both I guess. I can kinda see style developing in the way I draw but it sometimes feels like "one step forward, two steps back"
Uh? Style is just Anime Style, that's the endgame.
Tried doing that, somehow ended up with this instead.
would you a spider
What makes my drawing so shit?
You don't know shit and you're trying to brute force it, so that happens.
First things first, you should learn perspective and construction. Construction will help you simplify things into basic 3D forms, perspective will tell you how to represent those 3D forms in a 2D plane.
Perspective made easy is a good book for, well, perspective, and Loomis' books are really good to give you the idea of what construction entails.
After that it's just a matter of practice.
If you want to take it into depth, you should also learn anatomy, which is something you should learn anyway if you're going to draw people from imagination. There isn't an universal resource for it, but Proko's videos are really good. You should use another resource alongside it though.
Another thing is you should use blank papers instead of ones with lines. They'll only pollute your drawing and possibly disorient you.
Btw, what are you using to draw?
it looks like you're focusing too much on the lines and not the
object person. Try to think of her as a 3d object
you didnt look at the picture half the time, I can clearly tell
no matter how bad your perception even is, her mouth for example is smiling in the pic etc.
don't draw what you think a mouth should look like and compare it to what you see on the pic, simply copy the pic as good as you can
do that for countless hours and you ll develop a better sense of measurement, and learn how to draw what you actually see, too.
look at the picture more and at the end maybe even overlay it.
aim for accuracy/likeness for observational drawings
>What are you using to draw
I didn't put the mouth in because I eat ass drawing mouths, idk why
you shouldn't have more trouble drawing a mouth than anything else.
do not draw a mouth, copy the lines you see.
your aim is accuracy, you want to improve the extremely vital skill of measurement of relationships by eye.
if you cannot correctly judge the relationship between human features, no matter how good your eye is drawn and how many hours you've dedicated to rendering a perfect eye, it will still look out of place and uncanny
Sage because not a monster girl.
But I spent almost all of my day making a 2D shitpost. I might head this over to /v/ to see if anyone can webmify it.
I also might do a MG request but that's dependent on if i have the will to do it
What does /monster/ listen to while they draw?
I myself enjoying listening to some jazz while having some rain playing in the background.
Vid is one of my favorite artist.
Whoops didnt mean to sage
quebecois nationalist music
i am not quebecois
I usually download the whole discography of bands, so I just take a band and set it to random when drawing.
Usually it's either Judas Priest or Yngwie Malmsteen.
It wont hurt to keep going.
Make sure to refer to reference to check your anatomy/proportions.
Is there a place where the various monster girl stories(including shorts) are consolidated?
Not sure if touchfluffytail.org is it..
If it doesn't exist i'd be willing to go and host a site for write & drawfags so we can have it all in one place. It won't be a anything like a forum, more like a database.
>If it doesn't exist i'd be willing to go and host a site for write & drawfags so we can have it all in one place. It won't be a anything like a forum, more like a database.
We could use a site like this, especially since pastebins apparently get deleted if they're inactive for too long.
post ur prograss please also kill me
old post is old but this reminded me a couple useful pics
I can tell you right now from the two pic you're tracing it free-handed. That's what's fucking you up
Also to what other anons said upon your perspective and depth is in need of work. Also break down the pic into shapes and then flesh it out.
I drew this. Please post suggestions.
I'm not a great artist by any means, but I feel like can critique certain things.
Your lines are very 'scratchy', in the sense that they aren't smooth and continuous, which is as a result of you drawing smaller lines to make up much larger lines, especially on curves. Try drawing one continuous line instead, and do some line exercises if you don't have confidence in your pen control.
The face looks fine if a bit plain, though I'd personally lower the eyes a tad since they are supposed to be in the middle of the head. The neck lines are inconsistent with the way her head is positioned and her body is facing unless I'm missing something, so I'd recommend rethinking those. Her shoulders seem too broad and masculine, and her left shoulder is higher than her right. Her right arm looks really awkward, probably to do with the positioning and how it is both behind her breast and in front of her hips - try thinking about how the pose would work before drawing it, possible acting it out yourself? Hands/claws could use some work, but hands suck to draw so I don't blame you if you don't bother. Overall female anatomy seems alright, her hips are the right size and her legs seem passable, but I'd recommend studying it a bit more. Also, fix her left breast.
I'm fairly certain, given how you've drawn the muscles on her neck and stomach and the crease lines on the shirt, that you are adding lines for the sake of having lines, rather than thinking about why those lines would be there. Look into materials and how they fold around shapes/look at different angles/react to gravity/etc.
Monster portion looks alright, minus the maws having drawn on teeth as opposed to the teeth being individual objects. Girl portion could use some work. Not too bad for what I assume is someone getting the basics of anatomy, but there are definitely a lot of areas to work on.
>Want to be able to draw monster qt's
>Find beginner draw thread and think 'Maybe I can do it if I just try'
>Someone recommends drawabox for learning fundamentals of drawing
>Take a look at the website, and see how tedious it all seems
>Start drawabox and do every lesson in its entirety up to lesson 5 then skip to lesson 8
>Uncomfortable deletes every lesson after lesson 8
>Stop drawing for a while
>A month passes
>Browsing draw thread again
>Still wants to learn to draw
>People says drawing on the right side of the brain is helpful for newer artists
>Go out, buy it, and spend a week reading and practicing it
>Go back to draw thread afterwards with newfound confidence
>everyone recommends Fun with a Pencil
>Doesn't want to read it
>Eventually finally cave in and buy it because everyone is saying its helpful
>Read through it practicing a little bit here and there
>Gets into later chapters
>"I… I don't get it"
>Find tutorials online to help explain some of the topics the book tried to explain
>Get fairly well acquainted with perspective
>Eventually get tired of the book and move onto Drawing Heads and Hands because still want to draw monster qt's, and perspective isn't teaching me anything about it
>Read through the first 1/5th of the book
>Get really confused and frustrated with the skulls and muscle anatomy parts
>Find more tutorials online about anatomy and the basics of head drawing
>Starting to make sense
>Realize its been 6 months since you started
>Realize you still haven't drawn any monster qt's
>Realize sketch books are full of mostly lines, boxes, circles, insects, poorly done loomis 'blooks', and a shit ton of skulls and divided ball and plain heads
>Still cant draw qt monster girls for shit
>Realize how little you really accomplished towards your original goal
All I wanted was to draw stupid anime monster girls, and here I am learning human anatomy instead, finding out how to draw skulls in fucking perceptive, and how the muscles of the face control expressions.
I don't get it man… It all seems so complicated and the result always looks so trivial
Hey, at least you went through with drawing. I tried drawing then stopped because I constantly got autistic about each fucking line not being perfect. Have a big old art set in my room that I still haven't opened yet. Maybe I should try sketching or something simple first.
I wonder if there any decent guide for how not to be absolute shit or not give up after repeated failure of your shit scribbles?
I've been living alone for a good few years now, and I still make very sure to completely destroy all my sketches and drawings after they're done. A habit I developed living with my parents. I'd probably have had to kill myself if anyone found them.
It seems a pretty good compromise, you learn from your mistakes, keep the paper for a day or so, look at what you did wrong, try doing it better, and dispose of the evidence with extreme prejudice. Then you don't have to cringe when you accidentally find them in 30 years.
The amount of repetition this drawing stuff takes is pretty intense- shortcuts will never, ever work. You either put in the thousands of hours required to be able to draw your perfect monstergirl or you don't bother at all- even a natural cannot cut corners!
A lot of the links in the thread are dead an the tut posts are all over the place can we start a new threat with everything nice and organized and stuff?
Cool…. i guess someone should get to work on that.
I think all of us feel a bit too awkward to do it out of fear of fucking it up
Guess ill give a it a shot than
When i get home ill write up a post and download/copy all the tuts and working links
trying out a new style of drawing eyes
Admire how much I suck. I know I don't know how to draw but I'd like to ask for tips when drawing digital art.
Also, I can't make straight lines in a tablet, I have to draw a lot of small lines to make a big one
Way back there was a cryptid or something thread were an anon was questing for girls based on speculative zoology. I gave it a go.