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File: 1456969751835.jpg (372.61 KB, 950x800, 19:16, Genetics.jpg)

 No.325964

Genetic Engineering & NanoBioTechnology

We are rapidly approaching an era when it may not only be possible but also insuppressible that people will be able to modify their genes at low cost.

>Genetic engineering is probably the area of systems biology about which the general public has most awareness. One of its sets of tools is CRISPR, a genome-editing system that enables scientists to change the expression of genes in living cells.

>Genetic engineering is currently an immature and imprecise science. Scientists cannot forecast all the impacts of a particular genetic modification. They do know, however, that many modifications come with strings attached. For instance, a genetic modification to establish HIV resistance would also increase susceptibility to West Nile Virus, not to mention that the changes are permanent and heritable.

>“It has been only about a decade since we first read the human genome,” MIT biology professor Eric Landers said. “We should exercise great caution before we begin to rewrite it.”

>But with investment in CRISPR/Cas9 in the billions, the technological problems with genetic engineering will soon be solved, and gene editing will be used not just to fix but also to improve our bodies and minds. Parents might choose their child’s hair color, athleticism or intelligence, heralding in the era of “designer babies.”

>Many fear that when we can select our children’s traits, humanity will be commoditized and therefore subject to the pitfalls of capitalism — that marketers will influence “genetic fashion trends” and that the costs of genetic enhancement will further divide the poor and the rich. But few, if any, technologies ever start out cheap and accessible. Only with years of market demand and innovation does price go down and supply go up. Genetic technologies are no exception.

>Even if designer babies lead to intellectual inequality among the population, this inequality is not inherently bad. Smarter kids would grow into better scientists, engineers, doctors and teachers. “Generosity genes” and other altruistic alterations could make for better citizens.

>Fixing the genetic lottery may take some of the variety out of life, but improving a child’s life is more important. We’ve controlled the genomes of many species in one way or another for decades to stabilize and improve them. From corn to cattle, genetic engineering is central to our well-being. Controlling our own genes would be a good next step.

https://archive.is/U2HqF

A comprehensive system of Genetic Engineering necessarily includes Molecular engineering.

>The field called synthetic biology is all about improving on Mother Nature, creating components of living things that evolution hasn’t. In two studies published in Cell on Thursday, scientists reported doing just that: They synthesized new forms of a molecule that stretches from the inside of a cell to the outside. In so doing, they took a step toward improving on a new cancer therapy that is shaking up oncology.

https://archive.is/hZfFV

In decades to come, however much the well meaning worry about the nefarious applications of gene editing, the needs of the sick will continue to drive science and medicine forward - as they should.

 No.326003

>>325964

So, as someone who got my understanding of genetics from shit like GATTACA, I don't know much.

Would genetic modification be able to say, for example, eliminate my need to wear glasses?


 No.326005

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Genetically engineered catgirls soon?


 No.326010

>>326005

It's illegal in the US to create an animal-human hybrid.


 No.326013

>>326010

Blackmarket


 No.326016

>>326013

Why do that? Just wait for the furries to campaign for a repeal to the bill.

After all, catgirls are just Japanese furries.


 No.326026

>>326016

That's not true. Catgirls are more accepted than furries and not as weird since Catgirls still have more human features which make them more alluring. Furries are more beastiality orientend than the human part.


 No.326190

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>>326016

Hey, fuck you bub.

Furries and Cat Girls are completely different.

Furries want beast men/beast women.

Us Cat Girl folks just want loyal girls with fluffy cat ears/tails (maybe claws/whiskers depending on who you ask, but that's the limit), the intelligence level of a teenager, energy/hyperactivity of a child, and libido of a nympho.

Is that too much to ask for?


 No.326238

>>326003

probably not. but i could make it so your children wont have too.

If you are like me and need glasses due to week cornea muscles, then it would take quite a bit of time for the cells with the old genetics to be replaced with cells with the new genetics. So after maybe a year or so you would see results but you can at least be sure your children would not have it if the code reaches your reproductive system.

>implying an 8chan user would get with a real women.


 No.326919

Didier Raoult of Aix-Marseille University in France and his colleagues discovered a new kind of virus lurking inside single-celled protozoans back in 2003. Like other viruses, it couldn’t grow on its own, lacking the biochemical machinery to build proteins and genes. Instead, it had to infect host cells and use their material to produce new viruses.

But this new virus was enormous, measuring hundreds of times bigger than any previously known virus. What’s more, it was far more complex. Typical viruses may have just a few genes. The new virus had over 900 — more than many species of bacteria.

Since then, Raoult and his colleagues have found over 150 different kinds of giant viruses all over the world, in oceans, mountains, and the bodies of animals (including our own). One kind of giant virus contains over 2,500 genes.

Exactly what giant viruses do with all those genes has remained mostly a mystery.

But on Monday, Raoult and his colleagues reported in Nature that some of those genes provide giant viruses with something never observed before in a virus: They have an immune system, one that works a lot like the CRISPR system in bacteria that scientists have co-opted as a powerful gene editing tool.

>the potential for such a system to be harnessed for genetic control is intriguing

>Raoult and his colleagues first discovered that giant viruses get infected with viruses of their own back in 2008.

These so-called virophages slip inside the giant viruses and hack their biochemistry, much as the giant viruses do to their own protozoan hosts.

>One of these virophages, called Zamilon, infects a type of giant virus known as a mimivirus. But when Raoult and his colleagues unleashed Zamilon on closely related strains of mimiviruses, they were surprised to find that it couldn’t infect them.

>It appeared as if the giant viruses could defend themselves against their enemies.

Raoult and his colleagues wondered if giant viruses were using a CRISPR-like defense system against Zamilon. To their surprise, they found that resistant giant viruses carried small pieces of the virophage’s DNA in their own genomes. When they searched the DNA that surrounded the Zamilon sequences, they found a gene that unwinds DNA, and another that slices it.

>The scientists hypothesized that giant viruses used these two genes to chop up Zamilon DNA. To test that idea, they silenced each of the genes. Now, the giant viruses became vulnerable, and Zamilon was able to infect them.

>Raoult and his colleagues have dubbed this stretch of giant virus DNA MIMIVIRE, short for “mimivirus virophage-resistance element.” They propose that it serves as an immune system, although they have yet to determine how the giant virus recognizes virophages and directs enzymes to attack it.

“What we know is that it’s critical,” said Raoult. “If you silence the genes, it doesn’t work anymore.”

Raoult said that like CRISPR, MIMIVIRE might be worth investigating as another potential gene editing tool: “It is different, so it may have different applications.”

Even if that search bears no fruit, Raoult thinks that MIMIVIRE is important for what it says about the evolution of giant viruses.

https://archive.is/9lev1

MIMIVIRE


 No.326921

>>326005

>>326016

>>326190

fuck all dat when's muh monstergirls


 No.326928

>>326238

The technique used to distribute the modified genes via a retrovirus doesn't take very long iirc. Maybe a couple days? Waiting for the genes to be expressed on the other hand could take days, months or years, yeah.

>>326921

Lamias when?


 No.326931

>>326010

Fuck, is it? Time to become politically active.

I could use me a cute catboy


 No.327378

>>326928

correct

designer babies are relatively meek use of this technology compared to using it as a war tool to literally disfigure people or cause a rapidly mutating skin and intestinal cancer


 No.328064

>>326919

nice updates


 No.329407

>>326005

>>326016

>>326026

>>329190

>>326921

>>326928

>>326931

> You meet a woman with wolf ears atop her head and soft gray … fur … all over her body. She smells very nice, despite her odor vaguely reminding you of a wet dog. She is interested in you and wants children. If you make her pregnant, she will be a fanatically loyal mother and wife.

> The catch: The retrovirus that changed her is sexually transmissible. If you have sex with her, you will also grow decorative wolf ears and soft gray fur.

> So, anon, do you accept her advances?


 No.329417

Haha fuck all you guys with CRISPR and that shit. Me and Vladomir have been working on some top tier retrovirals in my basement. We've successfully engineered one that reactivates the telomerase enzyme. If you don't know what that means, i'll see you all in 200 years.

>no igor you can't possibly

i'm not the only one

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/542371/a-tale-of-do-it-yourself-gene-therapy/

The price of doing so is pretty high. It would cost around >$750,000 if you wanted to replicate our lab at this point


 No.329422

File: 1457255406608.jpg (48.56 KB, 311x393, 311:393, furry.jpg)

Genetically engineered monster girl waifus when?

>>329407

>soft gray … fur … all over her body

>all over her body

Pic


 No.329432

File: 1457257357195.png (1.19 MB, 665x1182, 665:1182, Absolutely Solid.png)

>>325964

Bioshock when? Give me plasmids


 No.329549

>>329432

Depends what kind of plasmids you want.

A plasmid that stops your body breaking down muscles, letting them grow indefinitely huge as long as you eat enough protein?

Already done.

A plasmid that shots bees? No, not any time soon.


 No.329598

>>329549

You don't want to be like some people who's muscles never stop growing. You've got muscles in places you may not expect, and those won't stop growing either. I saw a TLC documentary of a woman who couldn't move her eyes anymore, because the muscles had grown too large.


 No.329623

>>329422

I'll do it if I get to become dangeriously cheesy.


 No.329630

It's a Brave New World anons.

Can't wait for genetically engineered inferiors to be the slaves of the eternal, digitized Jew when they perfect this as well as the singularity.


 No.329675

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>>326190

>the intelligence level of a teenager

Put a dial on her neck and count me in.


 No.329731

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>>326919

>virii with immune systems

oh ho ho boy

keep up the updates


 No.331542

>>329422

That was originally made for an ED user who ultimately accepted he's a furry.


 No.331919

>>329630

Why would you want that?


 No.331934

>>329417

Aging is more than just telomeres. Although I am intrigued.


 No.332122

>>329417

>It would cost around >$750,000 if you wanted to replicate our lab at this point

I bet you didn't bodge half of it.


 No.332130

>>329407

I'm a furry,so win win


 No.333066

>>332122

bodge only half? Not the whole lab? Come on, we're making furries here. You think we have any money?

>>332130

> "Oh anon! Finally someone who likes me for who I am! I've got to introduce you to the pack! We're having a barbeque next weekend! Can you come with me?"


 No.333075

>>329417

>We've successfully engineered one that reactivates the telomerase enzyme

lel. unless you actually got past the part where you didn't get a huge increased chance in carcinogenic-like growth, it's not special in any way. the reason why most labs don't do shit with telomerase is because it's a dead end. any changes to it only lead to a smaller lifespan instead of an increased one. get your homeworld done, ivan.

also, CRIPR is by far the best way of gene editing. i assume with retrovirals you mean something using the reverse transcriptase gene, which is retarded since it only allows tiny little bits of DNA editing. you are better off using a yeast shuttle vector, for god's sake.

>It would cost around >$750,000 if you wanted to replicate our lab at this point

HAHAHAHA nigga you serious? we have singular equipment that costs that much.


 No.333281

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I'm calling it now. There will be more blondes in Asia than in Europe.


 No.333314

>>333281

There will be people on the moon.


 No.333839

File: 1457570383385.webm (426.19 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, linkle.webm)

>>333075

>we have singular equipment that costs that much.

Does it 3D-print DNA though?

>>333281

I've already seen about that treatment - as soon as there's a way to make hair grow a different color bleachoblasts lol, you'll see South Korea becoming some sort of Nazi fetish land :)


 No.335333

>>333839

or youll see people getting smarter, who knows


 No.335608

>>335333

Sure, the government will certainly want it to go in that direction, so that everyone's individuality and free will is regarded as important, especially in east-asian countries, which value personal expression and freedom of choice so much, and are not bound to extreme materialism.

:^)


 No.335618

>>326190

>wanting 3DPD catgirls


 No.335622

CATGIRLS, WHEN?


 No.335636

>>326190

>Catgirls

You know they will age much faster than you

>Having to deal with a senile catlady

Nope, catgirls only work if you make em waifubots


 No.335641

>>325964

>Even if designer babies lead to intellectual inequality among the population, this inequality is not inherently bad. Smarter kids would grow into better scientists, engineers, doctors and teachers.

Yes, thankfully smart offspring of economically successful people go into sciences, not politics, or business. Yeah, right <:D


 No.335665

Okay who here will allow themselves to be genetically altered?


 No.335700

File: 1457726881762.jpg (153.03 KB, 500x448, 125:112, Party time.jpg)

>>335665

>allow

nigga, I'll CHOOSE to be genetically altered. I'll PAY for that shit, assuming I get to pick the alteration.

>heightened senses

>regenerative abilities

>IMMORTALITY

Transhumanism, here I come.


 No.336293

>>335608

are you saying people who exploit mass stupidity as a profession have a vested interest in keeping it status quo? ;)

i get what you're saying, but I don't think you can outright stop people from having smarter babies. they won't have to though. people will screw themselves over with this; give the power of god to a random retard on the street, watch what happens.


 No.336842

>>335608

>>336293

Quoting from the OP:

>One of its sets of tools is CRISPR, a genome-editing system that enables scientists to change the expression of genes in living cells.

>Genetic Engineering

This can be applied to adults. That means that unless you outright demolish current tech levels you can't stop people from getting their hands on it.

Alas, some parts of Europa might be deconstructing most of their high tech.


 No.337822

>>336842

antislide


 No.337864

>>335700

What the average person thinks when they hear "genetic engineering":

>hurpy durp I wanna be x-men!

What actually will happen:

>Brave New World


 No.337932

>>335636

She will be succeeded by her daughters.

And I will have my loving cat girl family.

And you will be stuck with a piece of tinfoil/


 No.337954

>>326921

Everywhere.

Granted they may not look it, but they are the ultimate evil.


 No.337995

>>326190

You got furfags all wrong. Go look at /furry/. Most want a dick up the ass plus whatever disgusting and unrealistic fetish they also have. The don't give a flying fuck about relationships, all they give a fuck about is sex. Then go look at the splinter board /fukemo/. They want pretty much what you want, except with the less diluted furry aesthetic.

Genetic engineering will only get you half way there to your goal. You will get the looks, but you will not get the personality. Look around you. We are living pretty much in Sodom, Gomorrah, or Babalyon. Degenerates and profligates as far as the eye can see would probably go for this genetic engineering so they can get closer to who they are on the inside. We can already see trannies getting on hormone therapy to change themselves over like that. These people, like otherkin for example, would be first in line to get this new treatment. The people we would like to get the genetic engineering, would likely not go through with it at all. If we wanted them, we would have to raise them ourselves in isolation from the rest of the world. Or we could wait for rope day and thin out the heathens and put whatever small minority of those that didn't die and would still like to be a cat girl through the operation. Other than that, you're shit outta luck.


 No.338029

Hopefully this can cure people of homosexuality.

Most Arabs and Indians and asians will try to make their kids white.

Niggers are incompatible due to being too closely related to monkeys


 No.339928

>>338029

Changing eye skin and hair color won't make them hwhite though.


 No.340260

>>339928

Exactly. Other than a few power hungry beasts that have millions of dollars no one will be doing this. To be so concerned with "becoming white" the would do it faster and easier just adopting orphaned whites.


 No.341431

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>>335636

Well, I do hope one of the things we figure out with genetics is not aging as much or not showing such age (just better skin would go a long way).

Else, you could have brain-in-a-vat cat-loli robot. Biological but genetically-engineered brain, body can be replaced, and you can "train" her to act like you want by setting up scenarios for her to live through for years before she even has a body.


 No.341437

>>325964

>INB4 chrisfags swoop in and ruin everything again like with STEM cells


 No.341450

>>341437

>ruin

Stem cells shifted to development from other established tissues instead of fetal tissue.

And most religious people I knew were fine with the research, it was the abortions they had a problem with .


 No.341467

>>341437

>Christfags ruin everything

>Christfag invents genetics


 No.342181

>>325964

>>342180

RACE DOES NOT EXIST

" But ancestry based on genes does "

https://archive.is/5iII1


 No.342244

>>341431

That's sounds ghastly.

I just want kemono to be real.


 No.342252

>>326921

>>326928

>>326931

>>329407

>>329422

Gas yourselves degenerates.


 No.342257

>>342252

Found the degenerate.


 No.342260

>>329407

Does she have a snout? Stuff with fur and no snout is creepy.


 No.342263

>>325964

Test post


 No.342355

>>342244

>I just want kemono to be real.

So you're ok with having something the size of a woman and the beauty of a goddess with the absolutely rotten parasitic personality of a cat?

Just seeing how little sense of loyalty a cat has (compared to a human even, let alone a dog) should be enough to forego ethical considerations.


 No.343227

The Genetic Engineering Appraisal Committee (GEAC), which examines the scientific merits of releasing genetically modified seeds into the environment, will consider making public, immediately, the results of tests and studies so far conducted to test the safety of transgenic (or GM) mustard.

Multiple sources told The Hindu that a decision to commercially release the seed was still some time away. Several members of the GEAC whom The Hindu contacted refused comment saying that they had signed an “oath of confidentiality.”

This comes even as several farmers’ groups and environmental activist organisations have alleged that the GEAC plans to allow GM mustard on farmer fields. “There is a scientific panel of experts that’s considering this … there is a lot of data but there are still some outstanding questions. We will take our time on this,” said a top official in the Ministry of Environment and Forests and Climate Change, requesting anonymity citing the sensitivity of the issue. The GEAC is constituted by the Environment Ministry.

Another official, who also didn’t want to be identified, said a risk assessment body — affiliated to the Ministry — had analysed the results of toxicity studies; the odds of gene flow into the environment, and the results of studies on animals.

“The data is voluminous and there have been meetings earlier this month discussing this ,” he added.

https://archive.is/E53bU


 No.343507

>>343227

>oath of confidentiality

Because it's so safe they can't even tell you how safe it is. So feel free to add a thick layer of it to your hot dogs.


 No.344270

>>343507

apparently so

Intellectual Propety is cancer


 No.344273

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>>337995

>The don't give a flying fuck about relationships, all they give a fuck about is sex

>imfuckingplying

kill yourself


 No.344275

Awesome. I predict that the most popular genetic mod will be the ability to regrow teeth because there's only one solitary gene that dictates whether you can regenerating more sets of teeth and that switch is flipped off.

Whether this will happen or not depends on how successful any particular lobby is in the future of this gene edit, however. There's bound to be a dentists' lobby that will shed a few crocodile tears amid cries of "You're playing gaaaawd! Won't somebody PLEEEEASE think of the dentists!"


 No.344302

Good pay for information


 No.344328

>>337864

>Brave New World

Or Bloodborne


 No.344424

>>344275

Is it that simple, though? Because thinking from an evolutionary perspective, being able to re-grow teeth in the time before toothpaste would have been a desireable trait.

Or, maybe our ancestors were calcium-deprived? I can't see why we wouldn't have that gene if there wasn't a trade-off.


 No.344443

File: 1458442805127.jpeg (26.76 KB, 255x229, 255:229, image.jpeg)

>mfw genetically altering non-white babies into Aryans.


 No.344544

>>342355

Prolly has his own specific version in mind

>>344273

>le sage is le downboat

lmao kiddo

Also

>opportunity to refute

>blowit with a thin skinned knee jerk reaction


 No.345145

>>344424

> I can't see why we wouldn't have that gene if there wasn't a trade-off.

probably 'cause our ancestors didn't kill things with their mouth. if their lives literally depended on having full rows of teeth, it might be a different story.


 No.345160

>>344443

That's a really bad idea, while having the first world countries implementing this technology would mildly risky, you need to keep pure humans around for genetic diversity purposes, so that if a problem arises from the technology, there's a backup to go to.


 No.345512

>>342260

> Because she changed as an adult, the coloration for a snout is there but she still has her original facial bones. Her children will have snouts with an improved sense of smell and all teeth reachable from the side.


 No.345630

>>344424

Our ancestors didn't live for very long. Average life expectancy was very low, Maybe people didn't live long enough to see their teeth start to fall out due to bad diets?


 No.346437

>>344275

>>344424

>>345145

>>345630

As long as our ancestors had children before dying from tooth decay, there was no evolutionary pressure in favor of regenerating teeth.

The hard part will be ensuring that new teeth are only produced on cue, and not continuously. This is probably a role that dentists would play, although dentists might be reduced to "Your tooth is bad; I'll pull it so a new one can grow in."

Be careful what you wish for; you might get it. :)


 No.346443

>>344275

>>344424

>>345145

>>345630

As long as our ancestors had children before dying from tooth decay, there was no evolutionary pressure in favor of regenerating teeth.

The hard part will be ensuring that new teeth are only produced on cue, and not continuously. This is probably a role that dentists would play, although dentists might be reduced to "Your tooth is bad; I'll pull it so a new one can grow in."

Be careful what you wish for; you might get it. :)


 No.346447

>>346437

>>346443

Get nginx server error that the resource post.php is unavailable. Hit "reload" to resubmit the form. Post appears twice anyway, despite being absolutely identical. I'd at least expect some kind of filter against double-posting. Is that too much to ask?

side note to mods: I'm fine with this post and either of the double-posts being removed




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