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8chan News Board Ring: /pn/ - Politics and News - /politics/ - Politics

File: 1456861939296.jpg (62.65 KB, 640x638, 320:319, 1456181254335.jpg)

 No.323859

The issue is not about the quality of healthcare, or the access for everyone. The issue at hand is getting everyone into the system, and collecting data enough to “label” individuals with rather – ahem, disarming – disorders that can and will cancel your right to own a gun, and may even force you into drug treatment and mandatory “therapy.”

More and more, the terms that are used will define a person’s access to constitutional rights – police calls will include information about mental health states, particularly if there is a history of violence or mental disorders. PTSD will be used to take guns from the very veterans who fought for our freedoms, at the very time when they need help not demotion in society. Telling your doctor how you really feel is a sure path to possibly being categorized and disenfranchised.

Is this what the founding fathers had in mind when they stood up for the rights of the people to defend against tyranny? Absolutely not… but it is exactly what we stand to get under Obamacare.

http://archive.is/6Y9J7

Since 2002, the government has been intent on testing millions for mental illness. This obsession even extends to our veterans as they return from combat and leave the service. The veterans are increasingly being diagnosed as having PTSD and they are subsequently being adjudicated to not being eligible to own a firearm.

These practices are reminiscent of how the Soviets used to imprison political enemies. The Soviets simply said if anyone disagree with the government, they must have “political schizophrenia” and required to have treatment in a mental healthcare facility.

Therapists are drawing upon a very new frontier in order to force people into treatment as psychiatrists invent new “illnesses” such as “Oppositional Defiant Disorder.” The ultimate goal is the mass medicating of the American people. And with a judgment of mental illness, this is Obama’s latest strategy of gun confiscation.

http://archive.is/Pmgha

Your ObamaCare plan will be forced to pay for it, whether you want it or not, thanks to the federal government’s commandeering of the health-insurance industry under the so-called Affordable Care Act. And eventually, younger and younger children will be in Big Brother’s crosshairs for mental and behavioral health “services,” whether parents want it or not.

The latest demands come from the United States Preventive Services Task Force, or USPSTF. In gestapo outfit, appointed by the Obama regime's increasingly radical Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), recommends various unconstitutional federal 'health' policies for fascist dictatorships to decree into pseudo-law via regulation.

http://archive.is/JftMk

Mandatory depression screening will not just raise insurance costs. In order to ensure that the screening mandate is being properly implemented, the government will need to create a database containing the results of the screenings. Those anti-gun politicians who want to forbid anyone labeled “mentally ill” from owning a firearm will no doubt want to use this database as a tool to deprive individuals of their Second Amendment rights.

Mandatory depression screening will endanger people’s health by increasing the use of psychotropic drugs. These drugs often have dangerous side effects. Their use has even been linked to suicide. The fact that almost every mass shooter was on psychotropic drugs is another good reason to oppose any policy that will increase reliance on these medicines.

http://archive.is/36bxP

Make no mistake about it, the Government panel’s recommendation, if it finds its way somehow through Congress, is an underhanded way for the Government to implement gun control. In addition, there’s no doubt that one of the big drug or hospital corporations has devised some sort of “depression screening” protocol which generates very high margin profits.

https://archive.is/B1MeQ

Once freedom-minded Americans learn about this, how many do you think will trust their doctors not to "out" them to federal law enforcement? How many legitimately mentally ill people who own guns will go seek treatment?

https://archive.is/EQfZ4

The White House released a fact-sheet Jan. 4 which previews the executive gun control Obama will unveil Tuesday and one aspect of the new controls is the inclusion of “information from the Social Security Administration in the background check system about beneficiaries who are prohibited from possessing a firearm.”

On July 18 Breitbart News reported on Obama’s push to ban gun-possession for Social Security beneficiaries who are believed incapable of handling their own finances.

https://archive.is/Y3ZdU

An aggressive anti-gun campaign that already has named veterans and recipients of Social Security benefits as targets apparently is being expanded to include foster parents.

And it’s already drawn a lawsuit.

https://archive.is/JSLRN

 No.323887

Well this is sliding pretty fast. I wonder why?


 No.323896

>>323859

Everything archived here comes with different sources + links to backup what they write.

There is no doubt about it anymore. Those who 'doubt it' are 100% disinfo shills. They want our guns. They want us disarmed. They are not giving up. End of story.

Resistance needs to be kicked into high gear or we lose.


 No.323917

Oh good. THIS thread again. I was worried; I didn't see it for almost 15 minutes.


 No.323919

>>323917

Slide harder m80, I'm sure those government disinfo shekels must keep you eating the good ramen ;)


 No.323922

>>323919

Yes, I'm obviously sliding this thread. That's why I keep bumping it.


 No.323926

What do you need a gun for redneck?


 No.323928

And people called me crazy to even suggest that they would use Obamacare to try and disarm the populous.


 No.323946

>>323926

to shoot faggots that wanna boss me around and decide for me how I should live or if Im allowed to own a gun or not


 No.323949


 No.323951

>>323926

The 2nd Amendment is to give civilians the tools to protect themselves, their families and to resist abusive tyranny if absolutely necessary.

Without the 2nd Amendment, all other rights would have been 100% defunct a long long time ago.


 No.323953

>>323926

if the standoff in Oregon is of any evidence, it's that guns can still defend American citizens from the government.

come on, are you really going to argue about freedom on 8chan?


 No.323954

first link is a blog radio show article dump and includes ads for:

>EVERYBODY PANIC YOUR LAUNDRY SOAP CONTAINS CARCINOGENS

>An ad that literally reads "With World War III ready to begin, shouldn't you be storing food?"

Second link's sources are all from itself, doesn't link or cite to anything external. Good thing only liberals have echo chambers, right?

Third link is Infowars.

Fourth link is tinfoil to the extreme

>fails to acknowledge things as simple as the fact that "depression" has a legitimate medical definition.

>Spends the next 90% of the article shilling for people to invest in precious metals.

Of course, these guys are also the leading authority on how, where, and when to buy precious metals, since they have a book. More monies, please!

The fifth link uses these nouns unironically:

>Patriots

>Constitutionalists

>Lamestream Media

It descends into ad hominem before it's even half-over. It feels on oddly commanding urge to call out other news outlets "extremely biased." Not necessarily lost points, but certainly feels like overcompensating insult to sway opinion. Also makes a quote from politico out to be the epitome of evil, without bothering to note that it is remarkably similar to existing "danger to self or others" clauses of doctor-patient confidentiality.

Generally poor journalism, is my point here, I suppose.

Sixth link literally only talks about how people too incompetent to drive or hold conversation won't be allowed to own a gun. You know, so they don't shoot you, your dog, or themselves on accident.

But if only the nursing homes were armed!

The seventh link would actually have my support, if not for this little gem of an ad:

>The biblical mandate for armed self-defense – especially in church! Get “Shooting Back” today!


 No.323958

>>323951

So why exactly does someone too incompetent to make their own oatmeal, either by mental capacity or desire to climb into their oven every time they turn it on, need to own one? In a revolution situation, they're a liability to others. In peacetime, they're a liability to themselves.


 No.323959


 No.323966

>>323958

If you actually read some of the articles, you would find out it's not just targeting people with disabilities … it is targeting millions of Americans. Anyone labeled with any kind of disorder / mental disorder *including new labels such as "Oppositional Defiant Disorder" (which never previously existed in the books).


 No.323969

>>323966

>Oppositional Defiant Disorder

This means they can claim "resistance" or someone with a bad attitude as unfit to own firearms.

Also included - people with mere depression! That effects millions of Americans right now.


 No.323972

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lmaooooooooooo


 No.323993


 No.324022

>>323951

How comes 90% of the people dont need a gun to defend themselves?


 No.324253

>>324022

Look whats happening to the women of Europe (who are disarmed). Then get back to me and say that.


 No.324259

>>323859

>look mommy, I posted it again


 No.324269

>>324259

I could care less if you don't like it either.


 No.324333

File: 1456879732178.jpg (24.15 KB, 320x240, 4:3, 1369466585541.jpg)

>there are shills on 8chan trying to defend the loss of freedom on an imageboard meant as a liberating alternative to 4chan


 No.324345

>>324333

yes, there are.


 No.324366

File: 1456881933039.webm (1.61 MB, 360x360, 1:1, shitsfucked.webm)

>>324333

>we live in a world where there needs to be a 'liberating alternative' to 4chan

>tfw this is how bad things have gotten


 No.324414

>>324366

The disinfo ops are here to keep people like us from debating important issues. So they'll keep sliding threads like this with constant indian shit posting and crab panic. Disinfo operatives don't want people waking up and proposing solutions. I post news here to try to wake people up out of their slumber (and to piss off disinfo ops).


 No.324415

>>324414

Also, notice how disinfo ops are no better than SJWs. They claim they don't want censorship, but when you post something controversial they'll complain about it.


 No.324680

>>324333

maybe some of them from 4chan navigated to 8chan to post bullshit threads in attempt to ruin this site


 No.324808

>>324366

>chkd

>this is how bad things have gotten

i blame m00t


 No.324834

>>324333

The enemies of freedom follow freedom to destroy it.

They use freedom to destroy freedom.


 No.324897

>>324834

Just ban spammers is all it takes. Same as the government, the moderator has a 'sword' to use. Against the crab shitposter for example.

You can have freedom of discourse and interchange w/o claiming that welcoming invading hordes 'in the name of freedom of speech'.

Every entity has a fundamental right to protect it's sovereign domain from invasion–even a board owner.

>>324414

>So they'll keep sliding threads

Then keep bumping them anon. It's harder on them than it is on you!

:D


 No.324919

>>324897

God I wish I knew how to become a mod.

As someone who is here almost 24/7 (Im on unemployment) I would take swift action in closing down the crab threads.

Where I would rather moderate is /b/.

I would keep the pony threads and non nude kid threads at 1 at any time.

The mods need to encourage originality lest this site becomes 4chan


 No.324923

>>324919

Your policies are 4chan.

Just go be a janitor over there.


 No.324924

>>324923

No they are not.

You are probably just a spam poster.

I never said I would censor.

I would bring spam threads down to 1 at a time.

Go fuck your mother


 No.324925

>>324924

Yeah, you got me


 No.325230

>>324897

Spam does need to be regulated, I agree. I don't mind a few spam threads here and there but they are being posted every single day and are being bumped continuously to slide actual news threads. This is why I call them disinfo ops.


 No.325281

File: 1456939801002.jpg (132.87 KB, 700x496, 175:124, nutjob_large.jpg)

>>323859

picture related


 No.325405

The 'progressive' commies just don't get it and never will. Over half the population in America is armed. This country was founded by the right to bear arms for self-defense. Its in our genes. You try to take away our guns, we will resist it and will keep calling it out and warning people. We will not give up our guns without a fight. Its ruining all credibility and support for liberalism.

Might as well stop trying to take our guns, no?


 No.325667

File: 1456955944396.png (297.58 KB, 765x607, 765:607, 1456285017049.png)

Repeal this BS!

Vote for Trump!


 No.325737

Bumping


 No.325741

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 No.327603

real bad


 No.327613

Imagine This: Freedom, Completely Voluntary, You Get A Choice, More Incentives To Make Insurance Cheaper!

https://archive.is/XXC5m

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform


 No.328355

>>325405

>Might as well stop trying to take our guns, no?

They won't. So it requires constant warnings to be posted every time there is a new threat. Then the commies will blame those who post the alters. That's their own fault for supporting gun grabs in the first place.

Required bump.


 No.328541

anti-slide


 No.330511

just another reminder


 No.330518

File: 1457332586714.png (242.36 KB, 522x428, 261:214, 1453307646243.png)

EVERY THREAD MUST BE ABOUT NSA SURVEILLANCE-LOVING DONALD CHUMP

EVEN THE SHILLCEN THREADS THAT NOBODY TAKES SRS


 No.330554

>>330518

Stop being so butthurt by the truth.


 No.330575

>>330518

>donald chump

don't you mean Drumpf? Or did that meme turn out to be weak as piss after all?


 No.330576

File: 1457334724842.gif (1.55 MB, 350x240, 35:24, cant_wont_stump.gif)


 No.330628

Thank fuck I'm too poor to afford that overpriced "affordable" bullshit.

Thanks Obama, your shit policies made me immune to your other shit policies.


 No.330634

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>>323954

>Getting triggered so hard by fucking sidebar ads on news sites


 No.330645

File: 1457337658970.jpg (31.01 KB, 603x242, 603:242, Donald_Trump_Stop_Videogam….jpg)


 No.330655

>>330645

He's not going to ban your video games faggot. Even if he wanted to there would be to much dissent.


 No.330660

File: 1457339056665.jpg (28.39 KB, 274x270, 137:135, TSA.NutsAboutSecurity.jpg)

>>330655

>too much dissent

lol, k


 No.330691

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>>323954

My Sides at this!! I do this for a living and I regularly talk with other entrepreneurs about buzzwords and psycho triggers. My sides!!


 No.334306

bumping back to the top


 No.340074

What a disaster, it will get repealed.


 No.340114

>>323859

The jews use arguements like this to strawman the united states into being a healthcareless third world country by appealing to the uneducated with a poor grip on constitutional history.

Most of the western world has healthcare systems that are tax funded, here in america you have to pay for an ambulance.

the idea that this will lead to the confiscation of guns is fucking absurd.

Testing people for mental illness is needed to root out psycho killers that the usa excels in.


 No.345000

>>340114

>The jews use arguements like this to strawman the united states into being a healthcareless third world country by appealing to the uneducated with a poor grip on constitutional history.

Bullshit. Nice scapegoat.

>Most of the western world has healthcare systems that are tax funded, here in america you have to pay for an ambulance.

That all depends, some people are covered well, many others are not. Healthcare went from bad to worse in America, not the other way around.

>the idea that this will lead to the confiscation of guns is fucking absurd.

Bullshit. Legislative gun grabbers are trying to use every legal loophole they can and are still doing trying to create more loopholes today. This is part of the reason the ACA (obamacare) was so damn secret in the first place. They don't want people to find this stuff out before its too late.

>Testing people for mental illness is needed to root out psycho killers that the usa excels in.

Its unconstitutional to force people into mandatory mental screening if they have done nothing wrong. Its the very definition of a fascist police state. Why don't we build a wall instead of allowing total amnesty? Less terrorists and criminals would be flooding into our country if we had sane immigration policy. Again, the government causes the problems and they offer complete bullshit 'solutions' to justify their police state.




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