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File: 1457631747469.jpg (60.13 KB, 600x468, 50:39, obamacared.jpg)

 No.334557

Yet another brazen example of how the US government does not intend to leave innocent people alone …

The United States Preventive Services Task Force (USPTF) recently updated its recommendations on the screening of children and adolescents for major depressive disorder (MDD), in an article in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine. The task force now recommends that all children aged 12 and up be screened for MDD as part of their regular doctor visits.

"The USPSTF recommends screening for major depressive disorder (MDD) in adolescents aged 12 to 18 years," the task force said. "Screening should be implemented with adequate systems in place to ensure accurate diagnosis, effective treatment, and appropriate follow-up."

The recommendation is not binding, nor does it constitute official government policy. However, it may show the shape of things to come. Should this recommendation be widely adopted, it will almost certainly lead to a surge in antidepressant use among children. … …

The USPTF has also previously recommended screening ALL ADULTS too: ((archive.is/6Y9J7 // archive.is/Pmgha // archive.is/JftMk // archive.is/36bxP // archive.is/B1MeQ // archive.is/EQfZ4 // archive.is/Y3ZdU))

However well intentioned, it is likely that increased screening of adolescents for MDD will lead to more children being treated with dangerous drugs. That's because although antidepressant drugs have been proven to be no more effective than a placebo – and both riskier and less effective than treatments such as talk therapy – they remain the treatment of choice for depression in the United States.

According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 11 percent of U.S. residents aged 12 and up already take antidepressants. Notably, only an estimated 7.6 percent of the population actually suffers from depression.

The USPTF recommendation also raises the specter of widespread screening for other mental health conditions, many of which have come under fire for being vague or even invented by the 'mental health profession' in order to confiscate firearms from adults.

This is slippery slope to a more hardcore invasion of privacy, forced intervention of completely innocent civilians, and yes, even gun confiscation: http://archive.is/2yCtt

No constitutional form of government would ever condone something like this.

http://archive.is/uHFOV

http://www.naturalnews.com/053258_mental_health_screening_antidepressants_adolescents.html

 No.334570

They're coming for you /killcen/.

They know where you live and know where you sleep. At anytime you'll hear a knock at the door. That will be the NSA AND the FED coming for you to silence you.

You've been warned.


 No.334572

The issue is not about the quality of healthcare, or the access for everyone. The issue at hand is getting everyone into the system, and collecting data enough to “label” individuals with rather – ahem, disarming – disorders that can and will cancel your right to own a gun, and may even force you into drug treatment and mandatory “therapy.”

More and more, the terms that are used will define a person’s access to constitutional rights – police calls will include information about mental health states, particularly if there is a history of violence or mental disorders. PTSD will be used to take guns from the very veterans who fought for our freedoms, at the very time when they need help not demotion in society. Telling your doctor how you really feel is a sure path to possibly being categorized and disenfranchised.

Is this what the founding fathers had in mind when they stood up for the rights of the people to defend against tyranny? Absolutely not… but it is exactly what we stand to get under Obamacare.

http://archive.is/6Y9J7

Since 2002, the government has been intent on testing millions for mental illness. This obsession even extends to our veterans as they return from combat and leave the service. The veterans are increasingly being diagnosed as having PTSD and they are subsequently being adjudicated to not being eligible to own a firearm.

These practices are reminiscent of how the Soviets used to imprison political enemies. The Soviets simply said if anyone disagree with the government, they must have “political schizophrenia” and required to have treatment in a mental healthcare facility.

Therapists are drawing upon a very new frontier in order to force people into treatment as psychiatrists invent new “illnesses” such as “Oppositional Defiant Disorder.” The ultimate goal is the mass medicating of the American people. And with a judgment of mental illness, this is Obama’s latest strategy of gun confiscation.

http://archive.is/Pmgha

Your ObamaCare plan will be forced to pay for it, whether you want it or not, thanks to the federal government’s commandeering of the health-insurance industry under the so-called Affordable Care Act. And eventually, younger and younger children will be in Big Brother’s crosshairs for mental and behavioral health “services,” whether parents want it or not.

The latest demands come from the United States Preventive Services Task Force, or USPSTF. In gestapo outfit, appointed by the Obama regime's increasingly radical Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), recommends various unconstitutional federal 'health' policies for fascist dictatorships to decree into pseudo-law via regulation.

http://archive.is/JftMk

Mandatory depression screening will not just raise insurance costs. In order to ensure that the screening mandate is being properly implemented, the government will need to create a database containing the results of the screenings. Those anti-gun politicians who want to forbid anyone labeled “mentally ill” from owning a firearm will no doubt want to use this database as a tool to deprive individuals of their Second Amendment rights.

Mandatory depression screening will endanger people’s health by increasing the use of psychotropic drugs. These drugs often have dangerous side effects. Their use has even been linked to suicide. The fact that almost every mass shooter was on psychotropic drugs is another good reason to oppose any policy that will increase reliance on these medicines.

http://archive.is/36bxP

Make no mistake about it, the Government panel’s recommendation, if it finds its way somehow through Congress, is an underhanded way for the Government to implement gun control. In addition, there’s no doubt that one of the big drug or hospital corporations has devised some sort of “depression screening” protocol which generates very high margin profits.

https://archive.is/B1MeQ

Once freedom-minded Americans learn about this, how many do you think will trust their doctors not to "out" them to federal law enforcement? How many legitimately mentally ill people who own guns will go seek treatment?

https://archive.is/EQfZ4

The White House released a fact-sheet Jan. 4 which previews the executive gun control Obama will unveil Tuesday and one aspect of the new controls is the inclusion of “information from the Social Security Administration in the background check system about beneficiaries who are prohibited from possessing a firearm.”

On July 18 Breitbart News reported on Obama’s push to ban gun-possession for Social Security beneficiaries who are believed incapable of handling their own finances.

https://archive.is/Y3ZdU

An aggressive anti-gun campaign that already has named veterans and recipients of Social Security benefits as targets apparently is being expanded to include foster parents.

And it’s already drawn a lawsuit.

https://archive.is/JSLRN


 No.334573

>>334570

My doors are already katy bar'd (with kick-proof strike plates as double re-enforcement for both dead-bolt locks and studs) and I have guns in every room, loaded and ready at all times.

I sleep well enough.


 No.334582

>>334570

> At anytime you'll hear a knock at the door.

LOL, as if they ever knock.

>>334557

They always try to come at us first through our children.

Daily reminder that ALL firearms in a household will be seized; it only takes one family member to receive a diagnosis.


 No.334592

>>334582

I won't be putting up with this bullshit. I'm very glad I don't have kids around my house.

>>334573

The 'door devil' works pretty well and has been test proven to resist battering rams. They'd have to take an axe to the door to get through.


 No.334594

File: 1457634485441.gif (125.75 KB, 720x480, 3:2, 1456973770923.gif)

>naturalnews

fuck off shillcen


 No.334595

>>334573

thanks for the intel

;)


 No.334610

>>334595

You'd be surprised. A lot of preppers have hardcore door security like this, and its easily available from a multitude of security oriented websites. If you were to use this as intel to track down one person, you'd have to sift through around a million people with the same kind of door frame re-enforcement gear.


 No.334611

>>334592

>I won't be putting up with this bullshit. I'm very glad I don't have kids around my house.

People like you will be critical in the upcoming resistance.

It will fall to your kind to secretly hold firearms for those being subjected to this scam.


 No.334616

itt: shrillcen masturbating


 No.334627

>>334616

I just got a boner.

Seriously though, door frame reinforcement is easy to do, and a lot of preppers DIY their striker plates from galvanized steel. It does not take a genius to do it either, all you need is the right tools, measurements and drill bits. Use long screws too, the longer they are the more fortified they are.


 No.334642

Beyond Locks Security Strike Plate Installation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQQQXSVTFU


 No.334661

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Reminder that a reinforced door is only as effective as its lock.

Choose wisely, anons.


 No.334667

>>334573

Dear FBI:

We are all doing this. We are all armed with baby killing assault moist nugget obrezes. Break into the house? Prepare for a cone of extreme muzzle flash that makes a normal rifle flash look like a camera flash. Dont fuck with us.


 No.334668

>>334661

Very true. I was waiting for someone to post something about this. Most door locks can be picked very easy, but their are drill-resistant / lockpick-resistant deadbolts out there. Once company that sells them is Medeco: http://www.medeco.com

You can likely find Youtube videos for DIY deadbolt fortification too. Just needs the right nigger rigging.


 No.334671

>>334667

Lots of people do this stuff, not just doomsday preppers getting ready for SHTF or death squad raids from Jade Helm drills.

Normal people buy this stuff all the time because of the increase in burglarizes / break-ins. Its rational to have good door security, although I admit I get a bit paranoid about it and go a bit overboard. You never know these days, the country is in real shitty shape and things are going to get a lot worse I expect.


 No.334672

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>334668

bosnianbill posted a Youtube about an Alien (ayy) brand lock that looks like it would be resistant to forcing and bumping, judging by the thumbnail on the video.

I need to go watch that now.


 No.334674

>>334661

>>334671

Besides, if you have a katy bar (whether bough or homemade) chances are they can't get through your door very easy even if they can drill through the locks.


 No.334675

>awefull

>surf

Ugh. And we already know they're starting to use depression as an excuse to steal guns. They'll start using experience levels with firearms next, or maybe how many times you've had waffles instead of pancakes this week. Who knows, as long as they get those guns.


 No.334676

oh shit I just jizzed my pants


 No.334683

>>334675

In order for the communists to fulfill their agenda they have planed for America, the American people must be disarmed. They want to bring us back to feudalism, to destroy our national sovereignty and to financially subjugate us through the burden of unpayable debts.

Don't ever give up your firearms. Best thing to do is prepare for the worst, and be ready to resist if they happen to target you. In order to target you, they need to have bureaucracies in place like Obamacare that criminalize more and more innocent people.


 No.334693

File: 1457640176733.jpg (34.13 KB, 425x319, 425:319, Lewis Skolnick.jpg)

>>334557

In other news: LOL, why is Louis Skolnick in OP pic?

Sage for off topic.


 No.334706

>>334693

Cause only nerds would support Obamacare. Its revenge against all those "racist mean 'ol gun owners."


 No.334712

>they're actually dumb enough to think people are going to put up with this shit


 No.334735

File: 1457641965114.gif (4.89 MB, 700x394, 350:197, I'm watching you.gif)

>>334706

What are you smoking? Nerds are exactly the kind of people who are smart enough to know this is horrible for everyone but the government. I am nerd and not only do I not support Obama but I want that Muslim terrorist in the White house shipped off to Guantanamo. Nerds love guns because they keep them safe from all the nogs and spics who want to rob them since they look like an easy target.


 No.334736

>you little surf


 No.334746

File: 1457642248831.jpg (38.08 KB, 634x424, 317:212, 1456554692765.jpg)

looks like I wandered into a Dale Gribble Strawman convention. Bonus points for misspelling everything.


 No.334756

>>334746

You have to go back


 No.334777

>>334746

>implying it's just this thread

Come on, you just described 90% of political discussion on the internet.


 No.334780

>>334777

Trips of Truth!


 No.334786

File: 1457644663856.png (152.3 KB, 316x267, 316:267, 2ee.png)

>>334756

MEME MEME MEME EL-OH-EL


 No.334787

>>334661

Forgot about US retards using easily pickable locks, you faggots should get Abloy locks.


 No.334803

>>334786

>this autist

Do you spam these images so people can immediately stop listening to you?

Or is it because you really think everyone who disagrees with you is a brainless idiot that just follows the side who memes harder?


 No.334917

File: 1457653066094.png (251.07 KB, 447x318, 149:106, 2ae.png)

>>334803

>I am the Lorax I speak for this board

>they disagree with you and disagree with me

>they say ur ghey autist

Do you spam these lame put-downs so people can immediately stop listening to you?

Or is it because you really think everyone who disagrees with you is a brainless idiot that just follows the side who memes harder?


 No.334951

Natural News

Goes in the trash.

Let me post kike.


 No.334953

>>334917

TRUMP 2016


 No.334969

File: 1457656592252.png (186.86 KB, 547x519, 547:519, a2160afa008e7fe1cb8b8445b3….png)


 No.334976

America is really falling into an oppressive shit hole ain't it?

"Change you can believe in" was Obama's logo? How about rephrasing that to "Change you must comply to."


 No.334979

It's really sad that the only way to get the government to start taking mental health seriously is when it's a scheme to undermine the 2nd Amendment.


 No.334981

>>334969

>>334917

Is there an official name you want or should we just call you "autist"?

We won't call you "Hotpockets" because that would be confusing.


 No.334985

>>334976

We voted for change - and we got Clinton's 3rd and 4th terms instead.


 No.334989

>>334985

>and we got Clinton's 3rd and 4th terms instead

Heh, cheer up anon. That cunt will never see the White House.


 No.334995

File: 1457658530056.png (39.09 KB, 840x217, 120:31, the_main_difference_betwee….png)

>>334989

Trump is going to win both the GOP nom and the general election. So let Clinton do her ugliest–she'll never win against Trump.


 No.335021

>>334989

I hope so. I'd even vote for Trump before Clinton part 5.


 No.335031

>>334610

>a million

You really don't know how irrelevant the prepped community is, do you


 No.335036

>>334995

I'm afraid he'll be assassinated inevitably if the elites can't stop him.

>>335031

Actually, I'm thrilled that the prepper community is growing as is becoming semi-popular today. Yes it is important. After SHTF and all is done, doomsday preppers will likely be the survivors who can re-start civilization in America again. Fortunately most of them are constitutionalists and patriots ;)


 No.335050

File: 1457665465698.jpg (101.1 KB, 638x617, 638:617, the_lorax___let___em_grow_….jpg)

>>334981

>we

there she goes again


 No.335659

>>334951

Your constant spam and shitposting is what belongs in the trash. You rather read yellow journalism about crabs and indian shit than read about whats actually going on in our country, stuff that effects millions of Americans. That is why you remain so juvenile and blissfully ignorant. I would be shocked if you were over the age of a teenager. If you are, shame on you for wasting your life away.

Years before I became a regular poster here I had a job, I worked hard, I was involved in prepping and teaching others how to be prepared. Now I'm a news hound creating libraries of information.

Let me ask you something, what have you done recently other than shit post and try to demonize other anons on the web?


 No.335668

So will politicians be forced to take this as well?


 No.335703

OP is retarded trash. The point of this screening is to detect people with mental illnesses (depression) and treat them so it doesn't affect their whole lives. The earlier you treat it the better chance they have of getting an education and improving their life. Instead of ending up homeless alone or suicidal.


 No.335713

>>335703

That's true. But the current administration will abuse it to strip people of their 2nd Amendment rights.


 No.335714

>>335703

No, you are retarded.

If a person is depressed they can still get treated - and that should be completely 100% VOLUNTARY.

This *mandate* is just another excuse to label and tag people with disorders (whether accurate or not) against their will so they can justify disarming people (and to push more SSRI profits). Its well documented agenda to push for gun control because they can't get Congress to pass gun control any other way.


 No.335717

>>335703

What does any of that have to do with making screening MANDATORY instead of just improving healthcare?

You lie like a liberal.

Besides, as if everyone wants to wring their brain through the crucible of trial-and-error psychoactive drugs at a chance of it improving their life instead of making them suicidal.


 No.335719

>>335717

>You lie like a liberal.

Likely he is. Unfortunately today's liberals have a terrible fear against individual freedom and personal choice. Today's liberal worships jackbooted thuggery against those who don't conform to their fucked up policies. Its sad, it really is sad.


 No.335721

It's time to repeal Obamacare. Vote for Trump, he's got some great ideas to fix this whole disaster:

https://archive.is/XXC5m

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform

Trump's plan is pure Americana and yes it will be completely voluntary. You won't have this bureaucracy shoved down your throat. You will have alternative options, many options. It will open up a free market and drive the prices down too (because again, the consumer will have all the choice).


 No.335723


 No.335725

>>335714

>>335717

Where in OP - besides the clickbait title - does it say it'll be mandatory?

The article says it recommends kids be screened, not that they must be screened, like it or not.


 No.335729

>>335725

You're right, I didn't read it.

This is a push for more minors to get dragged through neurologist hell by their hapless naive parents.

This is a million times worse than I thought.


 No.335734

>>335729

Yes, it is a disaster. We need to abolish Obamacare. It goes against the principle of civil liberty, our 4th Amendment (just like the NSA domestic spying), our 2nd Amendment and can be used by law enforcement to intervene in people's lives without needing a warrant to do so. Its the very definition of a literal police state.

I would hope that most liberal people would agree with me too. Its unjustified and its just not fair. If they start enacting this against the will of people there needs to be class-action lawsuits filed over it.

This is just one reason, out of many other reasons, that I am voting for Trump. I'm simply voting to show them my anger and grief.


 No.335738

Daily reminder that the government is going to be completely overthrown and every single soulless fuck is going to be held accountable for every single one of their actions. Nothing can wipe the smile off my face when I think about the hell that awaits these people who tried to ruin the world.


 No.335754

>>335729

>voluntary is worse than mandatory

How do you figure?


 No.335783

>>334746

That's Rusty to you, bitch.


 No.335799

>>335754

"Voluntary", it's going to be by the parents decision.

And I've been through it, nuerologists will push parents HARD to make their kids hit the pills. They argue even against protests and grievances from the children, and always take these complaints and turn it into a reason to increase the dosage, and then wait and see for 2 months, and then try going back down again, and just generally waste more time and do whatever they can to keep the parents buying pills.

It's a shame it already happens, but now they want to push for more.


 No.335803

>>335729

you know whats crazy?

your kid is fucked and commits crime there are two ways to go about it.

send them to the pylsychiatrist that dopes them up and meets with them once a week to "fix" them. they get tracked for the rest of their life.

send them to an asshole cop that kicks the shit out of them and locks them up for a few months to a year. they did their time, they choose where to go from there with a clean record.

guesz which gets better results?


 No.335811

>>335738

Oh I would jizz my pants if I ever saw the day.

I would literally sacrifice my own life just to see that happen (if I had to in order to see it happen). I kind of doubt the establishment would go down without a fight though. They'd rather slaughter all of America then let that happen.


 No.335821

>>335803

What does this have to do with the minor committing a felony?

This doesn't only happen to delinquents.


 No.335839

>>335803

I misread your post with that reply >>335821


 No.336138

>>335803

>go to psychologist

>marked for life

>go to jail

>come out squeaky clean

OK


 No.342995

anti-slide


 No.343102

File: 1458342485602.png (65.05 KB, 791x530, 791:530, 1456066412076.png)

go away shillcen


 No.343224

File: 1458347182204.jpg (13.72 KB, 320x239, 320:239, 1457137538858.jpg)

>>335734

>Yes, it is a disaster. We need to abolish Obamacare. It goes against the principle of civil liberty, our 4th Amendment (just like the NSA domestic spying), our 2nd Amendment and can be used by law enforcement to intervene in people's lives without needing a warrant to do so. Its the very definition of a literal police state.

right wing terrorist detected


 No.343237

>>342995

fuck off, this is a slide thread you faggot




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