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Obama: Government Needs to Crack Encryption for Tax Enforcement Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:26:43 No.336547

>inb4 commies blaming Trump "it's all Trump's fault!"

Speaking on Friday at the South by Southwest festival in Austin, Texas, President Obama called for government access to encrypted devices.

He said government has a legitimate need to circumvent the privacy of Americans in order to collect taxes.

“What mechanisms do we have available to even do simple things like tax enforcement because if in fact you can’t crack that at all, government can’t get in, then everybody is walking around with a Swiss bank account in their pocket,” he said.

Obama also said encryption encourages terrorists and child pornographers.

“The question we now have to ask is: If technologically it is possible to make an impenetrable device or system where the encryption is so strong that there is no key, there’s no door at all, then how do we apprehend the child pornographer, how do we solve or disrupt a terrorist plot?”

The president went on to describe smart phones as “black boxes” and said there should not be an “absolutist view” on privacy.

“If your argument is strong encryption no matter what, and we can and should create black boxes, that I think does not strike the kind of balance we have lived with for 200, 300 years, and it’s fetishizing our phones above every other value,” he said.

Obama also said smart phone technology is “very disruptive and unsettling” and allows “folks who are very dangerous to spread dangerous messages.”

On Thursday Attorney General Loretta Lynch appeared on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” to make the government’s case on encryption.

“We are not asking for a backdoor, nor are we asking [Apple CEO Tim Cook] to turn anything on to spy on anyone,” Lynch said.

She said government is “asking them to do what their customer wants.”

A poll conducted in late February by Reuters shows most Americans support Apple’s fight to protect the privacy of smart phones. Forty-six percent of respondents said they agreed with the tech company’s position, 35 percent said they disagreed and 20 percent said they did not know.

http://archive.is/8JBl7

http://www.infowars.com/obama-at-sxsw-government-needs-to-crack-encryption-for-tax-enforcement/

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:30:15 No.336556

crabs trying to slide!

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:41:24 No.336568

Its funny how liberals demand privacy and the very people they support don't want privacy at all. Then they blame their political opponents.

Its like watching a dystopian futuristic Psy-Fi film.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:44:44 No.336570

Technology begins to seem like anathema to tyranny. The state may be able to stay afloat in the technological arms race in some capacity for a while yet, but the cost of control increases every day.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:50:38 No.336576

FBI Will Force Apple to Remotely Turn on iPhone Cameras & Microphones Next

That is, if they aren’t already doing that right now…

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/fbi-will-force-apple-to-remotely-turn-on-iphone-cameras-microphones-next_032016

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:51:28 No.336577

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tinfoil security tips!

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:52:09 No.336578

fuck him too then

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:54:28 No.336583

>>336547

I BET THE JEWS DID THIS

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 19:50:48 No.336620

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DISREGARD OP

INFOWARS A SHIT

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:12:47 No.336647

>>336568

It's more a matter of the people want privacy, but the out of control feds want to strip it away. It would be the exact same story with a republican president.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:26:42 No.336664

>>336576

They are.

t. Ex-Private Investigator

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:31:28 No.336669

>infowars

nope thank you

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:33:10 No.336672

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>>336583

DA JOOOOOOOOZ

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:37:23 No.336677

>>336620

>>336669

Nice try.

Here's the actual interview with Obama, right from his own mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjvX5zq7BXg

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:37:47 No.336678

>>336669

Too bad, its news, and its making headlines everywhere. Your poverty pimp is being exposed once again douche bag.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:39:36 No.336679

>>336547

>if you arent doing anything wrong you dont have to worry

>everyone is always a suspect of tax evasion

taxes can be used as an excuse to investigate anyone. im surprised he was stupid enough to admit that. the guy could have just talked about how its necessary to protect kids (and not mentioned how he is trying to import a culture into our country that normalizes pedophilia).

the entire argument goes to shit when its found they refuse to investigate deobandi muslims that have government jobs. at that point we are better off without any of their security measures.

sage sage 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:48:46 No.336684

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>>336678

>le poverty pimp buzzword

don't you have faraday cages to make?

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:49:25 No.336685

>>336547

taxes can be used to justify an investigation of anyone at anytime. tax laws are confusing for a reason.

all these security measures are completely negated by the immigration push. they wouldnt even check up on the san bernadino terrorists facebook posts when she wasnt an american citizen, but they want to crack our phones for the irs.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 20:50:08 No.336686

>>336547

>fetishizing our phones

new mem when?

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 21:31:40 No.336710

>>336547

Sure, Obama.

But first, can you tell us if P = NP? That would help a lot.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 21:36:14 No.336711

I suppose one of the more subtle aspects of this is that phones use proprietary software and aren't trustworthy at all.

Any 'encryption' a company can be coerced into giving unrestricted access to the unencrypted data isn't secure and reasonable encryption.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 21:38:20 No.336712

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You can stop terrorism by being a good and sincere government.

And keeping the muslims out.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 23:36:45 No.336770

>>336712

Agreed.

The feds are pretending to have a short memory. The whole reason Apple started to encrypt their phones was in response to Snowden's papers which showed the same feds were unconstitutionally and illegally eavesdropping on American's conversations. If instead they showed the feds obtained specific warrants to wiretap the handful of people they had probable cause to believe were terrorists, the public wouldn't be demanding encryption now. The feds made their own bed on this, now they can lie in it.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 23:39:59 No.336775

Never again you government fucks.

Anonymous 03/18/16 (Fri) 20:02:00 No.342997

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>>336712

THIS.

On the contrary though, the government likes terrorism. It gives them an excuse to expand their bullshit everywhere and bully anyone they like. They would love any justification that allows it. Even if it does mean the death of innocent victims.

Anonymous 03/18/16 (Fri) 20:59:37 No.343023

It really didn't take them long at all to drop the pretense that they wanted a back door to fight "terrorism".

Once the government gets this, it will be used against all of us, without limits.

Anonymous 03/18/16 (Fri) 21:35:55 No.343034

>>336570

The opposite is the case. Never had a government this amount of control and surveillance in their hands enabled by means of technology.

Ted Kaczinski was right about everything.

Anonymous 03/18/16 (Fri) 21:42:34 No.343037

Terrorism is just an excuse.

Obama is admitting the real reason right here, which is economic control. Encryption makes it harder for the government to keep tabs on every company, foreign or domestic. Having backdoors that ONLY the US Gov has access to gives the US nearly unlimited freedom to spy on any corporation anywhere in the world. The NSA doesn't care about your kiddy porn or drugs, the NSA doesn't care about sandnigger terrorism. The majority of what the NSA does is spying on other states and corporations. Economic blackmail is the name of the game.

Anonymous 03/18/16 (Fri) 21:55:23 No.343044

>>343034

But only by fiat. And forgetting that every tech they used can be used by their enemies, too.

Anonymous 03/18/16 (Fri) 21:57:47 No.343046

What does Trump think about this? I feel like all of these candidates would shit on our privacy

Anonymous 03/18/16 (Fri) 21:59:21 No.343048

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>>336547

How can they blame taxes on Trump?

Anonymous 03/18/16 (Fri) 22:35:47 No.343072

>>336568

Pedo detected

Anonymous 03/18/16 (Fri) 22:36:29 No.343073

>>343037

Another pedo detected

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 00:41:11 No.343239

You Trump supporters actually think he would be any different than Obama on this issue?

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 00:44:57 No.343241

>>343239

>You Trump supporters actually think he would be any different than Obama on this issue?

Rabbi pls go

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 00:53:20 No.343247

>>343241

I doubt Trump gives a shit about your privacy over fighting terror.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 00:59:16 No.343255

>>343247

>I doubt Trump gives a shit about your privacy over fighting terror.

Who cares? Even your ultra liberal socialist icon Hillary Clinton knows only pedos and terrorrists think privacy is a "right." Which are you?

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 01:03:40 No.343264

>>342997

Book?

If it's Fascist/commie mumbo jumbo then I'm not interested

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 01:10:55 No.343273

>>343255

Either Trump will bankrupt the country by lowering taxes so much that we'll be fucked no matter what, or we'll get a cuck who will spend for "free" stuff, or we'll get some flip flopping bitch who will sell our country out via the TPP and lead us to an Orwellian state in which we are all tracked and end up getting owned if we disagree with mainstream.

They all suck.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 01:12:43 No.343276

>>343273

Trump will also need to tackle trimming the fat probably left for his second term as well.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 01:21:17 No.343286

>>343044

Digital money is even more tracable by basic logic.

>>343046

Correct. Trump is absolutely shit on privacy, surveillance and liberty as are Clinton and Sanders. Paul was pretty much the only privacy aware candidate.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 01:25:20 No.343287

>>343273

I think Trump is a lunatic, but heis also deemed incredibly dangerous by:

1) Wall street bankers

2) Democrat establishment

3) Republican establishment

4) Multinational corporations

5) Lobbyists

6) Big pharma

7) Hollywood

8) Foreign Interests

the list goes on…

Everyone president (and nominee) in my oldfag life has worked for every entity that list to the detriment of actual citizens and the country. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend, but at least Trump isn't the friend of my enemy! Unlike Hillary, or all the other Republican candidates.

One of two things will happen. Either Trump will destroy a corrupt system deliberately because he is a genius, or he will destroy a corrupt system unintentionally because he is nuts. Both of these are far superior outcomes to Rubillary.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 01:29:53 No.343292

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>>343276

If Cruz would stand up for the 4th amendment, I could maybe stomach his religious bullshit.

But we already have a gigantic deficit, and Trump's plan would increase it by a trillion a year (on top over the over half trillion we have now). Well, that's if you are to trust the conservative think tank that is the Tax Foundation. They could just as well hate Trump so much that they would nudge the numbers in Cruz's favor.

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/Comparison%20-%20Vertical.pdf

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 01:30:34 No.343294

>“If your argument is strong encryption no matter what, and we can and should create black boxes, that I think does not strike the kind of balance we have lived with for 200, 300 years, and it’s fetishizing our phones above every other value,”

He's totally right.

He's human refuse and deserves nothing, but he's right. If our government actually existed for the people, I would fully support this argument.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 01:31:10 No.343295

>>343286

>Digital money is even more tracable by basic logic.

That's why cash and gold are important.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 01:32:49 No.343298

>>343292

>If Cruz would stand up for the 4th amendment, I could maybe stomach his religious bullshit.

Yep but he doesnt, so into the trash he goes.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 04:10:51 No.343413

>>343294

> he's totally right

this is bald-faced tyranny and completely antithetical to the US. 100% altruistic government is fantasy, that is why all our constitutional protections are (were) for the people. before the supreme court became political and "open for interpretation" those laws were absolute.

"nothing to fear nothing to hide" is dictatorship 101, if there's no place to hide there's no place to dissent.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 04:32:12 No.343425

>>343292

>Sandkike

>Revenue increase of $10 trillion

rofl

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 04:33:51 No.343426

>>343294

Encryption can not exist, nor function with "black boxes".

It's either for one ciphertext, one key, or nothing at all.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 04:36:33 No.343427

>>343292

>working economic models

I love a good joke.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 05:32:23 No.343473

>>343413

>this is bald-faced tyranny and completely antithetical to the US.

Right to privacy has never protect you when served with a warrant, nor has it exceeded your death.

He is absolutely correct that this is a change in police capabilities due to technology.

>>343426

I don't think you understand the argument. It isn't a technical one.

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 06:55:44 No.343564

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>>336547

>infowars

Regardless:

>need to circumvent the privacy of Americans in order to collect taxes

What about companies that use loopholes and tax havens?

>encryption encourages terrorists and child pornographers

Just because the worst minority uses it for their shit doesn't mean you should take it away from everyone else. Lot's of bad shit happens from behind the locked door of a criminal's house. Should we take away everyone's locks and have everyone live in glass houses?

>president went on to describe smart phones as “black boxes”

wew lad

>there should not be an “absolutist view” on privacy

If you apply this mindset to, say, your bathroom door, then I guess you really wouldn't mind if someone sees you fap or take a shit, then.

>I think does not strike the kind of balance we have lived with for 200, 300 years

Who is Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, code talkers, Claude Shannon, and the fucking Culper Ring, BMI, SIS, OSS, ASA, INSCOM, and so on. See also: every war the US has ever been in, especially the Cold War, and the entire concept of espionage

>fetishizing our phones

That's nearly up there with tiles.

>smart phone technology is “very disruptive and unsettling”

I have to agree on this one. Try talking to someone who uses their phone constantly, it gets really fucking annoying.

>Attorney General Loretta Lynch appeared on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” to make the government’s case on encryption

wew

>“We are not asking for a backdoor, nor are we asking [Apple CEO Tim Cook] to turn anything on to spy on anyone"

>government is “asking them to do what their customer wants.”

wake me up

Anonymous 03/19/16 (Sat) 10:16:55 No.343666

>>343044

what enemies? the average citizen? the vast majority of humans is on the losing side of this technological arms race

Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 19:23:39 No.344988

Funny how all the liberals claim they hate NSA spying, but say nothing when their liberal leaders actually get caught red-handed enforcing it and expanding mass domestic spying. Interesting how the same commies will then blame it all on someone who has never held office, ever.

Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 19:26:18 No.344990

I'll bump my dogshit infowars thread

that'll show em

Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 19:36:42 No.344997

>>343473

>Right to privacy has never protect you when served with a warrant, nor has it exceeded your death.

Except now we have warrantless wiretaps and general warrants and secret courts and mass data collection and spying.

It used to be a warrant was only issued against you with due cause describing the place to be searched and the thing to be searched for. That was what was protecting your privacy.

Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 19:44:25 No.345004

>>344988

>Funny how all the liberals claim they hate NSA spying, but say nothing when their liberal leaders actually get caught red-handed enforcing it and expanding mass domestic spying. Interesting how the same commies will then blame it all on someone who has never held office, ever.

Nah, NSA spying is the fault of libertarians.