/mu/ - Music

>>60242

You motherfucker! Take it back! ;_;

so now we're at it, what determines whether a genre is dead or not?

I don't blame the creators, they were just trying something new. Blame the bandwagoning fad faggots that jump on this shit and call it good. The same that has been happening with 80s synth revival. It creates unnatural levels of interest and eventually spreads to normies who forget about it in a year and it ends up even more dead than when it began.

Vaporwave is a dadaist genre, deal with it.

Vaporwave never died; it went into hiding

I had no clue that vaporwave is dead. I was thinking about making some vaporwave.

>>60242

it's not. However it's spread to normalfags this year as a meme. None of them actually understand it or get the joke but redditfacebooklol

>>60242

>>60242

What bugs me is when people criticize vaperwave and put up mac plus like its the spokes album for the whole genre

Meh I enjoy the bits of good sample music we got from it.

If anything it will definitely inspire a resurgence and evolve into new genres that actually use original compositions and real instruments and aren't just sample mixes made on FL Studio.

I still think it's alive.

Luxury elite and bl00dwave are the shit.

[Niponese] Groceries is also bretty good

>>60242

i agree fuck vaporwave. at least it was slightly less ridiculous than witch house but that isn't saying much

>>60296

What's wrong with witch house?

I like it

you just aren't aesthetic.

>>60311

Witch house to me can sound good. I just hate the edgy fucking shit that hordes behind it.

>>60242

Like it was said,the problem was shit user base.

The next one will be Death Grips.

>>60264

>Hotline Miami

>80's synth revival

I'm surrounded by hopeless plebs.

>>60248

It's really a shame because it had a lot of potential as an aesthetic before it got ran into the ground.

>>61854

Don't worry. I'm quite certain there will be a couple of artists who remember vaporwave for what it is and not for the hype around it, who are going to pursue the æsthetics just because they liked it.

>Who else is glad vaporwave is dead?

except for the fact that this shit's still here

if anything, braindead ecelebs will be what keeps this shit popular

Vaporwave wasn't "bad" it just didnt really have much to say as a genre. What itch does it really scratch other than being ironic.

>>60242

>I don't understand how this even got popular.

I've only recently listened to some vaporwave and I'm confused about this as well. It seems like such a weird thing to become trendy.

If it's like any other fad genre, something multitudes worse is going to take its place.

I like the sound of Vaporwave; it's nice.

I didn't get what the fuss was about until I glanced at the comment section on some of these albums. Needless to say, I completely empathise with you if you want to torch this fucking genre.

>>60291

This guys knows what's up. 2016 has already had some great vaporwave releases. The new Luxury Elite album is great. Virtual High End from Rez x Oscob is fantastic. Plus, new albums have basically been confirmed to be in the works for bl00dwave, 2814, and Vektroid, all of which will likely be killer. And I suspect we'll see new releases from 식료품groceries, Nmesh, and death's dynamic shroud.wmv at some point this year as well.

Vaporwave is CERTAINLY not dead.

Im glad. Time for Trumpwave.

https://tokyoexchange.bandcamp.com/album/trump

>>63225

If you think 8/mu/ is cancer you should try going back to 4/mu/

>this b8

OP only listened to MACINTOSH PLUS and then immediately criticises a whole genre and its subgenres in base of it. Fuck you OP.

>tfw tried to show some normies vaporwave and they laughed at me for listening to elevator music

>>63344

if normies laugh at it then it must be good

>>63344

That's what you get for trying to introduce music that is clearly not for normal people to normal people.

I tried it a couple of times and it's useless because: A. Every album is vastly different than the other and you can't simply pick one and have it represent a whole genre, and B. Vaporwave is the farthest thing from any form of traditional music due to the heavy sampling, abundance of deteriorating sound effects and lack of the usual structure (verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus chorus).

And remember that normies ruin everything and you're better off keeping them away from anything you like, for its sake.

>>63344

Normies call tons of shit elevator music. Once I showed Perfume to a grill and she said it was elevator music. wtf

>>63349

There'd better be some Vaporwave that samples Perfume somewhere on the net or I'd be disappointed

>>63380

I honestly disagree. Macintosh Plus is one of the only vaporwave albums I've ever gotten into.

>>63354

Capsule's first album has a more 90s retro feeling, Perfume is already too ultramodern by itself.

Vaporwave is fine but just like everything the people who latch onto the memes are fucking cancerous

>>63465

this

>>60242

Vaporwave is basically just a modern ripoff/copy of what DJ screw did in the 90s and early 2000s.

There's nothing new about slowing down 80s music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXS-Nd29pp0

Liking any genre is fine, that's not the issue.

It's the types of people that for some reason think that what genre they like has to define who they are as a person.

So they replace their lack of a personality by hopping on a bandwagon or going full retard and driving the genre into the ground.

Vaporwave specifically, I'll still listen to occasionally. Just because normalfags caused an abundance of shit vaporwave

to pop up doesn't there wasn't originally some decent quality stuff.

>>63482

what about lolicore?

I like hypnagogic vaporwave and future funk, the experimental stuff sounds shitty to me most of the time. Call me a faggot.

>>63497

You're a faggot.

But not for not liking it, because experimental stuff isn't really meant to sound good. Experimental stuff is meant to explore what one can do, sometimes it sounds good and sometimes it sounds shit. But it's quality isn't really measured by how it sounds, but by how creative the technique is. If it sounds good, there will probably be someone who'll apply it in a non-experimental way anyway.

>>63498

Except the vaporwave technique is not that creative. There are some good experimental vaporwave artists out there but most of it is the classic "slowed-down Diana Ross songs" vaporwave cliché. That's why I don't like most of the experimental vaporwave out there.

>>63349

This tbh. If it doesn't sound like pop trash and it's just a bit chill: "lel its elevator musics". I had someone tell me that for Nujabes. Fucking hell.

>>64114

>he's only 21

>he calls himself oldfag

>>64116

Compared to people 5 years younger than me, I feel like an oldfag

>>64114

STOP POSTING THIS SHIT EVERYWHERE

I'm glad it introduced me to Future Funk.

>>61814

>implying death grips isn't already normie cancer

>>63225

>>63239

If you're butthurt that nobody here will play along with your LOL A E S T H E T I C shit then leave. It's dead because it's in the clutches of 13 year old normies, it's not a genre any more, it's a meme.

>>64531

>it's not a genre any more, it's a meme.

every genre is a meme

deal with it

>>64547

tell me how modal jazz is a meme

>>64548

using musical modes rather than chord progressions is a meme by definition

>meme: an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture

therefore the fact that modal jazz is all elaboration on the same idea that has been done by many many people in imitation of each other makes modal jazz a meme

>>64547

Sure whatever you say, but people only like it to be a part of the culture, not for the music itself.

Vaporwave isn't dead, it was never alive.

But I really like some vaporwave

Now hear me out for a second

I like the old 80s to mid 90s synth T.V. bumper sounds, it makes me nostalgic for that era, and there's just something very vague and mysterious about the old VHS sounds that I like listening too, almost like I picked up some random VHS tape at some hole in the wall thrift store from some third world Soviet Block country and started listening to it

I like it for the same reason I like listening to Numbers Station recordings, just for the kind of vague industrial sounds

I don't like it as a serious genre to really get into though, don't get me wrong

>>64527

Normies brought it to the mainstream and actually liked it, started to overuse it and made it a meme, killing all original purpose it had.

>>63344

>>63346

>>63349

Wait, normies use Elevator Music as an insult to certain genres?

That doesn't even make any sense, elevator music coveres a wide variety of genres and is characterized by its non-offensive neutral sounds full of mids with a simple melodic structure, and bit all elevator music is bad…

>>63498

>because experimental stuff isn't really meant to sound good.

>it's quality isn't really measured by how it sounds, but by how creative the technique is.

We found the guy who thinks ARF is meant to be serious.

>>65495

nobody takes experimental music seriously, you're missing the point. Experimentation is exactly what it sounds like, and that's trying a fuckton of different sounds and melodic structures that you or perhaps nobody else has done before so you know what sounds good and what doesn't, that's it, otherwise you'd never know what you're capable of and are stuck making radio tunes for the rest of your sad life

It seems retroactively worse and worse by the day because the field of focus slowly narrows. When it was in its heyday, it had many different styles and a lot of people experimenting with it. Music, art, style, even distribution differed for each artist. You knew it wasn't going to become some real genre but it was entertaining.

Then the innovators left and the only ones left were Mac+ clones and everyone concluded that vaporwave was dead.

Then the memers latched on and held up Mac+ like it was the fucking Holy Bible.

Now you're hard pressed to hear anything but that 420 song from it, the word ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣＳ (they don't even bother with full width text which ruins the whole point), and pictures that rip off the album art.

>>65429

It's a shame nobody ran with ECO VIRTUAL's style. Reminds me of the Weather Channel back in the day when they did nothing but show the forecast.