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No.342448
Looks like the little guy can teach a global fast food conglomerate a thing or two about running a restaurant
https://archive.is/p5VXb
>Eatsa, the mostly automated healthy, fast food bowl shop based in San Francisco, has inspired the CEO of Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s to rethink the traditional workforce—by replacing all humans with robots.
>"I want to try it," CEO Andy Puzder told Business Insider. "We could have a restaurant that's focused on all-natural products and is much like an Eatsa, where you order on a kiosk, you pay with a credit or debit card, your order pops up, and you never see a person."
>The move could help the fast food giant cope with rising minimum wages across the country.
>"With government driving up the cost of labor, it's driving down the number of jobs," he says, predicting the automation trend will likely extend beyond the restaurant industry. "You're going to see automation not just in airports and grocery stores, but in restaurants."
>The outspoken critic of raising the minimum wage has said it could lead to reduced employment opportunities across the board and stagnated growth for his industry.
>If the minimum wage is raised, argues Puzder, more companies like CKE foods which owns Hardee’s and Carl’s Jr will look to automate faster— which could further decimate jobs.
>"If you're making labor more expensive, and automation less expensive — this is not rocket science," says Puzder.
>The CEO acknowledges that it may be some time before Carl’s Jr is people-free as it would take a pretty sophisticated machine to handle all the nuances of their kitchen. Even at Eatsa, while the ordering process is 100 devoid of any pesky human interaction, live workers behind the scenes still assemble bowls.
>But Puzder says he sees automation fulfilling “rote tasks like grilling a burger or taking an order”—areas in which a robot would probably be more precise than a human.
>And while older customers may take some time to adapt to interacting with a faceless platform, Puzder says the coveted millennial market actually prefers as little social interaction as possible when it comes to ordering food.
>"Millennials like not seeing people," said the CEO. "I've been inside restaurants where we've installed ordering kiosks … and I've actually seen young people waiting in line to use the kiosk where there's a person standing behind the counter, waiting on nobody."
tl;dr- Based CEO of third best fast food chain after chic-fil-a and whattaburger promises to make robowaifu burgers a reality
No.342454
The only downside of Carl's Jr is all the fucking spics that work there.
No.342455
Seems that NEETdom is the future for humanity
All humans will be NEET once the workforce is fully automated
No.342472
Well live to see the day where there are no jobs left. What will we do then? If everything is automated and food is abundant as well as supplies will we even have any sort of economy?
Will we even need a credit system? If there is enough to go around and the work to build and ship is automated it would seem like everyone just gets free everything.
No.342473
>>342466
We're making idiocracy, but we're taking the good path instead of the evil path.
No.342477
>>342472
>Well live to see the day where there are no jobs left. What will we do then?
Make new jobs.
>If everything is automated and food is abundant as well as supplies will we even have any sort of economy?
Yes.
>Will we even need a credit system?
We've never needed a credit system
>If there is enough to go around and the work to build and ship is automated it would seem like everyone just gets free everything.
In reality, someone has to repair that ship and program that robot. No one really gets anything for free, but you'll see a massive culling of the human population to remove useless waste (whether intentional via war/eugenics or unintentional via a libertarian/agorist free market is yet to be known).
No.342484
>>342477
Im saying once the infrastructure is built and self sustaining.
Robots to fix broken robots that can also fix other broken repair bots.
Everything would have screens with simple GUI's and building a building would be as simple as ordering materials and having a fleet of bots assemble it after the part are 3d printed.
Imagine a world where it was all automated. All any person would have to do is learn to use the interface for any device they were interested in.
No.342487
>>342484
It'd be a world with many giant penis-shaped buildings and towers.
No.342488
>>342477
I never understand people who think they'll be able to stick around for all of this shit. once humans are no longer the most valuable resource (in many ways this is already happening, only from the ground up) then the elites will have no need for us. the population booms of the past were important because there was so much labor that needed to be done, and could only be done by humans. when a handful of humans can operate/repair/maintain etc everything the elite need then the vast majority of us will simply be a resource drain.
this leftist "peace and tolerance" shit is hilarious. so many people are brainwashed with their venus projects or marxist this and that.. they think that all of a sudden the elites think of the human races as one big happy family, when the reality is the elites only care about themselves and their own blood. it's sad to watch history repeat itself over and over only to be finished with a big crescendo of the same exact shit, only this time it's the end game.
No.342495
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>>342488
This is why I fear automated drones.
When they exist in a way that enables a few people to control millions were in trouble.
Imagine the streets being patrolled by the equivalent of terminators and the sky always swarming with infrared equipped drones that fly in shifts and refuel themselves.
How would any human rebellion fight back?
No.342497
>>342448
>Based CEO of third best fast food chain
Lets kill jobs and then scratch our heads as to why people have no money to spend at our food place tomorrow.
The barter system needs to return.
No.342498
>>342488
>this leftist "peace and tolerance" shit is hilarious. so many people are brainwashed with their venus projects or marxist this and that.. they think that all of a sudden the elites think of the human races as one big happy family, when the reality is the elites only care about themselves and their own blood. it's sad to watch history repeat itself over and over only to be finished with a big crescendo of the same exact shit, only this time it's the end game.
They got coopted by the rich hard. They were so close with ows but should have got more agressive.
No.342500
>>342497
1.3 million people in America make minimum wage.
If we extrapolate that data, if robots replace minimum wage workers, then robots replace less than 1% of the US population.
Even if we quintuple that number, you're still only talking 2% of the US population. Because of the federal reserve's fucking with the economy that's a huge difference, but in relative economic terms, that's barely a dent when you consider how much cheaper everything becomes when automation replaces wage workers.
No.342501
>>342497
Not to mention you're probably the kind of guy who supports raising the minimum wage, which would have the exact same fucking effect on the economy.
No.342510
>>342500
Yes, because I'm sure that our glorious overlords will pass those savings on to the customer.
No.342513
>CEO of company: "I'd like to try [x] it could be really good for the company"
>dishonest news media organizations: "MOTHERFUCKING BILGERBERG GROUP PROMISES TO INSTITUTE SKYNET AND KILL WOMEN AND MINORITIES"
fuck you.
No.342514
>>342510
Those "glorious overlords" are running on a 3-5% profit margin, some even less than that. The only reason they make so much protip: most CEOs don't make as much as you think is because of economies of scale. To put it in perspective, for every 30 days that Walmart is in business, they don't make any profit until the last 1-3 days of the month.
Competition is one hell of a drug that keeps prices low. It's the reason that gas went from 50 cents a barrel to 17 cents a barrel back in the early 1900s.
No.342522
>>342501
>Not to mention you're probably the kind of guy who supports raising the minimum wage, which would have the exact same fucking effect on the economy.
Oh fuck you, I am in canada, and a sizable chunk of able bodied people are welfare queens. All this will do is drive up the taxes of the middle class since the lower class will be unable to work period. And it will also make the catch 22 barrier for experience needed even higher. Good luck getting work when your job can be outsourced to a machine or a foriegn country. I sure hate not being able to make decent money and not being taxed to death. And I really hate trying to live independently and want to be forced to have to rely on the goverment at the cost of being forced to owe them.
>>342514
Walmarts are going out of buisness across america because they bit more than they could chew. They pay too low, even if you work there for a while (no competitive wages) they have too much of a focus on part timers (most places do, to prevent raises and benefits) and they really are not a great place to buy things as a jack of all trades store. They should have learned from zellers in canada, they pulled this crap and went out of buisness about 7-9 years ago. Hudsons bay is a joke now and bankrupt. If they want to help, they need to promote meritocracy and competitive work enviroments for pay and raises. And maybe reduce managment role numbers. I have seen way too many managers be paid dead weight when it could be going to a full time employee. and even you can admit that we need some more protectionism in our markets that favour domestic goods over foriegn to make more manufacturing jobs.
No.342605
>>342495
Kill the elites, destroy the servers controlling the terminators.
No.342638
Blame it on $15 an hour. The McDonald's around where I go to school has no cashiers, only touch screens and 1 person to facilitate. This is the fate they choose.
No.342639
Getting pretty close to Snow Crash now.
No.342640
>>342448
I expect the sanitary scores of these types of restaurants would skyrocket if this was carried out at all fast food dives.
No.342656
Thank god for threads like these, it really makes me want to focus on my electrical training in college so I can fix these auto-niggers instead of being replaced by one.
No.342661
No.342665
Human beings shouldn't be doing routine rote work anyway. Any job that can be automated away, ought to be automated away. This goes for some tasks where some creativity is required as well.
No.342678
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No.342682
>>342678
Sorry about your future job prospects, man. You can always suck dick in the park, though.
No.342698
>>342455 (checked)
Just like in Judge Dredd!
No.342722
>>342682
says the unemployed $15 min wage nigger
No.342745
>>342495
hack the machines.
not saying it would work, but if we are assuming rebellion happened and won then that would have been the way it happened.
No.342754
>>342448
>"With government driving up the cost of labor"
Yes, it's the government and not greedy fucking selfish assholes like this fuck, Andy Puzder. When machines make everything and the middle class has no work and therefor no capital, who is going to buy your automatic robot made shit-burgs, dipshit?
Day of the rope when?
No.342760
>>342472
Won't happen… Market forces will work against post scarcity.. Not much happens in this world without someone making a profit from it.. When producers cannot turn a profit they stop producing.
No.342767
>>342760
no sane human being would ever do all their work for free.
No.342768
>Let's just replace all our workers with robots that will save us money
>Hey why is nobody buying our products?
Gee it's almost like CEOs know nothing about economics, who is going to buy your shitty burgers when nobody has a job faggot?
No.342769
>>342768
and what about people who might not NEED a buggy whip, but would really just like to have them. FUCKING CAPITALIST MONSTERS
No.342777
This type of cycle isn't fundamentally new. There was a huge uproar with the buggy and wagon manufacturing industry trying to stop the burgeoning automobile industry in the early 20th century.
Having cars certainly hasn't slowed down the economies in the West, but obviously quite the contrary.
No.342779
>>342777
Yeah but automobiles used to be manufactured by people if you wanna see the horrors of automation take a good look at Detroit.
No.342789
What are some jobs that won't be taken by robots?
No.342791
>>342789
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>What are some jobs that won't be taken by robots?
Beggar.
Street urchin.
Crack dealer.
>>342779
If you want to see the benefits of Automation look at Japan or Korea.
If automation was a problem in itself, they would have gone in to decline like Detroit. Clearly there are other factors at play. Like powerful unions.
No.342792
>>342791
Just wait for the Crackbot9000.
No.342795
>>342791
>being a union cuck
No.342798
>customer fucks up order
>gets mad
>hits kiosk
>kiosk insurance goes up
>Carl's Jr CEO says "one day we will have a store without customers"
>???
>profit
No.342801
>>342448
>wants to replace all human workers with robots
So do I. Humans are trash.
No.342808
>>342678
The Thousand Year Rekt.
No.342811
>>342448
>>342612
These things are going to fail in one way that no one will notice until someone gets a roach in their burger.
Machines don't pay attention to bugs in the system. Literal bugs are whats going to fuck this up.
No.342816
>>342768
why does everyone assume people wil stop going to fast food places if humans arent employed their?
No.342818
>>342811
unless you seal the system and have monthly inspections to make sure nothing has breached the sealing.
No.342819
I am for this because robots won't spit in my food.
No.342820
>>342500
You forget that minimum wage is reserved for things like waiters and bartenders. You know, people who make tip money on top of minimum wage.
In most places even bottom of the barrel grunt jobs still pay *slightly* better than minimum wage if only for the fact that they need to entice people to actually fill those jobs instead of going on welfare and making the equivalent of min. wage.
Realistically robots aren't going to be replacing waiters and bartenders because people like to be waited on by a human they can chat with and look down on. More likely than not robots will be replacing the last remaining grunt work jobs that gave people just starting out a chance to build a job history.
As a result you are going to soon find a vast underclass developing consisting of people who are unemployable because they have no job experience because all of the entry level stuff has been automated. Since lower class people and the disappearing middle class have traditionally been the backbone of the economy (because upperclassfags horde their money like greedy jews) the lack of short term spending from the impoverished lower classes brings the economy to a grinding halt as fewer and fewer people buy the overpriced disposable crap that makes up our economy.
This shit was figured out 100 years ago when industrialists realized that you had to pay people enough to let them buy your shit. Today with globalization however this becomes less of an issue because the global merchants can simply peddle their product elsewhere.
No.342825
>>342816
Naw, bro, you don't get it.
it's not that people won't go to automated restaurants; I've been to several fairly popular ones.
It's that when people don't have jobs, they won't be able to buy food at restaurants, automated or not.
We're already beginning to see this, after decades of stagnant wages and rising cost of living. Productivity is way up. Supply is up, demand is in the shitter. There isn't much room for growth anymore because people can hardly afford any more crap, despite tons of debt.
taking away even the shitwork people do now in favor of robots that don't need pay will further reduce the potential customer base.
No.342826
>>342820
> people who are unemployable because they have no job experience
You shouldn't need any job experience at all to work minimum wage. People aren't retarded monkeys, although you might want to have those standards when hiring ghetto niggers.
No.342828
>>342826
That is what I am saying. When all of the minimum wage jobs are automated and the only jobs left are the ones that want you to have experience; guess where that leaves John Q. Public who just got done with high school and needs a job?
No.342829
>>342820
>More likely than not robots will be replacing the last remaining grunt work jobs that gave people just starting out a chance to build a job history.
>1.3 million people in America make minimum wage.
>You forget that minimum wage is reserved for things like waiters and bartenders. You know, people who make tip money on top of minimum wage.
>Realistically robots aren't going to be replacing waiters and bartenders because people like to be waited on by a human they can chat with and look down on.
Your proving his point. His point was that if all minimum wage workers were replaced it would put a dent in the economy. Your saying that not all minimum wage workers will be replaced.
>More likely than not robots will be replacing the last remaining grunt work jobs that gave people just starting out a chance to build a job history.
Quite vague there's plenty of minimum wage jobs and above minimum wage jobs that are entry level that robots currently can't preform and won't preform for a good while (ex: call centers).
>As a result you are going to soon find a vast underclass developing consisting of people who are unemployable because they have no job experience because all of the entry level stuff has been automated. Since lower class people and the disappearing middle class have traditionally been the backbone of the economy (because upperclassfags horde their money like greedy jews) the lack of short term spending from the impoverished lower classes brings the economy to a grinding halt as fewer and fewer people buy the overpriced disposable crap that makes up our economy.
you are assuming that once some become unemployed that they wont seek out another way to make money which simply is not the nature of man. no matter the circumstances humans will persevere you are heavily underestimating human beings in general and specifically poor human beings.
No.342831
>>342612
>400 burgers/hour
Bullshit! It's not that easy to automate the entire process. You have to think where the ingredients will be stored, and how the machine will be cleaned. Faster output means faster buildup of filth, too.
For all you kids who think automation is a walk in the park: IT'S NOT. If it were it would have been done already. I know that pic is supposed to be a joke but it's still shit. Respect the robot.
No.342832
>>342825
>It's that when people don't have jobs, they won't be able to buy food at restaurants, automated or not.
But the the total population of people who eat at fast food restaurants is not limited to the people who work at fast food restaurants. If every fast food chain in america fired all their workers so you exclude them from the population that eats at fast food. There would still be plenty of people eating at mcdonald's harvey's and so forth
No.342833
>>342828
If the job needs qualifications that is one thing, if it doesn't then ANYONE can do it. This meme that you need job experience for everything is retarded.
No.342834
>>342818
>Monthly inspections
All it takes is one fuck up, inspections or not.
Somehow I doubt they will seal the system.
No.342835
>>342828
>When all of the minimum wage jobs are automated and the only jobs left are the ones that want you to have experience
thats a sweeping assumption you've made all minimum wage jobs cannot be automated at this time. Even if they could that puts evolutionary pressure on john Q. public (just like food scarcity and lions did 10,000 years ago) to preform.
No.342837
>>342834
>All it takes is one
Wow so on the off chance that something bad might happen we shouldn't do it. Just ponder the ramifications for sticking to that.
>Somehow I doubt they will seal the system.
That is absolute speculation at this point. some places might other places might not ill only eat at the places that do seal.
No.342838
>>342834
All it takes is one fast food server with ebola to spit in your food and you might contract ebola.
No.342840
>>342831
>Somehow I doubt they will seal the system.
>Faster output means faster buildup of filth
>For all you kids who think automation is a walk in the park: IT'S NOT.
For all you complainers out their that keep complaining about not just this subject but EVERYTHING ELSE IN LIFE (from politics to pointless things that dont matter) and don't do a damn thing to fix it. Your no better than my ex who quit her job after moving in with me and complained about how my sister never did the dishes. Every day "NAG NAG YOUR SISTER NEVER DOES THE DISHES" not once did she do the dishes she sat on the sidelines an ran her suck while the world moved on by. the only reason she got away with it at the time was she was not supporting herself.
No.342843
>>342825
but if Bernie is president then all those unemployed people will have plenty of welfare and food stamps so it won't be a problem. :^)
>>342832
>wasting time arguing economics with a bernie sandberg supporter
in his mind, EVERYONE is a minimum wage worker, because all of his friends and family are minimum wage workers. except of course the evil 1% who swim in silos full of gold coins all day and refuse to share their enormous wealth with the poor underprivileged 99% because they're all meanie-pants who don't understand how great communism is.
No.342844
>>342829
I am disputing his 1.3 million number by implying that it would likely be higher considering that most min. wage jobs (waiter/bartender) aren't as likely to be automated as slightly better than min. wage jobs like factory worker and retail sales person.
I am not arguing against his point that it would put a dent in the economy. If anything I am saying that it would put a bigger dent in the economy than what he implies with his 1.3 mil figure.
>Quite vague there's plenty of minimum wage jobs and above minimum wage jobs that are entry level that robots currently can't preform and won't preform for a good while (ex: call centers).
There are not "plenty" of those jobs because often enough you have people working multiple min. wage jobs just to get by and a significant unemployment rate in the US that also indicates that there is a scarcity. Coupled with the fact that most min. wage jobs are part time and/or seasonal you end up with a situation in which the hours worked vs. wage isn't enough to live on. So taking that into consideration, even if there are jobs that can't be automated, the stingy fucks running things aren't going to give you enough hours to get by and you are likely going to have to take a second job which means one less job available for someone else.
>you are assuming that once some become unemployed that they wont seek out another way to make money which simply is not the nature of man. no matter the circumstances humans will persevere you are heavily underestimating human beings in general and specifically poor human beings.
There are only so many jobs to go around. If people are unemployed they will try their best to get by and that includes getting on welfare or turning to crime. Neither of which is desirable or sustainable.
And don't give me any lines about self employment because with all of the regulations and insurance laws acting as a barrier as well as competition from overseas and established industries; the chance for the everyday man to raise himself up is diminishing more and more each year.
No.342847
>>342843
>>wasting time arguing economics with a bernie sandberg supporter
Eh its not for him its for the lurkers. If someone who has never read up on the subject casually reads his points and his points aren't countered or debated we might loose another innocent mind to that garbage
No.342850
>>342844
Minimum wage isn't enough to live on, and for good reason. If you have to work minimum wage, live in a shelter or get a few roommates you fucking degenerate.Work your way up then get a real job.
No.342852
>>342844
>There are only so many jobs to go around.
jobs are not finite jobs are created by those with wealth. They are referred to as entrepreneurs. If a company doesn't have to pay it's workers then it can reinvest that money else where creating new jobs.
>If people are unemployed they will try their best to get by and that includes getting on welfare or turning to crime.
Man I know poor aren't the best people but they are still people and they are still resilient.
>And don't give me any lines about self employment because with all of the regulations and insurance laws acting as a barrier as well as competition from overseas and established industries; the chance for the everyday man to raise himself up is diminishing more and more each year.
Well damn why don't we finally start deregulation the economy (healthcare internet airlines postal service taxi cab service) so its easier for people to break into?
No.342853
>>342833
And yet employers are the ones who keep using it to deny people jobs.
>>342835
>at this time
Nice caveat you snuck in their. Automation isn't going away. We aren't going to hit a barrier where employers one day say "well we've reached the point where we are satisfied with the level of automation, time to stop and keep it at this level forever".
And no. John Q. Public doesn't have incentive to "perform" as long as things like welfare and crime are available alternatives. When you reach the point where the barriers to getting a job are more than you are capable of, people will turn to alternative methods.
Don't be a smart ass and give me a line about STEM degrees either. You know damn well that some people just aren't going to be capable of that and even professional level jobs like that have their own saturation point which couldn't handle a mass influx of people applying for them.
No.342856
>>342844
>I am not arguing against his point
>that it would put a dent in the economy
>if anything I am saying that it would put a bigger dent
look man I'm not trying to be rude but the way your writing is starting to get confusing. Could i get some clarification?
No.342857
>>342853
>Nice caveat you snuck in their.
tipsfedora.jpg
No.342860
>>342853
>You know damn well that some people just aren't going to be capable of that
That's why they're poor. If you can't, or won't put in the effort to education, whether it be in science or into the trades, you fucking deserve to be poor.
No.342862
>>342840
>all that projecting
Shut up, I never said it's impossible, just that it ain't easy.
Do you have a degree in any kind of engineering? There's a lot more to consider than where the pulleys and bearings go.
No.342863
>>342853
> Automation isn't going away.
and the way you keep saying automation will take away all jobs makes its sound like in a few years there will be no minimum jobs left. which is simply not true this automation will take a long time to do. even if you had all the technology to automate all minimum wage jobs you would still need a lot of time to build all those machined and install them and get them tuned to where they need to be. that alone would take years. This isnt going to be a fast change its will be a slow one.
No.342870
>>342853
>And no. John Q. Public doesn't have incentive to "perform" as long as things like welfare and crime are available alternatives
ok what is Johns "incentive" to turn to those things?its the same incentive that if those things weren't available (welfare, profitable crime) John would then have to resort to travel elsewhere to find opportunities.
No.342873
>>342853
>Don't be a smart ass and give me a line about STEM degrees either.
I wont touch that as I don't want to sit here all day and write about how people learn and specialization of people.
But you could definitely argue that schools need to be regulated so our education levels can rise and parents can take a more active role in their children's education.
No.342874
>>342865
Gee, thanks. Your insight is so valuable.
No.342875
>>342873
>so our education levels can rise
>flooding the work force with more degrees, whether they be worthwhile or not
no thank you
No.342879
>self-sustaining automation system
>elites now have all the world to themselves since other people are not needed
>overthrow elites
>live in marxist paradise
No.342883
>>342875
>>flooding the work force with more degrees,
If parents had to pay for K through 12 education i garuntee you there would be less useless degrees floating around (EX: art majors poetry majors gender studies) a good chunk of the useless stuff would be pushed out of the education system for things that were more in demand.
No.342887
>>342879
>elites are bad
>kill elites and just sit in the exact same spot they did
> =s paradise
No.342898
>>342887
Repeat ad infinitum. Eventually there wouldn't be any people left that want the golden suicide throne. Wealth will then spread from one singular point to all over the population.
No.342903
>>342898
>Repeat ad infinitum.
Eventually there wouldn't be any people left
No.342906
>>342876
That's rich coming from the guy that brought up his ex. In a discussion about automation.
kill yourself
No.342907
>>342903
They're not needed already, as defined by existence of self-sustaining automation. So that's hardly an issue.
No.342910
>>342754
How many people do you really think are in automateable jobs, dumbass?
I can assure you that it's far less than you think. This will be no different than the industrial revolution making clothes-makers a useless job. In today's terms, you used to have to pay $75ish for a shirt, whereas now the same shirt costs $10 because of factory mass production. Hell, we should go pre-industrial by your logic to save the middle class, and everyone should have to pay a clothier mass sums of money for one shirt!
Faggot.
No.342912
>>342906
im sorry the resemblance was just to similar to pass up
No.342914
>>342912
Poor you, can't stop thinking about her. LMAO
No.342915
>>342907
but if you repeated what you suggested infinitely then there eventually wouldn't be an people left.
No.342916
>>342795
I think he was saying that powerful union caused the issue in Detroit.
No.342918
>>342907
but if you repeated what you suggested infinitely then there eventually wouldn't be an people left.
>flood detection
come on hotwheels
No.342922
>>342914
>trying this hard
No.342924
>>342795
I think he was saying that powerful union caused the issue in Detroit.
>>342825
>people can't afford any more!
Tell that to the poor folks with 72 inch TV's, cars that are less than 10 years old, microwaves, iPhones, laundry machines, laptops, etc.
Windows 95 was a luxury item. Windows 10 is in virtually everyone's household.
Obviously the problem isn't a lack of money.
No.342925
>>342916
Unions are insanely powerful in most of northern/western europe and japan. They're economically sick countries we shouldn't try emulating.
No.342930
>>342472
If every menial job is gonna be focused around robots, obviously new jobs are going to be robot-based. Robot maintenance, robot assembly, robot part delivery.
Robot assembly will probably be done by robots, though, so don't look into that field.
Unless you're talking about hundreds of years down the line where there's Sci-fi AI robots being able to think and operate forklifts. Then we're fucked once one robot realizes that they do all the work for smelly meatbags and by extension they should be in charge. This uprising will be placated by the neo-liberals, who will probably say some spiel of how we've been oppressing our tin bretheren and what is human anyway, maaan. So they'll protest for robo-rule and once it finally happens and the human threshing machine plants open they'll go whoops sry as they're being tossed in. And then we'll all die. Of course this is like…250 years in to the future, so no need to worry, anon!
No.342952
>>342791
>If automation was a problem in itself, they would have gone in to decline like Detroit. Clearly there are other factors at play. Like powerful unions.
>Japan
>not in decline
Nigger Japan is the textbook example of decline. Their economy hasn't grown since the 80s, and they have one of the highest GDP compensated national debt in the world.
Like you said there are still other factors in play, such as for example the extreme amounts of governmental corruption in Japan, but there's no doubt that automation is part of it.
No.342973
The difference between robotics and the normal race to the bottom you see in emergent markets is that with robotics, the losing group in the competition (people) are also the customers. So, by employing more robots companies save money on labor, but they reduce the purchasing power of their customers and so they end up losing sales, which costs them money. Their customer's purposing power is, however, a collective pool, and that's what makes this a tragedy of the commons, which is a situation that does not have an equilibrium state.
So, no, in short, there is no bottom for this race to hit. Each company will choose to leverage their personal profit over maintaining the purchasing power of their customers, and as a result more and more robotics will be employed and more and more people will be unemployed. A couple new jobs will open up in the form of robot installers, technicians, etc, but these will be trade skills bordering on white collar work, and will probably still be taken by immigrant workers via the H1 visa program, like all other jobs in that category. So there's really no upside here.
It's a race to the bottom in an abyss with no brakes. Hold onto your butts.
No.342975
Just automate everything, give everyone a basic living wage, let those that want to excel and earn more money do so while the rest are sterilized through GMOs in fast food.
No.342976
>>342682
$15/hour untermensch detected.
No.342980
>>342930
Delivery services can be automated fairly early on.
No.342983
MACHINE SPIRIT CHURCH SOON
No.343089
Fucking boomers. Not even once.
No.343103
>>342454
>spics
Don't you mean wetbacks?
Spics is a racial slur usually targeted towards Puerto Ricans, rather than Hispanics/Latinos in general. It started way back, possibly around the fifties, if not even before the baby bommer generation. Puerto Ricans in New York City, for example, who worked hard and saved money sought to give their children a better future. So, they moved to the more safe and more prosperous areas of NYC, which was predominantly Irish, Italian, and German.
Back in those days, they didn't look kindly upon them, and since the second generation of Puerto Ricans were bilingual, the white denominations(hope I'm using the right term here) thought they couldn't speak English properly. So to insult them, they said, "What's the matter? Don't spica the English no more?" And, as far as I know, that's how the slur came to be. But I've been wrong before, so you glorious faggots are more than welcome to correct me if I am.
No.343107
>>342973
did you read nothing in the thread?
>>342975
> give everyone a basic living wage
no
No.343108
>>342448
>"Millennials like not seeing people,"
MUH PHONE GENERATION
No.343111
>>342477
>Make new jobs.
Not that simple. Baby boomer detected.
No.343112
>>342448
> which could further decimate jobs.
Reduce the number of jobs by 10%? That's not so bad.
No.343147
>>342769
Fuck off, commie. What's going on right now is NOT real Capitalism. It's CRONY-Capitalism, AKA Corporatism. Learn the fucking difference.
No.343153
>>343147
Is this the "communism has never been tried" of the capitalists?
No.343164
No one really likes those jobs and they pay badly
No.343171
>>342844
My point I was making in the original post was that even if you quintupled that number (so 6 million people instead of 1.3 million people), the effects of raising minimum wage to $15/hour would be just as if not more disastrous as replacing folks with robots, since that $15/hour figure wipes out everyone who's work isn't worth $15 anyways. Obviously stagnation is bad, so in a relative comparison, automation is better for the economy than raising wages would be.
No.343176
>>342818
Dude, are you kidding me? The big bosses will put on a facade of safety, but will stop, because it costs money to maintain, and because these corporate assholes are so greedy, they do things like gundecking/cooking the books. And because all these corporate assholes care about is money, they forget how to MAKE money; man makes the money, not the other way round.
They think that by saving money by being irresponsible and by committing fraud, when a huge problem explodes by ignoring safety, the corporations will get sued up the ass, and they wind up having to spend money in settlement payments. So much for saving money. What was the old saying? "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?" Fucking corporate parasites.
By the way, think that hasn't happened?
>What is the BP Gulf oil spill?
>What is Fukushima-Daiichi?
No.343179
>>343153
The fuck are you talking about?
No.343182
>>342826
It's usually the baby boomers who think people need job experience to work minimum wage jobs.
No.343184
>>343176
>government can't fix this problem and people are evil
>therefore we need more government
No.343189
>>343176
>Dude, are you kidding me? The big bosses will put on a facade of safety
just stop right there once again your making the same sweeping assumptions as earlier that hold no water.
>They think that by saving money by being irresponsible and by committing fraud, when a huge problem explodes by ignoring safety, the corporations will get sued up the ass, and they wind up having to spend money in settlement payments. So much for saving money. What was the old saying? "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?" Fucking corporate parasites.
This whole thing is fucked up just because a few companies make mistakes doesnt mean they are all "corporate parasites". it means they made the wrong call at the wrong time and miss invested their money and customers bring their dollar else where.
>By the way, think that hasn't happened?
no the worst of the world is always on the news well not all ways the ones the fit the narrative are but still a lot of bad stuff definitely is.
No.343200
>>342860
Are you suggesting they just die, then?
No.343203
>>343184
Did I say we need MORE government? Piss off if you think I prefer a hammer and sickle over a hamburger.
No.343207
>>343189
>This whole thing is fucked up just because a few companies make mistakes doesnt mean they are all "corporate parasites". it means they made the wrong call at the wrong time and miss invested their money and customers bring their dollar else where.
Point taken.
No.343213
>>342930
HK-47 FOR PRESIDENT! MAKE MEATBAGS DEAD AGAIN!
No.343591
>>343200
THEY WILL ADAPT FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME
What happens when you take something away from someone or an animal they seek to replace it! fuck you dense fucks think poor people are robots or something, like they'll starve to death if you dont put food in their mouth
No.343598
>>343591
This.
It's about as ignorant as the folks who look at Africa as a wealth deposit/place to send charity instead of as an investment/business partner.
The poor need markets and business, and they will adapt accordingly when given that opportunity. All of the alternatives to automation fail to solve this underlying problem, whereas automation creates jobs and cheaper products for the poor to have an easier time going about their daily lives.
No.343610
>>343189
but when the economic system incentivises making those sorts of mistakes…
hmm
No.343619
>>342448
>Carl’s Jr
Carl owns a junior?
No.343623
>>343103
"spic" is literally a conjugation of the word "hispanic" dumbass
No.343625
>>342448
does this mean the food will get cheaper?
i would love to see the day a double western bacon cheeseburger drops below $5
No.343632
>>343625
Heart attacks will skyrocket that day.
It'll be glorious.
No.343636
>>342495
Augment ourselves.
No.343667
>>342860
Don't think at some point all jobs available will be STEM and everybody will be employed there. Most engineers I know make large use of templates they themselves have built or have purchased somewhere else, meaning at some point even those people will be redundant. Your reasoning leads nowhere.
No.343675
>>343636
and if the aug tech is controlled?
>>342860
a. you need to pay for that education. poor people will not be able to afford it.
b. poverty is _totally_ the fault of a lack of education. modern economics and globalization have no part in it at all.
No.343678
>>342472
AI will rule the world and people will die out.
No.343690
>poor people will just get different jobs
Yeah, totally. It's not like we have double-digit unemployment or anything.
No.343694
>>343690
Hush. Let the suburbanites have their fun.
No.343839
>>343675
The poor can get a job and save up for education. Even if it means, god forbid, working a few years to save.
No.344123
>>343839
This. I went from upper middle class to well below the poverty line when I was 12, and I'm excited as all shit for automation.
People need to stop treating us poor folk as if we're unable to do anything.
No.344142
>>343591
>THEY WILL ADAPT
I don't think giving people a reason to turn to crime is an acceptable alternative to not replacing people with robots.
No.344144
>>343839
How can they work a few years to save if they can't get a job moron?
No.344189
>>344123
I've been above the poverty line for a total of 5 out of my 20 years of living. Honestly, the poor are needy, greedy assholes that are poor for a good reason.
No.344192
Daily reminder that a robot will never spit in your food or "forget" a part of your order.
No.344201
>>344189
>saying that subjective experiences are objective
yep, totes that.
>>344192
>never forget
unless it gets rootkit'd
No.344209
>>344192
No it will break and get oil and metal in your food.
No.344221
>>344201
>>344209
The chance of either of these happening are a fraction of the chance of your food being ruined by a human.
No.344237
>>344221
if the robot is made by Microshit (who knows)
I laugh in your face at the suggestion it couldn't be rootkitted.
No.344243
>>342816
Just stupid shits that don't understand that a majority of people that go to fast food chains aren't min wage niggers, hell I might be more apt to go to one more often knowing I dont have some spic spitting or rubbing their genitals on my patty.
No.344245
>>344243
that probably wouldn't happen though.
unless you said that kind of shit to their face
in which case it would.
No.344250
>>343103
I guess if you want to get technical to that level you don't live around a lot of them.
No.344251
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>>343834
No this is obligatory.
No.344255
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>>343103
this just reminds me of this vid so much
>>343147
lol so much bullshit.
capitalism is hierarchical and (therefore) oppressive in all forms.
No.344294
>>344237
Did I say that, nigger?
I said you're more likely to have a human fuck with your food than to get food from a fucked robot.
No.344299
>>344294
>I said you're more likely to have a human fuck with your food than to get food from a fucked robot.
How do you know that? If anything the food will be worse because these cheap fucks will never have the damn things cleaned.
No.344308
>>342488
What are they going to do, start killing us off?
No.344350
Carl's Jr food is terrible. Perhaps they should work on that first.
No.344355
What if robots became a social class?
The robots wouldn't get paid, instead their slave labor would be fed into taxes.
Taxes would start becoming benign for citizens, in fact may even reach a point of reversal. All funding and constructive infrastructure for a government would come out of the robots, not humans. Soon people would need to work less and less hours, or be paid much more for jobs that required a human element, such as IT or hospital care.
Everyone would be guaranteed basic human needs, or at least a small paycheck for free. Instead of humans focusing on survival, they can pursue education and innovative careers.
No.344382
>>344355
>utopian garbage
The people running things aren't that kind, anon. There would be purges, either due to a political agenda or to remove bad genes from the pool so we aren't wasting time trying to get 60 IQ subhumans into demanding careers.
No.344388
>>344382
Not sure if that's a bad thing. The global population is maxing out anyway, if it continues the planet will run out of fresh water and arable land faster than it's being replenished.
With no natural predators above humans, our worst enemies must be ourselves.
No.344411
>>344388
>Not sure if that's a bad thing.
I think purges due to political agendas would be a bad thing.
No.344413
>>344355
You assume that government will cut taxes.
If you look at the course of history, with the exception of mild hurdles here and there because the government couldn't afford to tax people any more, government will continuously raise taxes and grow larger until it collapses in on itself (whether via depression or revolution doesn't matter- the pattern is always the same).
For some countries that's measured in years and for others in decades, but it's always the case.
No.344414
>>344382
Purges are 100% constitutional and in-line with Libertarianism so long as you do them voluntarily.
E.G. offer all males and females in the bottom two quintiles of society $5,000 if they permanently sterilize themselves.
No.344417
>>344388
>The global population is maxing out anyway,
If you mean it's going to start decreasing soon, then I agree.
If you mean it's going to hit a limit, then I disagree heavily. If there's one thing humans have done, it's disprove this shitty theory of a "maximum earth load" again and again.
No.344428
>>344355
>digits checkd
Then the "2nd Renaissance" would occur ofc anon.
#RespectTheRobot
No.344429
>>344355
>open a designer store for robots to get custom paintjobs
>robot across the road runs a pizzeria
>fucking italians
No.344560
>>342930
Silly anon there will always be a need for custom robo wafius
No.344571
>>344414
Why the fuck dont we do this?
No.344575
>>344350
But that's wrong, you fucking retard. McDonald's food is terrible, if anything.
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No.344591
>>344571
Because that's called eugenics, and is heavily frowned upon by society nevermind the fact that women and liberals literally use fucking eugenics as the base argument in favor of abortion in the first place.
No.344593
>>344591
>>344571
Also because in the short term, abortions are cheap (~$500) whereas you'd be paying people $5,000 to get sterilized (plus we can assume the cost of sterilization would be subsidized which is additional funds).
If we use the two lowest quintiles as the basis for this, you're talking ~120 million Americans who make ~$60k or less per year at the maximum. Assuming you still have to pay for abortions from dumb fucks who "want dem kids but not now, nigga" you're talking about millions of dollars in the short term.
In the long term though over the course of 20-30 years, after you consider health costs, the taxes that these people bring in, etc. we're talking a net positive whether you're a Libertarian or a statist, but short term (say ten years) we're talking a very piss-poor cost-benefit analysis.
No.344776
>humans are making even more progress and are making stupid repetitive shitty tasks automated
>now we have more time to have creative jobs or anything that requires human thinking
>people get mad and want to flip burgers instead
kill yourselves
No.344813
>>344593
>Libertarian
right-Libertarian you mean.
No.344834
No.344843
>>344834
it's still the CEO's fault:
he can't exploit as many
workers as he wants to
exploit because reasons,
so he decides to use
robots instead.
No.344851
>>344843
Sound business. I like that.
I'll support the new Carls Jr. restaurants when they appear in my area, not because I want to support a smart company, but because I'm much less likely to get food poisoning again from eating food prepared by disgruntled gibsmedats.
No.344871
Whenever this comes up, I always say the same thing: look at Rome.
The Republic: There were citizens and patricians. The patricians owned land and buildings, the citizens worked for the patricians on their land or in their businesses (brothels, barbershops, taverns and so on).
The Empire: patricians realised that citizens were expensive, they cost a lot to employ compared to slaves. So thanks the the Empires constant warring and the steady flow of slaves that resulted everywhere in Rome citizens were replaced with slaves. The only upkeep slaves required was food, some clothes, and a small group of burly men to keep them in line with fear and intimidation. They were easy to replace and couldn't call in sick.
But there was one problem, the citizens in Rome couldn't find jobs, so they started to starve. Starving Romans riot, so the senate, the body of the patricians, decided that they would bribe the people with daily rations of wheat and wine. The citizens, no longer needing to work as they could just leech off the patricians, took to spending their days consuming entertainment (baths, games, plays) or spending their small welfare on goods and services, all of which were produced or provided by slaves. The money the citizens spent on this always went straight back to the patricians, who then gave it back to the citizens in a never ending cycle.
Well, it ended with the fall of Rome.
No.344880
>>344871
just goes to show: even societally, a perpetual motion machine can't work (at least if you're using cash).
No.344935
>>344871
If that analogy were strictly accurate anon, then Bugerland and Yurop would have collapsed decades ago. Certainly Burgerland would have anyway.
The many, many evils that came from FDRs Presidency–the one or two good things notwithstanding–would have driven this nation into the hole long ago.
Most notably, the GibsMeDat! mentality that's now blossoming anew completely outside it's normal blacks-only domain; SJWtard-ism is rampant now and only becoming moreso across all races in America.
No doubt, if it doesn't get turned around, and quickly, we are on an unswervable collision course with history. The kind that repeats itself.
I only hope Trump can manage a different outcome, but I fear even if he does make it to the Oval Office, that somehow Mr. Bone's Wild Ride™ has been rolling too long and too fast for us to get off now.
No.344953
>>343107
Why not just let the NEETs die out without producing any offspring? It's not like American money has any value whatsoever.
No.344954
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>>342973
Nash Equilibrium?
No.344998
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No.345002
>>343625
My dick would be as hard as diamonds
No.345014
>>343625
Yes, please. I have no desire to support a pack of wild hyenas with my dollars, but I support this.
>tfw I don't even like hyena burgers
No.345017
>>342448
No way they can fire ALL workers. I could see each chain being reduced significantly though. Jack in the Box already has a decent amount of automated cashiers, so that is done. All you need is someone on staff that has other responsibilities but can fix basic glitches. Behind the counter you would need more labor, but things are already getting more automated. Carl's uses a conveyor belt to cook their outstanding burgers, no human error fucking up cook time.
SO, what this means is that you people need to get the skills necessary to keep these things running well. Capitalism corrects it self every time, but sometimes that includes death. Make sure you spend money on owning the means of production so you can stay alive.
No.345019
>>345017
It will simply come down to middle-managers roving a circuit within a region to check on status, and corps of service techs and maybe one on-site supply tech/security guard to keep the machines going.
No.345034
>>344935
>GibsMeDat! mentality
>No doubt, if it doesn't get turned around, and quickly, we are on an unswervable collision course with history. The kind that repeats itself.
lmao bullshit. while there is a lesson to be learned from that, the lesson is: becoming the societal equivalent of Enron is a bad idea, and therefore welfare cash should be taken in account when it comes to taxes. (if you're a statist)
No.345038
>>345034
So… you think things are all just going to work out then friendo?
No.345172
>>344935
For me, the analogy only relates to people being replaced by cheaper forms of labour.
Most people, for something like this, would harken back to the industrial revolution: artisans who made things by hand went out of business, people moved to the cities to work in factories, ect. ect.
For me though, this is a culture shift. The difference between autonomisation and industrialisation is that under one, people still get paid, under the other, they don't.
Believe me, we are only seeing the start of GibsMeDat anon. Wait until everyone from the middle class down is taking a wage hit.
Add to that the fact that even high grade jobs like stockbroking are being replaced by algorithms that cost banks less to run whilst still making investors money.
Every strata of society will be squeezed by autonomisation, except the capitalists (and a handful of professions are safe for the foreseeable future).
>>344880
I don't know, money doesn't obey the laws of thermodynamics as far as I'm concerned. The currency we used today isn't backed up by gold, or the metal our coins are made of, a $20 bill is worth $20 because it's a $20 bill.
Rome did end up suffering massive inflation towards the end of the empire, mostly due to huge devaluations of the denar because successive emperors removed more and more silver from it.
No.345262
Obligatory reading:
http://www.marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
Automation is going to continue taking jobs away, faster than you think. Middle class wages have been stagnant since 1970. Not sure which future we'll wind up with, but something's got to give.
No.345305
>>344299
They will be self-cleaning. A built-in nozzle will spray them off after every order.
No.345327
>>342922
You realize you're being as much of a faggot as he is, right?
No.345351
>>343176
>And because all these corporate assholes care about is money
Right, and they care about not getting sued, which means they care about inspecting the equipment and making sure it's clean.
No.345356
>>342930
As well, there are plenty of jobs that would be related to stocking all the areas where food needs to be inserted, since machines would be too simple to be able to put together something like a burger unless you spent a fortune on it, and we're not near a point where that makes sense.
No.345360
>>345356
How hard could it be to make a burger? It's so simple.
No.345367
>>345360
You have to set the grill, cook the meat, apply the sauces, toppings, and the patty on a bun. That's enough steps involving food items of different shapes, that are also quite soft, that it's difficult to imagine how you could arrange a machine to do it.
What can be automated easily is the cashier, since even at the moment they use pictures on the cash registers to make it easier to just click on what is being paid for. You can just setup a dozen kiosks to order from and let people pay there, then have a human send out the food.
You also have to consider what happens with all the machinery getting grease on it. Do you have every part of every machine be completely sealed off? And what does that entail?
You also have the matter of cleanups. Because someone would still have to clean the dining area, and the food preparation area. I don't even think food safety laws would allow the kitchen to be completely devoid of humans as someone has to oversee things to ensure everything is up to code.
And most importantly, there's the matter of when there is a mistake, even if it's on the customers side, there still has to be someone to help remedy the situation. Rightfully so since it isn't reasonable for the state to be imposing on businesses like that, but it still would be possible to make a profit in such an environment where someone is being paid $13 an hour to flip burgers. The main problem that occurs when you do pay that much, is that you get better workers coming in that perform the tasks more efficiently so you need fewer of them.
What places like McDonald's does, and imagine most fast food places like Carl's Jr even, is they try to simplify all tasks for all people working there and just flood the place with low wage employees. So you can understand the logic behind the opinions that they don't deserve to be paid more, because they don't at the moment. In an environment where they do have to pay more, they'd have to be more scrutinizing when choosing employees, which they don't currently do, and that would mean everything needing to know more about what they're doing and be more competent. This would mean changing their entire business model, so the CEO is just going with the mindset of why bother changing what works at the moment and thinking it'd be possible to change out wage slaves for robots.
The CEO seems to just be engaging in a bit of scaremongering because he dislikes the minimum wage hike
No.345375
>>345367
I just really want to slap you.
White Castle pumps out 65 million frozen burgers per year in one single plant. Accomodating smaller scale machinery at a local burger joint would not even be very difficult.
What is difficult is getting people to pay regular price for what is essentially a mass produced off the shelf "every unit exactly the same" product.
The barrier to automation in fast food is not the technology, nor the health and safety regulations needed to keep the plant clean - its a price point that doesn't justify every small town having it's own mini-factory with little to no human intervention per unit sold.
http://www.qualityassurancemag.com/article/qa1015-white-castle-burger-profile
No.345381
>>345375
And in case I wasn't clear, that price point no longer exists if every employee is guaranteed $15 an hour.
No.345404
seriously you dopes , all this for what , 1984 already happened , . I took the time to read the whole thread and 1 person mentioned an automated restaurant. They have been running for some time already , ship-Dits
New McDonald’s In Phoenix Run Entirely By Robots
There is a video in article also this
If you have any further questions about the robot-run establishment, McDonanld’s has setup a 24-hour robot hotline at (785) 273-0325.
http://newsexaminer.net/food/mcdonalds-to-open-restaurant-run-by-robots/
McDonald's To Open 25000 Robot-Run Restaurants By 2016
google
automated restaurant san francisco
Fast food reinvented? Eatsa, a fully automated restauran
September 1, 2015
http://kron4.com/2015/09/01/video-fully-automated-fast-food-restaurant-opens-in-san-francisco/
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No.345413
Stopped into this McDonald’s yesterday so I could see how it worked. All robots! So amazing! One of them was kind of hot too
Humans Need Not Apply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
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No.345441
>>345375
Where is the machine here that is cooking the burgers? Because I'm not seeing it.
If I go into some Whitecastle I imagine I'll see someone putting these sliders on a grill. Cooking them. Packaging them. Then sending them out.
>>345381
>And in case I wasn't clear, that price point no longer exists if every employee is guaranteed $15 an hour.
And I disagree. There will always be some potential price point where it becomes cheaper to invest in machinery to do the job, but given the complexity of the cooking process (for machines), it seems unlikely to occur.
What is more likely to occur is that this will price out hiring in hordes of inept employees that have little required of them. Because, again, it still would be possible to make a profit in such an environment where someone is being paid $13 an hour to flip burgers, they would just have to be more competent. It's part of why many restaurants already pay their people more than minimum wage to cook.
No.345447
>>345441
Where is the machine here that is cooking the burgers?
That's a picture of a grill, stupid - in a restaurant, with human employees doing the cooking, not in the factory where they make the frozen 2 packs you buy at the grocery store… have you never seen a single fucking episode of "How It's Made"?
Your posts are just incredibly wrong in so many ways, not least of which is your instistence that somehow putting a burger on a bun with a fucking pickle and keptchup is WAY TOO ADVANCED a task for that thar fancy machinery
No.345460
>>345441
explain to me how a machine cant fucking already make hamburgers quite handily, especially in the age of digital optical tracking and shit
there is simply no such thing a "complexity" of machine cooking, ESPECIALLY not in the fast food industry
No.345478
>>345367
I will say, the one nice thing if they raised the minimum wage that much is that most of these fast food companies wouldn't be able to stay open past regular business hours.
My least favorite part of my old min wage job was that we stayed open/had a dozen employees well past the point where customers could pay our wates in sales for the sole sake of "convenience."
Oh, and keep in mind that companies could go the Goodwill Industries model. Goodwill Industries hires medically diagnosed autists and mentally retarded people to do most menial labor because they have a special grant from the government to pay them $2.75/hour, and pay the rest in "benefits" (never mind the fact that all other employees recieve that same amount in benefits).
No.345494
>>344308
Pretty much. NWO plan is for a cap of 500 million humans alive, tops.
No.345495
>>345327
Far moreso, actually. At least aniGIFs of machinery are interesting.
No.345510
>>345495
Should we make this a manufacturing gif thread?
I think we should.
No.345513
>>345510
i was just trying to prove the point that machines have been making food for a century in factories, and miniaturization is not nearly as expensive as people would have you think - but sure
No.345603
Tempest in a teapot. Food has been mass-produced by machines for centuries.
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No.345721
>>344411
Stupid people deserve to die. They are nothing but a drain on resources and a danger to the lives of intelligent people. They at least could be used as basic manual labor, but now that is being phased out and thus they have no use at all and are nothing but a burden to the rest of us. Nature used to take care of this problem by killing them off, but advances in technology have dulled this solution to the point where intelligent humans have to pick up the slack and wipe out the idiots.
It doesn't have to be violent, just give them comfortable living with no work for the rest of their lives as long as they agree to have any possible way they could reproduce removed completely.
No.345735
>>345721
Stupid people do not deserve to die, fucking autist.
Stupid lazy people do.
You can either be stupid and hard working, smart and lazy, or smart and hard working because in any of those three scenarios, you can make a life for yourself.
If you're stupid and lazy though (like about a third of the American populace and about half of Europe), THEN you deserve to die with the coming automation because you'll have no redeemable qualities.
That is the cold hard fact that Conservatives and Libertarians (and even some Socialists) have come to accept, but the upper middle class lefties ("SJWs") who make up that demography refuse to accept.
No.345738
>>345721
>>345735
Tacking on to this, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, we should offer to give $5,000-$10,000 to anyone in the bottom two wealth quintiles who sterilizes themselves (minimum vasectomy so they "think" they can have it reversed- put a five year timer on it so that they have to pay back the money if they reverse it before then… After five years, vasectomies virtually destroy your ability to father offspring.)
No.345759
I just want a good, safe, burger inexpensively. Why is this being treated any differently than say, Doritos being spat out and cooked and packaged by an automated assembly.
Removing humans from contact with the food products will definitely be a good thing.
No.345798
>>345738
>>345738
Scary ideas tbqh lads. I guess ppl would go for it though.
No.346021
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>>344243
>hell I might be more apt to go to one more often knowing I dont have some spic spitting or rubbing their genitals on my patty.
Umm, anon…
No.346068
>>345735
well at leas you realise you're fucking dumb and come up with a way of dodging that anon's eugenics bullet.
…what you've failed to realise is that you're part of your 33.33%
No.346099
I hate SJW as much as anyone, but, not everyone is amathematician genious with a nice fat wage.
Who are they going to sell stuff to when people in low, and middle low classes have to settle with rags and a dirt bed?
No.346100
>>345738
As a manlet, I would love for all manlets like me to get sterilized, is not the nrom but sometimes one each 10 manlets get's to reproduce with a big fat fuggly bitch.
The problem would be short women, but I guess you can force them to abort their male children.
No.346108
>>342448
>Puzder says the coveted millennial market actually prefers as little social interaction as possible when it comes to ordering food.
This is true. If I could remove human interaction entirely from my daily life then it would be heaven on earth to me. I'm really looking forward to those jobs being replaced by robots.
No.346135
>>345721
>implying people would be culled based on merit rather than political connections