No.330941
Despite all the blatant lies by the Obama regime (and Congress) claiming TPP will help create jobs, this just hit the news headlines:
Ohio lost 112,500 jobs in 2015 resulting from the United States' trade deficit with countries that are part of the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement, according to an analysis by the Economic Policy Institute.
That places Ohio sixth, in terms of the percentage of jobs lost to trade with TPP countries, among the 50 states and the District of Columbia ranked in the report released Thursday by the liberal Washington, D.C.-based think tank. The lost jobs represent nearly 2.2 percent of employment in Ohio, according to the analysis.
The total number of lost jobs includes those directly and indirectly impacted by the trade deficit with TPP countries. It also includes the number of jobs EPI says would have been created through the multiplier or "respending" effect had trade with those countries been more balanced.
The Obama Administration says the trade agreement would be good for workers.
"With the TPP, we can rewrite the rules of trade to benefit America's middle class," states whitehouse.gov. "Because if we don't, competitors who don't share our values, like China, will step in to fill that void."
However, the EPI report says the middle class has already been hard hit by "unfairly traded goods from TPP member countries."
• Michigan (214,600 jobs lost, equal to 5.12 percent of employment)
• Indiana (103,800 jobs, 3.54 percent)
• Kentucky (53,700 jobs, 2.92 percent)
• Alabama (46,000 jobs, 2.32 percent)
• Tennessee (61,000 jobs, 2.19 percent)
• Ohio (112,500 jobs, 2.16 percent)
• Mississippi (22,000 jobs, 1.86 percent)
The other states on the list suffered major job losses, but they were influenced "by the collapse of the oil industry and related sectors," according to EPI.
• Oklahoma (35,300 jobs, 2.10 percent)
• Wyoming (6,800 jobs, 2.34 percent)
• Alaska (6,300 jobs, 1.83 percent)
Remember folks, Donald Trump is the only candidate who has warned us about this. If you want the TPP to be repealed and nullified, vote for Trump!
http://archive.is/xUjgn
http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/03/ohio_lost_112500_jobs_due_to_t.html
No.330958
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>Remember folks, Donald Trump is the only candidate who has warned us about this
[citation needed]
No.330965
>>330958
He did say that the TPP was bad for America and that he's nationalist and wants to bring the jobs back. No idea if he's the only one who said it or others also said something similar, I'm not from burguerland.
No.330967
>>330941
>>330958
Bernie not only opposed TPP, he wants to repeal most of the other trade agreements that enable outsourcing, and possibly punitively tariff companies that continue to do so, to force them to produce domestically.
No.330971
>>330967
>trusting the bern
No.330978
>>330967
Well I've often heard a good argument made: if you are a democrat, vote for Sanders, and if you are a republican vote for Trump.
Sounds logical to me.
No.330979
>>330967
>Trusting what a socialist commie scum bag says
>Also says he wants everything to be free and supports BLM group
Hes a liar and a cuck. Socialists love globalism.
No.330981
>>330967
Yes, Bernie doesn't want us losing jobs overseas through trade deals, he want us to lose them through ridiculous tax rates.
No.330986
>>330981
Trump on the other hand wants to get rid of the income tax for the poor and lower middle class. Reduce the income tax for the middle and upper middle class. Increase the tax on the rich. And have a huge tax on companies that outsource our jobs that bring in slave-labor made products into America.
That's a pretty fucking logical policy.
No.330988
>>330986
I forgot to mention he would reduce tax on businesses that create American jobs as an incentive to prevent outsourcing of jobs.
No.330990
>>330965
>he said it was bad
When? Sauce? What is he going to do about it? again, all you're doing is reiterating your previous statement/rhetoric
Also other candidates said that too. Also, saying something that something bad is bad and happening isn't a warning. It's just bitching or in his case boilerplate.
>>330979
>trusting a man who inherited his wealth
No.331000
>>330990
How about you fucking google it you goddamn twat. Why do you expect everyone to spoonfeed you?
No.331002
Trump will axe Burgerland involvement in TPP
No.331007
>>331000
>he doesn't know what burden of proof is
No.331009
>>331000
>why should I have to research the politics I spew at people on buggy imageboards?
>it's not my job to educate you, shitlord
No.331010
TRUMP WILL END NSA SURVEILLANCE
No.331012
>>331000
>i'm going to make an argument then deflect burden of proof to anyone who challenges it
The Trips of Tumblr.
No.331013
>>331000
I checked google, and what you said was there wasn't there. You lose.
No.331014
So is this article trying to say that if we don't join the TPP, we'll lose jobs? Or is that just an accidental implication?
Something seems wrong here. It's assuming that our trade deficit comes soley from TPP, and not from other issues?
No.331017
>>330941
>Remember folks, Donald Trump is the only candidate who has warned us about this. If you want the TPP to be repealed and nullified, vote for Trump!
So did Bernie.
No matter which party you're registered with, you have no excuse voting for a pro-TPP candidate in the primaries.
No.331042
>>330941
>Michigan (214,600 jobs lost, equal to 5.12 percent of employment)
I'm surprised we have any jobs left to lose.
No.331047
>>331010
HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK NSA COCKS AND SO DOES DONALD CHUMP
EVERY THREAD HAS TO BE ABOUT MY PET RETARD
No.331150
>>331042
By these numbers unemployment should be up more than 1% in the past year, even under Obamas new definition of unemployment. Something smells not credible.
No.331156
>>330967
>trusting a jew who loves nigger cock and thinks poor white people don't exist.
No.331169
Misleading shill bull shit! The TTP hasn't been signed and ratified yet. These job losses are due to the complete mismanagement of your countries economy due to bending over for corporations and the whole sale selling of your politicians plain and simple. Compounded by spending so much that the States is one of the poorest 'rich' countries in the world. You don't take care of your citizens….China does.
No.331183
>>331169
Article is saying these jobs were lost to countries that would be included in the TPP, not due to the TPP itself. The TPP would make it even easier to outsource to them, so we'd lose more is the idea.
You're right about why they were lost.
No.331185
>>330941
Lol nice conspiracy theory there. Wait, I thought the contents of the TPP weren't available to the public yet. So how could we could the job fluctuation in a given state is somehow caused by it? Oh gee, two conflicting conspiracy theories that cancel each other out.
Get your story straight, conspiratard. The TPP is good for the USA, and if you are against the TPP then you are against the USA and that makes you a terrorist doesn't it? I seriously hope when Hillary seizes power that traitors like you who spread these dangerous lies aren't even afforded the luxury of a trial. Torture is illegal (for now), but here is hoping you get some "enhanced interrogation techniques" from our brave patriots that defend this country, which unfortunately triggers your undiagnosed heart problems.
No.331186
>>331169
TPP is a screwjob on the American workers just like all the other so-called 'trade agreements', which end up benefiting countries like China and India. ALL the past 'trade agreements' ended up outsourcing jobs.
No.331194
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>331185
>Wait, I thought the contents of the TPP weren't available to the public yet
It was leaked a good while ago now.
https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
No.331198
>>331194
Most people on /n/ don't pay attention to the news, sadly. So most wouldn't know this.
No.331205
>>331194
Has the government confirmed the so-called "leak"? No? Sorry you must be very naive to think the radical wingnuts at the agenda-driven EFF aren't above just making stuff up.
Besides, you realize that both Hillary and every single Republican candidate except for Trump think the TPP is a GOOD IDEA. You're not a racist Trump supporter are you?
No.331208
>>331205
TRUMP 2016
MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN
No.331211
>>331205
>You're pay friend
No.331212
>>331208
Sorry but I'm not a literal Nazi. Only literal Nazis support Donald Trump and are against the TPP.
No.331215
No.331219
>>331215
And you read every single one of these pdfs? Looks like there are hundreds of them. Or do you just assume it's bad because you're a racist and a black man is in the White House.
No.331223
>>331215
Oh wait of course you're a racist
>TRUMP 2016
>MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN
Only racists support Trump and are against the TPP. I'm not criticizing you, just stating a fact.
No.331231
>>331223
0/10 fam
mr.shekelstein won't pay you if your posts are all this unconvincing
No.331241
There's nothing wrong with being racist.
It has been proven at every opportunity that coloured people are inferior. It is unfair to them to expect them to be our equals. We should just send them back so that they can live among their own people in a manner that better suits them.
No.331248
>>331231
What are you even talking about?
All major media networks say all of Trump's supporters are racists. Even the REPUBLICAN PARTY says all of Trump's supporters are racists. This shouldn't be in dispute. Are you from /pol/? Why do you deny this, Trump being a racist should be a selling point for you.
Next, Trump is the only candidate who is against the TPP. All other Republican candidates AND Hillary Clinton support the TPP. Both Democrats and Republicans support the TPP. Except for Donald Trump.
Therefore, using simple logic…
1) One must be a racist to support Trump
2) Both political parties and all candidates support the TPP but Trump is against the TPP. If you support literally any other candidate you should be for the TPP.
3) Trump's supporters agree with Trump's positions (in the general sense the supporters of a candidate agree with that candidate's positions)
leads us to…
4) Only racists support the TPP
Basic logic, fam
No.331257
>>331248
>the jew controlled major media says X
>the jew co-opted/big industry friends say Y
>TPP is good for you goy :^)
seriously, you're gonna be eating cup noodles for the next month if you don't start making better posts, little goy
No.331258
>>331185
> Wait, I thought the contents of the TPP weren't available to the public yet.
They are now, since the law requires it to be public for 3 months before Congress can vote to ratify it.
Read it, and you'll see exactly why they kept it hidden as long as they could.
No.331259
No.331268
>>331257
>the jew controlled major media says X
>the jew co-opted/big industry friends say Y
>TPP is good for you goy :^)
This is how you dispute my evidence that only racists are against the TPP? really? Because you're against the TPP, and you sure sound like a racist /pol/tard
No.331269
>>331258
>They are now, since the law requires it to be public for 3 months before Congress can vote to ratify it.
Huh, I thought Pelosi said they'd have to pass it to know what was in it. What happened to that?
No.331280
>>331268
>racist
>racist
>poltard
you might not have seen this in the handbook they gave you on shilling, but bullshit labels don't work here famiolo :0
you really need to read up on shitposting if you want a good paycheck from Mr. Goldberg
No.331282
>>331002
How much you bet that trump chucked Kanye?
No.331290
>>331280
>uses terms like "Mr. Goldberg" "Jew controlled major media" and "good guy"
So again, my simple claim was that only racists are against the TPP. And here you are, against the TPP while claiming The Jews control all media, etc. And you're from /pol/ too I bet.
It's funny how every time you post, you end up supporting my argument.
No.331292
>>331269
a) she was wrong
b) what she suggested was illegal
c) Congress revolted, not liking the President shutting them out that way.
It's been more then 3 months, but there hasn't been a vote on it yet, because they know it won't pass. They're lobbying hard.
No.331294
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>>331248
>Next, Trump is the only candidate who is against the TPP. All other Republican candidates AND Hillary Clinton support the TPP. Both Democrats and Republicans support the TPP. Except for Donald Trump.
Bernie Sanders doesn't exist?
Typical Hillary shill.
No.331295
>>331292
>It's been more then 3 months, but there hasn't been a vote on it yet, because they know it won't pass. They're lobbying hard.
I remember when there was a vote against SOPA and they just waited a bit and then passed SOPA 2.0 without any press or fanfare.
Why aren't they doing that?
No.331297
>>331231
The guy is a Trump supporter trying to use applied strawmaning and memes to make you pro-Trump.
The best part is I don't think the Trump shills on 8chan are paid shills. They do it for free.
No.331298
>>331290
>It's funny how every time you post, you end up supporting my argument.
you do know i reply because this is fun to me?
You also know I am happy to be a racist?
Do you know nobody here is still taking you seriously?
If they were they'd reply with these "facts" you demand and simultaneously are incapable of citing, and debate you.
But no, you just have me, the insipid pro /pol/ shitposter that you can't gain ground with
unfortunately I have class to get to, so I'll let you try to make your living through Mr. Goldberg fam
>yfw you have yet to refute you are a shill
that's the final topping on the cake (^:
No.331299
>>331294
>Bernie Sanders doesn't exist?
Doesn't Hillary have double his number of delegates? Sorry, I was only talking about actual candidates.
No.331301
>>331295
Because it's a treaty, not a bill. Completely different set of rules apply.
No.331302
>>331298
>class
lol okay kid.
No.331303
>>331299
Not even trying to hide it? 0/10
No.331305
>>331298
>>331303
Please refute that you're a shill. 0/10
No.331308
>>331303
>>331305
just fuck already
No.331310
No.331330
>>331310
Don't you have remedial logic class to attend?
No.331375
He's right: only racists are against the TPP. If you aren't just dying to give your job to a poor minority, you're racist.
You must give them your jobs.
No.331400
>>331375
>He's right: only racists are against the TPP. If you aren't just dying to give your job to a poor minority, you're racist.
>
>You must give them your jobs.
Yes, exactly. I'm glad someone on this thread finally understands what I've been saying. This is literally the same narrative being woven across Europe with the immigrant crisis.
No.331406
>>331400
He's shitposting. Stop taking anything in this thread seriously. It's been ruined.
No.331423
>>331406
>He's shitposting. Stop taking anything in this thread seriously. It's been ruined.
I think you should consider the possibility that the level of discourse on this thread is simply operating above what your 20-something-year-old brain can handle. It's not your fault though, the education system going back to Bush has deliberately gone out of its way to prevent children from learning concepts like satire and irony, and instead taking all language at face value. Note that gutting nuanced language was explained in 1984 as a crucial step into eliminating independent thought.
You're welcome for the explanation.
No.331433
>>330990
Overreacting much? It beats wanting to pass the TPP… It saw it in a debate. If you search on google for "Trump on TPP" you get several videos of speeches and debates where he states his position. I guess you were not able to perform that 5 second task because you expended all your energy overreacting.
No.331459
You guys are morons if you think any president can fix this. Remember obongo and his change talk. Yea okay guys get your head out of your asses.
we're all fucked, welcome globalism
No.331464
>>331423
Oh, thank you. I never realized that there was someone so intelligent yet so humble that he would take the time out of his valuable day to educate a worthless prole such as myself.
No.331488
>>331464
>Oh, thank you. I never realized that there was someone so intelligent yet so humble that he would take the time out of his valuable day to educate a worthless prole such as myself.
See, you learned something.
No.331492
>>330967
Love how all the trumptards jump on this with >le jew may may, like having a dem who's against the TPP is a bad thing. Remember folks, opposing TPP is a bad thing if it's not a /pol/ approved candidate who's opposing it.
No.331494
>>331488
Such as you don't practice what you preach.
There's nothing nuanced, satirical, or ironic about anything you've posted. You're just an obnoxious shitposter who knows how to sound intelligent when you're trying to keep your ego from harm.
No.331511
>>331212
>Only literal Nazis support Donald Trump and are against the TPP.
No.331517
>>331406
>He's shitposting.
Actually, I'm explaining the mentality you schmucks are subjecting yourselves to by not rejecting, violently if necessary, the social justice culture.
No.331524
>>330941
Reminder that John Kasich is a supporter of the TPP:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/10/john-kasich-tpp-trade-deal-critical/
MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin — GOP presidential candidate Ohio Gov. John Kasich came out in support of the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement during the fourth GOP primary debate hosted by Fox Business, saying the deal is “critical.”
“The trade agreement – the TPP – it’s critical to us not only for economic reasons and for jobs because there’s so many people who are connected to getting jobs because of trade, but it allows us to create not only economic alliances, but also potentially strateigic alliances against the Chinese,” Kasich argued in support of the nearly 6,000 page agreement – longer than Obamacare and the failed Gang of Eight immigration bill combined.
No.331533
>>330958
>>330965
>>330990
Senator Jeff Sessions: Trump Presidency Would ‘Kill the Advancement’ of Obamatrade
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/02/29/sen-jeff-sessions-discusses-trump-endorsement-and-making-better-deals-for-america/
Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) appeared on Breitbart News Daily with host Stephen K. Bannon on Monday to discuss his endorsement of Donald Trump for President, noting that “a Trump election would kill the advancement of that Obama-negotiated [Trans Pacific Partnership trade] agreement.”
Donald Trump Declares War On Obamatrade
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/05/exclusive-donald-trump-declares-war-on-obamatrade-time-to-send-a-real-businessman-to-white-house-to-end-this/
The small business operators, farmers, manufacturers and others will again be burdened with unfair trade practices, currency manipulation, exploitation of cheap labor, an onerous tax code and no help coming from the very people charged with putting America first. If crony capitalism were not bad enough, then sticking it to unions, small businesses and everyday Americans seems to be the new blood sport inside the DC Beltway.
(…)
“If this was such a good deal, why was there not more transparency?” Trump said.
No.331537
>>331517
By articulating your… oh wait… you're one of those imbeciles who thinks it's not shitposting if you do it "ironically."
I'm sorry, you carry on in your own special little world.
No.331679
>>331330
>implying schools teach logic any more
Wouldn't want to get the kids into the habit of critical thinking.
No.331736
I dont understand, I thought the TPP wasnt even voted for yet?
No.331848
No.331859
>>331736
It's going to be voted on soon in the US, as well as in the other countries it's being signed by. The only votes related to the TPP that have occured so far are the TPA (which is to fast track the TPP, which passed a while ago) and a signing by the trade representatives in the US (which doesn't mean jack, it only means it was signed in formality). Hope that cleared up a bit.
No.331869
>>331248
that 'logic' is retarded and you should feel ashamed.
No.331874
>>331869
Are you saying you don't want to give your job to an oppressed minority?
It's 2016, anon.
No.331937
>>331194
>>331205
>>331219
Here is a link to the TPP document on a US government hosted website:
https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/trans-pacific-partnership/tpp-full-text
Since I was following it, the TPP I believe was first released on a New Zealand government website (below this paragraph). That is where I was first able to obtain it in its entirety:
https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/about-us/who-we-are/treaty-making-process/trans-pacific-partnership-tpp/text-of-the-trans-pacific-partnership
I've read over the Intellectual Property chapter and the guidelines for trade (and eventual laws) are not to good for people who torrent, don't have access to the money to dispute copyright claims (for or against) in court, and seem heavily geared towards eliminating copyright infringement for good (but through horribly implemented means).
One segment in Chapter 18 (Intellectual Property), increases the length of copyright by 70 years plus the life of the author. That is page 36 of chapter 18, Article 18.63: Terms of Protection for Copyright and Related Rights. This copyright length is too long and will cause problems for individuals that want to improve upon certain copyrighted material.
Another segment which I disagree with is the section of what will be considered reprehensible actions that will require payment to the copyright holder for damages plus criminal charges for copyright infringement. This portion is in Chapter 18, Article 77: Criminal Procedures and Penalties, page 51. The specific part of the passage that I'm pointing out is the following: "Each Party shall provide for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied at least in cases of willful trademark counterfeiting or copyright or related rights piracy on a commercial scale. In respects of willful copyright or related rights piracy, "on a commercial scale" includes at least:
(a) acts carried out for commercial advantage or financial gain; and
(b) significant acts, not carried out for commercial advantage or financial gain, that have a substantial prejudicial impact on the interests of the copyright or related rights holder in relation to the marketplace.
The problem I have is with section (b) of that article. The language is vague to what qualifies as a "significant act" and also, considering some people might violate copyright to improve upon something for fun or to improve people's lives on a large scale with no commercial gain, those people shouldn't be punished for improving an idea, especially in the case of medicine where lives can be saved.
These are just two of a few different problems I have with the TPP. With around 6k pages, yeah, it's a long document, but you shouldn't have to accept the good (as there are also some really good guidelines also in the TPP for trade and other practices) with the bad. Especially if the bad can fuck up people's lives by using broad language to solve a problem that probably won't be solved. Instead, I see a lot of poorer individuals going to jail over illegally torrenting something they couldn't buy in the first place, filling up crowded jails even more.
My suggestion for IF the TPP passes (and laws are put into place to enforce it in the US) is to buy a craptop and use public wifi (while having your face hidden) to download or upload anything that you might want that infringes on copyright. While they will force ISPs to disclose personal information regarding who downloaded and uploaded what, they will have a lot more trouble finding you if you use this method. Although, realistically, how could they catch everyone who does this?
If anyone has read any of the other chapters in detail that would like to share what they understood I'd love to hear it.
No.331949
>>330941
>Remember folks, Donald Trump is the only candidate who has warned us about this. If you want the TPP to be repealed and nullified, vote for Trump!
No.331965
Shill all you want. Your paycheck from shitting this place up won't help you when people get hungry and desperate from shit like the TPP.
No.331989
>>330981
I keep hearing people talk about how they're "afraid" of Bernie's tax rates. But is he really proposing to raise them that much? I mean, European nations have high tax rates and they seem to get by. Why couldn't the USA?
And I don't mean that in a condescending "I am right you are wrong" kind of way, I'm genuinely asking.
No.331997
>>331989
He wants to raise the tax rate for companies earning more then $335,000. Currently it's at 35%, that's what companies pay who earn $335,000 and it's what companies pay who earn $100,000,000,000,000.
The fear of course is that US companies will move to Europe where they would have to pay even higher taxes, (up to 75% in France).
No.331999
>>331997
and where they don't already own all the politicians.
It's a very real prospect :^)
No.332000
>>331997
why would they move to a continent with higher tax rates? or was that the point you were trying to make
No.332004
>>331989
People don't like the tax increases because they don't like givng our government more money. Our government has taken a strong stance against actually helping people in favor of behavior that can only be described as embezzlement.
No.332005
Probably not worth mentioning that TPP hasn't gone into effect yet.
So those job losses are unrelated. Since it hasn't taken effect yet.
Not worth mentioning in this hugbox
No.332013
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>332005
This. I'm an Indiana native, and I guarantee that most of those lost jobs were lost the same way the carrier jobs were lost. If you haven't seen it, watch below.
No.332022
>>332013
>Do work that any mexican can do
>Complain
Welcome to capitalism you communist bastards
No.332041
>>331949
did he really say this? when did he say this? jesus why!? ;_;
No.332085
>>332005
That is scary.
If those were the jobs lost by companies taking preemptive action,before the agreement has even come in to effect.
That means there are many more job losses to come.
No.332117
>>332022
>allowing a corporation to reap the benefits from your national population without ensuring they benefit your nation
globalist scum
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No.332315
>>331937
Realistically, would they go after everyone who's pirated something, or would they go after a handful of people to serve as an example?
No.332458
>>332315
This is why having a VPN & using Tor is important. There are other programs like Tribler that is working to onion-route P2P and bit-torrent traffic. Its still in beta stage.
No.332508
mfw Trump finally ascends to the golden throne and becomes emperor and… nothing changes. TPP moves ahead because that's what the money wants and all the Trumpets will join the Berniebots in a collective sudoku.
No.332518
>>332508
We have no other option.
Well, I take that back. I'm prepping for the worst anyway, regardless if (or not) Trump takes oval office.
No.332537
>>330967
>implying bernie wouldn't give us trade deficits intentionally with Africa to cuck us
>blacks still wouldn't vote for him
No.332552
>>332537
thank God I'm white and don't have to worry about being poor, ever.
I'm quitting my job today and taking it easy for the rest of my life, since I will never be poor. Thanks Bernie!
No.332559
>>330967
Bernie's also a faggot retard that did nothing with his life other than prep bulls.
No.332644
>>332537
>bernie is le cuck maymay
>he will base international trade policy on my his fetish
>don't pay attention to the actual topic of the thread
No.332661
>>332315
>>332458
Well, yes. That's the situation now, very few people actually ever get arrested for this. WIth the TPP and laws that enforce it, however, you'll have more arrests due to the ease of access the police have to information regarding who downloaded and uploaded what. As of right now, ISPs are not required to track your downloads and upload information for police use. Under the TPP (and related laws) they will. This is why I'd suggest the method I wrote in this post here >>331937 as well as using any software to hide your identity while the first few months of enforcement are playing out. Once people can draw conclusions whether or not it's enforceable then you should ease your methods. Otherwise, don't illegally torrent or break copyright till then. If you do, you're taking a chance you might regret.
No.332765
>>332661
Thanks anon. Any information at this point is good to know, due to TPP-related news being slow right now.
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No.335649
The American People Have Figured Out They’ve Been Screwed By 'Free Trade'
http://archive.is/XtAsC
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/pat-caddell-the-american-people-have-figured-out-theyve-been-screwed-by-free-trade/
Whenever there are 'free trade agreements' more American jobs always ALWAYS outsourced to third world slave labor countries - every single fucking time.
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No.338149
>>335649
Without doubt anon, this is true.
No.338445
>>331017
I think we can all agree on this.
No.338447
No.338448
>>338445
Except for the Hillary shills trying to play both groups against each other.
No.338451
>>338448
Meh, who cares about her? She'll never be able to go toe-to-toe with The Don on this or any other debate topic.
No.338459
>>338451
Hillary's Health isn't too good either now that I think about it.
No.338460
>>338448
I'll be honest with the Sanders supporters. Even if Sanders is the Nominee, I personally think Hillary will have him killed.
No.338464
>>338459
She may need to get some rest. She's been looking a little bit tired anon.
No.338480
>>338451
Of course not. Her debate plans against Trump are the same as her debate plans against Sanders - call him a sexist repeatedly, and steal all his ideas that resonate with voters.
>>338460
Well duh. She's got the same plans for Trump, and probably had the same plans for Obama if he hadn't agreed to make his administration Clinton terms 3 and 4.
No.338661
>>338480
>Of course not. Her debate plans against Trump are the same as her debate plans against Sanders - call him a sexist repeatedly, and steal all his ideas that resonate with voters.
Seems likely anon. Probably won't be much substance from her I'm guessing.
No.338879
Is Ohio having primaries today. The Kaisch guy is still in the race isn't he?
No.338884
>>338879
Tuesday. He's still in the race just to siphon votes from Trump. He's been getting his ass kicked the whole race and he won't even be on the ballot in Pennsylvania because he's a retard who doesn't do his paperwork on time.
No.338893
>>338884
Lolwut? His campaign didn't file paperwork on time?
How even?
No.338896
>>331294
>death grips
>cuck sanders
>pseudo intellectual
I can literally imagine your pink asshole expanding at the though of justifying your own bias.
You are the embodiment of the liberal white pussy from the suburbs meme.
No.338984
The TPP is evil plain and simple, and so are the rest of these agreements that put the US at a trading disadvantage with other countries.
I sincerely hope Donald Trump as President can turn this around and bring these jobs back to states and to Ohio.
No.339119
>>338884
Surely that was intentional oversight about Pennsylvania then if he's only meant to be a vote 'blackhole'?
No.339126
>>331533
Notice how all the lefties disappear after this
No.339192
No.339584
>>338893
They know he can't win and that Pennsylvania is a low-priority state because 80% of their delegates are unbound, so they didn't bother registering on time.
He's only in the race to try to take Ohio at this point.
>>339153
As a businessman, he does what is best for his business.
As President, he will do what is best for his country.
No.339590
>>339584
>because 80% of their delegates are unbound
I think I understand that to mean the Penn. electorates aren't pledged to follow the popular vote there, is that correct anon?
No.339625
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No.339650
>>330967
He wants to use executive action to legalize all illegal americans here.
Stop shilling sandernista
No.345605
TPP a shit. Needs to be run out of town on a rail.
No.345693
It's kind of hard to understand why Ohio voted the way they did in the primary tbh.
No.345697
>>345693
Because we had Strickland before Kasich, and Strickland was a complete disaster of a governor. Kasich showed up and was a generally good governor, but coming in right after Strickland made him look like the Da Vinci of governing a state. As a result, most of the state voted for him.
No.345736
>>345697
Oh I see. I guess that kinda makes sense then.
Will Ohio go to Trump this November I wonder?
No.345947
>>345736
Ohio voting machines owned by Soros firm.
Likely votes will be electronically rigged. However, if there is an unprecedented turnout for Trump those machines won't be able to be rigged everywhere but he needs at least a 25+% lead in Ohio votes to prevent mass voter fraud. If it's only 5 or 10% the machines can rig enough votes easily without anyone noticing. The ones who notice are the volunteers who decide to manually count ballots rather than rely on the scanners for statistics.
No.345950
>>345947
>Ohio voting machines
Sorry, Ohio already voted and it was rigged for Kasich. I was referring to Utah, which will likely also be rigged tomorrow.
No.345951
>>345736
I see. I think there's another thread going atm about Soros in Utah. Similar to that then I suppose.
No.345955
>>345951
Yep, the same thing seen in Ohio is likely to happen in Utah unless Trump gets an unprecedented amount of voters turning up who can overcome any of the rigged systems in place.
No.345961
>>345955
>checked
With all the means we have for verification, authentication & security available to use today, it seems pretty outrageous to me that voter fraud is even a thing in this country. The Founding Fathers must be very irate over this crap.
No.346067
>>332041
>jesus why!?
why? because he knows he can't win without the jews
No.346077
>>339584
>As a businessman, he does what is best for his business.
>As President, he will do what is best for his business.
ftfy
No.346078
>>332041
Because it's vital to this nation to protect the Israelis. The nation and real ones like Bebe. Not every Jew is Soros anon.
No.347240
>>345947
> If it's only 5 or 10% the machines can rig enough votes easily without anyone noticing.
How would that work anon? Wouln't that be large enough to raise some eyebrows?
But yea, the people who count the ballots manually (also, how does that work w/ electronic machines) are a good idea too.
No.347286
>>330967
This would be a very good thing, but Shillary is going to deny him the opportunity anon. Trump is the only viable alternative to ridding ourselves of this bullshit trade deal.
No.347321
>>346077
>>As a businessman, he does what is best for his business.
>>As President, he will do what is best for his country.
FTFY anon.
It's rather easy to see how these two conflate.
No.347440
>>331258
I've seen a New Zealand govt site that published it, is it available somewhere in the States too?
No.347529
>>330941
>is more concerned with jobs
who the fuck cares – the way TPP bolsters IP retardedness is bad enough already…
>>331010
and unicorns exist</s>
>>331169
>bending over for corporations
you do know the TPP is literally more of that, and is basically a megacorp's wet dream.
>>331205
>EFF agenda-driven wingnuts
say, nice pot you've got there.
>You're not a racist Trump supporter are you?
association fallacy
>>331223
>Only racists support Trump and are against the TPP. I'm not criticizing you, just stating a fact.
again, argument from association. I'm left wing and I hate the TPP. then again, I'm also anti-electorialist
>>331248
>If you support literally any other candidate you should be for the TPP.
I'm a fucking anti-electorialist, and regardless, supporting a candidate doesn't mean you like all their policies, just most of them.
what now?
>>331375
>retarded argument
>>331423
>Note that gutting nuanced language was explained in 1984
also note that the strong Sapir-Wharf hypothesis is bullshit.
>>332004
because of an aversion to passing welfare programs, due to an aversion to higher tax rates, et fucking cetera.
>>332117
you mean capitalist scum. ;)
>>332458
or I2p torrents.
>>332661
sidenote: fuck all copyright and patents.
>>339003
>>339119
>>339242
>>339288
>>339399
>>339420
>>339453
>>339475
>>339547
>>339611
>>339636
much trumpfag spam.
>>339584
>As President, he will do what is best for his country.
I doubt that.
>>339650
like that's a bad thing.
>>346077
exactly.
No.347551
>>347529
that's a remarkable textwall you've got there bro.
anyways, thanks for the input. libtards were really working overtime to FUD this story leading up to the Ohio primary hehe.
No.347613
How many more jobs will we have to lose in other states before we get rid of trade agreements that seem explicitly intended to screw Americans over?
No.347628
>>330967
>Bernie wants what Trump wants and then some
You Bern victims are pathetic.