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 No.342180

An elite panel of scientists and bioethicists offered guarded approval Wednesday of a novel form of genetic engineering that could prevent congenital diseases but would result in babies with genetic material from three parents.

The committee, which was convened last year at the request of the Food and Drug Administration, concluded that it is ethically permissible to “go forward, but with caution” with mitochondrial replacement techniques (MRT), said the chairman, Jeffrey Kahn, a bioethicist at Johns Hopkins ­University.

But the advisory panel’s conclusions have slammed into a congressional ban: The omnibus fiscal 2016 budget bill passed by Congress late last year contained language prohibiting the government from using any funds to handle applications for experiments that genetically alter human embryos.

Thus the green light from the scientists and ethicists won't translate anytime soon into clinical applications that could potentially help families that want healthy babies, said Shoukhrat Mitalipov, a pioneer of the new technique at Oregon Health & Science University in Portland, Ore.

“It seems like the FDA is disabled in this case by Congress," Mitalipov said. “At this point we’re still not clear how to proceed."

The FDA released a statement Wednesday saying it will carefully review the report from the advisory committee, but added that the congressional ban prohibits the agency from reviewing applications "in which a human embryo is intentionally created or modified to include a heritable genetic modification. As such, human subject research utilizing genetic modification of embryos for the prevention of transmission of mitochondrial disease cannot be performed in the United States in FY 2016."

MRT should be used rarely, with extreme care and with abundant government oversight, and it initially should be applied only to male embryos, the advisory panel said.

The report comes at a time of dazzling advances in genetic engineering and a commensurate struggle to understand the ethics of “playing God,” a phrase uttered twice Wednesday by committee member R. Alta Charo, a professor of law and bioethics at the University of Wisconsin.

Two months ago, scientists from around the globe gathered in the same building to hash out guidelines for the use of another revolutionary technique, known as CRISPR, which can be used to efficiently edit nuclear DNA genes. Earlier this week,

British officials approved publicly funded research that will use CRISPR to study the development of early-stage human embryos, but the embryos will not be implanted in women.

The FDA last year asked the Institute of Medicine, now part of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine, to review the ethical implications of MRT because it would result in what has been loosely referred to as “three-parent babies.” British officials have already approved investigatory experiments involving the technique.

[One year ago, the UK voted yes on 'three-parent' babies]

Nuclear DNA is by far the more significant form of genetic material for determining most human characteristics. As the committee put it, “While mtDNA plays a central role in genetic ancestry, traits that are carried in nDNA are those that in the public understanding constitute the core of genetic relatedness in terms of physical and behavioral characteristics as well as most forms of disease.”

As a result, modifying mtDNA “is meaningfully different.”

But panel members said that they took the philosophical issues seriously, noting that someone with genetic material from two different maternal bloodlines would potentially have to wrestle with questions about identity, kinship and ancestry.

They also countenanced the possibility that people would want to use this new technique to create babies that are enhanced in some way intellectually or physically. They said that is not a major concern at the moment because the feasibility of such enhancements remains speculative.

RACE DOES NOT EXIST

" But ancestry based on genes does' "

https://archive.is/5iII1

 No.342199

we wuz africans n shiet


 No.342209

China has no such ethical compunctions nor spiritual moral compass. The researchers will merely tap into their work for study.


 No.342228

>>342199

>>342209

until all genetics is banned by the SJW committee

remember canadas oil province making a feminist committee and funding it with 1.6 million of the provinces budget?


 No.342273

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 No.342280

File: 1458269601149.jpg (17.1 KB, 181x255, 181:255, for what purpose.jpg)

>>342180

The out-of-Africa theory was disproved months ago.

>OHSU

Fuck my state, why are my tax dollars being used for this kind of research?


 No.342291

>>342280

sauce?


 No.342298

>>342291

http://archive.is/4iZBG

It was posted here a few months ago, but the archive is 2 years old and this study is from 2012… So I correct my original statement, it was disproved years ago.


 No.342401

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>>342298

Depends whether or not the other "near human" groups that bred with humans are considered significant contributors to modern humans… that could add a million years to the timeframe of genetic distance. I will look at the full text of your link though.


 No.342411


 No.342470

at this point in time, this is really science on steroids. i believe it is Minnesota that requires blood tests for couples who want to marry and possibly procreate. it would be nice to pin that practice against the "3 parent" theory. all of this just emphasizes the importance of genetic diversity.


 No.342507

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>3 parents


 No.342521

>>342280

it wasnt, stop spewing that nonsense


 No.342524

File: 1458292433484.gif (2.86 MB, 387x580, 387:580, BLART PLAR'GTH MA'GOTH.gif)

hello this is /x/

don't be doing with this.

It's stated in absolutely every single religious text that when fuckers with genes manipulated to make them more than human exist as a normal thing, it's a really bad thing.

Not just as a "ooh spooky magical world-ending scenario because God said so", but also because of the various implications behind it.

>Pushing people to get genetically enhanced children so they don't have to deal with shit like Harlequin Itchyosis or Trisomy 13.

>Genetically enhanced people are either segregated or integrated into society; one produces hatred that isn't mitigated by being of the same species, the other creates tragedies by the implicit incompatibility between a genetically enhanced person and a normal one.

>Eventual bottleneck or depopulation of first world societies if there's an inherent problem with enhanced genetic material and reproduction.

On the fringe side

>With no societal trait that can accept three parents, other than polygamists, a third parent is "chosen". Who or what this DNA comes from is most likely going to be a mystery.


 No.342531

What is ethically wrong with choosing the eye color or skin color of your child?

I'm not not seeing it. Why shouldn't we continue to evolve and become stronger and smarter?


 No.342746

>>342470

>genetic diversity

no

overcoming diseases that would ultimately lead to a sickly people is an achievement of medicine and has fudge all to do with genetic diversity

some diversity is good

out breeding is generally not needed unless the population is in a spiral of inbreeding and only has "bad" copies of many necessary genes

read about genetic purging

self pollinating plants that become isolated on islands routinely thrive only because of this logical outcome of inbreeding and survival


 No.342747

>>342470

>genetic diversity

no

overcoming diseases that would ultimately lead to a sickly people is an achievement of medicine and has fudge all to do with genetic diversity

some diversity is good

out breeding is generally not needed unless the population is in a spiral of inbreeding and only has "bad" copies of many necessary genes

read about genetic purging

self pollinating plants that become isolated on islands routinely thrive only because of this logical outcome of inbreeding and survival


 No.342748

>>342470

>genetic diversity

no

overcoming diseases that would ultimately lead to a sickly people is an achievement of medicine and has fudge all to do with genetic diversity

some diversity is good

out breeding is generally not needed unless the population is in a spiral of inbreeding and only has "bad" copies of many necessary genes

read about genetic purging

self pollinating plants that become isolated on islands routinely thrive only because of this logical outcome of inbreeding and survival


 No.342935

>>342746

well, i wouldn't introduce plant coding into an article designed to address complex human life, thats a little silly.

what is the world's leading killer right now? malaria? theres your target. get busy on your pig/chimp control group & prove some results.

and yes, the gene-pool has everything to do with it. that is precisely why infants/children die during the immunizing process or develop some other problem. but nobody cared enough to check. so it became a crap-shoot with human life. yeah, thats medicine, certainly some1 can afford it.


 No.343676

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>>342531

bcuz youz playin god son. you ain't god. dat be jesus, praise his name.


 No.344125

>>343679

if you're have a roof you're ungodly, God intended you to get rained and snowed on :^)


 No.344523

soon you'll be able to have 3 fathers


 No.344551

File: 1458451111596.png (1.19 MB, 665x1182, 665:1182, Absolutely Solid.png)

>congress bans remains

You're not talking about BIG BOSS are you?


 No.344563

>>343676

Shut up christfag

>>342531

Because one's kids, whom fucked to create, should resemble something of themselves. Something that shows that yeah, they're bearers of your genetic legacy. There's something a little unhealthy about making your kids the way that you want that kid to be, controlling every aspect of their lives, including their biology. It's not right, like it's one thing if it's for their health or intelligence or just to make sure that you don't end up with a dumpy potatohead for the rest of your life.

but modifying your kid's eyes and hair without the kid's concent, it's like a circumcision- just a bit too out-reaching. If the kid wants to modify him or herself, then let them. It's their body.


 No.345157

>>344523

Blacks will be 3x as sad now




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