No.342225
Donald Trump would lose handily to Hillary Clinton in a general election for one key reason, former Bush 43 aide Tony Fratto said Thursday.
"In the very best of years, when you have a unified GOP, Republicans have an electoral disadvantage relative to the Democratic candidate; that's pretty clear," Fratto told CNBC's "Squawk Box."
"Trump is not going to bring unity to the party. If it's a contested convention, and it's someone else, that's not going to resolve unity either. So, [with] a divided GOP and a fairly unified Democratic candidate, I don't think this is a hard question," said Fratto, the former deputy White House press secretary and now managing director at consulting firm Hamilton Place Strategies.
Clinton notched victories in Ohio and Florida on Tuesday, two key swing states. Trump won the Florida GOP primary, but lost in Ohio to the state's governor, John Kasich.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/17/strategist-clintontrump-race-wouldnt-even-be-close.html
No.342231
>>342225
>Before Trump
>GOP Dying
>Now Trump
>GOP bringing in votes like no tomorrow
Divided my ass, unless he means divided amongst establishment and voters.
No.342236
Nice attempt to make us doubt ourselves Goldstien. Trump 2016!
No.342240
Democrats aren't unified under Hillary though, it's still a pretty good split between her and Bernie. Once Bernie loses, I'm guessing anywhere between 25-50% of his supporters will defect to Trump's side or not vote at all. Most of the independents will vote for trump as well. As for the GOP, it probably won't fracture as bad as the media says it will. Right now the establishment is losing their shit, but as Trump wins more states, the more they will accept that it's all ogre and they'll have to accept Trump.
We havent't even seen Trump and Hillary one-on-one yet, and when they are up against each other Trump will likely curbstump Hillary's campaign so hard she won't even want to be alive anymore.
No.342241
>>342225
you can't use old data for this election. a huge chunk of Trump's support comes from those who wouldn't even vote otherwise. gauging this election based on past elections would be like gauging the alcohol content of of your whiskey based on it's alcohol content before you spiked it with everclear.
No.342242
>>342240
> Democrats aren't unified under Hillary though, it's still a pretty good split between her and Bernie.
Yeah I wouldn't take this strategist seriously, he clearly doesn't understand just how divided Democrats are on Shillary and Bernie.
No.342245
every other news article
>ahahahaha Trump doesn't stand a chance
and every other
>d-don't vote for Trump, he is literally Hitler
>claiming Ted "I'm Jesus and kill all the gays" Cruz has any better chance
No.342249
I saw the numbers, trump does poorly with niggers, spics and white women. Times have changed, you can no longer just depend on the white male vote and many of them are fucking cucks, This country is completely fucking pozzed as fuck. We are all victims of multiculturalism. I do want Trump to win but if he does not I can't wait till it all burns to the ground. In b4 "nice post moshe" "hows the weather in israel"
No.342250
>>342231
Literally millions of new voters are joining the GOP this year–just so they can vote Trump.
No.342253
>>342250
>just so they can vote for Trump
sauce? or is that speculation?
No.342254
>Se-See Guys! Trump wont win! Listen to the headlines p-please!
No.342256
>>342253
>what is the Internet, Mommy?
No.342258
>>342225
>muh divided GOP
Wat. It's still early in the elections and Trump has already completely obliterated all of his competition in the Republican party. The Democrats are still completely fractured between Killary and Glassberg, with a bunch of his supporters either already defecting to Trump or promising to if Glassberg becomes completely hopeless.
Even with the insane opposition that Trump faces he has come out time and time again as supreme, and that's solely because of not only the insane amount of support he's getting from the Republicans and Independents but also from the tidal wave of people registering to vote for the first time ever solely to vote for Trump. People like me.
Captain Shithead is full of fucking shit, every simulation they've done shows him completely destroying her. If I remember correctly he only has like a 4 percent chance of losing to her. Fuckers are desperately trying to meme their delusions into reality before we cross the real event horizon
Not to mention that even though the Dems hold key areas the Republicans have the most registered voters
No.342264
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>>342258
>>342258
>hmm… let's just check the current distribution of the GOP delegates*
No.342267
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No.342268
>>342256
>The internet is a series of tubes, lil Johnny.
No.342271
>>342225
>In the very best of years, when you have a unified GOP, Republicans have an electoral disadvantage relative to the Democratic candidate
No.342274
>>342268
I won't spoonfeed you, you lazy fuck. All the raw data is freely available as of this past Tuesday, do you're own homework.
No.342276
>>342271
>>342271
Eh, Trump himself said that Republicans have a structural disadvantage to Democrats to getting elected. The author was merely referring to this.
Superdelegates is one such obstacle.
No.342277
>>342276
>Trump himself
Is Trump some new peer-reviewed academic journal in political science I haven't heard of? Because, if not, then I'm still, well, pic related….
No.342281
>>342253
I registered for the first time so I could vote trump
No.342283
>>342277
eh, his IQ is 157. you do the math faggot.
No.342284
>>342281
>[props internally]*
No.342285
>>342283
no, I've done the math, and considering Republican electoral dominance at the Presidential level since Eisenhower, I'm calling bullshit, Cleetus.
No.342286
The GOP is more than willing to lose to Hillary Clinton because after all, its not about Democrat vs. Republican its about Establishment vs. Populists.
Hillary and Ted are Establishment, Trump and Bernie are Populists.
No.342288
>>342274
Joke discarded. Geez, man. Not everything has to be so serious.
No.342292
>>342286
Fortunately, Trump appears to be handing the GOP it's fucking walking papers, using it's own techniques against them heh.
No.342293
>Clinton/Trump
>implying a difference between them
No.342294
>>342288
>dub dubs
OK, I defer bcaz of you're digits.
:D
No.342295
>>342293
. . .
>anon's sense of reality
No.342296
>>342281
I Just lost my Voting Virgin card a few days ago. Ave Trump brother.
No.342297
>>342294
Cute pic, broseph. I'm glad you finally agree with me. You da best. :D
No.342303
>>342225
Duh. Every poll of a Clinton v. Trump matchup has Clinton winning the popular vote by a comfortable margin and the EC vote by a significant margin. She's going to capture all of the populous coastal blue states and a number of swing states. She'll probably get Ohio, New Mexico, and maybe Florida. Trump will have to get 7 or 8 out of every 10 white male voters to beat Clinton, and that's not likely to happen.
Of course, that's assuming the party even lets him get the nomination. The Republican establishment hates Trump. For lots of reasons, but one of which is that they know he can't beat Clinton, and they're tearing their hair out about being out of the White House for another 4 years minimum. No Republican wants for the GOP to have been out of the White House from 2009 to 2024.
No.342305
>>342225
"This is finally the end of Donald Trump's campaign" -Increasingly nervous man says for the seventh time today
No.342306
>>342274
"I won't spoonfeed you!" is basically code for "I have no sources or credibility and just made this shit up."
inb4 "lol u mad!"
No.342320
>>342225
> fairly unified Democratic candidate
Nobody wants shillary in office, and most dems are just going to stay home and not vote.
No.342323
>>342306
No, I meant precisely what I said. If you can't find it out for you'reself or don't care to heh then fuck off.
No.342361
>>342225
>Y-you won't win anyways so don't even try okay? Please? Please for the love of… We're scared we won't be able to steal from you retards anymore don't do this to us!
No.342363
>>342225
>Y-you won't win anyways so don't even try okay? Please? Please for the love of… We're scared we won't be able to steal from you retards anymore don't do this to us!
No.342365
>>342225
It honestly doesn't matter. The GOP is already dead. Either Trump wins and his nationalist following takes another step to becoming the new mainstream right, or Hillary wins and the plutocracy continues feeding the nationalists with the disillusioned.
The real significance of this election is the legitimization of a new demographic which every politician on the right is going to want to secure in four or eight years.
No.342371
>trump still dominating the polls
>b-b-but hillary will win for sure guys
From the looks of it the only way she'd win is if the electoral college just up and say, "Fuck the voters" again like they didn't with Lil' Bush's first election.
No.342373
>Establishment insiders are claiming that outsiders can never win and shouldn't bother trying.
THIS
ISN'T
NEWS.
No.342374
>>342253
>>342281
I changed from Libertarian to Republican to vote in the primary for Paul, and so I can hound the house and senate primary candidates to says they'll introduce a bill to repeal the NFA and GCA if elected so I'm on the increase.
I'll vote for Trump in the general purely for liberal tears
No.342376
No.342378
>>342371
Trump is dominating GOP primary polls.
Clinton almost always beats Trump in hypothetical head to head polls.
Oddly enough, Rubio was the only one who would have beat Hillary in a head to head.
While Sanders would beat all Republican candidates by wide margins according to the polls.
Its like both parties are determined to select their weakest candidates.
No.342381
>>342225
About that. No.
http://archive.is/faolQ
>Political Science Professor: Odds Of President Trump Range BETWEEN 97% AND 99%
http://primarymodel.com/
>87%-99% Certain Trump Will Be President
No.342385
>Trump has a 1% lead.
>Margin of Error +/-2.3%
No.342386
>>342385
>Ignoring the articles linked.
No.342389
Hmm. I wonder what would happen if Sanders and Trump both ran as independents?
No.342390
>>342389
Pretty sure Sanders started as an independent, no?
No.342392
>>342389
Trump has already said this week if the GOP turns him out, he'll just go back to his normal life. So no.
No.342394
None of this matters to me. Trump has already done more good in this election season than I could have possibly dreamed of a year ago. If he actually does win, all of my cynicism regarding the West and America in particular will have to be completely rethought. This election cycle changes nothing, other than it lets me know that there are 10's of millions of others out there that think like me. It has been glorious.
No.342397
>>342390
Yes. He switched to Dem. in order to run for president.
>>342392
Trump threatened a third party run if he didn't get the nom. in one of the early debates. (Or at least he wouldn't pledge not to.)
No.342403
>>342397
Yeah, that was really early on, and before he showed factually the American people favored his position with their votes. I'll vote for him no matter what party we runs under at this point. Even if he backs out entirely, I'll still write him in during the general.
No.342404
>>342403
>what party he runs under*
No.342407
>>342403
>Even if he backs out entirely, I'll still write him in during the general.
This.
No.342413
No.342422
Hypothetically speaking, if Clinton does win, what's the worst that can happen?
No.342426
>>342422
another 4-8 years of Obama basically, with a side of political scandal and just a dash of executive orders.
No.342429
>>342225
>Them not realising that 35% of democrats will vote Trump or Johnson, or just not go
No.342430
The only way Trump would lose to Hillary is if the GOP continue to throw their temper tantrum and keep trying to sabotage the race. They're not even trying to be discrete in how they want to lose to Hillary.
No.342433
>>342389
Honestly I think they fear that so they want to have Trump get the Republican Nom so they can have Romney take up the cucks
I hope in that situation Sandkike runs so then you see a 35% Trump 28% Clinton 22% Sanders 13% Romney 1% other
No.342435
>>342426
shit, that's more like a BEST case scenario, than a worst.
we're already on track for societal collapse. a trump election would only slow it. a shrillary election would throw it into overdrive.
No.342436
>>342435
>When Best case is repeating the actions of the worst President
I can't imagine the worst case
No.342437
>>342435
I'd rather not have a collapsed society when it comes time to shoo away the gubment flies. You know, since other countries would immediately catch on and maybe even invade/destroy/rebuild america with no survivors
No.342438
>>342436
let's also remember that either bernie or shrillary doing nothing more than repeating obama's legacy would be against their stated goals.
they're not just gonna maintain the dem status quo, they are going to double and triple down on entitlements, social justice, feminism, and the baby boomer mentality.
No.342440
>>342437
yea, I'd like a chance to afford a few guns and a nice out of the way plot of land before the gran chimpout goes down and this country exposes it's belly to every terrorist state on earth.
No.342444
>>342437
Mate honestly us Aus people will probably Try and take Oregon or something
We're sick of this Kike PM and its only been a few months
No.342450
>>342437
In all honesty, I would mortgage the next 100 years in exchange for a vassal sovereign white state carved out of the ashes of the failed multicult state of America, to China, or Russia. Sort of like the lease of Hong Kong to the UK, only this would probably involve heavy tributes of wealth and IP. I wouldn't be free, but my great great great great grand children would be… And we would be free from non white (except Chinese or Russian) leeches…
By the time the lease is up we would be o the verge of colonizing space, with the ability to leave the great mud masses behind.
No.342452
>>342422
Clinton's a hard-core gun control advocate, so she'll push for that.
We'd probably get involved in at least one small war, because she'd want to prove that "muh wimminz got the ballz 2 b commander-in-chief!" I hope she'd be smart enough not to get us involved in a proxy war with Russia, so maybe not Syria.
She's in bed with the financial services industry, so you can expect no meaningful regulation of Wall Street. She'd probably try to throw some relief to the middle class and the poor, but it's hard to say what form that might take, since it will depend on what she can negotiate with Congress.
A lot of her general policy would be a continuation of Obama's and Bush's. Expect more NSA surveillance, more drone assassinations, and the like. She would support weakening/backdooring encryption. She would not support marijuana decriminalization. She's a big booster for the wage gap myth, so she would probably try to push some kind of "historic" legislation to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Obama has already started us down that road by requiring large companies to provide wage and salary information by gender.
You can expect that "immigration reform" would be part of her plans. There's no way that doesn't make sense for a Democrat. Something like 75% of Hispanics vote Democrat. Amnesty and a path to citizenship for large numbers of Hispanics could make Arizona and even Texas bluer.
Clinton's a moderate, not because she sees value in compromise, but because outside of a couple of issues, she really has no ideology, only personal ambition. So I wouldn't expect the direction of the country to change drastically if she were elected, especially if she can't work with Congress more effectively than Obama. I guess whether you regard that as a bad thing depends on what you think about the direction of the country.
Old folks think the country is rapidly going to hell in a handbasket, but they always think that, in every generation. As for me, I think the U.S. is in decline, but it's a slow decline. I think the U.S. will continue to decline slowly under Clinton.
No.342453
>>342450
I added to many greats… I was going to say I would be willing to sign a 200 year vassal contract, but I revised it to 100 year to match the Hong Kong lease.
No.342464
>>342452
So essentially just the same shit as obama. Not that bad all things considered, and the growing predisposition towards big government that's festering in the youth.
No.342467
>>342464
>same shit as Obama
>not that bad
No.342469
>>342464
>Obama
>Not that bad
You know right that no one has even come close to the debt Obongo's racked up
No.342481
>>342469
>You know right that no one has even come close to the debt Obongo's racked up
>Obongo
That's a funny way to spell Congress. You may not know this, but the president does not get to create a budget all by his lonesome. He can propose a budget to Congress, but they have to pass it.
No.342504
>>342256
>what is providing my own sauce for my assertations?
No.342506
Do you think there will be any nation that Trump won't piss off?
No.342508
>>342506
Who gives a fuck. The whole world hates America anyways. Hell, I am American myself and I can barely stand it.
No.342523
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
a hillary presidency is a feminazi presidency.
No.342530
>>342481
>>342481
The House (the most fucked circus of political ideologies under one roof) has the power of the purse; no president has the power to spend money indiscriminately except what was given to his Alphabet Soup Agencies.
Just like a corporation with a Board of Directors–those are the major shareholders and wouldn't just give money to a CEO to do whatever.
Lrn2organize
No.342546
>>342293
Whoa, looks like I found the only logical anon in this whole shit fest of a website.
No.342695
>>342306
>>342323
It has always been the culture of the chans that you get your own background knowledge. "lurk moar" so if it is code for that, it doesn't matter. Find out for yourself.
No.342730
>>342504
>what are 3 million new GOP voters from previous primary cycles
No.342731
>>342303
If Trump doesn't have a chance at beating Clinton than either does Rubio of Cruz.
>Every poll should Clinton beating Trump
>Every poll shows the corporate candidate winning
I wouldn't trust the polls if I were you.
No.342733
You know what just hit me? All of this vitrial of Trump getting elected really reminds me of the same shit that happened with Obama's election. Trump gets KKK endorsement "OH NOES", Obama gets the CPUSA "lol your just a racist". All the shit we seeing reminds me of how when people voiced concerns about Obama not being legit to lead and such. They were mocked and dismissed. The only difference is that giving obama shit got you called a racist and led to the "Thanks Obama meme" and similar means of dismissal. A large chunk of which was because the MSM and social media was behind him. Trump is the opposite of that, but he will be shit on because he doesn't have the MSM/social media carrying water for him. Hell even down to the Drumpf vs. Obummer thing.
No.342735
>>342225
>former Bush 43 aid
No.342736
>>342733
Trump is the same as Obama.
They (the big they) have figured out that the people don't trust politicians or the rich any more, so as long as they run an "outsider" the masses will vote for him, when he gets into office it'll be business as usual (remember how Obama was basically Bush III or Reagan IV despite HOPE and CHANGE).
Eight years ago it was Obama, now it's Trump. It's all just a game.
No.342738
>>342736
>Trump is the same as Obama.
. . .
No.342740
>>342738
Too young to remember, naive, or just not American? It's how things work over here, elections are a sham.
It's foolish to put your trust in any state official. Anyone allowed to seriously run for POTUS has been vetted and will play ball with the elites.
No.342752
>muh pessimism
this is just pathetic. The lot of you keep talking like trumps a politician, he's not. That's why he's gaining so much support and says the shit he says. He has absolutely no reason to play their game so he doesn't.
Obummer was a career politician when he ran, the fucker had no intention of changing anything, he won because of novelty. Hillary might have won if republicans didn't make up the majority of voters and the majority of republicans didn't want trump. The media doesn't want him though, they want the first woman so they can dump page after page of clickbait, they already decided they hated trump so there's no way to give him positive press. They dug a financial grave with it so they'd have to resort to lying in order to keep pumping out stories.
If they don't have him assassinated he will win. That's the way things are moving.
No.342845
>>342381
Nice.
Sounds like Trump is pretty much guaranteed the win.
But dont get too confident and lazy people. Thats for the dumbocraps.
Remember to keep up with your high energy.
No.342848
>>342736
>Eight years ago it was Obama, now it's Trump. It's all just a game.
I dont remember the MSM colluding to attack Obongo.
No.342851
>>342225
>Donald Trump would lose handily to Hillary Clinton
No.342891
There are a lot more people who support Bernie aside from the cucked college kids. Many working class democrat families support Bernie over Hillary. When Hillary gets the nomination, democratic voter turnout is going to plummit.
When Trump gets the nomination, republican voter turnout will skyrocket. Trump will even snag a lot of democrats from Hillary, him being a populist.
No.342950
>>342848
1. So you're too young to remember?
2. What does that have to do with anything? They're pretending to "attack" Drumpf too.
You Americans and your circus.You know the leaders arent your friends right?
No.342951
>>342945
>memespouting trumpcuck tells others to go back to reddit
No.342971
>>342736
Obummer was a politician you retarded buttmonkey
He was a fresh Illinois senator who rode on "community organizing" which really means "getting niggers to chimp out so that tired whites acquiesce to their retarded demands"
He didn't give up on his bread and butter strategy while he was president, that's for sure
No.342977
>>342303
>>342376
>nailed it
You can always tell when someone is a middle class teenager/college student
Working class people in Ohio and Pennsylvania are not going to vote Hillary this time around you worthless morons
No.342982
>>342253
I switched from independent to Republican so I could vote for him.
No.342988
Bullshit, he'd cream Hillary and all you libtards know it. Just another cucked BS report from despot cucks.
No.342996
>>342225
Nice shill meme! I see it was squeezed fresh out the ass of the Jewish liar's press. Wasn't it Republican strategists that came up with the inane idea that the party needed to appeal to Mexicans and push amnesty to win the current election? Meanwhile, actual political scientists are predicting a Trump win with a high degree of certainty. The theme of this election has been anti-establishment outsider candidates, and the faux-anti establishment candidate on the cuck side just isn't going to make it. Looks like you will just have to deal with an America made great again.
No.343006
No.343013
>>342250
>Trump hijacked 3 million votes
>g-guys dont vote for trump he cant win
WEW WEW
WHOA WHOA
THESE FUCKING JEWS
HAVE GOT TO GO
No.343015
>>342225
>"Trump is not going to bring unity to the party. If it's a contested convention, and it's someone else, that's not going to resolve unity either. So, [with] a divided GOP and a fairly unified Democratic candidate
The 45% supporting Sanders would very strongly disagree about this supposed "unity". The ones who didn't hate Hillary before the primaries have grown to hate her over the last few months due to her unending dirty tricks and her desperate attempts to distract people from class issues by crying "sexist!!" every time Bernie objects.
Typical of Bush buttbuddies that they'd rather see President Hillary then acknowledge Trump.
No.343016
>>342951
>implying 95% of reddit doesn't support Bernie Sandberg
go back home little welfare queen
No.343019
>>342250
And that's exactly what the Republican establishment is afraid of. 3 million new people who won't blindly vote for anyone named "Bush". They'd rather see Hillary win then give up control of their party.
No.343024
>>342438
Yes, because welfare is evil and keeps those poor oppressed businesses down. The main problem in America is big business can't succeed. Lower taxes for businesses and everyone will be rich. Trickle down economics works, if only companies could make a profit in Americas current economic climate.
No.343026
>>343024
Trickle down economics is about cutting personal income taxes on the rich.
They never tried cutting business taxes instead.
No.343030
>>342891
>not naming it when I'm president
No.343031
>>342225
"Trump's not even a serious candidate. He doesn't even have a chance."
t. Man who's growing increasingly paranoid.
No.343035
File: 1458337180808.jpg (178.72 KB, 900x755, 180:151, MAD-Magazine-Trump-Makeup_….jpg)
Donald Trump
SSN: 086-38-5955
DOB: 06/14/1946
Phone Number: 212-832-2000
Cell/Mobile Phone Number: (917) 756-8000
No.343036
>>343035
Imagine if this same picture featured Obama instead.
No.343038
>>343035
>implying Trump doesn't have like a dozen phones
>implying he hasn't already changed those numbers
>implying anyone can steal the identity of someone that famous
nice try anomalous
No.343039
>>343036
Somewhere, a black lives matter protestor shat themselves just sensing the disturbance in the progressi-force as everyone here thought of that.
No.343056
>>343035
>>343036
I googled it, and go figure, in a dozen "Celebs without makeup" articles, only 3 people they mock are black.
On the other hand, it's pretty funny stuff, pic related.
Also, couldn't find Trump on there.
http://www.madmagazine.com/tags/celebrities-without-their-makeup
No.343065
>>342320
i like how every single time she tries to get cute or funny, her programing starts going haywire.