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>save democracy

>limit choices to 1

Huh

>>341307

DEMOCRACY IS ONLY DEMOCRACY WHEN EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME

>>341325

KILL THOSE WHO DISAGREE, SO WE WILL OUTNUMBER THE SURVIVORS WHEN THE ELECTION HAPPENS

It's only democracy when it's someone I approve of.

-t. George Soros

>>341307

>THE PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING TRUMP! WE'RE FUCKING VOTING FOR HIM!

>THE PEOPLE

>slightly more than 50% of people who are eligible to vote in Republican primaries who actually do vote and only in the states that have held their primaries

Easy there, tiger. Trump has received at most a couple hundred thousand votes in a country of over 310,000,000 people. That's hardly THE PEOPLE at this point.

>>341332

>niggerfaggots

The meme magick rolls on.

>>341303

>or until they send thousands of us to jail

Frankly, sounds like a good plan tbh smh. Probably won't go as easy for them as it did in the Chicago riot last weekend heh.

https://jii.moe/4J9hmVWax.webm

>>341332

I didn't see any reference to the Arab Spring on their website.

Are you sure the name isn't just because…

you know…

it's almost Spring?

And they're planning to do this in April?

And their website mentions "this spring"?

And maybe you assumed and made an ass of u?

>>341336

>couple hundred thousand votes

. . .

I'll just assume you a) aren't a Burger, or b) randomly spout bullshit as a kind of game.

>>341344

>leftypol

They're planning on playing a make-believe revolution and see themselves as an oppressed underclass.

These people always liken their riots and sheeeit to the arab uprising.

The name is meant to reflect this and tap into the same "omg guys we're revolutionaries *selfie*" mentality that these libtards and chimps have.

Ironically, the arab uprising achieved nothing and this will manage even less \o/.

>>341345

Okay. How many votes has he received so far? Whatever the number is, it's a tiny percentage of the U.S. population. A tiny percentage of U.S. voters, too.

So, not THE PEOPLE.

>>341355

>chkd

This.

>>341355

>fucking do it and usher in the Age of the Rope.

More like the Age of Cobranding. Trump can't even stop talking about his business ventures at his rallies.

President Trump will form the Trump Division of the Army: the soldiers will all be given tacky gold-tone equipment and will be fed exclusively with meals from Trump's resorts, which the taxpayer will pay for.

He'll try to relive the glory days of Trump Airlines by charging for rides on Air Force One (which he will rename Trump One) and Marine One (which he will rename the Trumpacopter).

Interesting times.

>>341362

I think the Dem's votes are low because they don't see much of a difference between the two candidates in the grand scheme of things. They're only concern is "not Republican".

That's why the 2008 numbers were high, coming off the GW administration spurred a lot of them to get anyone in the Whitehouse so long as that person wasn't a Republican. That's also why roughly 15 Dems ran that year. I was afraid our country doomed itself to this cycle. Win or lose, Trump's actions will resonate and finally fix this broken party.

>>341366

You sound as crazy as the people who said "George Bush is going to suspend the Constitution and make himself dictator of the United States!"

It's also worth noting that is the sentiment I get from Republicans now about Obama, "He's going to suspend the Constitution and make himself dictator of the United States."

"You know the Democrats said the exact same thing about you guys during Bush, right?"

"What? That's crazy-talk!"

True shit.

>>341362

>Here's one days turnout my little friend. You figure it out.

Given that it's just one day and there's no information about how the vote was split (Cruz won Texas that day, btw, which would be a large number of votes) that's not particularly informative.

>Don't like it? Then get out and vote you lazy fuck.

Your assumptions are amusing. They make you look pretty stupid.

I didn't say I liked or disliked anything. I pointed out that THE PEOPLE haven't chosen Trump, and it's seriously premature to say that. He hasn't even secured his own party's nomination yet.

And I already voted because my state's primary has passed.

Read the thread and then feel bad for being not very smart.

>>341373

>there's no information

>what is the Internet mommy?

>>341370

>2016

>not being able to detect satire

>>341377

>chkd

kekd

https://archive.is/IFVji

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TRUMPCUCKS STUMPED

REPUBLICANS MORE LIKE RED-PUBLIC-CUNTS

>Democracy Spring

>Trying to destroy a legit presidential candidate's campaign, going against the entire concept of democracy.

Right.

>Largest civil disobediance action.

I hate these people… They are fucking cowards who scream "Down with the System" while making sure that they follow what the system deems acceptable.

Instead of getting something done and perhaps, you know, shooting trump or staging a massacre at a trump rally in order to get the point across, they want to step on eggshells so they accidently don't stir shit up too much to the point that actual change happens

21st century American Revolutionaries, aka The Cowardly Millenial Menace are coming to bring you civil disobediance. What a fucking joke.

>>341307

>implying all the political choices don't make us want to kill ourselves

>They intend to march across the East Coast in order to spark a “fire that transforms the political climate in America.”

So they're going to destroy the entire east coast in their chimpout.

Cool, maybe they'll hit San Francisco and the problem will solve itself.

>>341391

>When you go full retard and forget that East =/= West

>>341384

Expect rioting and violence like in Chicago.

>>341396

Yes

>>341392

Trump is suggesting that his supporters will chimp out in Cleveland if he doesn't get the nomination.

>white people don't chimp out

>>341382

That's actually a pretty good takedown of Trump, your hysterical redtext notwithstanding.

>>341403

Heh, it's an underestimate imo lad. Demonstrations will happen all over the nation if the GOP flaunts We the People's will on the matter.

Pop Quiz:

Trump divides the Republican party and helps get Clinton elected to office. What year is it?

A) 1992

B) 2000

C) 2016

D) All of the above.

Gee, how tolerant of them!

>>341409

Well, if you had said Perot instead of Trump, I'd say A. But I'll have to say E, *maybe* 2016. Depends on how the GOP handles the convention.

>>341412

Trump made an exploratory run in 1992 and, lacking support, threw his support behind Perot. He was a vocal supporter of Perot in his indie run.

Also, in 2000, Trump supported Lazio in his run against Giuliani for the vacant US Senate seat against Hillary.

History is a wonderful thing that Trumpfags don't know about. They don't need no book learnin

>>341414

Well aware. That was then. Pretty big fucking difference today, however.

>>341414

Interesting, I didn't know that about '92 and '00.

2016 still remains to be seen, though.

So vote for who they want or there going to throw a hissy fit.

Sounds like Occupy 2.0 tbh, and we all know how well that turned out.

>>341401

>Trump makes America hate our students.

I hate our students already! I'm voting for this Trump guy!

Just a tip to Trump supporters if anyone tells you a wall can't be built show them the Great Wall of China.

>>341336

>Easy there, tiger. Trump has received at most a couple hundred thousand votes in a country of over 310,000,000 people. That's hardly THE PEOPLE at this point.

hes the leading candidate right now and has the most delegates. as for how many votes, thats normal. i get sick to my stomach listening to folks act like the idea of people in the usa being able to elect their candidate of choice is somehow an alien concept reserved for the ignorant.

>>341468

>Just a tip to Trump supporters if anyone tells you a wall can't be built show them the Great Wall of China.

That's kind of a silly example. The Great Wall of China is actually a series of fortifications that were built over the course of over a millennium, with a lot of slave/forced labor. Also, they didn't get the Mongols to pay for it.

I don't think anybody disputes that a significant wall theoretically could be built between the US and Mexico. It's an engineering challenge that's well within our abilities. It's the practical concerns, political and financial, that make it ridiculous. Obviously, Mexico isn't going to pay for it. I don't think American taxpayers would want to pay for it, once they realize how much an effective wall would actually cost.

If you want to discourage illegal immigration from Mexico and Central America, there are better ideas, some of which Trump has argued for. Like ending the ability of people to stay in the country because of anchor babies. People inaccurately call that "ending birthright citizenship", but that's not what it is, since jus sanguinis citizenship isn't being questioned, just jus soli citizenship.

Anyway, the wall isn't going to happen. It's a fun thought, but that's all.

>>341403

Chimping? m8 you haven't seen what happen when whites collectively get good and mad?

>>341496

>Obviously, Mexico isn't going to pay for it

The wall is $10 billion, the trade deficit is $58 billion. Trump literally just closing the border and shooting anyone who tries to cross would make the country $58 billion/year richer. The wall is peanuts in comparison.

Get out there /leftypol/! Do you part to kick start this shit you fucking faggots.

>>341506

Not only that, if the wall is built, that means the cartels have to spend more and more resources just to smuggle drugs and people into the US. This will put a huge strain on their organization, meaning that they won't be able to buy off half the Mexican government. Less corrupt Mexico = better Mexico. Seriously, Mexico wouldn't be that bad of a country if they weren't so god damn corrupt.

>>341506

I don't think you understand what a trade deficit is.

Building a wall isn't going to repeal NAFTA.

>>341401

CPD is the most corrupt cop organization in the country, and the Mayor is an Obama dick rider. They let the rioting happen.

>>341337

America is burning and you're watching it happen.

Prepare for Balkanization.

>>341303

>Anti-Trump Groups Threaten

Hmm?

>Largest

Yes

>Civil

War?!

>Disobedience

Ugh.

Get me all worked up for nothing. At least if enough blacks join their wrist flapping or whatever those faggots consider "doing something" is now a days, there will be some fights.

>>341529

Doing things in an orderly fashion is not chimping out, the biggest white chimpout in history was the american civil war, deal with it.

>>341532

>reddit

Done.

>>341532

>how do you debunk opinions?

You don't. You just allow other people have different ones.

Or, if you're a Sanders supporter, you riot. You throw a gigantic fit until everyone pretends to agree with you to shut you up.

>>341537

>can't answer a single point

>neurons fire

>muh reddit

Typical /pol/ack.

>>341540

>You throw a gigantic fit until everyone pretends to agree with you to shut you up.

That's funny, because that's all I see with Trumpcucks.

People say Democrats are fascist and only now am I starting to see it

>>341541

>That's funny, because that's all I see with Trumpcucks.

Yeah, remember that time Trump supporters rioted because of a Sanders rally and shot paramedics after attacking wheelchair-bound Sanders supporters?

That was a hell of a day.

>>341382

>>In 2013, after Trump said he would donate $5 million to charity if President Obama would release his long form birth certificate to the public, Bill Maher joked that he would give Trump $5 million if he could prove that his father was not an orangutan. Trump sent Maher a copy of his birth certificate. When Maher didn’t pay up, Trump sued him for the $5 million.

That's actually fucking awesome.

>>341532

>The nationalist successful businessman is not the alternative to a communist life-long elected official

Stating the obvious.

>>341332

Naming your movement after a lost cause is always hilarious

>>341384

If they truly want to see the largest civil disobedience action then let them see what would happen if Hillary somehow won

>>341541

The only Pro Trump interrupter I saw was a possible Plant in a Rubio Rally

#nobodygivesashitabouthashtags

trump fortells civil riots nation-wide if he somehow loses nomination

Soros is gonna have a field day with this since he LOVES Civil Unrest

>>341303

So democracy is fine as long as you vote for the right people?

>>341303

>The pro-Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)16%

MoveOn.org has been playing a prominent role in organizing anti-Trump activism, including last weekend’s shutdown of the billionaire’s rally at the University of Illinois at Chicago Pavilion.

Dirty & biased media tactics at its finest. Trying to associate this with Bernie in any way. He has nothing to do with this. And there were only about 5 to 10 people(out of how many in attendance & protesting?) shouting "Bernie" at that rally. If you watch the rally video it also shows just two small scuffles which were quickly broken up. Hyped up media bullshit, and you are all eating it up.

Moveon.org had an employee vote on who to endorse, which narrowly chose Sanders over Hillary. And the fact it's connected to Soros(if you can even believe this article on that, too) is irrelevant as well. These protesters work independently, just random tards.

For Trump supporter who claim to hate mainstream media, you sure do cling to it a lot, when it's in favor of your candidate. Just like the regressives do.

>inb4 you try damage control with that retarded "hipster/anti-SJW" meme

>>341332

>That they're naming themselves after the Arab spring is hilarious

Someone should remind them what kicked off the Arab spring was someone from Tunisia setting themselves on fire.

>>341401

>Trump makes America hate our students

That's funny, I'm pretty sure our students make Americans hate our students.

>>341303

>civil disobedience

It's not civil disobedience if you are showing up to cause trouble for someone who isn't yet an authority figure. It's just criminal harassment and public disturbance.

>>341631

>to cause trouble for someone who isn't yet an authority figure

Well, to be fair, you can protest anyone or anything in this country, no matter how stupid.

>>341623

>The pro-Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)16% MoveOn.org has been playing a prominent role in organizing anti-Trump activism, including last weekend’s shutdown of the billionaire’s rally at the University of Illinois at Chicago Pavilion.

Party foul, I greentexted wrong. I just woke up.

>>341303

>mass civil disobedience

There is so much shit going on that would call for that to happen and the idiots choose Drumpf?

Anyone who can't see that they're either paid or brainwashed to an extreme degree belongs into the gulag.

>>341632

Even still, protests need the right permissions and permits, along with prior warning and scheduling. Your right to protest doesn't involve flooding into a private event kicking and screaming.

Civil disobedience refers to acts of protest against authority figures. Sit ins at government buildings. Hunger strikes in front of police stations. Gathering in public spaces for demonstrations and marches.

Throwing a brick through your neighbor's window because you think he's a cunt isn't civil disobedience. It's a crime.

>>341336

That problem exists thanks o the voting system.

You know, winner takes it all and shit.

>>341636

No, winner takes some (freedoms from you), then the next winner does the same, then the next, and the next. It's a vote on what rights you'd rather lose.

>>341635

>Even still, protests need the right permissions and permits, along with prior warning and scheduling.

But doesn't it seem stupid & against the concept of a protest to have these rules? It does make it harder when you're actually trying to legitimately protest, for a reason(reminds me of Hazard County, USA in my home state).

If you ask me, these idiots could've used their time much more wisely, like doing actual things that could get people to listen to their message, whatever that was here.. Regressive tards think they have a right to do this when they don't, and are making people think that Sanders supporters behave this way. Infringing on people's free speech is ghastly, and it seems most of these college fucks were trying to do just that.

>Your right to protest doesn't involve flooding into a private event kicking and screaming.

(I'm not defending these tards, one bit, just fyi)

I mostly agree.

>>341617

>>341640

>But doesn't it seem stupid & against the concept of a protest to have these rules?

It makes sense to me.

Otherwise (for example) businesses could shut down their competitors with continual protests.

>>341396

the real disappointment is you saving a thumbnail

>>341642

>Otherwise (for example) businesses could shut down their competitors with continual protests.

Hmm, possibly. But they could just get permits to shut them down, as well.

>>341654

I presume if the protests is about gaining a business advantage rather than raising legitimate grievances then a permit wouldnt be granted.

Bear in mind many of the black lives matter protestors are being paid to protest, its a dangerous resource for someone corrupt business to invest in.

>>341658

>I presume if the protests is about gaining a business advantage rather than raising legitimate grievances then a permit wouldnt be granted.

Lets hope this is the case.

>Bear in mind many of the black lives matter protestors are being paid to protest, its a dangerous resource for someone corrupt business to invest in.

Yeah, don't get me started on BLM. The corruption & money involved in politics is involved on all sides. Funding campaigns & funding movements. What a time to be alive.

>Radical leftists want a riot to stop Donald Trump's nomination.

>Lefties riot in places not having an election day.

Solid plan! Wonderful! Brilliant!

>>341669

They just want to show off their nigger armies. It's amazing. Democrats have done next to nothing for black people over the last 50 years, but the blacks still always show up to vote Democrat and are even (((the left)))'s shocktroops. You couldn't possibly design a better slave class.

>>341332

>what is 1848

>>341390

You only feel that way because Bernie is out of the race. Just because you're too short sited to see that Trump is an excellent choice, doesn't mean there's no options.

>>341344

Go back to your hugbox, /leftypol/

>>341673

Bricigarette here:

Wasnt it the republicunts who freed the slaves?

The dumbocraps campaigned to keep niggers enslaved I believe.

>>341382

Holy shit, that's well done. It provides a lot of quotes & links for informational purposes, and I'll be using them from this point forward!

A redditor did something good!

TRUMP STUMPED.. BY REDDITOR!

>>341686

You do realize people will laugh at you for quoting bullshit e-statistics?

>>341344

If thats the case its a stupid name, does this mean the "civil disobedience" wont continue into summer, will it happen after after Trump is elected too?

>>341680

There's nothing that makes us think he's /leftypol/, anon.

>>341686

Wtf bullshit e-statistics are you talking about?

Those links were from many, multiple sources, and from the candidates own websites.

>>341686

>Sources include the daily beast, wikipedia and huff post

Erm…

>>341691

The ones in the post.

I fully respect the rights of all people to freely vote, freely protest, speak etc.

I disagree with most of Trump's policies, but if he did get elected, it wouldn't be the end of the world like so many people are saying. Thats just silly. I thought the end was nigh in 2004 with Bush and Howard here in Oz, but things just kept going.

In my perspective things will just keep getting worse with Clinton or Trump due to the whole system etc, the only difference will be the rate.

People should be free to be stupid like this whole movement though. And of course we should be free to laugh and criticize it non stop :).

>>341692

Out of like 100 links.

>>341694

No shit, I was asking specifically, which "bullshit e-statistics"?

You guys are desperate to discredit this well written & sourced take down, lmao. :^)

>>341698

>No shit, I was asking specifically, which "bullshit e-statistics"?

People will laugh if you quote any of them.

>>341702

Lmao

>no argument

>>341623

>If you watch the rally video it also shows just two small scuffles which were quickly broken up

They burned down a church.

>>341703

Correct. Im not arguing with you.

Im just telling you what response you are going to get.

>>341692

I just checked & all I found was one link to Huff post(again, out of like 100). None to wikipedia or the Daily beast.

You have to lie to try to discredit it. You can keep your head in the sand, if you like.

>>341705

>Im not arguing with you.

Then don't make bullshit assertions.

>>341707

They arent bullshit.

>>341704

Lmao, liar.

>>341709

Then prove it, faggot.

There's only one post from Huffpost, and that was quoting Trump directly.

>so assmad

>>341711

OK post some of the stuff and I will prove that people will laugh at you.

>>341715

>You have to prove my assertion for me

>>341717

Its not your assertion that people will laugh at you its mine.

>>341715

>>341717

And I actually already proved it wrong, lmao. What are you even talking about anymore?

>>341718

>I've got nothing.. Let me try to confuse them!

This is entertaining, anon.

Just feel the Bern already, I don't care how much Trump shills pay you, it will be worth it for you to save embarrassment.

>>341720

Im just saiyan If your sources were not laughable you would have posted them by now.

But I will admit it does feel good to be paid $500k per year to shill for Trump on 8chan.

>>341701

Though that's a hilarious image, don't make the assumption that all people against Trump are like xim(Did I do it right? Nm.. Don't care).

>>341725

The link is posted right there >>341382

Like I said, if you have a problem with any of the links therein or arguments, that's your problem. Feel free to discuss them here.

test

>>341727

Everyone Ive met who is against Trump is a genderfluid disabled muslim feminist.

>>341727

Everyone Ive met who is against Trump is a genderfluid disabled muslim feminist.

>>341730

Oh right.

Heres a link to my rebuttal.

www.donaldtrump.com

Do you see how arguing by quoting internet sites doesnt work?

>>341735

>>341737

Lmao :P You're alright sometimes, anon.

>>341332

>drama in Washington

>drama

>Washington

So basicly the same as usual for Washington D.C.? How will anyone notice thru all the natural background drama generated in our national capital?

>>341336

>310,000,000 people

I thought there was more than that?

>>341740

Y-you too.

>>341750

God damn. I'm not even half way through that webm & it's nuts. I'd never get in a cop's face like that. Definitely privileged college kids who've never been put in their place before. They should be protesting financial establishments, not targeting regular cops just trying to do their goddamn jobs.

>They'd likely get bailed out by their rich political sponsors/ political groups

Shit, who needs that when you've got rich parents?

And what's with all those cell phones? This is just amazing to me. I've not seen anything like this.

>University of Akron student

>learn that Sanders has moved his rally to a theater about three blocks away

>outside is a van that only belongs at Grateful Dead concerts and a 50 year old dude in a USSR shirt and a steel pot helmet yelling communist rhetoric at passers by

>there's also a handful of Trump supporters outside trying to troll the people going in

>as well as the DUDE WEED LAMO movement trying to get signatures for the ballot in November

>get there shortly before Sanders is set to come on, take seat behind person with half their hair dyed blue and I couldn't tell if it was a boy or a girl

>there's a sassy black woman from the Ohio state senate opening for him and most of what she talks about is civil rights and progressive politics

>everyone goes apeshit when Sanders says he's going to end the gender wage gap

>then again when he says he's going to forgive student loans and make tuition free, he claims student debt is a punishment for getting a good education

>says he's going to force the $15/hr minimum wage because Walmart is forcing its employees to go on welfare, which he says is taxpayers subsidizing the richest family in America

>also says something that alludes to shortening workdays

>and taxing speculation by Wall St.

>says he's going to invest $1 trillion in rebuilding American infrastructure

>shits on Clinton's support for NAFTA, and TPP

>complains about how NAFTA moved American jobs to Mexico and China and how it needs to be reversed, then complained about the living conditions in those countries for the workers

>had to leave an hour in for work

For what it's worth, Sanders is like a progressive version of Trump: he and his supporters are a bunch of anti-status quo types pissed off with how things have gone for the last 8-16 years. It's just they think things haven't been socialist and progressive enough.

>>341303

>Trump wins

>SJW and illegals chimp out and riot

>Clinton wins

>Trumpistas, tea partiers, and boomers chimp out and riot

It's going to be an interesting next 12 months…

>>341343

You watch this shit, where the crowd's trying to swallow up cops while the cops pluck some of the protestors out and arrest them.

For the cops, it might as well be hippie fishing.

>>341759

>No. Just no to all of that.

Just because some regressive tards like him doesn't mean that's what he stands for.

>It's just they think things haven't been socialist and progressive enough.

Not necessarily. We need the government to step up & do their damn job. And that starts with getting industry insiders out of our government agencies. They've been fully infiltrated to the highest levels(EPA by fossil fuel & other industries, FDA by pharmaceutical company higher-ups). This & organizations like ALEC need to be reigned in. If you don't know about ALEC, you should look it up right now. And for economic stability, we don't necessarily need more regulation, just for them to put back/reinstate the policies that they've repealed, like Glass-Steagall, for instance.

I'm a Sanders supporter. The economy, trade & education are the issues I care about the most. Healthcare following those. We're going to have another market crash if we don't curtail this BS on Wall Street.

But hey, neighborino(if you really are from Ohio), I'm from KY. What about this heroin epidemic lately? Shit's gotten insane lately. I've lost 5 friends over the past 1 & half years. Sanders is the only one I've heard even mentioning this heroin epidemic. I don't know what the solution is, but prison reform & treating addiction as the health issue it is, is a start. I'm just tired of hearing about friends dying.

>>341343

Anyone else having issues with this webm, or is it just my shitty connection? It gets to about half way, then stops. If someone could download it & repost it here, that'd be great. My converter/downloader is fucking up.

>>341773

I tend to think legalized pot will help. Get these pot heads out of an illegal environment and I bet it stops being a "gateway" drug

high yield, high potency stink bombs.

thoughts?

>>341776

That's actually a good proposal, and I think you're right. I voted for Rand Paul on that basis, many years back. He got some things done, by making pot possession just a ticketable offense, which was a move in the right direction. But then he just forgot about us citizens.

Anyway, that's a good start. These cops/drug taskforces aren't doing enough apparently, either. Because this shit is flooding in & now we're starting to see tar heroin here, which was mostly a Western US thing & hadn't been seen for decades. And you used to be able to find pain pills on the street, but now they're basically non-existent & heroin is all you can find. People are dropping like flies.

Something fishy is going on, it seems.

>>341773

Regarding ALEC, Bill Moyers did a fantastic piece on it, explaining all you need to know & how our legislation works now. It's called "The United States of ALEC". I've linked it here.

Anyone worried about corruption in the government should see it & know what's going on. It's absolutely nuts.

>le trump thread

sad to see people so easily led by a mainstream shill spouting nothing but violent, arrogant rhetoric. if you think the president matters you don't belong here, normalfag trumpcucks. stop buying into the spectacle like good little goyim.

>>341543

They even blocked the ambulances from taking people on both sides to the hospital.

Pretty sick of Drumpf and his ID politics brigade shitting up this board.

>>341773

>I'm a Sanders supporter

>neighborino

Stinking hippie fedora tipping Redditor detected

>>341773

Just because I called it the "DUDE WEED LAMO movement" doesn't mean I'm against it. It means I just hate 90%+ of the people actually a part of it because they're a bunch of hyper-progressive tools.

The strategy to the heroin problem right now is prevention and putting a boot up pharma's ass. I work in criminal justice; the HIDTA office I was helping for class is cracking down on over-prescribing of meds, especially those containing opiates. And there is prison reform: if people plea bargain on their drug charges, they usually get put into a treatment program. The problem is they tend to slip up, miss a session or two, and their court-ordered piss cup or blood sample will contain opiates, heroin, and other goodies.

>>341793

>That's all you took from the post

Hey, we're allowed to use lame words sometimes, anon. And I was being silly, obviously.

Thanks to the link spammer, I can come in here and say what I'm sure a hundred other anons already said:

>We demand congress save our democracy

>by forcing them to not adhere to vox populi, the foundation of our democracy

>>341776

>I tend to think legalized pot will help

I used to think that but after the Treyvon and Mike Brown incidents ive become convinced that weed makes black people more violent.. Which is odd because for all the other races it makes them very passive.

>>341791

>Drumpf

Who is that?

>>341760

Now that's just an insult to Bolsheviks.

>>341795

I definitely wouldn't say 90%+, but yeah, I hate them, too. They make any legitimate movement look crazy & should be prevented from doing so. How, I don't know.

>cracking down on over-prescribing of meds

You know what's funny? Is that's doing the complete opposite effect, or at least contributing to the problem. I work in the health field, and was there when House Bill 1 was put into place in KY, which called for semi-mandatory drug screening for anyone receiving opiates or controlled substance RXs. It sounded good, but had some crazy unintended consequences.

What happened was, many people were denied their medication if they had pot in their systems. Medication many really needed, and it was hard for me to send out letters to people who were being informed they could not receive their medicine anymore. But the most important consequence was, pills of course dried up on the streets, and in the rare occurrence you could find them, the price skyrocketed because of low supply & high demand. People who were addicted were looking for anything that would make them not be sick, any opiate. All of the sudden, heroin could fill that niche, dealers took advantage of that and it flooded in. Heroin is also dirt cheap, now.

When it comes to these "treatment programs", those are a disaster. All they offer is drug court. And I've known only one person who made it through drug court without failing a drug test & being sent to jail or prison. It's not rehab, in any shape or form. It's basically drug probation. They should offer actual rehabs. And in many cases, the Drug Courts won't allow addicts to receive Methadone or Suboxone treatment. They treat it as an illicit drug. It's really insane & a broken system.

>>341799

It's not that weed makes them more violent, it's that having weed makes them more prone to acts of violence and stupid-ass decisions due to the glorified dealer lifestyle. Look to their idols, not their hobbies.

>>341686

>>341692

>>341698

>>341703

>>341707

>>341710

>>341711

>>341717

>>341720

Here's your rebuttal, but feel free to crow and claim victory before you've even read it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4atcqz/debunking_antitrump_post_donald_trump_is_not_the/

>>341799

>weed makes them very passive

A relative of mine has smoked it their whole life maybe once a week and I've watched them gradually become less and less intelligent and they throw childish temper tantrums for several days after smoking it, so it's definitely chemically imbalancing them in some way for several days afterward.

>>341807

Sounds like hes got some deeper problems and is self medicating with weed.

But your right that could have been the case for Treyvon or Mike Brown too.

>>341660

Applied Memetics might be paying him.

>>341787

>le you don't belong here.

You must be new here.

>>341804

That's not what I mean: the HIDTA office here is trying to recreate the Boston's office plan because it worked: stop people from being prescribed meds unnecessarily in the first place. Boston managed to get in with a medical school and develop a 1 credit hour course for doctors and pharmacists for their CE requirements that was basically "stop giving everyone that comes into your office a fucking prescription, you quacks. The ones who aren't are alright."

New England's seen a reduction in opiate abuse and new heroin addicts since they started going after doctors and trying to drill some resistance to prescribing this shit into them. You work in the medical field, so does half my family, so I know that you know at least one doctor who gives anything to any patient that twists their arm enough.

As far as treatment programs, the halfway houses and clinics here do offer treatment, I don't know about methadone usage though. I just worked on creative surveillance (as in, bypassing the need for a warrant).

>freedom of speech is important!

>nooooooo you can't protest things i've been tricked into believing, that's evil and wrong!

>KILL THEM, KILL THEM ALL, O MIGHTY STATE, AND I SHALL VOTE FOR THEE

I look from hillshills to trumpcucks and see only cringing dogs of the state.

>>341806

This article is nothing close to debunking, rather fact checks a couple of things which were pointed out in the comment section already, of the original post.

The author of the original post uses multiple sources for each claim. So if just one is misquoted(only one was), it simply doesn't make the others not true. It was wise to include multiple sources for each claim.

>Climate change

>he's blatantly wrong again. He confuses a news article with Trump's official position again. He claims Trump's official website published:

This is from the horse's mouth:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/265895292191248385 (He then claims to be semi-serious about it, but then reaffirms it in the next link.)

http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/01/06/fox-regular-donald-trump-decries-climate-change/197432

He calls global warming a hoax, outright.

>Minimum wage & income inequality

This "debunking" article just claims the original poster didn't include enough of Trump's plan. The OP linked to it.

>Trump may be against raising the minimum wage, but it's not because he wants working people to earn less, but because he wants to bring back good paying jobs, instead of artificially raising the wages of unproductive jobs.

This is their rebuttal to minimum wage.

>Bring back good paying jobs

Which are?

>unproductive jobs

Like what?

>Foreign policy

Sanders has much, much more experience dealing with foreign policy. The author of this rebuttal post isn't satisfied with that.

Trump has flip flopped on his support for the Iraq War, which OP rightly pointed out. The rebuttal just isn't happy with it.

It's important to note the length & detail in the OP vs. the rebuttal. And lack of links in the rebuttal - only 3. Trump supporters always seem lazy. :^)

>Electoral College

>"he admits Trump has expressed desire to reform the system, but criticizes him for not being specific enough. The general elections are still several months away. He will come up with a specific plan when he considers it the proper time."

>It seems that rather being a post showing what both candidates propose, it was a deliberate attempt to smear Trump and cherrypick anything that could be used against him. In fact, in his eagerness to smear Trump, he even went on to wrongly attribute him two quotes merely because they were in articles about Trump.

They were articles from Trump's own website. And I'd hardly call it as him being "eager to smear Trump". Firstly, don't flatter yourselves. Secondly, OP's post was extremely well thought out, pretty balanced(he even admits he's voting Sanders). It contained fair criticism for both candidates.

>>341806

Jamaica had a poll recently in which the vast majority of the population said life was better under British Colonialism.

SJWs have their own style of imperialism. For instance trying to dictate what goes on in those Japanese animee cartoons.

They force San Francisco culture on everyone around the world but unlike old style colonialism it doesnt come with any benefits such a stable government and lack of corruption.

>>341841

As far as treatment you listed, I'm surprised. Clinics should be very helpful. They cover the medical side while halfway houses cover the social side.

Boston/New England seems much more progressive/advanced on these issues than KY. It's surprising how different states can be in the way they tackle issues.

KY is also implementing stricter drug court & many practices from Florida, which are ghastly. Florida has been late to the party in curbing opiate RX abuse & greedy doctors, then overcompensated by going too hard. They're handing out insanely harsh sentences for illegal opiate RX possessions, etc. I knew a lot of people who used to regularly to "pain clinics" in FL to get opiates. Basically, they were drug dens run by doctors. There was always a line out the door, people fucked up in the parking lot & all you had to do was bring money & basically ask for what you wanted(kind of like the mail order RXs, if you remember those. I used those a couple of times, actually). It was like a dream for drug addicts, and I couldn't believe it was allowed to happen. They're shutting them down now, I believe. But the damage has been done to many people.

>so I know that you know at least one doctor who gives anything to any patient that twists their arm enough.

Oh, yes. Thank God they're rarer now. It used to be any doctor would supply you. Now even in KY they've really cracked down on it. I completely agree with cracking down on these doctors(a great strategy that will stop so many from becoming addicts in the first place).

But the atmosphere around KY(possibly many other states, too) in the past 5 years is, any doctor is scared to prescribe pain meds. Even when you're in the ER in immense pain, you're looked at like a drug addict if you ask for pain medication. I've been in such severe tooth pain I couldn't move, and had to jump through hoops to get some relief with pain medication. I'm a complete pussy when it comes to pain.

Anyway, I totally agree with that approach, of shutting down greedy doctors who overprescribe. Good for your state. It's their greed that motivates these doctors & they create addicts with no regard to them or society. Many addicts who had no idea what causes addiction or just very uneducated. I was one of them. So public information campaigns like PSAs would actually be very valuable. And not just those lazy, "before & after" photos of meth addicts, but with actual information on how it happens & what these people suffer afterwards. They should put as much effort into demonizing painkillers(which deserve it) as they do for pot(which doesn't, especially not on that level). I was so pissed when I realized I was addicted, because I didn't know anything about addiction so that I could've prevented it. I described it as something like a cruel joke waking up one morning, realizing I needed them now.

Now I know, and know far too much about what causes addiction & how it affects people. People like you & I should work together. ;) I give you a former addict's perspective & you relay it to your bosses. We should really all work together to combat this.

>Sorry about the blog post, I feel strongly about all of this

>>341873

through empire the savage were risen from the dirt and became men

now we cast good men into the dirt and they rise savage

we are ruled by the greedy and corrupt, populism is the gospel and our god is a golden lie

>>341303

lmfao, they act as if they cant vote. guess what dipshits, you cant vote if you're in prison

all this over a bunch of shitty sandniggers? where is this enthusiasm when it comes to TPP and other shit that actually matters? a large portion of this society should be rounded up and gassed; they are malignant cancer.

Anyone have the video of the black guy talking about niggers [blacks] with guns and how there are 10 year old white girls who are harder than them?

>>341529

>Implying Hitler ruined anything

>>341532

>reddit

Already debunked.

>Sanders is a jew.

And again.

>>341864

Imperialism actually worked quite well until everyone stopped doing it because it was "raycyst".

>>341336

>Those voters don't represent the people

>Elected to represent the people

It's the democrats that are mad, they don't want us to have the candidate that we want.

They want an easy win.

Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and that other guy are all too much like Romney.

They won't win in the general election and they know that.

Trump is the only candidate that can win on the republican side.

>>341681

Yes. They also tried to send them back to Africa (with their own country, no less, backed by the US).

Liberia is a shining example of African-American ingenuity and work ethic to this day.

>>341303

>Democracy Spring

FFS, at least get an original name Soros. At least BLM was a good monkier. This shit OTOH sounds completely autistic.

>>341941

Hitler ruined the good name of eugenics.

>>341980

Liberia is a shining example of African-American ingenuity and work ethic to this day.

>>341986

no it was ruined ever since an american anthropologist presented the works of a french eugenicist to the Royal Academy in London completely disregarding Darwinian theories

he was booed off the stage by professors and doctorates alike for being an incompetent hack and a moron

eugenics is doomed to failure because it disregards genetics and molecular biology, it is a pseudo-science likened to phrenology

what you desire is not eugenics but artificial selection

>>341720

BERN EXTINGUISHED

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-democrats-220793

>>341980

Liberia is a shining example of African-American ingenuity and work ethic to this day.

>>341996

Completely biased & bullshit article Shillary's paid for. Anyone who follows politics knows it's bs, too.

>extinguished

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

Trump will be, soon.

>>342004

>0 for 5

>bs

>>342008

Anon did say retroactively, implying that they're no longer a Democrat.

>>342016

3 of those 5 were almost too close to call, like most of the states to this point already.

He did damn good in North Carolina. With Florida, well, it's Florida..

It's still anyone's ballgame. And the media has been jumping the gun this entire Primary process. Bernie has had an amazing run so far, and it will continue.

>>342016

I notice you didn't comment on the Trump + Sanders match-up link, in which Sander smashes him nationwide, in countless polls.

>Civil disobedience

So they are planning to give Trump more free publicity in an act that, like the Chicago "Protests" , will only strengthen Trump?

>>342022

>Bernie has had an amazing run so far, and it will continue.

Damn right, it's amazing seeing Hillary fuck him up the ass state after state.

>>342033

No.

>>342022

they let you borrow all that money so you would become desperare and vote for bernie, you are even going to march for the guy

shits hilarious

>>341873

as men we have to disown it and seperate ourselves from it, we have to denounce it at every opportunity and make it clear that what we approve is the preservation of their culture and sovereignity. the progressives have no say when western men refuse to enforce their agenda. let them emasculate you and call you a coward, but history will judge them

>>342052

I can't march since I'm out of the country at the moment. Anyway if I weren't, I probably still wouldn't tbh. I'm a shut-in, like the rest of us here.

>borrow money

What?

>>342067

Don't get too excited. This isn't even Bernie's final form.

Civil disobedience my ass, these people are going to riot.

But if they want a riot, they'd better be prepared.

Also this is Soros funded, correct?

>>342077

>be berniebro

>we are different

>fuck trump shills!

>post /pol/ tier meme

>think it will register

nice try though, i see the astroturf is looking more and more like real grass everyday. maybe after a few more months of research you might win some of us over, but it will all be over by then. its harder when you can ban people isnt it?

>>342092

I think they can see it. It's just that authoritarians on either side don't care about your rights.

Why are people so emotional over Trump? Like, there are levels of hatred of him that I don't think I've seen since Bush got his second term. He's probably the most centrist Republican candidate, to the point that he's been accused by multiple people of not being a real conservative, but these progressive kids seem to think that he's literally Hitler. Stranger yet, most of the anti-Trump propaganda is from the GOP. Why do progressives suddenly believe what the right is saying?

>>341341

You don't need to be ashamed that you're a democrat, you have plenty to be ashamed of for being a ponyfag.

>>342077

Second place is the first to lose. The fact that Hillary has been consistently beating Bernie yet you still insist he has a better chance of beating Trump is absolutely hilarious.

>>342111

It's insisted through polls, not by me, you tard.

Like I said, he's up against the establishment & media blackouts. Interestingly, Trump is not & Bernie still beats him.

Those polls are really grinding at you, aren't they, anon. :^)

>>342101

>Why do progressives suddenly believe what the right is saying?

Because they will listen to anyone that hates the same things they hate.

>>341303

>Anti Trump voters to get arrested in force with some silly protest.

>Could have just piled votes onto who ever gets Democrat nomination

>Instead can't vote because in jail.

Not sure they are really thinking this through. They are protesting like he already won it.

>>341719

Shilling is pretty heavy. I guess they're worried.

>>342086

>never have arguments

I forgot we were supposed to have "arguments" for porn pics.

Fuck off Applied Memetics fag/other shill.

>>341775

Tried right-clicking > downloading it anon? At least that should eliminate any bandwidth issues for playback. Do it, because the second half if the good bit.

>>341951

Some of the worst atrocities that happened in the African colonies were due to liberal programmes , e.g. the Rwandan massacre.

>>342169

>You aren't entitled to fake news just to make you feel better.

I agree. So stop doing it, nigger.

>>341337

Named for Arab Spring the failed movement that brought Slave trade and legal rape back to into Muslim Mainstream law as well as giving a country to the Brotherhood AND spawning ISIS.

>>341679

idgaf about Bernie being out i saw that coming from miles away trump just wont be able to get anything done with either party bc both parties hate him.

I have question about "populism." Isn't the populist supposed to win in a democracy? Saying the populist is ignorant is like saying that politicians are the aristocracy and no one else is fit to make decisions. I don't understand how anyone can seriously make this argument in public when you live and supposedly support the democracy.

>>341679 I would wholeheartedly support trump if i believed he would actually be able to do anything while in office. But i just don't think he will. If the GOP is considering kicking him out i doubt very many people in the republican party support him.

>>342207

Burgerland isn't a Democracy anon. We're a Democratic Republic.

>>342212

Does that make it okay to oppose the populist simply for having the "commoner's" vote?

>>342213

We have a system that was devised to work for the common good of the Republic back in the day before modern telecommunications.

Delegates (typically landed gentry) would travel (often long distances) to join the convention and cast the populist vote for their constituencies. In the event of no clear consensus, they would then have rounds of voting & horse-trading in between, until a clear nominee was obtained.

I'm not a US historian, so take this description with many grains of salt. But as I understand it atp, this basically the process.

Today it's a rather archaic system that most likely should be replaced now that we have modern telecommunications. But to do so would fundamentally change the nature of the Republic–something that's extremely unlikely to happen outside of TSHTF.

>>342190

>

Deport her.

>>341696

>rational poster

>on /n/

You have to be some kind of plant.

>>342229

kekd

>>342243

At this point i went from Anger straight to Acceptance, Seeing first hand what a disgrace that is modern democrats have become

>>341336

Hey retard, the people are choosing him, and your a faggot who randomly pulled a number out of his ass and called it the population

>>341372

his management skills consist of throwing tantrums when things don't quite go his way. yeah…he's a real gooooooooood leader.

churlish moron.

as far as winning is concerned, the majority of his businesses have ended in bankruptcy.

lastly, the republican party has a biiiiiig surprise for him at the convention. he's gonna get the blanket party of his life! all the votes trump will get will be split among cruz and kucinich.

>>342312

>the majority of his businesses have ended in bankruptcy.

Utter bullshit. The success to failure ratio is roughly 20:1 .

>>341396

What is this, a Kaiser for ants?

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/pbs-show-inadvertently-features-trump-supporters-white-power-tattoos

Mine eyes have seen the glory.

>>341532

>reddit

You have to go back

>>341941

The mustache.

Not exactly "ruined" but enough people are afraid of someone mentioning the 6 gozillion to wear it.

>>342409

yeah i read a facebook post where a guy was reachig out to trump supporters for their reasoning. it was obvious bait. hes been writing paragraphs of nothing but ad hominem.

>>342410

I had a real honest debate with an intelligent friend of mine, thinking he wouldn't create some bullshit. Sure enough, he tried to convince me that of the same thing anon over there said, which was Trump being a billionaire is irrelevant because he filed for bankruptcy before.

>>342409

standard operating procedure for all liberals.

see also the rape hysteria crisis in all american colleges, and social justice in general.

>>342423

well I could be wrong or oversimplifying, but I believe a whoooole lot of them are basically children. still in college, having their group think compacted by their professors, and the entire MSM.

>>342410

ironically this is why trump is doing so well.

he has utterly changed the game so much, the playing field is unrecognizable to both the left and the right. he's using their own rules against them, and forcing them to double down on their social justice bullshit, which just makes everyone hate them more and love trump more.

>>342424

You're probably right. I have 2 nieces whom I'm so proud of in that they can at least name 3 nominees for the 2016 race. They're young children, barely double digit age and I think their teachers are anti-trumping them as well. They seem to think Trump is going to deport everyone who isn't white and that he's a racist. I know they cant operate a computer outside of finding entertainment so surely they didn't come to that conclusion on their own

>>341791

Leftfags are triggered that Trump's name literally means victory.

>save democracy by obscuring a democratic election

I dont even like Trump but these hardcore anti-trump people make me sympathize with him more and more.

>>342503

Obama has a really good PR team, honestly.

Trump cannot win, with all the media and pundits tainting his image every day. He will end up like Berlusconi.

Only later, if you're smart, you will start thinking that something big needs to be changed if you don't want to be railroaded like this again.

>>341773

>>341776

>>341781

Do you think if a wall was built, it would actually help stop drug trafficking etc?

I'm not american so I don't know much about it

>>342563

It'd (slightly) cut down on the amount coming in reducing the supply but do jack shit overall to "help" the situation. Instead, you'd have increased costs (wouldn't cut the supply that much, but dealers would take advantage of it), addicts going towards cheaper, but more dangerous and profitable alternatives and an increase in deaths due to drug users having a harder time finding good quality drugs. The heroin problem in New Hampshire and a lot of other states is because the government went after doctors over-prescribing painkillers so people who liked opiates looked to the black market to get their high and ended up going to heroin because it's cheap. Because the purity varies greatly from batch to batch lots of people overdose from getting an unusually potent batch or slowly damage their bodies because of all the additives (not the heroin itself). Wouldn't have had that problem if they left people alone and let them do relatively safe pharmaceutical opiates instead. But hey, we're talking about government here. If you thought the problems we created sucked, just wait till you hear out "solutions".

>>342563

Honestly, no. A wall isn't necessary. Strict border control should be enough. As good as our border security is, I do find it suspicious that the flow of drugs is not stopped, but remains steady. It's even growing in many places.

I'm thinking there's a good amount of quid pro quo going on, between dealers & government officials. Money & power makes people greedy. No wall will change this.

>>342575

>The heroin problem in New Hampshire and a lot of other states is because the government went after doctors over-prescribing painkillers so people who liked opiates looked to the black market to get their high and ended up going to heroin because it's cheap.

Completely true. I worked in the healthcare field when these bills went into effect(to curb prescriptions). I was also on Methadone at that time. So I saw it working on both ends.

At least, as you mention, with over the counter drugs they were measured & you knew what you were getting. With heroin it can't be measured because potency differs. A lot of people are dying, now. It's really tragic.

Radical SJW commies: their policies are ruining society and when hard working people have had enough and vote for a true logical conservative they go out crying, kicking and screaming like a baby with a bad temper tantrum.

Just goes to show we have babies like this currently in the White House. No wonder everything is so dirty these days.

>>342578

>Strict border control should be enough

It should be enough. The fact is we no longer have any border security. Obama has used executive orders to mandate complete changes to border security. Ask the border patrol. They get FIRED for doing their job now. If they deport a criminal, they will be stripped of their job. There is no more 'border security' anymore.

Obama’s Record Of Dismantling Immigration Enforcement:

http://www.fairus.org/publications/president-obama-s-record-of-dismantling-immigration-enforcement

>>342594

>which is it

Whatever ends up happening. No one can predict the future.

>The entire Establishment BTFO

>Not knowing the corporate is the establishment

This is why it's happening.

>>342613

>God can

It's just like Bush saying God works through him, Trump is a hypocrite. Nothing about him screams "Christian values".

>>342613

>Short of clear guidance from Him however, we're forced to resort to other means, a form a hypothesis based on the past and the present, and then predict based on that.

The same rationale as Muslim jihadists.

And I'm Christian, btw.

>>342627

Meh. I'm not voting for him because of muh_Christian_values. He's not Jesus Christ haha. Jesus' kingdom isn't of this world, as He Himself plainly stated.

Trump however, a) will win w/o my vote, and b) is by far the best choice for America atm imo.

>>342629

>>Short of clear guidance from Him however, we're forced to resort to other means, a form a hypothesis based on the past and the present, and then predict based on that.

>The same rationale as Muslim jihadists.

Silly anon, that's not how you spell Scientist.

>And I'm Christian, btw.

Is that relevant?

>>342633

>I'm not voting for him because of muh_Christian_values

Then why even post >>342613

>Is that relevant?

You tell me. You brought it up.

>>342652

Apparently you don't even know what you're talking about.

>Trump is represented by God

>By God I didn't mean Christianity

What faith were you reference in >>342613 then, anon?

>>342659

Lol, your posts keep getting weirder & weirder. Let's keep this going.

>You plainly have cognitive dissonance going on atm friend.

How so, anon?

>If you care to make some comment that isn't intended as an attack on me personally

I'm not attacking you. Just commenting on your thoughts, specifically.

You should realize you're supporting a candidate who is the system, the establishment. He's embodies what's brought this nation downhill. You're fighting to represent someone who would literally shit on you, given the chance.

To think he cares about you in any way, is a clear mistake.

>I said God

And the only God Trump cares about, is Capitalism.

>freedom of speech is important, unless you're criticizing me

>protesting is a right, unless you're protesting something i like

>violence is the worst thing in the world, unless it's being done to stop dangerous ideas that conflict with my indoctrination

Hey trumpkids, back to reddit with all the other SJWs. You're exactly the same.

>>342606

What's the largest group in America, those for OR against the establishment?

You'd be crazy to believe that the system can be destroyed through the tools intended to perpetuate it.

>>341303

>mass chimpout in dc

>Vladimir and dmitri begin annexing things while washington is destabilized

>the sjws completely demolish dc

>the United soviet states of russia are reborn, starting with a new 50

>all because the liberals cant handle not gettinf what they want